Survey says: Xbox 360 gets the most love from devs in the consoles department |
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If you remember, SCEA executive Jack Tretton made a statement last E3 regarding Microsoft's methods of "currying favor from third party devs." Well, it certainly looks like this "currying" of Microsoft is clearly working for them, as a survey reveals that the Microsoft Xbox 360 is the platform that gets the most lovin' from platform developers.
The survey was conducted by the Game Developer Research, and had 2,000 respondents from the members of the videogame industry. The objective of the survey was essentially to determine which of the gaming platforms are the developers spending most of their time with. All of the participants were from North America, and they read Game Developer Magazine or gaming industry site Gamasutra.
The results are interesting, and here are the numbers (including cross-platform games):
Consoles
- Xbox 360 - 73%
- PS3 - 58%
- Wii - 42%
- PS2 - 15%
- DS - 75%
- PSP - 45%
- PC/Mac - 70%
When it comes to the handhelds categories, Nintendo's DS still reigns supreme by a far stretch from Sony's PSP, wtih 75% of the developers saying they are making games for it.
What do these numbers imply, then? Most certainly, not necessarily which console is better. It merely indicates the number of developers having projects on which platform. But as to the quality of the games being developed, or which console's library will be bigger, it is not determined by this survey.
If you want to check out for yourself the in-depth 180-page report of the survey, click on this link to get to the Game Developer Research website.
Related Articles:
- Sony: We have the better software line-up
- E3 2008: Microsoft currying favor from third party devs, says disappointed Tretton
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Devs already said themselves a while ago, they prefer developing for the 360 as the architecture was easier to work with than that of the ps3.
I mean just look at how much third party support the 360 gets over the PS3? Most third party games that you can find on the PS3, you can almost undoubtedly find them on the 360 as well, but there are some good third party games that are on the 360 but also coming out for the 360 which aren't on the PS3.
That isn't to say the PS3 isn't getting any. The PS3 is getting some exclusive games. It's just the 360 is getting more.
When it really comes down to it, while the PS3 isn't as good as the 360, it's pretty much the same system and really depends on which controller you like more.
-andrew- -kupomogli-
NORTH AMERICA. of course it's 360. geez.
hmmm..let's change that to JAPAN, or ASIA.
PS3 - 100%
Wii - 100%
Xbox 360 - 2%
Adding isn't your strong suit is it?
the poll isn't ps3 + 360 + wii + 100% you dumbass.
durr?
Honestly. The 360 was built to be the easiest console to develop for. Of everything that microsoft did, their development kit was by far the best. Developers have been raving over how easy the 360 (and the original xbox) have been to develop for.
The reason the PS3 had such a rocky start was the difficulty and expense involved in developing games, hence the PS3 continues to this day to get some pretty ass-*****ty ports of 360 games, while the immense power of the PS3 is left unused.
it ain't ps3 + 360 + wii equals 100%. i wonder why qj does not show the 'equal sigin' instead it shows +
My response stands. There is no way 100% of developers would focus on the PS3 or the Wii in the Asia Territory. There are still a solid handful of Asian houses that develop for the 360 first (for north american release) and port to the PS3 for the Japanese release. You're stupid ass numbers assume that Asian developers develop their games for sole consumption in the Asian territory, which is a gross fallacy.
It's not like he should be adding, but still pretty stupid nonetheless.
Roddollente. Regardless that the 360 doesn't sell as well in Japan as it does in the US, games are still released there contrary to popular belief. I can "almost" guarantee that even outside of the US or PAL territories, Japan probably still gets more 360 games than PS3 games.
Also. The Wii, just like in this poll type research, is the lesser of the systems that is actually having some games developed for it. You see games being announced, but not very many at all in comparison to the other consoles or the DS.
The PSP is the only one that doesn't have that many game announcments, though thankfully most of the games being released recently either have been or seem like they're going to be really good.
the 360 is better for games.... so....
C=(^_^Q)
yeah all the games suck what now?
This is about what devs want to make games on,
previous poster musthave thought it was sales.
