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Sony demanding US$ 188,000 in legal fees from Lik-Sang

Posted Oct 28, 2006 at 1:03AM EST by Mabie A.

Listed in: News Tags: Europe, Japan, lawsuits, Lik-Sang, SCEE, Sony

Just when we all thought Lik-Sang has hit rockbottom, here comes yet another blow to their already severely damaged company. After causing the online retail company to close down because of the multiple lawsuits filed against them, Sony is actually demanding the payment of Â£ 100,000 (US$ 188,000) in legal fees by November 1st.

This news stirred up mix reactions, with some people saying Sony deserves to get it, while some would say that there's just no sense kicking somebody when he's already down. Says Pascal Clarysse, Lik-Sang's marketing director, "Sony should be proud of having such a die-hard import gamers community rushing to buy their products and supporting them with a passion. Instead, they march all over us."

As for Lik-Sang's allegation that four of the top executives of Sony Europe actually got their own PSPs via Lik-Sang just a few days after the Japanese launch, well, it's just safe to surmise that was pretty embarrassing for them. However, Sony in Tokyo declined to comment on the issue, citing the reason that they have this no-comment policy on pending or completed legal action.

Ironic, though, is Sony's revision of shipment forecasts for PSP from 12 million units down to 9 million units supposedly because of a decline in demand for the handheld, just when they succeeded in closing down an unauthorized sales channel to patrons from Europe.

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the 500 ps3s will still be sold somewhere else. who cares if someone doesnt get their ps3? they got beat. its the same if 500 people went and beat them to it. if you really want a console, you preorder it. besides, if that was the issue here, sony could have forbidden ps3 imports. there will be other online sites importing ps3's.

# Dumbass — Guest 2006-10-28 04:59

^^You stink of retardation my friend.

# i think i get it... — RaiderX 2006-10-28 05:04

with the predicted downfall of sony, and their slow progression to nothing, they are trying to use any underhanded trick to get some money. blu-ray has a chance of failing, and the ps3 might not sell too well. so they are extremely desperate right now. it would be nice if nobody bought a ps3 and screwed sony over XD

# This is not Fair.. — cuizable 2006-10-28 05:08

Sony thinks losing some customers will not effect their glory,but think of Metallica,and their napster trials..What happened after that?Their fans trashed their original CD's,and it backfired..

This wasn't necessary,Sony dudes think everybody should buy the console and the games from their country..But the fact is nothing new is available..A game is released in Japan,and after months,it is released in Europe and USA..Also there are games which is Japan only..You can't have it even if you are Bill Gates,living in USA or EU..And if you import it,you are being illegal??

Come On..!!!

I live in Europe and I did not wait for my PSP to release in Europe,I bought it from Japan..

If Sony releases every product in every region at the same time,games included,nothin g like this would happen..

But I know this will never happen..

# Ths is funny — Guest 2006-10-28 05:16

I LAUGH AT LIK-SANG AND THERE DEMISE! HAHAHA THOSE BASTARDS HADE IT COMING TO THEM!!

# !Care Bear Count Down! — Guest 2006-10-28 05:19

And I still love my little black device that has MOHH's for bonus love!

!~GuuuuuuDAY~!

# .. — GaveUpTomorrow 2006-10-28 06:02

Why would I stop buying them when they still beat out every other company in games?

# movies failed — Guest 2006-10-28 06:02

there probibly trying to blame importers for the failure of there umd movie sales.

But really there was just no reason to buy them at the full cost they wanted. Sony would have just had so much better a chance to sell them if there psp had been able to output videos to tv's.

# ha — Guest 2006-10-28 06:11

hey you gotta understand sony is looking at things in dollars and cents... i dont care what none of you guys said if you were in sony's position you'd do the same thing!

# Sonywars Battlefront — axelixc 2006-10-28 06:22

Sony Vs Xbox.........Sony Vs Nintendo........Sony Vs Booster.........Sony Vs Lik Sang.............what's next.....? Fan Vs Sony ? I guess it's happening now.

# Aww... That sucks. — Guest 2006-10-28 06:41

Sone is just biting themselves in the leg. Lik-Sang was one of the biggest providers/importers there is.

There's one thing left. That is, to boycott Sony.

# . — Guest 2006-10-28 06:47

sony is trying to show the world whos boss after all of the negatism and lawsuits theyve been getting lately.

# yea......BUT — Guest 2006-10-28 07:02

consumers are dumb you f*ckin idiot

# The end. — igasagu 2006-10-28 07:04

Thus ends another chapter in history. We lost the best import site on the internet.. This action has sealed Sony's fate. Everyone is going to boycott them, the PSP has already failed, and the PS3 will do even worse. Sony had its great moments, but in the last few years, Sony has hit rock bottom. They're acting worse then Microsoft ever has. Good bye Sony, we loved the ps1 and the ps2... For they were the greatest consoles ever made, and it will be hard to top their success.

