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TeamXtender Update

Posted Sep 18, 2005 at 12:59PM EST by QJ Staff

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Here’s a quote from the TeamXtender website:

As per expected, the announcement of PSP2TV has caused an uproar of feedback to us here at Team Xtender, whilst this feedback and support has been incredibly overwhelming there stills seems to be a few of you who are confused about the compatability of this product. Initialy PSP2TV was designed to work with only LCD, Plasma and HDTV type TV sets, however we have continuously poured masses of finance into the development of PSP2TV in order to make it compatible with ALL TV sets and as you can see from the pictures released earlier this week, the PSP2TV is now compatible with ALL TV types! Just one more time to make it clear, PSP2TV will work with ALL tv types and not limited just to those fancy ones. Now, we'd like to take this opportunity to clarify a few other misconceptions you may have about the PSP2TV, firstly the PSP2TV install is a breeze - we guarantee it will take you less than five minutes to do as all it involves is changing the PSP face
plate (which we supply) and using the docking station to enjoy your PSP on the big screen! It's a super simple solderless install and suitable for ALL gamers regardless of D.I.Y panache.

As you have just read, we will supply a PSP faceplate with the PSP2TV free of charge as this is of paramount importance to the installation of the product. Well guess what ? You guessed right! We will be offering the PSP faceplates in the future as a standalone product at a competitive price.

Moreover they will be available in a range of vibrant colours including our famous liquid crystal, ruby red and brilliant blue to name a few. We hope this update has put your mind at ease and confirms your intuition that this is a truly revolutionary product for the PSP. You can expect us to release more information and a video showing you the install procedure in the near future. Once again we'd like to thankyou all for your support and look forward to more of your kind comments.

We almost forgot to mention, some of you have been commenting that the pic showing PSP2TV connected up to the TV was fake previously, however this isn't the case at all - it just so happens that one of our dumb beta testers forgot to switch the aspect ratio on the device and the picture became a little distorted!



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# Guest 2005-09-17 20:28
Looks like trash I hope nobody buys this


wow so gay

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# Guest 2005-09-17 20:46
But hasn't someone said on the forum that a comcorder cable plugged into the headphone jack gives the same result only without the ps2 joypad port?

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# Guest 2005-09-17 22:29
If this were real.. then itd be a movie.. and there would be no doubt about its capabilities. instead we are shown some half assed screenie of a screenie. This is the typical "we did it first bull**** screenies".. which mean nothing unless it is true, and like i said, if it were.. itd be a movie and not some screenshot.

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# Guest 2005-09-17 22:34
I would have hoped that a first party like Sony could have released a periheperial that attaches to the USB port and outputs video. Understandably, it would require extra software to be installed on the PSP or perhaps a firmware upgrade, but that would be a far more elegant solution to butchering up a PSP and tapping into the LCD data bus which is what this product looks like its doing.

Sony's motivation for making such a product is that it's absolutely miserable to watch a UMD movie on such a (comparatively) small screen, even at arms length. If users could attach their PSP's video to a big screen then it would really boost the motivation for buying UMD videos besides the "hey that's kinda cool" factor.

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# Guest 2005-09-17 22:45
Why the need to open the device up? This is a tuner in device Sony have been toying with:
http://blogger.sahaskatta.com/2005/06/tv-tuner-4-psp.html
Essentially why not have the same thing with transmission capabilities. It wouldnt need to be strong, tune your TV in, and you are done? Better still you can do this with DTV signals to get crystal clear recption?

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# Guest 2005-09-17 23:03
Many devices such as laptops have an iternal bus video connector to the LCD which is just a pressure contact, or a small multi-pin socket - they may be using this. Open up a laptop to see what I mean (if you have the balls)
Dont think this is vapourware because you dont understand the technology.
I would think composite video would be fine for a resolution of 472x240 (or whatever) Dont expect a PSP to output 1080p for AU$399....

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# Guest 2005-09-17 23:53
I might get this, Tony Hawk's Underground 2 REMIX would be much better with a PS2 pad, for example. I don't really want to switch the faceplate, though.

