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Blu-ray And HD-DVD Copy Protection Fails

Posted Jul 7, 2006 at 8:58AM EST by QJ Staff

Listed in: PS3, Xbox 360 Tags: Blu-ray, CT Magazine, Exploit, gaming accessories, Microsoft, Sony, Toshiba
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German magazine CT have found a pretty simple, yet effective way to copy both HD-DVD and Blu-ray disc media. Although Blu-ray and HD DVD are supposed to be highly secure, using both AACS and HDCP copy protection in order to ensure that you cannot simply copy media from a disc, the German computer magazine CT found a much easier, crude way to get around the copyright protection. It was so simple it must have been overlooked by Sony, Microsoft and other next-generation DVD manufacturers.

The exploit in the copy protection meant that you could copy media using the print screen function on a computer, copying each frame individually. This may seem too crude to actually work but of course you wouldn't sit there pressing print screen manually, it wouldn't take a genius to create a program that would capture each frame using print screen. However, this flaw in the system will be fixed. CT magazine contacted Toshiba in order to notify them of the problem, and later versions of Toshiba's HD-DCD players will protect against this flaw. And Sony - I guess they'll take the hint!

Via I4U



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# Why?marv101 2006-07-07 10:09
Why'd they have to go tell them that for?! Could save people a bit of money :P

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# ...Guest 2006-07-07 10:21
LMAO who would think of trying that anyway



I'd say to copy Just use VCR less quality but easy



then upload the recorded film to the web

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# asdGuest 2006-07-07 11:06
jaja, wir Deutschen wieder :)

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# Doesn't matter what they do ...Guest 2006-07-07 11:12
It's just a matter of time. What they don't understand is that they have a highly paid group of idiots sitting around trying to stop the movie pirates, whereas the movie pirates have a seemingly unlimited amount of idiots with absolutely far too much free time on their hands.



I mean, just look at the average comments section on this site. For every 1 intelligent comment, there are 45 dumbasses who are wasting the rest of the world's oxygen. That said, tapping into the power of these idiots would prove quite fruitful.

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# ^Guest 2006-07-07 11:18
well said, careless boy

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# why bother...Hawk 2006-07-07 11:20
How many times do we have to say this.... If you build it, they will tear it down.



meaning, you build a security wall, someone will find away to get past it. Regardless of what you do. There will always be kids out there seeing it as a challenge to break the coding or break the security of things. See all those Game Copy Protection's out there. Tell me that someone will not break your "fool Proof" copy protection. It may slow them down a bit, but they will break it.



So, who cares, put on the best you got, and hope they don't break it in a matter of minutes.

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# so whatsenjutsu 2006-07-07 11:32
what after the bulletproof vest? bullet that pass through bullet-proog vest... and head-shots.



hackers will always have the last word, and anyway you surely noticed sony said the psp was supposed to be impossible to hack, well devhook and firmware 1.5 users think different lol. Nothing can totally block hacking BUT a completly closed environment, but we are always evolving to free environments, so hackers will always win, this is normal.



So just stop this kind of post.

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# hhmmmGuest 2006-07-07 12:31
a Printscreen Program to copy Next Generation HD Movies would be to complicated cause you would still need a DVD or something to use as the sound source to get the best possible quality so you wouldnt have to record that yourself as well...

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# How DumbGuest 2006-07-07 13:07
I keep telling u guys, no matter how much protection they put into this 2 technologies, theres always gonna be a way to copy them, its just a matter of time like #4 said.

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# umGuest 2006-07-07 13:31
Whenever I printscreen a DVD, I get nothing when I paste it. Why would it work for HD DVD and Blu-Ray?

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# because ...Guest 2006-07-07 13:37
Windows media player and most DVD playback software suites use a DirectX overlay to display the video -- not rendered on a software level, not visible to a print screen.

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# :| needs more knowledge...KnowLedge 2006-07-07 14:09
"both AACS and HDCP"



Wrong.



AACS won't be used untill 2011, it requires HDMI 1.3 to work.



And games will use different data protection than movies, which for now, are pretty much betas.

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# yea umm this isnt that coolGuest 2006-07-07 15:48
A movie is 24 frames a second, times that by the movie length and thats how many frames you have. This "exploit" is quite useless.

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# wait....Vecha 2006-07-07 15:59
I haven't been following...can someone please tell me...





can we not make back up copies of HD-DVD and Blu-ray?....

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# piratybiranGuest 2006-07-07 16:19
If you can pipe it through a cable, it can be copied, no matter how many protections you have on the disk or programs, you can always rip the video and audio coming out of the screen unless they control the entire media system inside out.

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# to vechaGuest 2006-07-07 16:42
They are deathly afraid of movie piraters pirating 50 gigs over bittorent.. cuase we all know how manay people are going to download a 50 gig movie at 20kbps but to answer your question, no you cant.

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# wow....Vecha 2006-07-07 16:47
I can't believe that....

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# -=-Guest 2006-07-07 17:33
AACS will be enabled from day one on HD-DVD and Blu-Ray. It's just the ICT flag that has been postponed for an indefinate (or just unknown?) time.



Vecha, Microsoft intend to let you copy HD-DVD to your hard drive on Vista, for viewing with MS Media PCs. Although, I would not call this backing up due to the amount of security protection on the copied version. But it will allow you to stick your HD-DVD in the shelf so it wont get scratched everytime you use it. Sony are dead against this practice coming to Blu-Ray.

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# man...Vecha 2006-07-07 18:57
i kinda like that idea...microsoft has...at least better then blu-ray.....i'm sure someone can crack it...I need my back ups....

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# !Oblivix 2006-07-07 19:40
AGH! My secret technique has been revealed! I was almost done backing up my copy of The Matrix too!



CURSE YOU GERMANY!

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# Cracking HDMI was inevitable, but the crackers did 'what'???Annony 2006-07-07 22:05
Maybe, in the distant future, the actions of these hackers, programmers, and pirates will make the entertainment industry realize that the more they try to screw the law-biding public over (HDMI-MPAA fiasco), the more foolish they look in retrospect when something like this happens.



But for now, we got these jerks turning around and saying to the manufacturers, "Hey, we found away around the encryption you're using to render nearly 3-million HDTVs useless with. Wanna know how?"



ARGH!

Oh well, in another couple of years, someone else will find a way to make 1:1 copies of HD content. I'm not too worried, just pissed.

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# Freakin CT magazine contacting Sony on this....CHUCKINGROCKSATSPACESHIPS 2006-07-07 23:11
GRRRRRRRRRRRRRR RRRRR!!!!!!!!!

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# Fundamental SecurityBlueDude6 2006-07-08 01:37
It's the paradox of the security of safes. Someone will always figure out how to override whatever copy protection they put into these things, simply because the data has to be accessible in a given situation (ie. movie viewing).



For every piece of copy-protected material that comes out, why not just program a "viewer" that poses as a dvd-player or other related software but really just dumps the material to your hard-drive.



The exploit is fundamentally built into the thing's purpose.

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# What would be the point of this #2?Guest 2006-07-08 02:13
2. » ...



LMAO who would think of trying that anyway



I'd say to copy Just use VCR less quality but easy



then upload the recorded film to the web





This can be done but the whole idea of Blu-ray and HD DVD is to be in HD. DVDs are still going to be around for the next few years so you can keep copying them.



I would say that I will be purchasing more films since you can hardly download a HD film

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