The gaming market it bigger in NA n'ways.
Before, in the UK, we used to love everything by the Japanese devs, but recently they've been making games for the DS and Wii which aren't hard or even 'good' anymore.
And if you don't like the new games or the Xbox 360, go back in time, I'm sure there are thousands of good games you haven't played ;)
Oh it feels so good! Thank you devs for making the smart decision!
A few things:
1 - I love percentages that don't add up to 100!
2 - Who cares. Why does it matter what 'some' devs play when they're not making games? Honestly.
You could ask 2000 "celebrities" and get "percentages" that way and it would me just as little. Hell, poll 2000 Doctors, Hookers, Butchers, School Bus Drivers and Porn stars and get some percentages. I guarantee you! You'll be just as far ahead in life as you were without them.
Oh and BTW - 60% of all surveys are made up ;)
It's a Microsoft product and Microsoft has been successful at brainwashing the whole world into buying its ubur crap for years. Developers like crap, simple as that. They enjoy having issues, they like watching there users have issues, thats why they choose Microsoft for everything. Game developers love developing for the crappy Xbox (and 360), application developers love developing for the crappy Windows, and record companies love licensing their music for the crappy Zune.
obviously, that 100% is sarcasm. of course there is no way 100% of the devs will go for ps3. geez. the fact that you said that 'adding' isn't my strong suit shows your mistake. you thought all will equal to 100%.
while it is true that the 360 has more games, i doubt that in Japan/Asia it is the most concentrated console. i think it is the Wii, PS2, PS3, PSP, and DS. why? because (i think) the 360 is the only successful console that came from outside of Japan. there are TONS more Japanese games that you could ever imagine. it only sucks that we only have access to what North America releases, cause there are really good games from Japan, which weren't translated into English. Korea also has some good games, especially pc games. I just don't like the idea that people limit themselves to what they only know i.e. GTA 4, Assassin's Creed, etc. Some good games are Wangan Midnight, Initial D, Yakuza 3, etc. there are lots of RPG's, racing, etc. far far better than Need for Speed or something.
Bleach: Heat the Soul series for the PSP, anyone?
I hope you are using a mac... Because Linux-based operating systems was created originally by using M$ Windows.
wtf does easiest mean
they are the same "difficulty" just xbox is equal to a pc (not different from past gen)
ps3 does something new, just because they are unfamiliar with the cell architecture does not mean it is "harder" to develop for
seriously the devs are just being lazy soon enough they will be FORCED out of their comfort zone
uggh i apologize for my fanboyism if any i just hate *****s who claim to know jack ***** about technology
The 360 may be easier to make games with, but that's irrelevant in terms of which is the best console.
The PS3 is a different console than all others. Different game format, and not to mention developing something with better vid quality wouldn't be as easy.
Laziness is not good. Easier isn't always the better course.
Justin, your post is the definition of bitter. I've never met such a blunt individual.
It shows out of the same say 100 companies, how many of them are developing for each platform.
I agree, but you shouldn't forget that Microsoft is paying developers for making exclusives for their console and they pay other companies to bring their games to the Xbox 360 as well.
*cough cough* Final Fantasy XIII *cough cough*
Of course Sony is doing the same, but not in that huge way. Microsoft thinks that they can monopolize the gaming market just like they did it with the PC market: paying money to all devs and ruthlessly killing all other systems. Even if that means, we get in a console age where loud fans, high failure rate and almost no innovation are standard. I mean , compare the Xbox with the Xbox 360. Any big changes besides more graphic power and bigger hard drive? That's personally the reason why I don't want that the Xbox 360 wins this console race. Because we would stuck in the same situation for the next 50 years.
I'm not saying the games are bad, the console has some must-play titles like Gears of War, Mass Effect, Lost Odyssey or Blue Dragon and it has some great titles to look forward to. But the console itself shouldn't have come so far.
Then Death must love me! I've worked on projects and demos on all the systems. I know (not used to US slang) Jack (?) about technology.
