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Nintendo laughs last on Sony's PS3 announcement

Posted May 9, 2006 at 3:34AM EST by QJ Staff

Listed in: Wii, PS3, Xbox 360 Tags: e3, industry news

"Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery," said a Nintendo spokesperson to CNN Money.com's correspondent. Indeed, PS3's announcement with regards to their exclusive controller is something to laugh at. The two exclusive controllers look exactly the same but is said to be entirely different. Sony tries to explain that the new controller "is of industry standard." Consoles can come up with the same thing because it's already a given. It's almost saying that nobody owns the rectangle shaped controller and anybody can use the same idea. On one hand, Sony is right, however, could this be a sign of lack of creativity on Sony's end or it could be as complex as corporate espionage.

As E3 dawns another day, we can only wonder if the Xbox360 too will have something like the Wii Mote. More than the controllers, in the end, the question is the prices. With the prices of the Xbox360 and Playstation 3 at $400 to $500, maybe Nintendo will have something up their sleeves if they do announce that their console would only cost the rumored $250. I guess the best option for most of us is to wait for Nintendo's announcement in a few hours. Maybe they might have the last laugh.

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who has the last laugh??? i think everyone will be laughing once Nintendo hits the stage waving their wii's at everyone... it will be almost obscene.....No matter how badly sony's presentation is it will not matter when the competition has a name like wii....are they going to have a playable demo where gamers can play with their new Wii??/ or will the new slogan tie in with the ds and be Touching is good.....and touching your wii is even better.

# A — Guest 2006-05-09 05:04

Unsurprisingly - Sony pinch Nintendo's ideas again.

# $ony priced — Guest 2006-05-09 05:09

themselves out of this, the price alone will lose them huge market share, and the "cheaper" 500 one doesnt have Blue-ray, memory card reader, wifi, or hdmi so why would you buy that? Not to mention they stole XBL and the wiimote.

# they are dugg duggs — Guest 2006-05-09 05:11

Microsoft have done a good job keeping their pad nearly the same well atleast in layout, it ensures previous generation owners are happy and don't get agravated by a new complicated design. If the ps3 had a complete redesign with newer controls and buttons, previous owners will be annoyed. Simplicity is the key, that remote is just a gimic, there will be some games, but not many that utilise it.

Aren't we forgetting about the eye toy. With cell's capabilities, it can perform much better, able to detect people's movements. eg http://airguitar.tml.hut.fi/

this is what they can just do with the eye toy.

Also look at those crazy people on hollywood movies, they will tilt their controller madly, and often can make it more intresting to play.

Nintendo haven't done this now, they have done it in the past, remember the glove and there have been products that use 3d caputuring techniques.

Nintendo are just worried...

# Its true the Dual Shock is perfect and a general purpose controller — Guest 2006-05-09 05:25

Advancements in the controller model that has proven the test of time is the way to go. This is add more to the interfarce not cripple it or completely change it like what Nintendo has done.

This was a great move by sony. IGN reports that the new controller feels amazing while playing Warhawk. Also they have improve more than that.

Truly a solid performance from Sony. Now its up to Nin and MS to lose or win this thing. But Sony has set a high bar.

# Dual shock? — UltraDSA 2006-05-09 05:31

Why call it a dual shock when it can't rumble?

# Whats with the $ony FANBOYS!? — Guest 2006-05-09 05:33

This is the Nintendo Wii section. It seems that $onyboys need to post negative feedback on a Nintendo forum because they feel cheated in some way. Sony is making a HUGE mistake and embarassing themselves with their NEW controller.

I've got more creativity in my right index finger than Sony does in their entire Playstation division. Sony is going down! and Nintendo gets the last laugh!

# Should have waited. — Guest 2006-05-09 06:19

Nintendo should have waited to reaveal their consol till now.