# Its greed!!! — Guest 2006-10-28 07:08

This is so wrong, its all about greed. Maybe Lik-Sang may be able to counter sue sony for loss of earnings, make peace not war

# monopoly — Guest 2006-10-28 07:19

isnt this some sort of monopoly sony is pulling it seems there trying to control the gaming industry.

# How to lose your customer base in several easy steps... — Guest 2006-10-28 07:27

This news is just the latest in a long line of decisions from Sony that have led me to the conclusion I can no longer support them by buying their products, whether they be games consoles, TVs, DVDs or Walkmans. I will keep my much loved PSP, PS1 and PS2, but they can whistle for my hard-earned cash in future.

I never used Lik-Sang, but seeing as how they were effectively generating and feeding support for Sony's products, (such as the PSP) for those who couldn't get their hands on the product, (i.e. us poor suckers in Europe who are line in line for everything, and always have to pay the most for it), I thought they were doing a good job.

Sony's actions in killing Lik-Sang are reprehensible, and that means myself, (and many others I'd imagine), feel they can no longer feed the faceless, profiteering entity that Sony has become.

# Its the new guy — Guest 2006-10-28 08:11

its the new amercican guy that the japs made him the leader, when he wasnt up there, did sony do that, well i dont think so, its that dam howard guy or watever the name is

# Howard Stringer — Guest 2006-10-28 08:15

I believe hes Welsh

# Nope — Guest 2006-10-28 08:36

Our united kingdom only smelt in the middle ages when people threw their excrement out of windows. UK RULES!!!

# die sony die — Guest 2006-10-28 08:37

sony seem to think that because there on top they dont have to care about the customers i say its time they all died

# no... — Guest 2006-10-28 08:40

I think its stone, not turnip.

# oooooooooooh yeah — Guest 2006-10-28 08:55

@axelixc

I second that. Sony VS Fans. Let's get it started!!!

# Hope 188,000 is worth the amount STUPID SONY~!!! — Guest 2006-10-28 09:01

I hope that amount of money is worth it in the long run for you dumb C.E.O's of sony. You took down a company that bought your own product and sold it for you. Keep doing these kind of things to your customers and keep thinking they'll all come back like dogs. Fu-cK Y-oU SONY~!!!

# .. — Guest 2006-10-28 10:27

I dont think it was the grey imports that bothered sony but rather the fact that lik-sang were advertising 1.5 psp's. imagine a high street retailer advertising a hacked ps2 - i mean how angry would you be. its the same with the 1.5's , the only reason anyone would advertise it as a 1.5 is that you could use it to run pirated games .

They went a few steps too far and now they are complaining because they got called on it. too bad. shoulda stayed within bounds.

# .. — Guest 2006-10-28 10:30

hahahahahhahaha hahahahahahahah ahhahaha hahahahahhahaha turnip ahahahahhahahaa ahahahahaha

# Sony has unlimted funds and lawyers — Guest 2006-10-28 10:37

of course they are going to beat anyone they go after who doesn't have billions of dollars. I personally don't see the harm in importing games and systems to people who really want to overpay for games they may not understand or work correctly for their TV/system/etc..

I used to import Megadrive games for the Genesis. The companies still get their money one way or another.

# HAHA — Guest 2006-10-28 10:41

sony must really need the money if they really want $188,000 ... this is rediculous

# sue sony?! — Guest 2006-10-28 10:49

Hey I got an idea, how about we take sony to court for those adverts they had for the black and white psp? The one with the women.

# $188,000??? — califrag 2006-10-28 11:09

$188,000?? $ony is cheap.. that's like.. the cost of 752 PSPs.. how many of $ony's beloved psp has lik-sang sold for $ony's profit? thousands... damn greedy bastards. rot in hell $ony for not caring about your consumers or retailers.

http://www.petitiononline.com/liksang8/petition.html

sign the petition. save free trade!

# Enough already — akuma2099 2006-10-28 11:55

Every time I go to a game website I see something about Lik-Sang. Before you say just avoid it how can you avoid it when it is on all the sites I go to.

Anyway wow this is a surprise the losers of a lawsuit have to pay court cost. Gees that's never happened before. The thing is that 1) Lik-sang was asked to stop selling PSPs to Europe early and they choose to ignore it and look what happened. If they had just stopped selling them until the release date in Europe then all would have been OK and they would still be around.

