PSP piracy around the world

Posted Apr 21, 2006 at 9:06AM by QJ Staff Listed in: News Tags:
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While many places in the world take piracy very seriously, there are countless other countries worldwide that do not. Many people know this fact already, but it is hard to understand just how much piracy really goes outside of the internet unless you see it for yourself. Recently, I had the opportunity to browse one of the malls in the Philippines (which is a beautiful country), which definitely does not operate the same as any mall in the United States would, but is still fun to visit. Aside from many other things you can buy there, my mission was to get the underground story of the PSP, namely: the services offered to upgrade/downgrade your PSP, the service of loading ISOs, pre-formatted PSP movies, mp3s, and installing PSP wallpapers which, of course, is all done for a price.



The voyage started with an always-exciting-ride in a taxi, arriving to the front of the giant mall of just-about-anything-you-want. There were hundreds of technology shops in the mall, cell phone bazaars, PC, PS2, Xbox software, and of course the PSP services. Just to get a feel of what is offered: you have the option to upgrade your PSP, downgrade your PSP, buy ISOs and have them loaded with UMD emulator (and other varieties of such loaders), and get free ISOs with the purchase of a memory stick duo. The prices varied for ISOs, with some stores charging Php150-350 per ISO: the equivalent of USD$3-$7, and the price of a real UMD comparatively USD$50-$60, depending on where you go.



So, with these services offered, I thought "why not see how their upgrading/downgrading process works." (And I know two things will be asked, so I'll clarify now: 1. I did not buy any ISOs, and 2. There is no downgrader for 2.01+ on the other side of the world, sorry.) So I went to a nice little shop which offered the upgrade/downgrade service for the equivalent of $10USD. The task: upgrade my 1.50 to 2.0, and then downgrade it back down to 1.50.



The first thing the kind man did was to make sure I had a 1.50, which I did, and then swap out my battery with the one in his PSP since mine was a bit low on juice. From there, he opened up a folder on his computer containing a myriad of familiar programs, all to be run in an automated process for easy upgrades and downgrades, including an appearance from the Wab version changer as well. For some reason, he started the upgrading with a 1.52 update, and judging by the way the files are setup, it is their procedure to first upgrade to 1.52, and then 2.00. Anyways, needless to say, my PSP safely upgraded from 1.50, to 1.52 and then to 2.00. Afterwards, he opened their self-extracting auto downgrader for the PSP (note: a password was needed to run the file), and did the process once again, ultimately ending up with a 1.50 version PSP.


Now that the upgrade/downgrade was complete, he tried to sell me on some games, on which I said no thanks, but they did offer a large selection along with a latest release list. I then asked if they sell homebrew (aside from loaders), and thankfully they do not. Alongside the PSP, the NDS is made its own appearance for ISO loading as well. On another page, they also offer PSPs with different firmwares selling at a different price respectively. For example, a PSP with firmware 2.60 sells at approximately $230USD, while a 1.50 will fetch an extra $80-120USD.


What are your thoughts on this situation going on, is the country at fault, are the software giants letting it slide, and what could be done to have it stopped? Let us know in the comments below.

 
 
 

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by jas0nuk - 2006-04-21 01:18
» hehe

Just come to one of the markets here in North England, you'll see the same stuff going on

by Anonymous Coward - 2006-04-21 01:19
» woiw

thats gr8 im goin philippeans

by Anonymous Coward - 2006-04-21 01:19
» ARGGGGGGGgg

gahh priacy i hate it.

hope it dont kill the psp like it did dreamcast



p.s. first

by Anonymous Coward - 2006-04-21 01:22
» tight

thats tight i wish i could see that first hand...



its crazy how they can do that and make money but in the next firmware version not even HOMEBREW will be allowed...

by IronBob - 2006-04-21 01:27
» Sony should encourage homebrew

I don't see why sony don't release something like YBasic for the psp in the new firmware version. Let people make their own software and have the advantage of sony being able to control what you can and can't do. Though saying that we wouldnt have all the great programs we have at the moment.