# #9 — CHUCKINGROCKSATSPACESHIPS 2006-05-09 06:45

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# . — Guest 2006-05-09 06:48

i am *****ing sick of sony and their *****ing terrible business tactics. *****ing *****s

# what the hell! — Guest 2006-05-09 06:52

IS it true that the 500 dollar version wont have HDMI and Wifi and no SD And compact flash stuff? And That the controller has no vibration function anymore, so they had to fill it with a half ass motion sensitive thing?

# dafdsada — Guest 2006-05-09 06:52

u all suck, especially the one hu sed the cheaper ps3 hasnt got blueray u dumbass, r u little kids? ur gona look so kewl waving ur wii's about, grow up retarded **** faces, **** suckers

# yes — Ezekiel_Xz 2006-05-09 06:54

"IS it true that the 500 dollar version wont have HDMI and Wifi and no SD And compact flash stuff? And That the controller has no vibration function anymore, so they had to fill it with a half ass motion sensitive thing?"

Yes lol, oh and 2 of its spes are now being used for OS aswell as 70ish MBs of memory.

# Press Conference — Guest 2006-05-09 06:57

Well to be fair Nintendo just stole the show hands down.

# Dual Shock? — ibunkun 2006-05-09 06:59

japp i agree to post #8. Dual Shock was intreduced as a vibrating feedback, since the PS3 pad lack of it its not a dual shock. but i dont understand how they can say "sorry its not possible to sense what you are doing, while vibrating" those guys developed 8 Cpu cores on a surface as big as a stamp. nintendo got it done somehow plus a loudspeaker o__O". yuhu tilts coming forget rumbling - . - why should have any feedback*sigh* look i can let the duck dive just by throwing the the pad to the floor. i hope i can connect my DualShock with an adapter and the games support it somehow.

# break it down and check your facts — Guest 2006-05-09 07:04

check out the ps3 update site you spaztic ninnies.... seems like a bunch of you dont have your facts straight... question for you all with your wii in hand... ps3 will only have bluray format games.... so why would they have a ps3 without it? dumbasses... also the 499 and 599 were stated in euro if im not mistaken... and finally the differnce between the two versions is the one will have a 20 gb hdd without the hdmi, wifi and card readers (probably aimed for the casual who dont need or know how to use it) and the other will have a 60gb hdd and include those. take it all seperatly and check it yourself... i dont want you to overdo your brians with to much info nor to i want to be mistaken and have it all thrown out

# you are... — Guest 2006-05-09 07:04

you tell people to grow up then you insult everyone? and just because you have an image of being "cool" and "badass" to uphold you have to ***** on nintendo? go fanboys! right?

# scratch the euro pricing its in us — Guest 2006-05-09 07:10

my bad it was in us dollars, and thanks 19, you should repost that on every qj.net artical where their is bashing from oppossing fanboys... or wait could it be that they have people listen to thier bashing and misconceptions that keep them going.... rid of bashing... or rid of gulible twit? i say look it up for yourselfs before you listen to someone bash, if you do maybe those bashers will grow up and stop

# NOT a Fanboy! — Guest 2006-05-09 07:22

I'm not a fanboy. But i do think that the best controller is from Playstation. It just feels right i guess, have tryed them all. SuperNintendo's wasn't that bad either btw.

But owning a xbox360 and i really don't like the controller,sure it's better than the first one but still nowhere close to the Playstation's one.

# Just to make better sales — Guest 2006-05-09 07:24

I think Sony is selling two versions to make it seem like the 60GB one is the must have. If they just released a $600 system people wouldn't want to buy it. But if you show that the cheaper one can't do crap, people will think the expensive one is better by comparison.

Same thing with them showing GT1 and GT4 beside the GTHD. Doesn't seem that special until you see how sucky it could be.

Honestly, the only thing from the Sony show that impressed me was Heavenly Sword. That game looks pretty good and looks like it will have fun gameplay.

That EyeToy card game had promise...but still seemed a little glitchy to me.

# Gamecube controller = DualShock? — Guest 2006-05-09 07:27

They look pretty similar to me. Nintendo's not the most innovative either. They just tout it.