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# Guest 2005-09-18 00:51
Sonic, you should seriously just not post if that is what you are going to post. You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. Straight out of your ass.

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# Guest 2005-09-18 00:59
guys why bash xtender?

these are the guys that made **** loads of third party products for ps2 and xbox sure they copy certain ideas but they just make them user friendly and slightly more advanced for example the pstwo ide hack would u rather solder 30 wires or 30 points? making fun of xtender would kinda be like making fun of xecuter...

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# Guest 2005-09-18 01:35
Doesn't replacing the faceplate void the Sony warranty? Sorry but with Sony's hardwre track record I tend to think that my warranty is more valuable than this product.

"it just so happens that one of our dumb beta testers forgot to switch the aspect ratio on the device and the picture became a little distorted!"

Talk about unprofessional! I'm sure that "dumb" beta tester wasn't the same person tasked with approving this picture for use in your press release. Another case of overzealous management. Way to go jackass.

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# Guest 2005-09-18 02:02
Naoneo is perfectly right and everybodyelse who says it's the same image is obviously wrong and stupid.

this whole thing sounds like a big joke to me.
how could you connect to the PSP's video chip and controls just by changing the faceplate?
the faceplate is just plastic, it has nothing to do with the electronics inside (which are well hidden behind the sceen and buttons)

and do I need to mention that changing the faceplate takes a little more than 5 minutes contrary to what they say? as you need to be very careful with the screen.
also their faceplate would certainly not be as high quality as sony's, and will certainly get scratched even easier.

for the lag, why wouldnt these super smart scientists grab a pic of the PSP showing a photo or a game in PAUSE instead of insulting our intelligence like this. the setup is obviously fake.

I could easily plug some sort of cables to my psp now and show it in front of my TV screen with both the same image showing and tell you all to donate or preoder.

guys, Lighten up, a serious company would never display its work in progress. this thing will certainly be a total crap or joke.

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# Guest 2005-09-18 02:52
Anyone know who much this beast is gonna run? I'm gonna guess, like, 49 USD? That would kickass.

Also, anyone know if they found any retailer to sell or if it's just gonna be from their site?

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# Guest 2005-09-18 03:46
UMD movies and mp4 are all mpeg format. i work in video production and i know that mpeg doesn't use pixel information it uses region info... so a blown up mpeg video will not look THAT bad when doubled (the psp's rez is about half of a normal tv)
i can't speak for the games though, they might look "blurry" as people keep saying.
there are many applications to this though. be optimistic.

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# Guest 2005-09-18 07:36
A lot of the comments here are ignorant. I'm looking forward to when Xtender release this product, just so all the idiots around can hit some level of realisation. As Sonic pointed out Xtender have made a lot of very good products, for most consoles and handhelds, yet many of you insist to come up with ideas without any form of justification. Xtender has explained the problem in one of many pictures, yet you dwell on this still? They have explained how it works and so on, yet you still disagree? Yet, none of you have had your hands on the product yet to make such claims. Refrain from making stupid comments, it's just going to get you into a worse and worse situation.

For all those who are now pointing out the small problems with it, go make your own device that requires no soldering, and has many great features... Then mass produce it... Then make every single picture PERFECT like you all seem to think you can do. Good luck is all I have to say.

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# Guest 2005-09-18 07:54
this looks pretty cool but i would never buy.

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# Guest 2005-09-18 09:53
For 1 single unit to test out it will cost 150 USD. Payed to our paypal
account: Mediashell@bell net.ca (only for media and resellers)

Please check with our official resller www.modchipworld.com. Product will be available in the middle of October.

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# Guest 2005-09-18 11:02
I love this idea, not just for putting the game on my TV but to use a PS2 controller with the dual analog stick. I miss not having the dual analog for some games, so even if there was some kind of attachment for a dual analog I would be happy.

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# Guest 2005-09-18 14:03
FIRST ****ERS!

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# Guest 2005-09-18 14:06
^^^J.K. - I hope the installation is as esay as they say...

