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patience

patience, my young padawan

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when will sony learn that they are frikkin bollocks at inventing new formats.

Movies for PSP are a bad idea anyway.

They won't put out the movies that people want to see and they won't bring the tiny UMD's down to a tiny price.

needs to be cheaper

UMD movies should be like $5 dollars each. I would buy a few movies at that price.

UMDs are anachronisms

Why would someone buy a UMD when they can buy a DVD for the same price or less. A DVD has more features and if you really want it on PSP you can rip from the DVD and encode it for your PSP. Some marketing retard at Sony should be shot.

sonys moving a different way

i read on engadget that sony is gonna start selling movies on 1 or 2 gig memory sticks. its wierd but jus go to their site, its new news

UMDs = Nothin..

they should learn by now that nobody feels like carring something bigger (thicker) than a CD now a days... well thats my point.. many psp owners just carry one game inside their psp just to save space without others umds... tech should be used there... downloadble... n how bout memory sticks with movies?? something that cant be formatted or whatever!!!

i agree with #5

umds are way over priced, lots are even more expensive than dvd's and have less features and can only be see on a psp with no line out or any way of watching them on anything else. they should make it down to no more than $10 for the new good onesand like $5 for the regular ones, then theyd be worth it but for now i'd go with dvd.

WAL MART PULLING UMDS

I myself am a wal mart associate. I work in the back and noticed there were boxes full of umd movies i asked my fellow employees and they told me we would not carry anymore movies in the umd format so they had to send those back.

think about this...

what if it means that sony realised what a peice of crap the umd "caddy" is... i only have one that is in playable condition and i just swap the naked umds through the top edge.

yeah

you guys are right. umd movies should NOT be as expensive as regular DVDs. its not everyday that someone gets a PSP. so this was bound to happen thanks to piracy and the small resolution. people complain too much about the screen being so itty bitty, y'know?

MS Movies

like #7 said, the idea of a MSD with a movie loaded on it would be a great idea aslong as you can load other stuff on it and aslong as a movie is small memory size cuz all my mp4's are around 800 mb and aslong as you can take it off and swap in another with like a download service they can do or something like that.

Memory stick?

Odds are if they start putting movies on memory sticks instead of UMDs, they'll use some form of ROM (Read Only Memory) card; that'll keep the price down to realistic levels (a flash memory card that would hold UMD quality video would cost the same as a 1-2GB memory card right now). Course that means that memory card wouldn't be able to be used for anything other than the movie (i.e. it can't be erased/written to), but I'm sure that's what they plan.

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The reason they are not selling is because UMDs are a piece of *****, period.

Heh.

Let's see, you can most likely buy a DVD cheaper, with more features, and a DVD player doesn't have a battery right? No, so the movie's won't suck the battery out in two hours. I wonder why these didn't sell then?

Universal Media my @$$

The fact that they charge the same price as a dvd for a video that has the movie and previews on it and nothing else is a bit beyond lame. I tried out "APPLESEED"(great movie by the way. get the dvd) using the psp2tv on my new 46" lcd. I chose this particular movie because of how intense the visuals are. Well It may be the fact that my monitor is too big and too clear. But it was a great dissapointment. The home screen is a bit choppy but with a little adjustment things get smoothed out. The games are pixelated but not as bad as the movies. I've tried this before on my old tv. But that was a 26" console. And it was still a bit choppy but it didn't have the huge squares that showed up on the lcd. MaxMedia and proper editing to the videos that you encode is the way to go in my humble opinion. The bar down the street from my place sometimes lets me hook the psp up to their plasma when the game isn't on, and the picture is much cleaner with the videos I've set up than what I got with the umd.

UMD should have been for games only.

The movies and music were a bad idea for the UMD. People were excited because they thought UMD's would be used in a large assortment of devices and there would be burners available. I remember when Sony even considered allowing the PSP to burn data onto blank UMD's. Well after all of that we ended up with a format that will only last until the PSP goes under in about 5 years.

