not revolutionary and not going to sell. leave wii stuff for the wii. idk what 360 wants, they wanna be a console for pro gamers or a bad ripoff of the wii. they didnt announce one good game for 09 and spent 1 hr talking about this lame camera. if 360 wants to be a console they should stick to ripping off one console not 2 because its not working out

Dude are you retarded? from this post the answer has to be yes, whats wrong with a multi purpose gaming device? can a console only have one specific market? obviously not, the technology thats behind this is phenominal and will easily change the future of the video gaming industry a controller less console and how can u say they rip off the wii and ps3? the 360 demoilishes them both sure ideas are the same but microsoft has killed the stupid japs!!



its idiots like you that stop the gaming industry progressing cause ur scared of change!

I can see that it is pretty responsive in the live presentations but if you look closely at the pre made presentation you can see varying delay times and even some times where the action is already produced on screen before the person produces the motion. While I think this can do a little more than the eye toy, what they showed at the pre made trailer is kind of far away.

Who out of the blue would say Milo you didn't do your homework did you? There are things you can say and then there are pre-made responses. And as much as I would want to believe "This was not acted and Claire had the urge to catch the goggles."(or something similar) the fact is its most likely pre made responses. A true AI can't just pop out of nowhere especially magically out of nowhere when MS announces Natala.

Natal. Don't know why I said Natala, I guess I think it's a better name since natal is kind of a weird name. Maybe cause it's they gave birth to it, only reasonable reason I can think of why they would name it something like that even though PS Eye Toy is basically a more basic version of this.

I was going to say exactly what phi said, and if that actually does turn into a game, it's going to be the most boring game ever

if it works as well as the video shows, then it will be awesome. But i doubt it will. They said the ps eye would be this responsive, and i have one and it's not. I love the way they cut the video though. Showing the camera in just the right place to have the tv object move right with the hand, and the blue light on the skateboard when it was scanning...lol. It's a brilliant idea, but until i see it in action, i'll be skeptical. And the Milo demo would be more believable if it showed multiple people who had never dealt with it before interacting with it. Well see if this will be worth the price tag with time...Definitely not buying it right when it comes out though.

Watch now! The 360 will dominate the Wii son. Quit being such a PS3 fanboy and face the music!

to dominate the Wii...

no controller and they demonstrated it right in front of the audience live on the stage, so i think it's going to be pretty good...and lets face it the Wii's motion sensoring games only work good for the Nintendo developed games not the 3rd...they straight sucks balls.

I know cause i own all 3 consoles. 360-PS3-& a Wii.

Please tell me where I said I believe the Milo vid is 100% real and made completely with the tech? I said "If it actually works as it does in the Milo demo, this is amazing". As in if the final product does what they show. Understand?



I have no doubt it was scripted, that came into my mind as soon as I started playing the vid and heard the responses. But they don't make tech demos for no reason, and MS payed a lot for the company that is making this tech. It's not just smoke and mirrors, the video means this is what they are working on. Whether or not it'll work that well remains to be seen. The cam is coming out in fall with some simple games you can play but stuff like Milo won't happen for at least a year or two



sony player, do you know what a tech demo is?

aww the little boys are defending there machine like it gave birth to them..



look you say that he is a fan boy and you instiantly do the F{ucking same?



kid grow the F up already.

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Natal. Don't know why I said Natala, I guess I think it's a better name since natal is kind of a weird name. Maybe cause it's they gave birth to it, only reasonable reason I can think of why they would name it something like that even though PS Eye Toy is basically a more basic version of this. "



Just wanted to comment on how this makes since and to back up on Microsoft's way of naming their product.



We all know. Even though the Xbox 360 name depicts a large numerical value (based on by previous console generations) it is still only the 2nd Generation of Xbox. Why would Microsoft do this? Because people will (at least a majority of people do react to Marketing this way) be attracted to the higher number, the illusion of seniority, and a much larger number than "3", which is the current generation of Playstation and appropiately named so.



Onto why...



Obviously they are trying to dominate the Wii and PS3 as much as possible, to soak up the popularity of the industry of video games and its uncontrollable growth.



