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Bad, bad, bad news for PSP owners who are still thinking about getting the PSP Go. If you take the plunge and do buy one, you better hold on to your UMD drive-equipped PSP. That UMD goodwill program that Sony hoped to put in place has apparently been nixed.
"We were evaluating a UMD conversion program, but due to legal and technical reasons we will not be offering the program at this time," a Sony Computer Entertainment of America spokesman told gaming blog Kotaku.
While the "at this time" remark still offers a glimmer of hope, I imagine that this will be a huge addition to the "Con" side of the table for those who already have sizable UMD collections. Those whose first PSP system will be the Go won't be too affected, I think.
Gamers in Europe have it a bit easier, though, thanks to the free games Sony is offering over there to those who upgrade to the Go. So far that particular rewards program has only been confirmed for territories under SCEE.
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That's really going to make some people mad. Sony's biggest problem is that they're too open with their concepts. Too often they reveal things that may or may not ever see the light of day. Hence why people were disappointed with the final specs on the PS3 after they removed item after item. They need to stick with announcing and commenting only on things that are 100% destined to be a reality.
Short of you mailing in your UMDs to them, there would have been no way of preventing people of getting multiple downloads from one disc.
Just won't give up my three thousand!
Sony is really smart...
Not
why not do the mail in service....... rip it legally take out the UMD disc from the white original case and put the disc in a different color indicating that its bee ripped already
maybe it will require that once in a while you must confirm the rip so you can't just buy or rent an umd and after return back...
Even without the legal problems Sony Was never going to do this, people swapping umd's for downloads don't make Sony any money so it's all got air Sony saying they considering it, but i'd think some developers would like this idea because it gets used umd's off the market and forces people to buy new or digital.
Each disc has a unique serial number (I think) which can be checked against a database.
i figured this would happen
this was a smart idea from the start but sony shuns smart and is open for "money-making" ideas
yea i give up on portable gaming no one tries anymore its not about the customers anymore. Ill probably pick up an itouch and load it with games really hate apple but some of those mini games are fun. I will come back if sony gets its act together or microsoft comes out with a portable system. Damn i hate apple.... fudge.....whatever ill get cydia on it then get alot of games for it, i have 50 umd's by the way all purchased and i was number 87 when it first came out.
Each disc has a unique serial number that's different than the serial number on other games. But, the serial number for every disc of the same game is the same. So you could get the DL code and then give the disc to your friend to get the code and they wouldn't know the difference.
PSP-1000 = Best PSP.
and Sony not loose money on it from multiple people getting the DL from one UMD is to mail it in. And like @symbal pointed out, they would make no money from that so why put the time and resources into doing it.
A company only willing to do something that will make them money. You know what happens to companies that do things that don't make money? They go out of business!
The original 60g ps3 is the best ps3, and the psp 1000 is the best psp.
Maybe Sony should get a new team to work on the "upgrades" to their systems.
Manipulation of any system they put it would still probably be less of am impact then the business they lose from people lending/trading games.
Lots of people don't know that it's against the EULA to lend out games you own as well as having a audience while you play them. There is many solutions they could have done but nothing that would not have a way to be abused anyway.
I am assuming the PSP Go will get hacked apart pretty quick on launch.
those bastards! entice us to buy the psp go with the umd conversion, and then tell us on the last second that its a no-go.
if sony could get pull in existing psp owners their future purchases will be made on psn. software is where the money be
You mean the PSP with the worst dpad (to recessed for its own good), horrible display ghosting. Yea... The best PSP hahah.
I'll stick with the PSP-2000. People complain about the frame but good god people; take care of it!
I knew this program would never work. What did everyone expect to send your umd's to sony and get a voucher code to download a game that 9/10 isn't available for download at the time? Or what about this make a USB UMD Drive and be a able to rip games the games and covert it with a special program!... lol yea right sony would loose way to money with a program like this.