by Anonymous Coward - 2006-04-21 01:29
» Lame

I think it's horrible. I'm strapped for cash but I wouldnt go and buy ISOs. I will say tho that a service offering to downgrade your psp is a good idea tho. I dont see the harm in that if that's all they did. I'm running 2.0 and want to downgrade mine but i cant bring myself to do it for some reason. I dont know if my games will work with 1.5 even with the loaders and I really want to try out the shells.

by bonzai10 - 2006-04-21 01:33
» It sux

People do everything to make money. In my country it's forbiden, i didn't see anything like that before

by mupet0000 - 2006-04-21 01:42
» lol

I dont buy isos, i download em! I mean, whats the point buying em when you can get a UMD.

by Anonymous Coward - 2006-04-21 01:50
» Piracy doesnt hurt a system

The dreamcast wasn't killed by piracy! it was killed by the ps2 and the fact that sega had a long history of making crappy systems and then abandoning them when things got tough(segacd,32x,Nomad,Saturn ) Customers trusted sony and they won big...Another thing The ps2 has the worst copy protection and the largest piracy rate but it is still the top system.. Piracy has been around for a long time and it actually stimulates sales of hardware and software ..if people like the iso and then go to walmart and see the game for 19.99 or a reasonable price they will most likely buy it but 50 for a portable game is a little stupid.

by Anonymous Coward - 2006-04-21 01:51
» Piracy fancy

welcome to the rest of the world. good report let everyone open their eye.

by Anonymous Coward - 2006-04-21 01:57
» hmmm

Well i wouldn't buy any ISO's off anybody if i wanted them that bad i would download them, oh wait there i guess that would make me the bad guy but hey at lest i don't sell them in a shop.



"What are your thoughts on this situation going on, is the country at fault, are the software giants letting it slide, and what could be done to have it stopped"



Well people are dyeing, children are crying, bombs are flying and all most people care about is how ISO hurt less than 1% of Sony's profits

by Anonymous Coward - 2006-04-21 01:58
» come to ukraine

and you will find the same stuff



dvds with loads of isos and downgrade and homebrew and the whole s**t



a psp with 1.50 is ~200$



a psp with 2.60 is ~180$

by Anonymous Coward - 2006-04-21 02:01
» hahaha

thats pretty funny, I never had any idea piracy was taken to this extent

by Anonymous Coward - 2006-04-21 02:02
» yay ppl actually know philippines now *my country

u have no idea what else in philippines, fake stuff, imported stuff , philippines are smart , and best in hacking ;) i remember some young kid hacked a bank and got 3 million canadian dollars



so if someone knows a filipino who's good at hacking, plz let them know that we need some hacking on 2.6

by Anonymous Coward - 2006-04-21 02:02
» it is open world

you have no right to make judgement on this. while you consider US do not have piracy openly, but ppl are downloading openly.



and you guys are raping iraq on the good fake name of protecting democractic pracise, but it is raping the iraqi for gas.

by s_h_a_d_o_w_s - 2006-04-21 02:03
» iso?

what is an iso?

by Anonymous Coward - 2006-04-21 02:04
» Dreamcast

The Dreamcast wasn't a crappy system, it was brilliant, and It's still got a strong following. It was just Sega themselves not advertising enough, and also EA refusing not to back the machine due to Sega's own range of Sports titles. It was also internet ready out of the box, and paved the way for the Xbox and PS2 online services. I certainly still play mine more then my PS2.

by Anonymous Coward - 2006-04-21 02:06
» yayyyy

piracy heaven! :)))))



fekk all teh corporations!!!



lets ALLL get it for free hahahahahaha



we shuld all download teh ISOs from kazaa for FREE



im moving to thailand soon! yayyy

by Anonymous Coward - 2006-04-21 02:07
» PIRACY SUXXX

SPEND MONEY ON GAMES GOOD.