Dominate Wii - Motion sensing technology, new avatars, new sensor technology for faces. Face detection is really the icing. It is new, like the wireless controller standard for decent consoles, new(er) like the Wii's motion sensor. Face detection can also kill the "Party Play" hype with the Wii too. Families will be able to sit in the couch and (assumably) log in to the xbox with no other action required. To "Sit", simplifies the process of booting your gaming device. From, the stone age of powering on your console, selecting user, enter password?, connect online/login into online service. Lazy? Yes, but simple and apparently what the future is "supposed" to hold, simplicity. This factor obviously competes with both the Wii's and PS3's current abilities.



Dominate PS3 - while the device is very cool and continues to add yet another counterpart to the video game industry, It really won't persuade ppl to buy just the 360 (assuming Natal does cost an arm an a leg, like most cutting techies, i havent watched the video w/ audio yet, take note if the price is otherwise suggested). This device will most likely be able to add a "Six Axis" effect to games that will need a controller quite easily i would imagine.



Natal, when finished and if it operates as the video depicts, will simply revolutionize the current generation of video game consoles. Think about the "Apps" and interactive arcade games and what they could do with this accessory. Think about the programming that could take advantage of this.



Also, let it be known, that I also believe Microsoft is inching towards a Windows/Xbox merge. Yes Facebook, Twitter, and Last.fm are very small integrations towards a PC merger but are still steps, none the less. The ability to add Windows 7 to either the 360 or next generation of xbox is coming. We know Microsoft could do it, especially if they fight Sony and Nintendo on the "Second generation nano/slim versions" front. By that I mean releasing a second generation 360, that just so happens to be slimmer, have a faster processor, have new cutting techies (bluetooth, Natal built in, Wireless N, Gigalan, etc.,), and have a bigger hard drive and the option to install Windows 7 of course.



Think about it. Ubuntu and other Linux distros are getting more and more compatible with their PC market aswell as increasing popularity with netbook versions and MID devices. Also, piracy is a big issue with Windows because of the cost and the simplicity of doing so because of hackers.



How could they fight that on all fronts? Why not release an Operating System, such as a Windows 7 version for your gaming console, that has had the fewest hacks out of most current gen consoles or at least exploits. The console that averages 8/+ games owned per console. They could have the Windows version download and install itself from Xbox Live. A store they control and oversee, where no physical copy of it can be obtained. They could unlock its abilities as a gaming c

Your comment is so EPIC FANBOY FAIL



You want epic fail, look at Sony's PSP Go! and their PS3 Slim. Nothing new that hasn't already been done, plus more restrictions. What's the point in having a PSP if it can't use UMDs. The original PSP already had that "Go!" aspect with it being PORTABLE!! Sony says "You want more portability? We've taken out the use UMDs so you can worry less about the weight, plus you'll walk faster." Depending on the price, I might buy the Slim because my PS3 broke down months ago.



Didn't announce 1 good game for 09? Let's see, heres two: Halo ODST, Modern Warfare 2. MW2 may not be an exclusive, but they did "announce" it. So if you are saying that MW2 isn't going to be a good game, you have problems.



As for 360 ripping off stuff from other consoles. The 360 started ripping off the Wii since the avatars were announced last year. It's not just the 360 though, don't forget about the PS3 and their trophy system and online video content. I'm sure you won't acknowledge it if Sony announces something that involves ripping off the other consoles, but I'm sure you'll go head over heels when Sony announces that Home will be out of Beta by the end of the year. Those gamers who wanted a motion controller, whoever they are, got something even better than getting something exactly the same.



The camera looks interesting. It certainly beats having to reach for the controller when you are watching a movie. It might attract some Wii users, but they won't just be buying the camera, they are buying the console as well. Live video chat, looks fun, if you are into those kind of things. "Ever wondered what the bottom of avatar the shoe looks like? Bam! There you go!" That was funny. That game where you interact with that kid, Milo I think, who here seriously wouldn't want to be an assh*le to the kid?



"Hi, what's your name?"