# Where can u watch microsoft xbox 360 e3 presentaion for free — Guest 2006-05-09 07:53

Where can u watch microsoft xbox 360 e3 presentaion for free

# Heh... — Guest 2006-05-09 07:53

I have yet to see anyone here mention the inherent flaw of having a blu-ray player without an HDMI output.

# HDMI only means no 1080P thats all. — Guest 2006-05-09 08:39

If you want the best looking resolution out there then HDMI is what you need. However if you dont have a HDTV that supports 1080P (super High Definition) then there is no need for HDMI. Also many HDTVs dont yet support HDMI.

The 499 is actually pretty good. But if you want the best that PS3 can throw at you the 599 is a no brainer. I love technology and just bought a plasma TV and I cant wait until my PS3 arrives this christmas. Heavenly Sword looks so heavenly!

# what — Guest 2006-05-09 08:56

what i dont understand is why would sony sell a system that is not fully upgradeable to the 600 dollar system, ex, HDMI

# Why wouldnt it be upgradeable? — Guest 2006-05-09 09:02

Add ons:

HardDrive swap

HDMI output addon

External Memory reader

Dont understand what you mean? Why do you think the PS3 has so many USB and other connectors. Thats right add-ons

# the reason... — Shatterdome 2006-05-09 09:13

The reason for this is that a little company sued both MS and Sony for using their intelectual rights (which was the "dual shock" design, or any controller with two analogs and built in rumblers on each side) Sony being Sony is tried to fight is, M$ being M$ bought out the smaller company.

After that a judge ruled that Sony had to discontinue selling anything that used the "dual shock" layout, and also there were some games they had to stop selling too (not sure why on that, the article never said) but Sony managed to suck some d*cks and get that overruled.

So that is the real reason they are trying to find a new controller scheme, that arguement that you can't patent or copyright a controller is what they used against M$ but the thing is if you can patent a design on a cpu, memory, muffler or any component of any machine (which you can) you can copyright the design on a controller....which I think nintendo should have done, or should do.....or course it may be patent pending, they can take awhile.......

Otherwise they would have just stuck to the same old design, maybe spiffing it up abit...

# to Ripper — Guest 2006-05-09 09:33

But come on, you have to admit that $600 is a big chunk of change. Most gamers are teen males and most teen males only make around $1000 a month. You'd blow half a month's pay on one system? That's a down payment on a car. That's a few house notes, that's three gallons of gas, lol.

Seriously, it's a big purchase. I plan on getting a PS3 like I said a year ago, but I will almost definately want to pre-order it and pay a little every month. What happens after launch and you can't pre-order?

That's going to be a lot of kid's ONLY christmas present.

# Old story. — Guest 2006-05-09 11:11

This price thing is old. If I can buy the PS3 for 599 Euro near launch, then I'll have payed about the same as I've paid for the PS2 two weeks after European launch. (That PS2, by the way, still runs fine.)

So it's not a bad price, especially considering that it has 60gb HDD, bluray, HDMI, Wifi, 1gbit ethernet, 4xusb, bluetooth, memcard readers, and so on. Sounds like pretty good value already, but at the same time we all know that the prices will go down soon enough.

In the launch period, not nearly all the, say, 50.000.000 PS2 owners (let's for the sake of it assume half of these systems died and went to console heaven) can upgrade to the PS3. By late March, only about 6.000.000 of them can have upgraded. So until that time, the system will continue to be expensive, and still continue to be sold. When 10.000.000 have been sold (I'm guessing after about half a year, max), prices will go down, I'm fairly sure.

But the Wii, now that system will probably be rather cheap, and it will be interesting to see how well that will sell. I'm predicting that initially it will sell fairly strong, lots of kids getting that one.

Xbox 360 has the advantage of early launch. But soon enough, the 360 is going to look a bit bland against the other systems, which will have these motion sensitivity innovations. I'm betting they will be pretty successful, and Xbox will either come with a new controller with new features, or become really, really cheap, in order to survive. Like the DS and the PSP, the Wii and PS3 will never really be in much competition - maybe in the minds of fanboys, but in reality they'll have different segments of the market and little to fear of each other. They'll each do fine, and will each expand the market yet again.

