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PS3 Differences Between The Two Versions

Posted May 8, 2006 at 5:04PM EST by QJ Staff

Listed in: PS3 Tags: e3, industry news
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According to the official press release, the difference between the 20G version and the 60G version of the PS3 is not only limited on the hard drive capacity, but also some peripheral functions. Here is a detailed list of the two versions (click to enlarge):



OK, you can see that the 20G version is $100 USD cheaper, because of the lack of the Memory Stick/SD/CompactFlash card reader, Wireless Lan (802.11b/g) support and the HDMI output interface, as well as 40G less hard drive space. Which one will you get then? Hint: it seems the PSP will only be able to communicate with the 60G version in this way.





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# hmmGuest 2006-05-08 18:14
60 it is!

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# yeah..Guest 2006-05-08 18:20
nocomment

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# Im screwedX omega v5 2006-05-08 18:21
Time for a job



Ugh.....

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# note somethingThorlord 2006-05-08 18:44
BD2 read speed will be at x2, this means it will be half as fast a read speed as the 360 with its 12x DvD.



sure that means that if the PS3 makes noise its probably not the Disc drive (like it is on the 360) but this also means that it will take twice as long for data to load on the PS3 than it is on the 360.



it may have a massive storage medium, but it has a small bottleneck, looks like next gen will still be plagued with loading screens.

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# You dont know till its out.Vietone 2006-05-08 18:50
you cant say that it will have long load times. The fact that the hard drive is included in either package makes the hard drive usuable in all games.



They can reserve a certain amount of space on the hard drive and consistantly load from the blu-ray to the hard drive and only read from the hard drive for games.



This makes sense if they have dynamic content loading meaning there wont ever be a long load screen like in Halo and Halo 2 except maybe the beginning.

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# PSPGuest 2006-05-08 19:16
I think you can still use PSP with PS3... just connect PSP with the USB port...

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# Why there wont be plaguing load screensGuest 2006-05-08 20:16
Funny thing, 1yr ago XBOX fans hailed the 360 for their standard HDD for the cache that can be created and the lack of load times therein. The tables have turned however, and 360 doesnt have and standard HDD and PS3 does. What does this mean? Developers are now MUCH more likely to write caches for the PS3 games due to its HDD because everyone will have one, however such a cache will not be as much of a necessity on the 360 for the lack of people that can support it. The bottom line? Not sure if you have ever played a game with a sweet HDD cache but the load times almost seem non existent. Thus you will have (on many games) a long load time the first time you play the game then the cache assisted couple second load times. As mentioned in a previous post here on PS3updates. Also you are only counting DVD 12Xs maximum read speeds when you say its twice as fast. DVDs are based on variable read speeds and at certain angles will actually read SLOWER than 2X bluray. Bluray reads at constant speeds no matter where the data on the disc resides. This is important because the DVDs 360 uses are more than likely mostly full, and 2 layers at that. Meaning that doubles the amount of data that is in that "slow" region of the DVD. So depending on what is where and when, its not that much faster. Only in the BEST of situations is it twice as fast. And when accounting for HDD cache, the 360 does not stand a chance.

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# ps3...bigdaddytim 2006-05-08 20:34
even though the system will be, 499 and 599... it will still sell, in japan, and in the usa... regardless... me im getting the 599...

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# ????Guest 2006-05-08 20:38
So can it still be a DVR w/o av inputs?

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# no wayGuest 2006-05-08 21:03
There is no need to buy the 20gig PS3. It doesnt make any sence. Your buying a console to last you the next few years. If it doesnt have certain features the 60gig does your not gunna be very happy.



I will be waiting till the Price Drops. What if Blu-ray fails? that means that the drives will never be mass produced and does that mean they will still be expensive?



Alot of Money to play games/things I can do on my Computer

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# Two models for two marketsGuest 2006-05-09 01:51
The way I see this is Sony is targetting two different markets. Gamers will get the 60G version, and people looking for an inexpensive BD player will get the 20G version (especially for playing on legacy sterio and TV setups where HDMI is non-existant (like my setup)).



