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Take-Two calls Manhunt 2 "fine piece of art"

Posted Jun 20, 2007 at 9:55PM EST by QJ Staff

Listed in: News, Titles, Opinions & Analysis Tags: ESRB, Rockstar Games, Take-Two Interactive
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Manhunt 2 - Image 1Despite getting banned in some European countries and earning an "Adults Only" rating in the U.S., Take-Two Interactive chairman Strauss Zelnick stated that all that Rockstar Games did with Manhunt 2 was make a horror game that "fits squarely within the horror genre" as it was intended to, and added that "it brings a unique, formerly unheard of cinematic quality to interactive entertainment, and is also a fine piece of art."

Wedbush Morgan analyst Michael Pachter wants to remind Strauss and Take-Two that "art" is not everything when it comes to making games.

This is one of the tasks ahead of new management, to rein in that creative talent and tell those guys we are in the business of making money and you should make games that will sell, not games that are artistically beautiful but not available at Wal-Mart.


Indeed, financial troubles may very well aggravate Take-Two's already precarious monetary standing. The company's revenue last year amounted to US$ 1 billion, and Manhunt 2 is expected to net about US$ 40 million, which will be cut in half should Manhunt 2 sustain its "Adults Only" rating. If it did get a "Mature" rating after they censor the game, then the revenue will be lessened to about US$ 35 billion.

An "Adults Only" rating will mean that most major retail stores will not have Manhunt 2 in their shelves, including Wal-Mart. ESRB said that the rating can be appealed or the game modified to earn a "Mature" rating. However, Rockstar did not release any statements whether it will do anything in regard to the rating the ESRB issued the game.

The speculation that video games cause violent behavior has not been proven, but the fact that it will hurt Manhunt 2's sales cannot be denied. Despite the supposed July 10 release date, both Sony and Nintendo have announced that they will not support the game if it will keep its newly-earned "AO" rating.



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# hitman?Guest 2007-06-20 23:42
is is just me or does that picture look alot like the artwork from hitman.......

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# So i can still buy it?Guest 2007-06-21 00:07
Thank God, for a while i thought lack of support meant cant play. but i think the first AO rated game is a good thing i might buy two just to have the first AO game sealed.

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# yupGuest 2007-06-21 00:47
Yeah I thought that.

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# ...Guest 2007-06-21 01:14
umm.. yeah it is hitman... pretty obvious, its just an image to display the games genre in a way.

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# ...Guest 2007-06-21 01:17
SCREW the rating, I WANT GOOOOOOOOOOOOOO RE, Manhunt 1 was coool, I loved it, it was a stealth horror genre wich had never seen before, and BTW, Manhunt does not have any kind of porn, it's only horror, idiot... , porn is on GTA and even there it only hints to that, it doesn't actually have anything that can count as REALLY porn, you people need to get out of your shells, it's only a game, it isn't real, I like violence in the games, I think it's cool, but would i do any of that to a person, ofc not, i'm not an idiot, the only time I'd be able to do that was if someone else threatned my life or anyone I loved, for wnjoying violence I couldn't, simply because I don't think killing a human being gives me any kind of pleasure, in games it does, in real life no, games don't make people suffer, I don't like to hurt people, ROCKSTAR rules, Hitman rules, bottomline, Screw the ratings.

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# so ....chaitanyak 2007-06-21 01:27
so... i can by it riight?



hmm



who gives a rats ass if some kid's parents won't buy it for him anyway. not me



plenty of people like me will buy it, just like plenty of people go watch the chainsaw masacre, jason, friday the thirteenth and other movies like that. if violent movies can make big bucks, whats so different about a violent game.

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# No Support?Dartan 2007-06-21 02:20
So what does this mean then?



.....both Sony and Nintendo have announced that they will not support the game if it will keep its newly-earned "AO" rating.



Is it just that they wont give it there "seal of approval" or will it not be playable on the console?



Did Sony actually remove the ability to play AO stuff from the PS2/PS3 ??



Sorry I haven't tried any "porn" in mine yet :-)

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# MS/Take2/Sony?Guest 2007-06-21 02:22
To clarify, both Sony & Nintendo do not allow the publishing of AO content on their consoles (this is company policy and not debatable).



If rockstar decides to leave their "Art" as-is this game will become an xbox360 exclusive (microsoft has no such policy and reviews on a title-by-title basis). As Microsoft is attempting very strongly to make friends with the big boys at Take2 i'd expect that they'd welcome the title with open arms.