DOWN WITH PIRACY.

by Disjunto - 2006-04-21 02:10
»

what you gonna do, it aint against the law over there, so techinically they are doing nothing wrong

by Anonymous Coward - 2006-04-21 02:13
» hoho ha ha

i think its funny that this would be on a site that promotes any kind of piracy except PSP piracy (snes, genesis, etc)



yes, there is a piracy problem, but what can we actually do. it's like saying "yes there is a mafia" but what CAN you do?

by Anonymous Coward - 2006-04-21 02:18
» Travel time

Time to head to the Philippines I guess...

by Anonymous Coward - 2006-04-21 02:18
» no to piracy

If we don't buy games, who is gonna make better and newer games?

don't say that you are like one in a million that pirates, coz that's just not true

plus, all new games nowadays require the latest firmware anyway, so unless you want to get stuck with all the old games.

by Anonymous Coward - 2006-04-21 02:19
» this things needs in the semi-periphery countries

without piracy the country would lost much of this economy and make them more "poor".

Wouldnt USA do the same thing if they hadnt the ability to develop new stuff?

by Jaris - 2006-04-21 02:22
» About the articles

Well as the comments quickly turn into a cesspool of idiocy, i hope that they will disable anonymous posting in the future.



Anyways, the Philipines is governed by the same Copyright laws anywhere else is, but they aren't enforced to the degree that they are in many other countries, such as the USA.



This is nothing, apparently taiwan is easily ten times worse.



The reason we have such a crackdown in the US on it, where law enforcement is actively persuing and enforcing the law, is to prevent it from becoming like these countries, where it is so widespread it is unstoppable.



In many areas of the US, though, you can find people selling DVDs on streetcorners, since those tend to sell well and are easily made. It is much more uncommon to see someone selling cds of ISOs or having a downgrader kiosk in the mall.



Lately, I must admit, I have seen an influx of nintendo ripoff systems being sold in the malls, where it plugs into the tv and has maybe 50/75 NES roms, with like 10 hacked versions of mario. All of them are poorly worded with engrish, and shoddily made.



To those that think they lose 1% in sales due to piracy. Wake up. they are losing much more than that.

PSP is controllable, with firmware updates, so they may only be losing a small amount there, but PS1/PS2 and sony's extensive DVD and CD selections are hurting them a lot more than people realize.



I really dont care if someone wants to pirate media. just dont justify it. You are more or less stealing a game/movie/song. Period.

by Anonymous Coward - 2006-04-21 02:23
»

Nothing anyone can really do about it. They don't have laws protecting software.

by Anonymous Coward - 2006-04-21 02:30
» isn't there interpol --hahaha

----> what the f*%$ man ???



You said:

The first thing the kind man did was to make sure I had a 1.50, which I did



And then you are saying

he upgraded and then dowgraded to 1.5

what the hell man, why the f*** is he upgrading then downgrading? is he an philipo idioto?



I wouldn't have any bastard lay his hands on my psp, especially in a third world country.

by Anonymous Coward - 2006-04-21 02:38
» I'm Filipino, and...

here in the Philippines, you can get all the best games for the ps2 for $2 or less just 5 days after its official release. for the PSP games, I've already seen dvds full of ISOs.. The pirates here don't really have the latest downgraders and other programs, so I don't think it's safe to have them downgrade your psp for ya. Just thinking of some pirate holding my psp makes me wanna cry. Mr. Dan E., in what city here in the phils. is the mall you went to?