Me, I'm a gamer, so I'm going to save up for the 60G version, but might wait until the second round of consoles to avoid first-run bugs. (Plus, I'll probably be at the South Pole for work on launch day, and will miss the buying opprotunities as the first run gets sold out in 30-minutes-flat.) ;-)

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# no one's startled by the lack of wireless?comedy 2006-05-09 02:16
i think that's a major problem, right now that means i CAN'T get the 20 gig version. i have to get the 60 gig, who honestly will have a wired lan in a few years time? this is stupid, i think they've really done themselves damage here.



what it should have been is 500 dollar for one system, 60 gig, with wireless. goddamit, and those trailers were so damn enticing too.

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# AttachmentGuest 2006-05-09 02:21
There will obviously be an expansion slot on the 20Gb one for the extra adaptors

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# rehashGuest 2006-05-09 02:37
14. yes there will mostly like be add ons

2. look at the transfer rats of bd and dvd at 1x the compare the 2x bd to the 12x dvd, also like 8 stated dvd drives are variable and bd is constant

13. the 60gig version will have wireless, like 12 said its slated for 2 markets, the casual(hey look a cheap bd player that plays games) and the hardcore(wifi extra umph lets frag some mofo's) im going for the 60 gig

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# Uh...minusX 2006-05-09 02:37
Hint: it seems the PSP will only be able to communicate with the 60G version in this way.



..Wrong? They said you could do it via USB.

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# hmmhush404 2006-05-09 02:40
I dont have a PSP... so I dont consider the wifi or memstick/compact flash really important, nor do I have a HDTV... so hdmi, at the moment, isn't important but! what if i wanted got one in the furture? Oh and where's teh 2nd HDMI???? .... hmm im confuesd lol I was like "$499 is the one I'll get cuz of it's only disadvantage is the 40gb less on its hd..." but now i'm rethinking it...

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# uhhGuest 2006-05-09 03:23
didnt sony's umd format die? what if blu-ray goes that way too...

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# CorrectionsGuest 2006-05-09 03:57
Jeff C. you seem a bit biased please keep your negative opinions to yourself. It was clearly mentioned in the conference that you had many ways to interchange information from the PSP and the PS3. WiFi, Mem Cards, USB.



Now for the things they took out of the 20GB. If you just want the next gen system then you wont need a mem card reader or wireless. All wireless routers have wired connections for that dumba$$ who was worried about it. Also add-ons will had wireless capability. No HDMI means you wont get the best output (1080P) the PS3 has to offer but it stills delivers 360 HD performance. If your hardcore and make decent money than 599 is an amazing price to pay for what this machine is offering. If you just want a next gen system then there is nothing that really limits the 499 one. It has all the essentials for the next Generation. Plus you can just get add ons when the need to have those extras (they truly are just extras, more space + wireless + HDMI and they don't take away from the functionality or capacity) arises.



Prof

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# UMD dead WTF are you talking aboutGuest 2006-05-09 04:01
Is the PSP dead you moron? Why would the UMD be dead then? Companies are releasing less movies in UMD format because people with PSPs are just downloading movies to their memory sticks.



Also please no more dumb a$$ comparisons between Blu-Ray and UMD. Blu-Ray = Next DVD, UMD = psp format. Is completely different. There will be tons of blu-ray movie players everywhere come this summer as suppose to no UMD movie players.

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# not goodGuest 2006-05-09 07:05
you all have a point here, but its still bad news. I will wait till the price comes downl, since ps2 will supported to more years to come.

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# whoaGuest 2006-05-09 09:25
there is 100% no way im gettin the 599 ps3. come on no wireless? what about location free? sony is so g@y im goin to wii.

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# ...Shatterdome 2006-05-09 09:32
hehe, this is funny sh*t, they are doing the same thing as M$ when KK himself said it was the stupid mistake M$ made and they will definately not be doing that.....man, does he ever keep his word or even remotely come close to his promises ?



Any it's also bigger and heavier then the original xbox and $600 american ? haha fawk that, it's going to be like $700-750 cad.....I don't see ps3's saturating the market for a very LONG time...I plan on getting one, but i guess not for 3 years, because i'm not paying over $300 for it...