If anything it should be interesting to see how this unfolds.

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# Nintendo says to Manhunt 2Guest 2007-06-21 02:27
Nintendo said it will not even license or allow playback of the controversial title with an AO rating

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# go to bed timmyGuest 2007-06-21 02:38
little timmy its your bed time. oh and fu_ck you

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# BANNED? NOW I HAVE TO GET THIS GAMEGuest 2007-06-21 03:06
WHERE CAN I FIND IT ON EBAY OR WHATEVA

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# Typo?Guest 2007-06-21 03:56
...Manhunt 2 is expected to net about US$ 40 MILLION, which will be cut in half should Manhunt 2 sustain its "Adults Only" rating. If it did get a "Mature" rating after they censor the game, then the revenue will be lessened to about US$ 35 BILLION.

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# ...Guest 2007-06-21 04:12
The best is going through these comments and seeing everyone with 5 stars who are against this game, lmao. Which means someone sat here and said, "You don't agree with my opinion that it should be banned!? SAD SMILEY FOR YOU" It's a game, grow up *****.

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# sGuest 2007-06-21 04:15
probly not because censoring the game will cost take two money.

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# youGuest 2007-06-21 04:22
email jack thompson and ask him. *****ing ***** JT



jackpeace@comca st.net



i hate this guy

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# lolGuest 2007-06-21 04:58
^^^^^ is that actually his email address?

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# Not a typoGuest 2007-06-21 05:24
They should expect to lose at least some money from the sales because it was formerly classified as an AO before they edited and censored stuff to get it down to an M rating. Just the fact that it got a preemptive AO rating will scare away some potential buyers.

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# jack thompson takes it in the buttGuest 2007-06-21 07:19
jack is a gay basstard and i hope hi bites his own toung off.

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# viva manhuntGuest 2007-06-21 07:46
go whine in a christian rockband with your granny,,



lets hope rockstar release an uncut version in europe and tones it down if needed for Us, or releases 2 versions so adults who want to can enjoy it,,



It sooo easy to post a screen shot of blood, or whine to media "OMG you know what you can do in that game "..just like back in mortal kombat days,, Manhunt is great and suspenseful, the killings arnt the focus of the player after a while but the story is,,,

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# free speech ftwGuest 2007-06-21 07:56
most games that feature over the top gore/violence, and that for whatever reasons get media attention are horrible,,(thri ll kill, postal etc)

mk2,gta and manhunt are rare exeptions of games i think are great, SMB3 and the old arcade Toki is my favorite games , no violence there :)



but controversy sells :) so hopefullly manhunt 2 will sell lot if they release 2 US versions or a toned down one..



if you want to fight violence fight the warprofiters and arms dealers instead then you can actually make a difference

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# ...Guest 2007-06-21 10:04
If the government did a better job looking after the people, they might not be mad enough to imitatr games like these

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# u is gay *****aGuest 2007-06-21 11:38
yukio dont you talk $$hit cause rockstar kicks more a$$$ than youcould never kick, you *****.I bet you take in the butt from Jack Thompson.

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# ftwGuest 2007-06-21 11:44
im pissed off at all this bulls--t rockstar should be able to make whatever the fanz want, they seem to be the only people actualy listining to the fans ,and all u haters can suk it.

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# ...Guest 2007-06-21 11:49
No, it's Christian death-cult culture and the slave God that fosters this kind of atrocity.



I'll take my whining to an anti-christian death metal band, which is a more appropriate and receptive forum of my criticism.

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# free wtzf?Guest 2007-06-21 11:51
u ppl give free speech a bad name lulz

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# ..Dodo 2007-06-21 12:32
Killing is art. Mankind has been doing it since the dawn of time. The greatest civilisations were created and destroyed by killing. People kill everyday, regardless of what anything thinks about it. Mankind is born to kill, you can't hide it or remove it.



So killing in a video game is an art when countless people in real world are killed for nothing, massmurdered, for oil, for God, or any excuse man can come up with.



But Jack Thompson doesn't complaint about those. He doesn't complaint about children watching dead people on tv everyday who had nothing to do with games. May be his children don't, because he wants to keep them in blissful ignorance. But people still kill each other anyway.



Jack Thompson should get his a$$ off the moral high horse.

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# ...Guest 2007-06-22 00:16
Not censoring the game will cost them even more.

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