by Anonymous Coward - 2006-04-21 02:38
» here

its the same in south wales there are places like that that pop up from time to time and no one really cares

by hAiLiE - 2006-04-21 02:40
» thoughts on piracy

II have always been a strong advocate of anti-piracy...until I took up communication theories at school. The thing is, yes, piracy is bad in that it steals a part of the publisher/developer/producer's cut in the sales. But the truth is, whatever piracy steals is a very minimal cut. See, piracy's target is not the 'normal' target of the original CD/VCD/DVD/games being sold in the market. Pirated stuff usually appeals to those who cannot afford the original; and rarely does the 'can-affords' opt to buy pirated copies. Hence, there's so little percentage being taken away from the origianl sales. And piracy is even good for the media and entertainment industry. With the low prices for the CD/VCD/DVD/games, media and entertainment reach the market that they fail to touch with their unbelievably high price. So if you love your CD/VCD/DVD/games but can't afford the real one, I say go and purchase the pirated ones. It's not gonna hurt (much) the industry anyway. ^__^



"what you gonna do, it aint against the law over there, so techinically they are doing nothing wrong :P"



FYI: There is an anti-piracy law in the Philippines. We even have what we call OMB (Optical Media Board), which is soooo stupid because they always go after the small fishes in the piracy world and fail to catch the big ones. This is because they really don't want to crush piracy...they just formed the group for media attention - just so the government can pretend that it's doing something important. Rawr. >_

by Anonymous Coward - 2006-04-21 02:41
» woot

hmmm just being sad, i was the first one to jump this article up lmao

by Anonymous Coward - 2006-04-21 02:41
» piracy is good

if it wasnt for piracy we wouldnt have firmware updates..sonyt would not have released 2.0 with a web browser and all the new features they are adding.. piracy can also lower the cost of commercial games.. if they dont seel well at the ridiculous 50 dollar prive then they will be lowered til they do sell..

by hAiLiE - 2006-04-21 02:43
» ...

Mr. Dan E., in what city here in the phils. is the mall you went to?



>>>okay, I'm not Mr. Dan, but let me take a guess...San Juan. that's the only place where you can find a "giant mall of just-about-anything-you-want" (^___^)v

by Jaris - 2006-04-21 02:50
» To #35

No, piracy causes prices to go up if they change at all, and sony always intended to update the firmware, thats why the entire network update feature was included with the PSP.



Video games have been coming out for many many years at 40$-50$ a game, even Nintendo, sega, SNES...

by Anonymous Coward - 2006-04-21 02:51
» Pretty sure I have cunsume more cash cuz of the piracy (new hardware etc).

Wouldnt buy a PSP if it wasnt for the ability to play homebrew, and ofcourse ISOs.



It's all about the maximize your own profit, which is the basic principle in the economics.

by Anonymous Coward - 2006-04-21 02:53
» Philippines is okay

It's nice to see intelligent responses from fellow filipinos. Although that one idiot from #14 sure doesnt help.



Anyway, piracy is rampant almost everywhere in east asia. Indonesia, China, Hongkong, Philippines, etc. Back then, I used to buy pirated PSX games in the flea market just outside church after sunday mass. Praise the Lord and pass the ISOs.



Theres no such thing here in Canada tho.

by Anonymous Coward - 2006-04-21 02:54
» hailie...

You mean greenhills? yeah, it looks like it from the picture with the xbox 360.hehehe, even designer clothes are pirated there...

by Anonymous Coward - 2006-04-21 02:54
» 36

It doesnt matter what city in the philippines, trust me on that. But in Manila, Cavite to be exact theres a lot of these things. PC games like BF2 selling for under a buck, softwares, ps2 games, SOME xbox games (xbox isnt that big back there) and ALOT of stolen cellphones are being sold in markets. If you go in any mall in the philippines, chances are you'll find one of those "piracy store" at the bottom level if not there are stands outside that sells pirated stuff

by Anonymous Coward - 2006-04-21 02:56
» :P

yo bro do you even know where san juan is effing retard.

this post is pickin on filiinos not pr biznatch

by Anonymous Coward - 2006-04-21 02:57
» ?

If you had already a 1.5, then why did he upgrade to 1.52 then to 2.0 and downgrade?



Doesn't make much sense...

by Anonymous Coward - 2006-04-21 02:59
» Piracy ruleZ

Well the truth's here - piracy is pretty much all around the world, except these countries!!!