The Wii is actually the easiest to develop for, and I'm actually quite surprised that given that, and the sales, that the Wii isn't on top of the list.
And the Cell is harder to work with. I've not been a programmer for a PS3 title yet but after working with some last year it's vastly more complex to get something to run properly on a PS3 than say an Xbox. Yes there are parallels to that and PC coding which is why you see many 360/PC games swapping over.
But you're wrong about the PC being past gen. Infact one might argue the Cell is past gen since it's based on a PPC architecture. Apple dropped PPC for x64 support because they are simply better chips with better support.
Imagine cars. The standard is petrol (but imagine it won't run out). What Sony are doing are taking an electric/hydrogen/steam engine and are trying to put it into the same car to get the same performance. Only it's needless because the previous engine was working fine and was more than powerful enough. I hope you understand it now.
Looking over Metacritic and Gamerankings... They seem to have more higher rated games than the PS3 or even Wii.
So by your logic if 360 games "suck" then that means the others are on life support.
Better vid quality? Pardon? I've yet to see this.
If you read my above post and did some research (talk to multiplatform devs, as in contact them) the PS3 has no performance increase over the 360. There are slight benefits to out of order processing and branch predicting but each system has benefits that the other does not. The PS3's problem is that you need to spend time to get to learn the Cell, and this is just for comparable results with the 360.
From a dev standpoint it amuses me to see that people really think the only reason the 360 looks better is because it's easier to code for, and therefore say the PS3 is more powerful because of this "potential". 2 years in, where's the potential? Emotion Engine anyone?
Oh and... Easier to develop games for + more games/more genres + more chance of a game being good + better. Although it's a lot more complex than that (the Cube was easiest last gen, and the Wii this gen).
I'd love them too...if they were paying my bills. Sony's moving towards in-house development...basically, slowly phasing out the OVERALL need for 3rd party involvement.
Let me say this. The PS3's rocky start came from Sony's focus being on the HD war. They took 6- 10 months of promoting and catching up from the system for that shiznit. The 360 would be the easiest choice because they had a year to become comfortable with that system. Then it didnt help Sony's case when they were promoting Blu-ray to death.
I doubt these figures are due to MS paying devs, but more about which development environment devs prefer to work with and the size of the user base.
You mention FFXIII, but I doubt MS paid for this, since there was no need. FFXIII was announced for the PS3 six months before the PS3 was launched, a time when no-one knew how well the console would sell. Then early last year, Square Enix said exclusivity for this game was still open for discussion. Therefore imo, SE were simply playing the waiting game. They waited to see how well each console was selling before making a final decision. If the PS3 had already caught up with (or even surpased) the 360's worldwide sales, I expect FFXIII would have remained a PS3 exclusive.
Finally, whatever happened to the XBox this gen is not a sign of things to come, just as the DRE problem on the PS2 last gen is not present in the PS3. Each gen is different. Next gen, it could be Sony's console with the most problems, or Nintendo's console, who knows.
The market was more in danger of being monopolized these last 2 gens by Sony with the incredible success of the Playstation and then PS2, so I'm really happy MS entered the market when they did, because it would be bad for ANYONE to monopolize the market. :)
that was some pretty obvious troll bait
Izuna: What you talking about "Because Linux-based operating systems was created originally by using M$ Windows."
Where did you hear this from?! Btw I dont wanna sound like 1 of those "know-it-all" people, but "Linux" was not -created originally by using M$ Windows- at all. "Linux" was developed using Unix (well i think it was MINIX) and so was the GNU Project... why would anybody use a proprietary operating system to create something that their goal is a complete contrast of? *pulls hair out*
Damn that's a huge margin! The developers should try harder to make PS3 games though. Although the X360 had its development tools out first, so, it makes sense at the same time why its easier.
I do have to say though, everyone harps on M$ for paying for everything, but you have to realize Sony has done that too. They even tried to actually buy Square Enix (Squaresoft at the time) out right, but Square said no and Sony had to settle for stock. EA had stock in Square too, but after the Enix and Square merge, they both lost their stocks. Sony also paid for Grand Theft Auto to be PS2 only for a year for each version.