Also everyone says we need to write Sony letters on sign an online petition. Has that stuff ever worked? I can't think of one time when an online petition has ever done anything. Plus people keep saying that they are going to boycott Sony and not buy a PS3. Fine I don't think a few little Internet crybabies not getting a PS3 will really hurt Sony at all. So they may loose the sell of 500 PS3s ooh that's bad. The people that say this either 1) couldn't afford one anyway or 2) are just saying this to sound cool. If you hate Sony so much why are you on a site that is dedicated to one of their products? Also before you call me a fanboy which seems to be the standard comment if someone disagrees with someone on this issue. I have a 360 and will get a Wii and a PS3 when they come out so who's side am I on now?

Lastly you can flame me of call me gay or a noob or whatever the standard comeback. As the insults of random Internet people that I don't know or will never see do not matter in the least to me.

*P.S. Make sure you check my spelling and grammar because I would hate to misspell something or forget an apostrophe in the comments section of a gaming website, oh the shame.*

# erm — Guest 2006-10-28 12:18

currently living in japan, you may actually find its the other way round :-p

# SONY SUCKS — Guest 2006-10-28 12:22

I think sony needs to go suck there damn moms ***** they are nothing but a bunch of mother *****in damn dumbass bastereds.

# What the hell Sony? — pauridius 2006-10-28 13:15

That's not cool, god damn.

# That Sucks — CHUCKINGROCKSATSPACESHIPS 2006-10-28 14:03

Even Lik-Sang's emblem looks like the PS1 controller too.

# dfgdfg — Guest 2006-10-28 14:22

lol stick it to them Sony!

# The best way to show your dissatisfaction — Guest 2006-10-28 14:37

Everyone should sell PSPs with 1.5 or 2.71 SE-B firmware on Ebay and offer to ship worldwide. Never ship to Nigeria as they are all scams! Sony won't be able to sue everybody. Getting the most homebrew compatible PSPs into Europeans' hands will piss off $ony! Plus you can make lots of money!

# $ony's getting desperate — Guest 2006-10-28 14:44

$ony would try something like that, and an irrational moron fanboy would suggest it. Also, when has Microsoft sued a company out of existence?

# Laptop Batteries — Guest 2006-10-28 15:02

Maybe Sony is just looking for ways to regain those lost profit from the battery recalls... hehheeh

# You guys seriously need to get out more... — Vipre77 2006-10-28 16:11

Stone... Turnip... They're both correct. I suggest you do some reading and quit pretending to have any semblance of intelligence.

# Oh, and while I'm at it... — Vipre77 2006-10-28 16:16

Sinjinn's a cool name. Stringfellow was cooler though. ;)

# Sony — Guest 2006-10-28 16:59

Sony needs to go suck a *****.

# sony is the crimson zombie that just wont die — Guest 2006-10-28 19:41

fony really needs to get their priorities straight. i like how they try in a last ditch effort to get money from a company that essentially over the years they were getting money/sales from anyway, after they ripped em a new poop chute. then they want to charge me $600 for a video game console. xbox cost microsoft about $500 at production when it came out, price tag was 299.99. i dont have that much respect for micro$oft either, but that was a ballsy move. put out a system thats pretty damn good, lose a couple hundred on each sale, and as long as the product has a strong customer base, good 3rd party games, and a company behind it thats not afraid to lose a buck and gain a customer instead. thats the kind of thinking that sony has to do. its not all about the money. if gta taught us anything, its that RESPECT IS EVERYTHING! Dont respect your customers, and eventually they will find an alternative. of course theres the junkies (FF, MGS, etc addicts) that will be loyal till sony croaks, but there are priorities in life and as enticing as the money is, sony has to set a few priorities straight. its not like they were selling black market psps without serial numbers for under cost, sony got what they wanted. a console sale is nothing, its the games that sell the system and if sonys pissed about sales then they should just release gran turismo mobile alf*****cingrea dy!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!

# Sony's not the only that sued them — Whyser 2006-10-28 23:19

Nintendo wins Lik-sang piracy case

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2003/06/19/nintendo_wins_liksang_piracy_case/

I know Sony's made their name look bad, and it seems like whatever they do, they usually end up making themselves look more stupid... starting with the prerendered videos at E3 2005, then the so called copying of the wii-mote's gyrosopic capabilities, to the various conceited or idiotic remarks, the fact sheet, and now the suing of lik-sang.

But this isn't the first time Lik-sang has been sued, and it hasn't always been by sony. since everyone seems to keen on seeing sony fail, anything they do is looked down upon.

Nintendo and Microsoft has sued Lik-sang before too... and Liksang has shut down before, but it looks like if any of these companies do it, everyone will see justification in it.

Honestly if Sony leaves the videogame scene, I'll probably be even more sad than seeing an import site like Lik-sang die.

# Dont get it. — Guest 2006-10-29 01:44

I dont understand what SoNy is thinking.....

Why sue a Company thats Promoting there products!

If i was a company I would let some Piratesie Pass.. In order to help promoting....But there is always a LINE!