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# Guest 2005-09-18 14:08
3rd biatch

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# Guest 2005-09-18 14:19
was wondering how this could possibly work as I looked closely at the pics released earlier and could see no physical interface to the psp video / display [ or controller ] , there was 1 pic which had a larger piece of 'black box' plastic at the bottom of the psp. I take it the 'faceplate' plays an important role here. still a bit confused as to how they get the ps2 controller to interface with the psp, i hope i dont have to invalidate my warranty or this product will flop spectacularly. Still want one.

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# Guest 2005-09-18 14:20
How inteligent it is to make a commment about the fact that you posted 1st, 2nd, or 3rd. Takes a lot of mental work, does it not? Wait, I will answer that for you, so you do not strain that puny brain of yours. No, it does not.

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# Guest 2005-09-18 14:27
stretched image is one thing, wrong frame is another, the image on the psp isnt the same as the one on the tv, check the back of her head :/

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# Guest 2005-09-18 14:35
I 2nd Naneo's observation. I had notice the same thing earlier. Also, even if they do have a working version of this thing, a single composite video output is kind of ghetto. At least use s-video, if not component as well.

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# Guest 2005-09-18 14:38
naneo... you're probably right, but it looks like it's just a product of that distortion.

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# Guest 2005-09-18 14:45
their product might stretch it a little and chop of side pixels to make it fit the TV. it all depends. im assuming by the back of her head u mean her hair since u cant see the back of her head.

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# Guest 2005-09-18 14:49
http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/415/psptv4yx.jpg
so distortion changes the position on her hair, even when the original is distorted to the same shape? lol

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# Guest 2005-09-18 14:50
Oh god, If I know Xtender then the face plate they supply to replace the stock one won't fit at all or it will fit very crappily.

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# Guest 2005-09-18 14:59
It doesn't matter what the resoluton, but COMPOSTE video always looks like crap. They need to at least offer S-VIDEO on this thing for it to be passable.

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# Guest 2005-09-18 15:05
in many cases video through wire can lag a frame or 2. ive noticed this when working for a major electronics store .. that not every tv was exactly on sync. they will differ about 1/2 a second or less. this more then likely is the reason for the different picture.

have faith .. stop being so objective

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# Guest 2005-09-18 15:07
I wonder if "all" means all NTSC or if PAL is in there too...

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# Guest 2005-09-18 15:08
This will be good for those with dead pixels!

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# Guest 2005-09-18 15:13
First off, the image on the TV is the same as the one on the PSP, the distortion makes the hair look as if it's in a different position, but if you look at the colors and details you'll see that it is the very same image.

As for using basic composite video, they claim that the adapter originally used HDTV and whatnot. It would have actually taken MORE development and a bigger interface to accomodate those types of displays than this composite one. Since when is it easier to produce HDTV than plain old composite?

As for those who still don't get it, you remove the faceplate of your PSP (VOIDING YOUR WARRANTY) and then slap this one in it's place. Somehow, the new faceplate taps into the video and controller ciruits of the PSP and then the faceplate routes those signals to the base unit which converts the video signal to the composite connectors and converts the PS2 controller signals to be usable by the PSP. If you look at the bottom of the new faceplate, you will notice a little extension piece. The back of this extension is a bus connector that connects to a bus on the baseplate. How this bus connects inside the PSP to access the video and controller signals is beyond me.

I would have figured that some further disassembly and possibly some soldering would be necessary. The team claims that it is just a matter of changing the faceplate. How then does it access the internal circuits of the PSP? I would think that you'd at least have to disconnect some internal ribbon cable or connector. A more horrible thought might be that the new faceplate somehow "cuts" or "punches" itself into the ribbon to gain access to the circuits.

I don't know enough about the PSP, but I do know about electronics, and it just doesn't seem possible to get this kind of functionality without doing more than just opening up the PSP and slapping on a new faceplate.

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# Guest 2005-09-18 15:30
http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/1078/teamxtender3bs.gif

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# Guest 2005-09-18 15:42
What if we dont wanna void our warranties and open it up juts 2 put on a faceplate that is sooo i portant. I thoguht this was gonna be so great and was exited, but if i have to change my faceplate...

