counter-strike is not even close to violence... they even used it in world cyber games and other international tourney, thus promoting violence? meh~

give me a fking break. im sick of this blame violent children on video games bullsht. the kid was obviously messed up, it wasnt the video games fault. jesus christ. Its also the parents fault for owning weapons.





and good luck banning violent video games. even viva pinata has violence in it for petes sake.

I have read somewhere that 95% of teenage boys report that they play video games. I'm also sure that most of them are fairly good in at least one game. So saying he was an avid Counter-Strike player means nothing. Look at this way:



95% of teens play games; he played games

5% of parents own a fully-stocked gun closet; so does his parents....



.......thinking............

*GASP* IT MUST BE THE VIDEO-GAMES!!!



P.S. About Germany banning Gears of War, a hundred bucks says the next game they'll ban is Call Of Duty: World at War. Why you ask? Guess.... No, it's not because the Nazi swatzikas are historically inaccurate.....

Videos games don't cause this, guns do.



It's also the parents fault for raising him stupid.

This is really sad. I read about this earlier and it truly is a tragedy, but why is it a game's fault. The only time I hear anything about video games these days is when they get bashed for promoting violence.



I don't see any reporters writing articles about how games like Little Big Planet promote creativity, sharing and community sharing. Oh well, guess something or somebody has to be the scapegoat.

The question is... What does world cyber games and violence have to do with each other?



the answer? very little. a violent video game, or not, is just that, a game. WCG does not base a game on violence or lack of... it bases it on a) fun/popularity... and b) ability to make use of some kind of skill... in this case, aim a virtual gun.



But saying it's "not even close to violence" is quite stupid. It's one person aiming a gun and shooting at another person (virtual or otherwise) considered violent?



The problem was never games, your poor defense is just making it look bad. Trying to claim it's not violent only proves to those idiots that gamers like you are "blinded" by the games you play.



I don't play CS... for one simple reason, and it's not because it's violent. It's just because I don't like it. I have played games that are considered more violent and games that aren't as violent.



Violence has been part of mankind for as long as mankind has been around... but just as there are those that blame violence for breeding violence, there are those that have enough sense and morals to know, just because it's around, doesn't mean they should commit it.

the gun which wasn't locked away, it were the "killergames" ...

And these idiots rule our country ...

ban school books!

I thought rap music was to blame

There's a difference between something being part of mankind and being good for mankind though. Slavery used to be part of many societies that now condemn the practice. I'm not arguing either side, but I am going to say that simply because something has always been a certain way (or has for a a substantial period) doesn't mean it's right. You are correct... mature and grown adults ought to have the sense to understand the difference between a game and real life, and know to not commit the violence that may be in video games. Should there be stricter laws for marketing violent games to children, who may not have fully developed or matured yet, kids who may not be able to distinguish right from wrong in these situations? That is the question.

the game has nothin to do with wat the guy just did...

its just the guy to be blamed, not the game!

People don't want to except that tomorrow even if there were no violent forms of entertainment another 17 year old could potentially do the same thing.



There will always be downtroden that's the way of our human nature. We define ourselves by away we struggle against life and against each other.

Success is often measured in how well you sh4t on all the other competition. Unfortunate as that is I think there are always going to be people who feel disinfranchised , jealous or ostrisised. The way this kid chose to express his rage just comes back to what tools he had available to him.

The best we can do as millions of individuals is not let people unravel to the extent that this kid did. All it probably would have taken was one person to befriend him and he might have turned this all around.



I say all this as a loaner who was bashed by a gang of people I would have called my friends earlier. The fact that I worked and couldn't hang out with them and the fact that I was a vegetarian gave them enough to ostrisise me. Had two guys come up behind me grab my legs and drag me face first through gravel. The difference is I fought back, after I'd shaken off the pain, I grabbed a hand full of large stones followed the two of them and called out to them when I got close enough. When they turned I threw one rock as a warning and said "run", one spoke up saying something like he wasn't chicken ***** like me. So I threw one at full strength at his head, it struck him in the temple. Blood gushed out and he ran at me I did few defense moves to block punches from him and struck back at his solar plexus and jaw. The other guy just stood there. They rejoined the other members of the gang later and walked up my street, I was waiting for them this time though, I'd loaded up my BB air rifle and taken up position in a hidden spot in trees in my front yard. As they got in firing range I let loose (trying not to aim for the head of course), after striking several of them they turned around and walked away. I was 14 at the time of this but felt I had no choice but to defend myself. In retrospect given the alternative weapons I could have used, (my father had an unlocked 22calibre rifle capable of firing acurately up to a mile away) I think I made the a better choice using non lethal force, still this doesn't sit well with me what I did. This was 20 years ago though and things are different now I would probably have been arrested for even using the air rifle.



I guess the point I'm trying to make is anyone is capable of ***** like this if pushed down hard enough.

Maybe he did it because he's German and it's simply in their blood. F'ing combat-boot wearers.