USA, Canada, West Europe, Japan, Australia/NZ, Singapore.

by Anonymous Coward - 2006-04-21 03:00
» That looks like...

I'd say the mall Mr. Dan E. went to is greenhills shopping center=Piracy central. It even has a whole floor full of Pirated software.

by tschweg - 2006-04-21 03:03
» A++ would read again

nocomment

by Anonymous Coward - 2006-04-21 03:04
» take notice sony....

Instead of sony going after the little people, go after these bastards and sue them for everything they have. These are the people I want sued, broke, family living on the street. Stealing is stealing. Sony makes anyone who uses homebrew bad, but what about all those people.

by Anonymous Coward - 2006-04-21 03:05
» This is pretty normal...

piracy is part of our life lol.



dvd movies, boxsets, you name it.



looking for a place to get them? try Quiapo

by Anonymous Coward - 2006-04-21 03:07
» Piracy is rampant in the Philippines...

It's true

by Anonymous Coward - 2006-04-21 03:08
» How old is the kid who posted this?

Seriously, Piracy is everywhere. Look on any inner city market stall. I'm suprised the kid who posted this has never seen some place selling pirated gear before.

by Bigperm - 2006-04-21 03:10
» selling scene releases is sooo wrong

Yea. Its sick how you see this around the world.



Scene Releases should never be sold.

Do not ever buy a release. download them. Try before you buy. Quality developers deserve your support.



Everyone with a net connection has access to releases the first hour there release. Its not hard, just dont use kazza, emule or torrents.

by Anonymous Coward - 2006-04-21 03:12
» Piracy

i lived in Argentina in S. America for a while. There it is crazy. Stores that wuill sell u modded xboxs, ps2, xbox360's etc... They have services for every hacking need. Psp iso's.cell phone unlocks. xbox backup games EVETRYTHING U CAN THINK OF>!!!!!!!!!! Sony spends too much time and money trying to stop piracy while they could be making bigger and better things

by Anonymous Coward - 2006-04-21 03:14
» Piracy in BKK

I'm an American living in Bangkok Thailand and have been here for 8 years. Piracy here is all over the streets and even in departments stores. You can go to many places here and buy any PSP game you like and it will cost you around 1 U.S. dollar. If you buy a memory card from the shop they will fill it up with as many games as they can for free.



The PS2 is the most popular system here just because it has very cheap copies. I fear that if there are no copies for PS3 then they will not carry the real games here as you can only find a handful of real games for the PS2 here and they are overpriced and in Japanese...

by Anonymous Coward - 2006-04-21 03:14
» 1.5 ISO PWNS YOU ALL

You guys who hate on us who still have 1.5 & play all games are just jealous because you updated and can no longer play them. You thought that the scene wouldn't catch up to Sonys new games so you upgraded. Now that you *****es gotta pay for your ***** us who get ISOs get to play everything. So go beat your meat to your RSS while I get my free games 24/7 *****es.

by coldjim - 2006-04-21 03:18
» Piracy can be a good thing

Piracy can also be a good thing though. Its much cheaper, say for a modded xbox u pay about £80 but the new games are say about £40, so u can get the chip for the price of about 2 games. Then on after u have had the mod, u can pay for games about £10, it saves u a LOT of money!

by Anonymous Coward - 2006-04-21 03:20
» piracy?

hahaha ayos to. For my point of view, piracy is neither good nor bad. It all depends on the company that produced the original DVD/VCD/CD/ media. If the company is able to abide with the "correct procedures" and be able to serve as a an exemplary model to the people then piracy is a bad case. But if it's like "most" of the big big companies out there, who eats money as their daily diet, then piracy can be completely neglected in this case.

by Anonymous Coward - 2006-04-21 03:25
» This is So Cool

I wish my local mall had this guy, I would pay him just for the hassle of doing it myself. Thanks for the info, now I'm going to the Philippines.