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# Guest 2005-09-18 15:49
Why would a COMPANY (not some lamer kid on their parents dsl) known for releasing mod products in the past put out fake shots of a product that WILL be available to the public? Do you think their GC cases on their site are fake too? With your logic it's like saying "Oh, Microsoft released pics of the XBOX 360 connected to a TV and playing Project Gotham Racing 2, but it's probably fake since you can't buy it yet." Jesus Christ. Give it a rest. Your psix dash looks just as fake as anything. Until we see some better proof of your work we might as well chalk it up as 'fake as ****'.

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# Guest 2005-09-18 15:54
This is a bit of crap really. The character is clearly clipped and visuals (esp the hair) are substantially different - are these people really serious?

If these people were serious, they wouldnt release some doctored still image, theyd release a realtime movie playback on tv, otherwise this is an utter pointless waste of space.

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# Guest 2005-09-18 15:56
it's not very complicated to do.
every PSP at E3 was setup like this.
whether or not that image is perfectly in sync i don't really care. but you're just silly if you doubt that this is easily feasible.

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# Guest 2005-09-18 16:00
I want a see-through PSP faceplate.

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# Guest 2005-09-18 16:01
my issue isn't the validity of the image, it's their crappy explanation of why.
It would seem to me, more feasable that the image is different because there is some lag between the realtime video and the video actually being displayed, which is a major design flaw, imagine trying to play hotshots golf on that thing.

Besides, it's clearly not the same frame, and to be told "it's the same its just distorted" is patronising, especially when that's clearly untrue.

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# Guest 2005-09-18 16:11
http://www.dansansworld.com/fileupload/store/psp_funny.swf

FUnny Flash about how ****ing gay WAB is

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# Guest 2005-09-18 16:33
that wasnt funny?

it was retarded.

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# Guest 2005-09-18 16:41
Why bother with this? Do you really want to see something that was formated for the PSP screen on a 40 inch TV? The pixels would be all blown up and fuzzy...plus all the movies that you can watch on the PSP can be watched on the computer or on DVDs anyway...is this really going to be popular....maybey if you use DJPSP and show the "effects" on a TV

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# Guest 2005-09-18 16:43
I agree with mrhurtalot. That flash was retarded.

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# Guest 2005-09-18 16:50
I like most of team xtenders stuff but this just seems useless I mean why would someone go to all that trouble just to have the psp display on a tv. This is about as stupid as that gba player for the gamecube.

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# Guest 2005-09-18 16:53
maybe the lag issue will be fixed by the time it's released..
but yes, **** them for insulting our intelligence.

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# Guest 2005-09-18 17:05
It may not be useless to people who have UMD movies. I would rather buy Sin City on UMD than to have it use up all my space on a Memory Stick, but then that would put me in a spot over buying two copies - one DVD and one UMD. It really sucks that UMDs are more expensive than DVDs and this product is a viable way around this opportunistic snag by Sony (they could put out a product like this themselves but they want you to buy both versions). I guarantee you, if this works and sells well, more people will buy UMD movies.

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# Guest 2005-09-18 17:09
I DID not want to mention this, BUT, CAN you imagine playing GTA Liberty City (PSP EXCLUSIVE) on your PSP with this ???? playing it on the big screen with your friends, oh, so they can watch too ? yeah .

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# Guest 2005-09-18 17:14
This is just my opinion but I have never been into getting umd movies. I am not one to watch a movie on the small psp screen. yes it is a nice widescreen but I raher see the movie on my tv not a little screen but that's just me. Also has anyone considered that a game formated for the psp may not look good put on a larger tv?

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# Guest 2005-09-18 17:18
How can you doubt a company that has put out quality products before? And about the faceplate issue...try reading the other comments before posting your garbage doubts...while I myself don't know anything about electronic circuits, by reading the comments of those few people who *do* I was able to get an idea of how device might work.

Anyways, as someone said before though, I think Sony wili eventually come out with their own non-warranty voiding solution, perhaps with their next firmware update to allow you to play your PSP on your PS3 (that sounds reasonable, no?). As for blurriness...the PSP's resolution *is* more than half of a normal tv, so blurriness wouldn't be that bad. Correct me if I'm wrong, but it would be better than the PSX, wouldn't it?