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So, what happens when the umds go off of the shelves -- you have this slot in the back of your psp for nothing? - and the whole dvd ripping thing hasn't really worked for me - it seems that there is always one chapter on the dvd - that's in another language... does this happen to others? --- the only time i could really watch the movie was when i ripped a rigion 2 movie - das vermächtnis der tempelritter. --- german - national treasure - when i ripped it - the audio track on the entire ripped and converted to mpeg4 file set was in English - and the last chaper was in german - which i understand - and i was able to watch that movie - but you'd figure that the whole movie would have been in german since it was the german dvd --- how would i set the rip language? - if i can't buy the umd's then - i want to at least be able to rip dvd's so that i can understand them - for example - the american region 1 - shreck 2 movie -- was half in french when i ripped it :-/

the real reason why umd movies suck

im going to tell teh truth weither or not my account gets banned but because there is no porn on the umds they are not selling think about it vhs pron dvd pron lol

from 15

My sentiment exactly…$5 would be too much, after tax you’re closer to $10…for what? And just exactly how-the-hell many copies of Shrek do I need? I would like someone to give me a good reason to buy a UMD…the Sony marketing and development department obviously had a few. At the end of this year I’m going to be the high bidder on a UMD (.01 + $1.99 s&h) and place it next to my Betamax, DAT and MiniDisc collection of Sony’s failed view on the American marketplace

about time!!!!!!!

UMD Movies Suck anyway. I haven't bought a single movie yet, and never will! Seemed like a good concept but prices killed it! If they sold for $4.99 maybe I would of bought some. Yeah, get them of the shelves , they're just taking up space!

Sorry to say,

but they're not pulling UMDs off of the shelves, moron. I almost crapped my pants when you made that the title. On the other hand, UMD movies and music? THEY SUCK! BRING THEM OFF OF STORE SHELVES ALL YOU WANT! It'll make more room for real UMD content, like games!!!!

yeah

I mean why should you lug around a disc for one movie that you cant watch anywhere else instead of just putting 5 on a memory stick and taking them off watching them on pc when you like convert dvd's to memory stick !

AHHHHHHHH

I a fine with them letting go of movies. But if they get rid of Games im gonna be so pissed.

meh

Sony should just give up on the UMD format and stick to releasing stuff on memory stick. At least the duo/pro duo format isn't gonna die anytime soon.

Maybe just a sale?

My wife told me about some UMD games at Target last week going for $5-10 also, maybe it was just a sale on all UMDs? She wasn't too interested in titles but knew Infected was one and she said another was some sort of army game...

yeah...

If they were cheaper then they would be a hit. They cost as much as a DVD and if your going to get a movie you want to be able to watch it on more than your psp. People just buy bigger memory sticks and put movies on those. I personally have never bought a UMD movie.

UMD's are not Universal!

Sad, they are cool! If Sony would have made something earlier to make it so you could watch a UMD (UMD player?) on your TV, then they would have lasted...if not then drop the price! ~$20 for a movie that you could watch only on your PSP? Everyone buys movies (DVD's) but not everyone has a PSP. So in order sell them to us, don't make them so expensive...$10 or less is more like it! What were you thinking Sony?

20

thare is. im not sure whare you can get it but i remember reading an article about that stuff being sold on UMD

READ THIS!!! SANDISK 12 GB Memory Stick!!!

On a japanese site i translated, it had some news about a 12GB memory stick coming for the release of spring 2007 in sync with the PS1 emulator to alow for more data. No, im not telling qj what the website is, but i did copy the image and upload it. Here are quotes from the anoynimous japanese website. "12 gigbyte sandisk brand memory stick to be released around 春分の日." NOTE: the translator i used did not translate the japanese symbol shown. Further investigation into the symbol showed that is was a japanese holiday around spring. I tried sending this to qj net thing however, for some reason after two attempts, did not go through. More quotes, "This high capacity storage device is being released as an alternative to holding your ps1 iso's, well, that is at least the intention of sandisk. The predicted price is 39,800 yen." Does anyone know how much that is in american or uk money??? It sounds liike alot. Hopefully qj will read this and post this. Lastly, you can check out this cool products picture here. http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i290/xsouthpole/SANDISK12GBMSD.jpg Once again i say I AM NOT POSTING THE SITE TILL I GET PROPER CREDIT FOR FINDING THIS.