But Liksang wasnt CROSSING THAT LINE!

And sony is wondering why they fail in COnsoles :\

WHAT WRONG WITH YOU SONY!!!! WAKE UP GODDAMMED!!!!!

# Microsoft , Nintendo and Sony have all sued LIKSANG — Guest 2006-10-29 02:23

Microsoft sued Lik-Sang, and Lik-Sang closed down

Nintendo sued Lik-Sang and Lik-Sang closed down

Sony sued Lik-Sang and Lik-Sang closed down

See the pattern, every time Lik-Sang close down they dont have to pay any legal fees. and then they just reregister the company and start trading again. Eveyone has sued them and everytime they close down and blame the plaintif.

# Im sick and tired of sony now. — Guest 2006-10-29 08:08

With news of sony going after the little companies that sell their crap, this is the last straw for me. Im sick and tired of sony selling shoddy crap, and expecting everyone to buy it just because of the sony game. I hope to hell that sony corp soon crumbles. Today, I state that I will never again buy another crappy sony product!

For example of their crappy merchandise read this

My sony video recorder had chips in it, I returned it for yet another camera, only this time the thing didnt even work. Sony PSP's haveing multiple dead pixels and sony doing nothing. Now lets look at nintendo. If you had even one dead pixel, you could call up nintendo, they send you a new DS, and when you get the ds you send send back your old one. For free! Put sony next to any company and they will look like the devil itself!

# PWNT — Guest 2006-10-30 10:26

LOL look at all of you rednecks. You have no sense of business...and that's why you jump boats whenever the little man gets belittled. LOL. Try learning and you'll find out that in order to stay on top, you have to make choices. The CHOICES may be controversial to some...but eventually, you'll win. Microsoft anyone? After years of lawsuits, hackers, etc., over 50% of the world is running their computers on Windows XP. Case in point, PWNT.

LOL don't be foolish and claim that Sony is doomed...the same thing was said when the PS2 came out. Aww yes, victory is near.

# Re: Enough already — Guest 2006-11-06 10:20

You ought to take a look at how many people have said they'll boycott Sony - not just after the Lik-Sang episode, but over the course of the last few months. Sony's actions in recent times are causing many previously loyal consumers to consider whether this is still a company they want to continue supporting.

Before you call me a fanboy, I'd just like to point out that I own a number of generations of console, and Microsoft, Nintendo and Sony equipment already.

I think it is a cumulative thing - from my own (European) point of view, consider the following:

- No European release of PS3 until 2007,

- PSP released in Europe almost a year after other territories,

- Lik-Sang forced out of business, meaning one major route for Sony fans to get their hands on PSP / PS3 now unavailable,

- Sony trying to force Blu-Ray on everyone, regardless of the fact the market appears to be indifferent. (Many are reluctant to consider replacing their growing DVD collection so soon after having to replace their VHS collections),

- By the time PS3 gets to Europe, the likelihood is that it will cost significantly more than other territories,

- Xbox 360 is available, has a software base of increasing strength and is reasonably priced,

- Nintendo Wii is imminent, will also be reasonably priced, and looks set to innovate.

These are just a few of the factors in my mind, and despite Sony's apparent lessaiz-faire attitude to Europe, I think a great many Europeans will have had enough of them. Whether this market represents a small proportion of their profits or not, I'd imagine Nintendo and Microsoft will be pleased to take customers off their hands.

Sony would do very well to think long and hard about this.

# PS3 selling out — Guest 2006-11-06 10:27

Sorry to burst your bubble, but its not going to be too difficult selling 400,000 consoles worldwide.

Try thinking before you type you idiot.

# PS3 won't rock quite a number of nations - namely all those in Europe — Guest 2006-11-06 10:31

Maybe a lot of the cry babies in here were going to buy a PS3 and see this forum as a means of expressing why they've changed their minds.

What are cocaroaches anyway?

# F**CKING SONY — zaniar 2006-11-10 08:17

for a wile i was trying to tell people to stop being so anti sony cause afterall they are the most amazing game software producers but now their getting into the problems of stopping people from taking advantage of the psp. this is so stupid

# IDIOTS — Guest 2006-11-11 04:39

You're all a bunch of idiotic kids writing whatever you want just because you think so...

Lik sang's business was clear and legal, if any of you morrons go get a good look on any world country laws you'll see that is not illegal to import or export any kind of product as long as it respects copyright and you pay a customs fee that will go straight too the government pocket. Sony even if they wanted can and will never succeed in prevent their product exportation to places where they where not released just because the country from it is originally shipped as world commerce and trading rules that go well over sony's reach.

If you're still in doubth go ask your daddy about world commerce and how you translate it so you can figure it all out, and then make a real usefull comment...

*****s.......

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