# wow.... — Guest 2006-05-09 11:25

Face it, when you are scared and want to protect your own property, you laugh at others.... this is what Nintendo is doing right now, saying that Sony copied their controller... but PS3's controller detects tilt, and revolution detects general movement... Im not being bias here, as I like bother the "Wii" and the PS3, and is a hybrid of Sony and Nintendo fanboy... Still shouldnt Nintendo be embarrased that they named it the "Wii" instead of laughing at others?

# Cost — Vietone 2006-05-09 13:14

Xbox360 core is 400 bucks while premium is 500 bucks.

PS3 core is 500 while ps3 premium is 600 bucks.

600 bucks is a cheap price. Which Blu-ray standalone players costing 1000+ I estimated 500-800 bucks for the console. 600 bucks is easy for me and i have no problem with it.

# . — drunkenmonky 2006-05-09 13:25

fanboys are somthing else. ps3 is for rich people plain and simple. sony better pray to god(s) that blueray doesnt flop, since hddvd camiout and sold out, oh ya and is cheaper than bd, which also have 80 movies out before june. i think sony needs to make up there own equipment, this makes them look like they are just plain copycats, i understand copying live but the wii control? thats plain and simple dumb.

i love the fact that you see that its not cg this year and the games dont look as awsome as they did last year!

oh ya if the rumors are true that they will do a price drop when the ps3 comes out i think that Wii and 360 are going to run over PS3 on price alone. and i want to get a ps3 i'm going to wait till price drops, and this is someone that has a psp ps2 ps1 and a hd tv to play the ps3 on, i guesse my 360 is getting more attention this year than i planned, but im already making space for my Wii (i luv mario, he makes me feel gooey inside)

oh and a final not HALO 3, i dont care how many fanboys cry halo 2 is still #1 on live and almoast 2years old!

so stop saying that they have more games that are sony only because the lost grand theft auto. wich ms will get a live feature, that sony wont. i guess that sony not looking so good to developers as it did.

# Sucks — Guest 2006-05-09 13:31

Did anyone actually look closely at this video? The physics is actually pretty bad in some cases. Look at some of the frames and you will see a hand inside the ball, and a hand go through the rim. Not exactly what I would call awesome physics.

# Welcome back DualShock — Guest 2006-05-09 13:36

I mean no insult to Nintendo but I will take the PS3 controller any day over nintendo's TV remote.

# no. — Vecha 2006-05-09 14:05

Xbox360 core is 400 bucks while premium is 500 bucks.

"

360 core is 300 bucks

360 premium is 400

ps3 Core(if you will) is 500

Ps3 premium(if you will) is 600

# @34 — Guest 2006-05-09 14:08

Actually Vietone the xbox 360 sold from $299 (for the core) and $399 (for the premium).

Even the cheapest (crippled) version of the PS3 is $100 more expensive than the premium xbox.

From the screenshots we've seen (the ones that have been release recently) it really doesnt look like its even worth the extra $200 as I dont see it really offering much over what the xbox360 is doing, and well its got nothing on the revolution/wii.

# Why Can't Wii Be Friends? — Guest 2006-05-09 14:12

Good points, #31 Arwen.

Nintendo has said many times that they aren't trying to make you buy Wii instead of the other consoles. They feel you'll want to have Wii in addition or the others in addition to Wii. DS has no problem that some of their fans own PSPs. Nintendo doesn't care that many people already own 360s.

Who says that you can't own more than one system? This loyalty to one system is stupid if the other ones are great, too. However, since PS3 and 360 are essentially just going for big graphics, I'll choose the stronger out of the two: PS3.

But first and foremost I want a Wii. Almost every game they mentioned I'd love to play. Can't say that with the competitors. For sony all I'd play is Heavenly Sword and FFXIII.

# a — Guest 2006-05-09 14:34

360 is more powerful than the ps3

# Sucks — Guest 2006-05-09 14:51

#41, are you kidding? Have you even looked at the specs? They match in some areas, but the CELL processor is much more powerful than the set of PPC processors the 360 has.