bleh

bull***** probably, it should say 12GB instead of 12.0GB and it could be edited easily. Well, looks like UM Studios want their movies to be downloaded off torrents, converted, and placed on our memory sticks :/

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I also work in electronics at a target, and we pulled the umd movies off the shelves about a week ago.

haha

LOL @ comment #1

dang

that 12 gig is 330 usd

UMD MOVIES SUCK

Why buy UMD Movies? They should just give up on trying to sell movies or music on UMD or Memorystick. Lets face the facts the Sony Memorystick Sucks VS SANDISK and UMD Movies are not selling. What Sony needs to do is sell the UMD Burner and Blank discs for a reasonable price. SONY GIVE US A UMD BURNER!!!!!!!!!!

would have worked.

there are two ways this would have worked, 1. the psp had a built in video out, then you wouldnt have to rebuy the movie for your tv. 2. made them at most $10. and how could a $5 umd be $10 after taxes? last i knew sales tax wasnt 100%

walmart pulls umd's

walmart pulled them already. i asked if they still had them in clearance or anything and they said they never dropped the price. they just sent them all back.

die in a fire

UMD MOVIES SHOULD NOT COST THE SAME AS DVDS *****ING IDIOTS HRMM DVD? OR ***** UMD ON A TINY SCREEN....HR!M!M@M!M whatever, umd movie idea died before it began

to number 19

that little slot in the back is also for games dumbass. kinda forgot about that didnt you smart guy

Regional?

I work at a Target in WA, USA and all of our UMD movies are still on display...

well...

I agree partly with post 32. It maybe should say 12GB, but you know, at that, at least 200MB would be left out. It is probably a prototype. I'm looking forward to it. 330 us dollars eh? Not bad, but considering a 30 or 60 GB ipod being 30 and 400 dollars, makes you wonder...

walkman

PSP - the new walkman... (remember this? :) ) it could have been if you could record UMDs yourself, after all "tapes" were available to all to record, mix and share music

99 cents bin please

99 cents bins here I come

UMD movies shouldnt of even came out

SONY *****ing wasted billions of dollars on UMD movies that would soon eventually die down. Now they have to *****ing waste millions of dollars. This *****ing PSP is gonna die just like the dreamcast. ***** this *****!

Target Employee

i work at target in the electronics section as well... and its true. No more UMD's in the stores. It's definite.

you ehm dee

I remember arguing with my Sony fanboy boss about movie UMDs and he kept on saying what a wonderful idea they were. That ******* moron.

sad but true

yep, i also work at that hell-hole you all know as target and they're all gone

download

we can all just odwnload movies and put em on our mem sticks.... or rip em from dvds, this is why UMD movies are so damn pointless...

12GB is fake

That 12GB Sandisk MS is fake. All flash memory has a size of 2^n. That is, they can only be 1, 2, 4, 8, 16, 32, 64, 128, 256, etc. 12GB just doesn't make sense.

LADRI!!!

why the umd movies don't sell anything? well, because here in Italy a UMD costs around 25€s... if it was 15€s, well, maybe...!

EXTINCT UMD VIDS

There was no point in releasing UMD Vids in the first place. you can buy the same DVD for usually a lower price. why watch it on a small screen where u can miss loads when u can hav it large!! i wouldnt EVER buy a umd movie. UMD VIDEO = TOTAL WASTE OF MONEY. why did they even bother also #1 +#2 - Lol nice comment

It's about time

Sony shouldn't be wasting UMD's to put movies on them....They should give us good games instead. My feeling is that they should focus on increasing the storage capacity of their UMD's and offer PS2 quality games on the PSP....

F**K SONY!!