"Milo"

"No, your new name is Pen*s"

lol 'OH MY GOSH ARE YOU READY FOR THE PARTY YET?'



But yeah, i can't see this working nearly as easily as it does in the vid.



Would probably take like 20 attempts to 'scan' a skateboard.



Sniff sniff i smell bulls**t

stop being a ps3 fanboy xbox xbox xbox xbox



who's the fanboy?

your the fanboy Mr Xbot

You mad?? you hating??? It's hard not to :>

i mean my prev project is about object recognition using normal industrial camera with just fpga.. i don't see why this won't work.. of course there will be delays and misdetection.... let's just see how they're going to utilize this tech then.. altho i personally want a real steering w/ feedback...

And gave it up because it didn't sell worth s#it. Nobody that owns a 360 really cares about that kind of gaming. It's not an insult, they just like really difficult shooter games and stuff and if they call the Wii a gimmick then they will look at this in the same light.

I'm wondering about this Nadal Project, how is it exactly going to work?? no control, ok good. But if it automatically detects stuff, like what if your cat or someone comes and pushes you off, or would it have interference if someone is right behind you??

.....Too many questions...........The Wii, its has a control so it can't interfere with other Controls.



Anyways, Xbox360 trying to target the Youth and family oriented Video Gamers. lets say, they want to tell people to "BE ACTIVE" lolz.



I don't know about XBOX 360.......and this Project...... It looks kool but then again idk even wana think what problems or glitches it could have.........Sorry Xbox360 until you dont give better service and make consumers pay for your Failing XBOX 360 Ring of Death. and that Mother Board glued with cheap glue that once your XBOX heats up too much it basically deattaches.





PS3, ok making a PS3 Slim, ehhhh......Not exactly what I'm looking for. One drop and I would kill myself bcz there's 500 bucks. I'll stick with the Original PS3!! and KILLZONE 2!!!! Wahaha! lolz.



PSP GO! ok, yea its a new PSP, sorry for people who bought PSP-3000. I sticked with my PSP-1000 Yep, you heard it im still with the Original PSP! I wouldn't Mind buying this PSP GO!!



Sony is better of to go, when you know you can combine stuff you already own.



Example:

-Sony Cyber-Shot Digital Camera (Memory Stick Pro Duo)

-PSP (Memory Stick Pro Duo)

-PS3 (Any Memory Card)

-BB *Blackberry Phone* (Micro SD Card)

*WAIT! Micro SD + Pro Duo Adapter!



You basically have Music, Video, Pictures, Etc... in your Blackberry, and you want to use it for PSP, NO problem! use Pro Duo Adapter BAM! oh wait, but you want to take picture on the camera, Swtich it.... BAM!! Oh now you want to see pictures on your PS3 BAM!!!



Blackberry Pictures r 1600x1200

GREAT RESOLUTIONS!!

Camera + HD

Music, Blackberry automatically searches all Folders for music, so no necessary to move Folders to a different location than the PSP's Music folder.



XBOX 360, What Can You DO for Me??? .........hmmmm......ummmm.......ehhhhhh.....NOTHING! LOLZ



XBOX 360 Can't Upgrade HDD

PS3 You Can Upgrade!!!



16GB Micro SD + Pro DUo Adapter + PSP/Sony Camera + Ultra Storage and Power!!



but wait, what if you Combine "2 x" 16GB Micro SD + Dual Micro SD Pro Duo Adapter + PSP/Camera + 32GB's ULTIMATE GAMING, STORAGE AND POWER!!!!!!!!

If that was the case, I doubt Sony would have made their magic wand thingy.



The eyetoy has an amazing microphone and a decent enough camera....so it should be able to do the facial/voice recognition.....but you will not see the level of control in 3D space that the natal has.



The reason for this is eyetoy only has one lens, the natal it using two. This gives the natal a 3D view of what's in front of it, eyetoy can't do that.



Still, like the Wii has shown, it's up to the developers to actually use it well and make games for it. If only a couple games come out for it that really use it well, than whats the point ?

Looks like too much work. My arms would get tired from the racing and stuff. As long as you can still use the controller, I'm good