# no hdmi — Guest 2006-05-09 15:00

no hdmi on the cheaper version means blu-ray movies can't be displayed in HD. You will be stuck with 480p only as a HDCP compatible HDMI slot is required for the higher resolutions in a majority of the blu-ray movie releases. This also means no 1080p for games, but you will still get 720p and 1080i using component cables.

# #42 — DarkLegacy 2006-05-09 16:39

Incorrect. It is not MUCH more powerful. Did you not forget that all 3 CPU's are by IBM? You need to swing over to there website where they did there test on the Cell. With all 8 SPE's in activation, it runs 14% faster than the CPU found in the Xbox 360. You also need to take note that the Ps3 only uses 7 of them. Then within that 7, one of them is fully dedicated to the Linux OS, so that leaves 6 for the developers to work with. Giving it about a 8-10% advatange over the Xbox 360 CPU according to how well distributed the game information is transfered amoung the 6 SPE's. Something that most developers have already claimed is much easier said than done. Sony really pulled a screw Job on everyone into gaming. I am very disappointed with there showing. MS & Nintendo really handed them there ass with each of there confrences. The PS3 confrence was more of a mixture of ideas taken from both MS & Nintendo backed up by a Subpar selection of titles. There highlight of the whole thing was that interactive Card battle thing. Which I'll admit was very impressive.

# Hahaha — Guest 2006-05-09 18:36

With the new controller for PS3, Nintendo's infereior Wii is now finally obsolete. The only thing Nintendo going for it is the controller, and without the contoller, Nintendo's screw. Same as 360. With PS3 online, there's no need for 360 Live anymore.

# 6 Degree's — Guest 2006-05-09 19:01

Maybe I read it wrong on IGN, but i thought the PS3 controller had Six Degree's of tilt (which to me reads it will detect up to 6 degree's of tilt on the X, Y, and Z axis) while the Wii clearly offers a full range of motions. and as for PS3 online, other than saying it can go online, what does it offer? I havnt heard much on it, does it offer voice & video chat? Downloadable demo's and trailers? Integration with my computer? Downloadable retro & retro-esque games? How much will it cost? How many people will it be able to support in a match? Will it have a quick and accurate match-making system, or lobbies, or both? Will it have music videos? I am just asking, honestly, because without hearing anything on it I am going to have to stick with Xbox Live (and Live Anywhere soon)

PS: ff13 looked amazing if thats in-game, if not I feel very decieved

# again.. — Guest 2006-05-09 19:09

Plain and simple. Sony copies Nintendo's ideas again

# controllers — zorax 2006-05-09 22:24

When looking at the "Wii VC Remote", who has copied who? It looks just like a dual shock controller, just flatter!

Ok they got the tilt function from nintendo but I think that a tilt function sounds much better then a "do- anything-by-moving-ur-controller function"

For sony to keep the dual shock controller is the best thing they could do, cuz it's perfect as it is...

# PS3 and Wii — Guest 2006-05-10 00:09

I will get both. I cannot understand how anyone can say that the Wii is going to die, it is getting so much of the spotlight at E3 this year. People seem to be much more interested in it than anything else. The controller is awesome too.

That being said I will more than likely buy a PS3 and a Wii.

# Sigh — Guest 2006-05-10 00:39

You did read it wrong on IGN.

Six degrees of movement detection is not six degrees of tilt.

The PS3 controller detects movement along all 3 axis (x,y,z), and detects tilt along all 3 axis (a.k.a. yaw, pitch and roll), totalling 6. I think at GDC people will learn to appreciate this a little better.

And yes, the Cell processor isn't much faster than the Xenon for regular operations. But when it comes to certain types of calculations, such as fast-fourier transforms and other stuff that among others is required for encoding/decoding streams, physics calculations, and mass AI routines, the Cell can be over 100 times faster than the Xenon. This is what people talk about when they think the Cell will be able to outperform the Xbox. Compare it, if you will, with the inclusion of the Agaia PhysicsFX chip in your PC, a chip specialised in similar kind of processing, much more efficient at such calculations than your regular Intel / AMD main processor.