Sony is so F****** stupid, they are making alot, and i mean ALOT of mistaked this time around. I really think that their dominance in the gaming industry is going to crumble in this next generation of gaming. Even the PS3, why the hell would you pay 600 bucks for a system? I REALLY would not be suprised if Blu-Ray flopped also, i mean they did try betamax, now umd, next i'm calling Blu-Ray. And espeically since the 500 dollar and 600 dollar PS3 systems are two completely different pieces of hardware. One not having the extra hdmi output and a couple less usb ports, what the hell is up with that?! At least microsoft game you the same system regardless of what package you bought and you could always upgrade it. Sorry to get off on a tangent but i am REALLY begining to LOATH sony. I hope that nintendo makes a comeback with its WII and microsoft gains the top with the 360, and i hope that sony just falls flat on their face. I'm regretting ever buying my damn psp, the games flat out suck on it, i wouldnt even waste the space on my memory stick to COPY the games for it let alone shell out 40-50 bucks for one. The only reason i'm keeping it is because of the homebrew. In my opinion that is the only thing the psp has going for it, and unfortunatly that is the one thing that sony is trying to prevent all together. I am never going to buy another sony product again. F**K SONY!!

Hmmm...

Sony should do what they should have done from the beginning, focus on the GAMES! This is primarily a games-machine, and they've wanted to do to much to soon. Get it up and running as a popular games-machine with LOTS of QUALITY titles. When the userbase is large enough, you can carefully start trying out other stuff like movies etc. and see how well it hits the users. As it is, they released a machine on the public who didn't know what to make of it. Is it a games-machine, a portable media player, a WLAN connection to your home entertainment system? Only thing that's for sure is that it's NOT homebrew-friendly, which is NEVER a plus! This is a prime example on how to ruin a great opportunity with too high ambitions - wanting to bite over too large a bit of the market. IMO of course... :)

#54

A fanboy strikes again...

UMD Movies

Sony seems to be on the ball about the poor sales of the UMD movies. Am i right in thinking they are setting up an i tunes for movies sometime soon? It would feature well with their new sales idea http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2006/07/13/sony_psp_memorystick_movies/ PSP hit on a good think with the pro duo, yet they have always been reliant on the UMD! Meh!

agree with 55

Sony needs to realise that the psp's homebrew capabilities can be used to their advantage. I came into the psp homebrew community around the release of 2.0ish and the release of the overflow.tiff exploit. i found out that you could use snes emulators on the psp. BECAUSE you could run homebrew was what made it so appealing and persuaded me buy one. but now sony is trying everything they can to put a stop to it when really they should be helping. Also, the UMDs were an experimental idea. Sony didnt know if it was going to fail or be a success. its hard to intorduce a new format to the community and have the public accept it. The UMD games would also sell more if sony didnt require a certain firware version to play it. :P

TRU Canada

I work for a Toys R Us in Ontario. By Christmas we will no longer be carrying or ordering any UMD movies. We've had sales on them over and over again, but they never sell. I can't actually remember the last one I've sold.

UMD movies are cheap here

UMD movies are cheap over here and in target there are so manny movies, evan some ive never heard of, also the music UMDs are pretty cheap, though UMD's are a pretty dead end media.

sony is going to flop

Holy crap 55# i couldn't agree more, i love nintendo but i don't mind microsoft, it would be kick ass if xbox360 kept going strong wii right behind with sony and rock *****ing bottom Sony being *****y is going to be the end of them

ps3 will flop because sony fan boys are poor

The ps3 will never succeed because sony fanboys are poor (atleast the ones i know) and i worked it out when the ps1 came out round the same time as the nintendo in Aus the n64 was 400$ and the ps1 250$ Back then me and my rich friends had n64, the poorer kids had either nothing or the piece of ***** ps1, then after that the rich kids either got the cube, or got the xbox the poorer scumier kids got the ps2. Now when the ps3 comes out the only people that want it cant afford it HA HA

So much for anti piracy...

Another example of how telling people what they can do with their products leads to low or no sales at all :P.

target no more umds

well the reason we pull the umd's at the target I worked at was because not only were they hardly being brought but we also had a problem with customers stealing them right off the shelves.

UMDs Too Expensive!

Price is definitely the cause of the downfall of UMD movies. Why would I pay more than I would for a DVD for something that's lower resolution, and less compatible? UMD movie makers; get your heads out of your arses.

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

This reminds me of Betamax movies lol , VHS kicked it's butt!