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# Blue rayGuest 2006-05-09 12:40
Since xbox 360 games are 70 bucks cnd for a new relese game br is probably 90 bucks cnd

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# Hmm.Guest 2006-05-09 12:43
The Price for both seem reasonable considering the equipment inside and out. and its various option and applications. It funny how Sony deicded to follow Xbox 360's way of selling. The 2 Versions. Oh well i'll do what i do everytime. Wat 5 years then get it. By then the price will be low all the kinks will be worked out (hopefully) more and better games, and i'll have a job.

T think the most anybody should be concerned about is how Sony plans to run its online gaming with it's new HUB. I don't think there was any inforamtion realesed about it recently (I think). And frankly about the whole PSP not being able to "communicate" with the ps3 isn't such a big deal, really. It's not like a lot of you guys willl actually try all that stuff unless your hardcore fanboys, besides i doubt a lot people who have posted here even have a PSP. I know i don't.

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# Sony Corp. LimitedGuest 2006-05-09 14:09
Hello to all those in the Qj.net blogs. I have been told to post this here in case of fraud or misjudgement. Ok first of all, nobody worry about the differences, the 20 gig still has Bluetooth which in Sony we use all the time to get online, and the 60 gig has flashcard support. To me, flashcard support is no good all you can do is *lapy emgas and se pictures.



Leon Machanon

Sony Vice. Rep.

PS3

Division 2A

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# Interesting...Guest 2006-05-09 14:49
23, Ken actually never said they were not going to release two versions.



And, if you think about it, if you don't have the kind of money to buy a $599 one, don't even drem about having a 1080p HDTV



You don't really need wireless if you don't have a wireless router, you can still hook up a PSP via USB and another PS3 via LAN



No Sticks? it has USB ports, just connect the suckers to them!

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# Gigabit ethernet?Vipre77 2006-05-09 15:20
I don't remember hearing anything about that one before. Bonus!

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# lets do mathGuest 2006-05-09 17:49
if ur an online gamer that u save alot of money,



it costs 60$ a year for xbox live

so in two years it will cost more than to 20 gig



and in 4 years it'll cost more the the 60gig



p.s. this is after factoring in the xbox 360 price

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# umThorlord 2006-05-09 19:45
#8

love how misinformation can inspire gamers to make up things to improve the apperance of their console.



and no, it was reported earlier that even with the variable read speeds, the BD needs to achieve a 4x read speed to have the same adverage read speed of a 12x DvD drive.



while yes, technically it ISINT 2x as fast, it is still faster.



i think its also worth noting that it is an impossibility for a drive to read at a constant speed, not even Blu-Ray can do that, with the angle of the lens to make size larger, the larger number of errors are likely to happen, and will require rereads on data to be retrieved again. which forms that the BD can not ever possibly achieve a constant 2x read speed.



yes, the HD point is valid, but saying that hardly any 360 games use it is invaild as it is purely designer prefrence, and the likelyhood of a PS3 developer to utilize chache is slightly higher than the 360. (PS3 higher due to necissity)



oh and one last thing:

dont call yourself a Thorlord killer if you are purely out to spite, garner some respect for youself and from the community by actually giving yourself a name and registering.

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# Do sony fans know anything about technology?Guest 2006-05-10 00:18
The ps3 has 2x blu-ray, wich is slower than the xbox360, add the size of the blu-ray games and the load times will take almost forever, the HDD was added to lighten the load, but a HDD can only do so much.

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# the loading times are shortGuest 2006-05-10 09:20
Didnt you guys see the ps3 conference when they showed the grand turismo demo, the loadind time only took 2-3 seconds long to go from the menu to actual gameplay. they even said "pay special attention to the load times". Also, that game was running in 1080p resolution and un optimized on the dev kit. I hope the sata HDD drive that comes standard in both has a 3Gbit connection to the ps3, because then we will see very fast loading times and better textures for the ps3

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# PS3Guest 2006-05-16 14:45
599 it is

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