Finally, the latest HDMI isn't required for HD output on the PS3, it is only required for protected BluRay HD movies. This means that, eventually when nearly all TVs have HDMI interfaces, it may be possible that you won't be able to run some movies at full HD resolution because of protection schemes. But it is not even sure that will ever happen, and it is sure not to happen very soon. It certainly won't affect your ability to play a HD game on the PS3 in 1080P (as long as your TV is able to display that format).

# PS3 RUNS LINUX, BEAT THAT — Guest 2006-05-10 04:31

that remote control thing for wii, will be useles, my rooms is tiny and I don't expect it to be very useful, unless you have a big room to play it in, such as that tennis game. Look how far you had to move. It isn't practical for people and people, at least professional gamers want to use both of their hands.

they have done this in the past and it hasn't made much difference.

what a load of bull... , the Cell processor isn't much faster than the Xenon " it is a lot better, on floating point calculations and has a higher calculation per cycles. Plus it has much more faster memory and generally if sony marketing the fact it "RAN LINUX" out of the box and use it for a computer. People would flock to buy it...

# We have a winner... — Guest 2006-05-10 05:35

43. » no hdmi

no hdmi on the cheaper version means blu-ray movies can't be displayed in HD. You will be stuck with 480p only as a HDCP compatible HDMI slot is required for the higher resolutions in a majority of the blu-ray movie releases. This also means no 1080p for games, but you will still get 720p and 1080i using component cables.

WTG No. 43.... You're the first person I have seen that picked up on this. That's why I just put it out there w/o explaining. Fanboyism is fun, and it's funny to see people spout off w/o knowing wtf they are talking about. Heh, no one is even talking about it...

Not ALL BluRay movies will force you to downscale, but I have to believe that given the option, the movie companies will flag it, and you're SOL without HDMI.

That's why it's silly to not get the $600 version (if you do plan to get a PS3), even if you dont have an HD set, or think you won't watch HD movies....eventually that all can change....

# Just caught this... — Guest 2006-05-10 05:39

No. 50: "It certainly won't affect your ability to play a HD game on the PS3 in 1080P (as long as your TV is able to display that format)."

Yes it will affect your ability since component cables dont do 1080p. No HDMI means only 1080i max resolution.

Not that that even matters...most hdtv's are still only 720p native resolution. The TV companies are still bamboozling people, making them think they are getting a 1080i or 1080p set when in reality it only supports taking the signal and then converts it to it's native resolution.

# I myself will buy myself a PS3 — Guest 2006-05-10 06:33

I myself will buy myself a PS3 I already have a xbox 360 (Which im a bit dissapointed at...) and I may also buy some wii! I will only buy Wii if I spot any good games though... which lets face it will be a year or so... Im 18 so I dont want any Pokemon and digicheese or any of that crap! But if they release something like resident evil or something alike I shall buy it.

And just to make things clear PS3 is much better then 360 in the graphics department, I know because I have seen a PS3 dev and I also have a 360 (as I stated earlier) and trust me 360 isnt that good...

But back on topic I think Wii will be good for kids and such! So I hope they enjoy Kirby and Pokemon in a whole 256bits! whoa that would be good a 256bit console from ninty

# hahahaha — ZXC21 2006-05-10 07:12

Wii Hahahahah PS3 will own that and the 360.

# lmao — Guest 2006-05-10 07:49

sony are copycats they suck just like they are trying to copy xbox live end of story

# #50 is right Except for the 1080P comment — Guest 2006-05-10 08:26

Yeah without HDMI there will be no 1080P. No HDMI however does not mean you will not be able to play HDTV movies.

Toshiba's first HDDVD player doesnt have HDMI and therefore doesnt support 1080P. 1080i is turned into 740p by most HDTVs since they are progressive by nature. So when you see 1080i be careful of mistaken it to the all amazing 1080P.