Yuuup

I went to target last week and all the UMD movies were gone

why do people HAVE to fill comment titles???

the fail of umd because.... cmon who the heck would spend so much on a frigging psp and then spend so much on UMDs when you could just get a cheap ass dvd player and bring high quality dvd with you? plus... dont yuo have to update to see some newer movies? the hell with updates we are 1.5 forever... i guess devhook came out too late to stop the demise of umd movies and # 6 is right, also # 5... ok so you have this new format, with everything new, the umd writers... and all the other crap... you get greedy... but #5 bucks is just TOO cheap, your not really paying for the UMD.. you mostly pay for the movie thats in it...

UMD's

I agree with everyone, the marketing idea is good but the prices are just to high. I'll admit I own a few umd movies. And I do watch them. They're good for when you're on the road or in a plane. I myself do a lot of traveling, My car or riding in a plane is quite common for me. Those movies come in real handy when I'm bored on the plane. They are entertaining for that purpose. I would buy more if the price came down.

This Artical is slightly confusing

Now, is this talking about ALL UMDs including games and movies? or just UMD movies? I asume the later, but i just want to clarify.

piracy piracy piracy

if most people wouldnt pirate it wouldnt be so much for a umd i mean think if we would just give sony a little money it would cause the trickle down theory(say ur dad got money hes going to give u some money cause he has some trickle down)i know sony is a big company but piracy right now is killing it and U DONT BITE THE HAND THAT FEEDS U

No in Store, Yes Online, UMD Movies?

It has been confirmed in multiple sources that the word came down from Target Headquarters to pull all shelf space for UMD movies. Seeing how Target had one of the largest UMD movie sections this is a major blow to Sony. As for pricing, I found that most UMD movies were the same price as DVDs in most Target stores so there really is no argument there. Personally, I bought a couple of movies in UMD format and found them to be incredibly inconvientent as a format to watch movies on. Man reason, holding the PSP. Even in the best of circumstances my hadn woudl cramp up holding the PSP still for so long and it made the movie watching unenjoyable. Also, the inability to send those movies to a normal TV is probably the real nail in the coffin here. Target says you can still buy UMD movies online through their website and I suspect GameFly and Netflixs will still rent the UMD format as long as Sony keeps producing it. UMD is much better suited to games but having a movie option is nice. I think this is a no win situation all around. Portable DVD players will kill this market for a long long time.

UMD's are still amazing

I realized that my local Target, in Westminster Maryland, no longer had UMD Movies. They haven't had any for the past two weeks and the last release was Underworld Evolution. I must say, it's a little disappointing, I enjoy picking up a few different movies every month. I know that everyone is whining about how UMD Videos are too much to carry around, cost too much and just aren't supported by other device readers, but seriously, they aren't marketing to you. They are marketing to individuals like me, who enjoy quality over quantity, so take a chill pill. Don't like the format, so what, don't buy it. Use whatever alternative you want and come up with something better(hence the PMP format for v1.5). We all have our fixes. Let's say you have a 4Gb pro duo, with an encoded video using PMP format on good quality, you can only fit 4 real movies in PMP. Although, most likely, you'll only have the time to pop one on, considering the time it takes to decrpyt, encode and than copy to such a format(this doesn't apply to everyone of course, because some of us have amazing systems, but many of us just don't have the best computers on the market). The UMD just works when you need something on the fly, where as memory stick media is for those of us who have time to wait. Consider the fact of you being a frequent flyer, do you have time to pop in a video to your laptop, encode, copy it over and than add it all to your PSP, not likely. Other propose using external sources to capture and store your content using NetServer technology or USBHost technology, but some of us just don't have access to the wireless world 24/7. It's mostly about convience. Also, consider the release of movies formatted for PSP via Sony's current Mem Stick quality playback. The highest possible video resolution is 320x240(unless hacked and Sony probably wont do that). It just seems like an unlikely alternative for people who enjoy quality. Also, if Sony releases movies via online distribution, piracy would consume the PSP video viewing world, it's already an issue, but with a digital copy of these movies, hacking would become commonplace and these movies would be found on every torrent and P2P network across the WWW. Just be mindful that the UMD Movie is still a great alternative and doesn't take up that precious memory stick space that we all have. The UMD provides the protection against some piracy while maintaining the best possible playback. You also get multiple audio levels, extra content and multiple language options, so it provides that little extra lacking in the homebrew video playback. Love don't hate folks! It's so much easier.

vary good idea

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