Nintendo has done it with Resident Evil. So really no company can say they haven't paid for exclusives. Sure Microsoft has the most money to do so, but its still up to the developer if they want to or not. Microsoft has always had money, if they couldn't get Final Fantasy on the original Xbox with their money, what's the difference now? Multi-platform is the way to go these days. Personally there shouldn't be third-party exclusives any more unless it is paid for and funded wholly by Sony, Microsoft, or Nintendo. First-party exclusives should be the forefront and Sony really excels at that!
Debate good, and debate fine, but conflict keep to self.
If anyone is going to speak for their console, at least represent it with a little bit of intelligence.
I make no standing in this conflict, so everyone: Don't say something that makes us all wonder if you were consistantly dropped on your head as a baby. I mean no disrespect but do you realize that your "all the games suck, what now?" comment actually made the PS3 and its fanbase look bad?
Let the sony fan who isn't immature or filled with ignorance speak for your console.
Come on Sony fans, lay off, seriously. Is it that surprising to you that this is the truth? I'm for neither console, but you already know the 360 came out a year earlier than the other 2 consoles. Of course it has more third party developers. If the PS3 came out first, it would be the same thing.
I can't believe that everyone gets so damn emotional on this website for their console.
LET IT GO.
I really was trying to be as unbiased as possible, but I guess the " irrelevant in terms of which is the best console" got to the 360 fanboys
@Izuna: Yes, I am using a Mac actually.
@TheFirstGuitar Hero: Apparently you've never heard of Bill Gates then.
The truth is that the 360 sucks, plain and simple. I'm not a Sony fanboy (even though I do own a PS3 and PSP) but Microsoft has ALWAYS sucked. The best product the company has ever made in their entire history of existence is the original Xbox, but that's gone now. Now all we have to remember it by is a white brick with by far, the ugliest GUI in the history of ANYTHING!
Nin and Sony are moving AWAY from 3rd party help...you're taking the past and acting as if it depicts the future.
Now, feel free to write about how MS is staying in the current game with their glut of 1st party games.
but Justingraziano you need to chill man 360 does not suck....... it blows
lol jk couldnt help myself
360 is fine it can play hd games, it has fun games , why not play one
my OPINION (which i have the right to) is that there is no reason to buy an xbox atm. if you had one from launch (or even before ps3) thats great i understand why you bought it.
but currently i see no reason spend the xtra 100 bucks (wifi / live for one year covers it) and buy a ps3
you can do alot more with it and it can play games in hd / and it has fun games
plz dont put words in my mouth , in an attempt to make me look stupid
i NEVER said pc was last gen, what was meant by my post is that pc has remained the same. to use your example of the car
current cars run on petrol last approx 10 years (bear with my exaggeration here) it costs 100$ to fill up each week
goes 100 mph
hydrogen car (brand new technology) estimated life span 20 years , runs off water (free) , can currently go 100mph but with a few tweaks (ie. installing onto hard drive?) can reach speeds of 120 mph
you never get better if you always do the same
It looks to me like Nintendo should be paying developers to get ANY decent games they can get their hands on. Nintendo is too arrogant and concerned with hardware sales to do anything to make the game library better.
Microsoft is set, they don't need to pay anybody.
I think it would be nice to see maybe a little more 3rd-party support for Nintendo, with more outstanding 'hardcore' games (like No More Heroes and PES 2008 (which I mention due to the 'exclusive' control scheme, even though it's only 'semi-core')). Hopefully, The Conduit will be such a game.
However, I can't say the same for a lot of forthcoming games on Wii. If Brawl hadn't been released only recently (at least in the UK) I'd be slightly worried. I mean, I can't wait for Wii Music and Sports Resort, but apart from The Conduit and Ferrari Challenge, there aren't many other 3rd-party titles that tickle my pickle yet.
it's quality, baby, not quantity hehe