PS3 will play BDRom Movies! Even without HDMI. It will however display them at 1080i (again this = 740p for most). HDMI also includes new security features but they will depend on the movie studios including them in their movies. Since most people won't have HDTVs with hdmi inputs, in the begining movies will not have HDMI security. In the future who knows.

so to recap:

No HDMI = 740P/1080i No HDMI security support

HDTV Movies are definitely playable!

# Let them crash and burn!! — Skorpious 2006-05-10 08:44

I say let the Fanboys buy their PS3 before the reviews are out. if they want to blow 600.00(not including tax and such) let them. If they were thinking straight they would wait, and see if its all true. All the E3 Expo did was show us all that Sony cannot be trusted to deliver.

And it would be foolish to put down 600.00 (not including tax and such) on a pre order when you dont know exactly what your going to get.

Lets face it Sony is Only taking what they think works from each competitor. They have even admitted doing so in an earlier interview. They are not inovative.

Lastly, for anyone who is here trying to figure out which system is the one they should buy. I say wait!!! If you cant wait, I recomend the 360. After tooking at what all 3 systems have to offer, the 360 just does more. the specs between ps3/360 balance each other out in what it can do performance wise.

IGNORE THE FANBOYS!!

I am not a fan boy. I just want a great gaming experience and for me 360 hits the mark.

If ps3 came out and had a better gaming experience I would buy it in a heart beat.

All im saying is wait and choose carefully.

Which one truly has what you want in a Console?

# Don't know... — Guest 2006-05-10 09:28

#57, I'm not too sure that just because SDTV owners don't have an HDMI input, that means the studios won't flag the discs...it's not like an SDTV would be able to do anything outside 480i/480p anyway. Most HDTV's come with HDMI inputs these days, and thats the ones we're concerned with. Of course those same TV's usually have only ONE HDMI input, and usually that one is occupied by their choice of cable/satellite provider.

But the big picture is ripping HD movies into a PC and then sharing them over the internet. I think this is where the movie studios will indeed opt to flag the disc for HD on HDMI only. Studios based their support decisions of a particular format on major factors, and piracy is a BIG ONE. This is all pure speculation, but I would find it hard to believe that the studios wouldn't take advantage of the copy protection available to them.

Computers have become more prevalant and easier to use, and everyday someone is ripping a new copy of a movie to share "illegally". That puts movie studios out some bottom line dollars, and you just don't f*** with peoples money in our captialist world.

# 50, 52, 53 & 57 "HDMI" — drunkenmonky 2006-05-10 14:05

the cheaper version not only doesnt have hdmi it also doesnt play blue ray movies!

and just incase that you dont know. there will not be an upgrade available (is what was said), for those who cant afford to pay for the blueray but want it later.

unlike ms you can buy the hd after the fact and the hddvd is if you want it you spend the extra money for it. so it looks like sony is trying to say if you dont have the money for the premium than you dont deserve having any of the goodnes that is bd. i think that in this case sony should make the non bd version $299 or $399 not $499. you realy dont get anything with you $499 plus tax theyve removed all card readers 802.11 and gigaethernet.

i mean damn compare the core and premium of the 360 and the core and premium of the ps3.

# Hah, "The price is in Euro's" — Guest 2006-05-10 14:31

Some guy said "i think the stated price was in Euro's", well you are *****ING retarted. The Euro is a stronger curency than the dollar, and 500 Euros is MORE MONEY than 500 dollars. So to whoever said that, ***** you

# sony rulez — Guest 2006-05-10 22:22

I like the idea that sony has decided to keep the dual shock controller design the same, because it works out better for us Hard Core Gamerz...LOL! can't wait for the New PS3

# fork a pie — Guest 2006-05-10 23:16

go and fork a pie you little kids.

# DT — III AnubisX III 2006-05-15 13:56

So I guess they'll be calling this one the DualTilt.

# sony smells — Guest 2006-05-25 13:04

i think 99% non gamers will buy a wii

i think 1% non gamers will buy other

and sony will **** your balls

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