It's not much different than CDs or DVDs being ripped and put on iPods... well, except that Apple is actually enlightened enough to let the customer do it because they know even though some may take advantage of the situation and pirate, in the long term it means much better market penetration and sales in the long term.
That's the problem with Sony. they still think there is some way to prevent all piracy and they're willing to screw a zillion paying customers to make sure not a single illegitimate copy gets made.
It's a perfect example of being penny-wise, pound-foolish.
You have a device capable of ripping a UMD. Sony would just have to provide an App. The only problem is Sony is terrified of even a small amount of piracy which is why they have repeatedly tried to lock down the firmware, etc.
Remember this is Sony, the company that was willing to freaking *ROOT KIT* a PC just to keep people from legitimately copying a Celine Dion CD.
they could just come up with an external umd reader that can clamp up to the psp go...they'd make money off the reader while to some extent pleasing people still owning umd games...
People should just forget the idea of an external umd reader to dump roms, Sony has managed to piss people off at every step with Psp go and done damage to it's reputation before the thing's even released, but the Psp go is there to get people used to digital only hoping people will be more willing to accept in future.
Don't want one? Don't get one!
But don't come on here whining about how much cheaper the downloadable version of the games are inevitably going to be, compared to the UMDs.
It has already been stated,that the "umd" versions and the "downloadable" versions will cost the same price.Yet...Plus on the extra side u get so "special items"...just a game with no box,no manual,no items "What A Fair Trade That Is "Sigh"...(Sarcasm).
I love Sony. I love their products. I love Video Games and own nearly every system out there (since Atarti 2600) due to the fact. Sony is known for not standing behind their products. look at the psp 1000. they admittedly dropped the ball on that while ramping up efforts for the ps3. When will they get it straight and just support the device they have. its like holding water in you hand. it slowly seeps through your fingers when you think you have something. When you realize you dont the waters gone. sony's support = water.
Even assuming you got the European incentive, picking 3 old games which can run on CFW anyway isn't going to tear anyone away from their existing console.
Sony don't get it. We like the idea of a digital device (which is why many of us play on memory sticks) but we want the ability to port the games we've paid for to the Go before we can upgrade.
This will clearly never happen. Now less than 1 week before launch and Sony have given none of us any straight answers to our questions, just a load of robotic marketing-speak which patronisingly claims they're acting on what we, their loyal customer base, have asked for.
Judging by forums across the internet, that's self-evidently not the case, and I hope it bites Sony hard in the ass on launch day when they're stuck with several hundred warehouses full of these things. They'll be warming shelves until the PSP2 comes along.
It could have been great, but Sony's loss of touch with reality and common sense has doomed them to failure.
That's exactly what i think.. Sony had it so easy with Ps1 and Ps2 because gamers where just so ready for those consoles, and all they really had to do was sit back and watch developers make games and rake in the profits, now they have genuine competition from Nintendo and Microsoft and they just have no clue how to make the most of it's hardware and that's why they in the state they in now, they had 14 years in the industry so deserve all the criticism they get.
I doubt any version will ever be cheaper than buying media (UMD/Bluray/whatever) in Asian countries. Genuine stuff is less than half the price of other markets.
You are wrong.
http://games.slashdot.org/story/09/09/25/1727220/Why-Games-Cost-60
"When asked about the next step up to $70 or $80, Hal Halpin (president and founder of the Entertainment Consumers Association) says, 'I'm not sure that we'll see a standard $70 price point at all. To my mind, emerging technologies, subscriptions and episodic and downloadable content should all enable price drops %u2014 increasing accessibility to a much wider audience.'"
It's a toss up between the PSP 1000 and 2000.
I guess psp go owners have to wait until a custom firmware comes out. Just replace the battery with a pandora and... Oh wait, no replaceable battery!
Yeah this PSP sucks
digital downloads blow
non transferable games with no physical media, instructions, SAME price?