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# Guest 2005-09-18 17:28
Anonymous, at 7:56 PM

I agree I went to E3 and played the demos they had funny the interface they had was alot less complicated and bulky I see Sony comming out with something like this in the near future that is 10x better and doe not require you to void the warrenty by removing the face plate and who know what else you need to do to connect the interface.

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# Guest 2005-09-18 17:31
if there is lag, that would also make the video lag behind the sound when watching UMD movies.. which would suck. And yes, the graphics would definitely not look as nice on a TV.. but crisp graphics aren't ALWAYS required for enjoyable gaming are they? sometimes you just want a bigger screen..

..lets just hope they fix the lag.

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# Guest 2005-09-18 17:34
Oh sure that's just what I want a blurry but big version of my PSP games. No thanks.

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# Guest 2005-09-18 17:55
Well since all UMD movies will be dumped onto the net anyway...I am never going to BUY one! And why watch a movie on the PSP when 1 movie kills the batteries? Easier to put them onto your laptop when travelling as an avi. Why have the quality messed up by putting them on the TV via the psp? if you really want to watch movies on the TV use a modded Xbox or something...having this device seems silly...cant you just access the PSP via the xbox anyway?

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# Guest 2005-09-18 17:55
hmm i cant see sony coming out with any video out devices for the psp, only possibly via the usb port, but that seems doubtful.

as for this mod i think it would be great if they pull it off but i have my doubts of a solderless solution after looking at internal pics of the psp

http://gullfoss2.fcc.gov/prod/oet/forms/blobs/retrieve.cgi?attachment_id=508670&native_or_pdf=pdf

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# Guest 2005-09-18 18:06
Don't this thing have a place to plug ia playstation 2 controller into thatmeans even more mucking around inside the psp just seems like too much trouble for very little results. As for the different color face plates why take your psp apart when you can just buy a vinyl skins I got one for 7 bucks and it looks great and is very durable.

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# Guest 2005-09-18 18:13
make one that we can use 2 controlers !!! to play multiplayer in one PSP

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# Guest 2005-09-18 18:15
Oh no TOAST, you mentioned downloading movies and having a modded XBOX now all the anti piracy fanboys are gonna be after you and whinning about killing the game and movie industry :)

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# Guest 2005-09-18 18:34
"make one that we can use 2 controlers !!! to play multiplayer in one PSP"

For goodness sake if its gonna have 2 controler ports and a tv out just buy a ps2 and be done with it. This just seems like a useless piece of plastic.

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# Guest 2005-09-18 19:22
Naneo: Ive looked very closely at the pics you posted and the one where you over lap the the one form the psp ontop of the one from the tv clearly shows its the same image, the problem is the saturation on the image. if you look on the right side of her haid you can see it as the image flicks back and forth. The hair isnt dissapearing its just getting more translucent.

For those people who supposedly know about electronics obviously dont !. They never said it was in HDTV quality they said it would connect to LCD and HDTV. HDTV is not a video standard but a standard of television. If you look on your own HD TV and you have a good quality one you will see a multi connector on the side much like an expanded USB connector. With HD and LCD you dont need an RF modulator and can simply tap into the R, G, B and V-Sync. simple really.

Team X have been in the scene a long long time all you kids out there less then 16 years old, i would suggest you keep your pre-teen negative comments to yourself as your full of it.

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# Guest 2005-09-18 19:35
true they never said that it would be hd quality but come on how good can it be to increase a picture designed for the small psp screen to a 42" or in my case 65" display and to add a controler port? that's just what I want to do carry around a ps2 controler with my psp plus the face plate looks like crap.

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# Guest 2005-09-18 19:40
This is the SAME image people. Psix boy can just shut his mouth. At least Team X is showing the actual product, and not just some photoshop pictures of a fictional operating system.

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# Guest 2005-09-18 19:41
I love the fact that anytime someone says something negative about something people assume they are kids or "less than 16" and don't know anything or "are full of it" everyone is entitled to their opinion even if everyone doesn't agree with it.

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