No thanks, UMD is fine.
if you buy a crappy game, or the game that lasts for just a few hours, you can try the following:
- complain at the shop to get your money back
- sell it off to someone else
does the first apply to digitally downloaded games? i bet the second does not.
trading games is considered equally bad as piracy from developers point of view. that is why they came up with those digital downloads thing.
i prefer my games on physical disk, where they (hopefully) won't be susceptible to account lock/expiration date.
Sony's apparently planning a digital rental service so you can try before you buy and not worry so much about throwing money away on crappy games, and i can pretty much guarantee Sony won't offer any kind of refund if you don't like games.
I completely agree with you. I think if sony quit this war on pirates and just started making more hardware then they'd fare a lot better. they're trying to control a software market that has never been on a leash since it was invented.
You have to admit (regardless of your opinions), that Apple has a good marketing strategy. They tweak one little thing on a model and sell it as a whole new line of hardware and raise the price up a hundred bucks. People always want the biggest and best so they shell out for it, but not when it comes to software. Software should be used to sell hardware, not the other way around.
I Was talking about psn games man u got all off subject about it.
*Laughs Hysterically*
The Sony that made game publishers remove HDD functionality from PS@ games prior to the release of the hardware, pulled this exact same stunt with the "Multi Media Functions" on the HDD. And mack then I thought that one was the first, didn't even know about the Pocketstation at the time. Don't even get me started on rootkits.
Now of corse the next guy will probably say something like "You stoopid Sony H8ing liar" but Keep in mind Nintendo literally GAVE Sony most of it's third party support when they made the Nintendo 64 a cartridge system. Microsoft hasn't been the game long enough to have screwed up yet, RRoD doesn't count every system does it, again, Nintendo fans your systems don't get as much play time as the others.
And by the way I own over a dozen game systems, and because of that I get screwed by their manufacturers all the timeCall me "The Cynical Gamer"
Make the Go! what the PSP2 should be; which is a brand new system. This is a umdless psp is a whole new concept and now there will be a sort of not-even-worth-it backwards compatibility. Sony should have given us another analog stick and started making new games on it. Who would want this over a 3000 with the next CFW that can play 6.0 games?
SONY! WHAT THE HELL WERE YOU THINKING?!
WTF you hate Apple? Let me guess, your a Microsoft fanboy...
Time after time it astonishes me how the guy in charge of the games division of sony is still in his position...
It is as if the goal of the psp go is to fail. It amounts to a broken more expensive psp that will most likely be hacked within a week of its release if not already...
I bet the sliding part is gonna break quickly too...
I am not a fanboy of any company, but Apple can suck my @$$. They are WAY over priced, and I couldn't live with myself if I ever turned into one of those Apple fanboys. You know they smell like overpriced Starbucks coffee and smugness.
You're right Snaku, 60GB PS3 is by far the best PS3 and the PSP-1000 is the best PSP. I am a proud owner of both :). And raggedijimmi, are you saying the PSP-1000 is bad? The ghosting on PSP-1000 isn't so bad at all; I almost never notice it. Plus you get a decent solid frame, (although neither PSP-1K or 2K have a 'bad' frame), and you get 100% homebrew compatability (almost), with the awesome 1.5 kernel. But, having said that, I'd settle happily for the 2K, but 3K, and 4K, NO! And yes, Sony do need a new team to work on their 'upgrades'. lol
I been saying that.. It looks like they deliberately trying to sabotage Playstation so they can give up on it and gamers won't complain too much because the whole thing got so bad, but they still making new consoles so really looks like they just got serious problems with Sony management and no-one can agree what to do.
On PSN, the only PSP downloadable full games are OLD and EXPENSIVE. Many are PSP launch games, still at $20.
Sony needs to try harder to get more games out there and cheaper if this download crap is ever going to take off.
What's wrong with UMDs?
i swear by the psp-1000, mine has hit the ground more times than i have on my skateboard. the best ps3 in my opinion were the first 80gbs.. media expansion slots, 4 usb slots, the best ps2 compatibility, aesthetics..