by Clay - 2006-04-21 03:26
» to #30:

to #30: We are in Makati. The pictures were taken in Greenbelt mall. Where are you located at? Send an email to tips [@t] qj [dot] net and introduce yourself as \"Commenter #30\", we\'d love to talk to a Filipino PSP fan!!!

by Anonymous Coward - 2006-04-21 03:28
» Philippines

Hey, Don't cha all single out my country, man! We all love piracy here (why you say?), because it's too damn cheap to resist! Plus the quality is the same as the original (without the manuals, of course). Pirated DVDs are exactly the same as the original and is 'region free' (origs are not). So come on over guys! Tourists come here in droves just to buy our pirated products! They're good, man! I'm tellin' ya! ;)

by Anonymous Coward - 2006-04-21 03:28
» Guess what?! im also a filipino

u know what guys dont stereotype philippines with a piracy image. i mean its not only here that piracy happens.



there are sure of lot of things here worth checking out. the sceneries, the wonderful beaches, huge malls...whatever.



and to share with you something, im working in a foreign company here and american (some UK)officemates with high positions (managers, directors etc) would even ask us filipinos to assist them to go to Greenhills just to buy lots of stuff which is waaaaaaaay cheaper. can you just imagine that? theyre just being practical. by the way, sellers here doesnt only sell fake ones, even branded stuff too but cheaper.



the bottom line here is that theyre just making life easier doing modifications with our psp's. pirated dvd's and cd's, who would want to buy expensive stuff when you can also enjoy them w/o even worrying about your budget. economy here is falling, so people here wont have a choice but to be more practical. we arent buying for the BRAND, we are buying the PRODUCT.

by Anonymous Coward - 2006-04-21 03:31
» ***** h8a

dvd qua;ity is ***** dont lie #59

by Anonymous Coward - 2006-04-21 03:33
» bull

"and you guys are raping iraq on the good fake name of protecting democractic pracise, but it is raping the iraqi for gas."



I WISH this were true... our gas prices wouldn't be so damn expensive

by Anonymous Coward - 2006-04-21 03:44
» Welcome 2 the r3al world

Where in the world lived the guy who made the article? LOL I know about shops like that since the PS1 times and that was like more than 10 years ago?

by Anonymous Coward - 2006-04-21 03:46
» Philippines

I guess one of the culprits is that original video games are not being rented here (Philippines) AT ALL! (Probably because even if one of 'em rental companies do, it would be at a loss or considering the absurd prices of original games over here, the expected return on investment would take YEARS!!!! yes, YEAARRRRSS..., man!!!) I can only afford $2bucks max for a game (just enough for any pirate copy), so what can I do? Words of wisdom to my fellow shallow-pocketed Filipinos: "BUY AND PLAY WITHOUT CONSCIENCE!!!!"

by Anonymous Coward - 2006-04-21 03:55
» Idiots (like #63)

Ofcourse the guy behind the article know about this since long time back, but! That wasnt his opinion, it was to inform people about this, or just make a debate (which seem to worked).

by Anonymous Coward - 2006-04-21 04:17
» #68

Hey I'm the idiot and anonymous coward #63



Just 1 thing: I'm and idiot with an education, you know what that word means?



Take it easy man...

by Anonymous Coward - 2006-04-21 04:24
» lolz

I went to Costa Rica about 2 years ago and they had the same situation going on, minus the PSP stuff though. You could get PS2 games at the equivalent of $5 USD. Didn't buy anything though, I prefer to have the actual disk in my hands.

by Anonymous Coward - 2006-04-21 04:27
» Philippines

meh im from the Philippines





and if you bring 20$ there you can like buy 2-4 games worth 45+ ;p

by Anonymous Coward - 2006-04-21 04:56
» thats nothin

u should go to the UAE i live here and its full of piracy every where and for all game consoles any pirated game u want u can get

by Anonymous Coward - 2006-04-21 05:19
» sony are MUPPETS!

I have absolutely NO sympathy for sony when it comes to this. They are charging more for UMD's than for DVDs. That is fricken rediculuos.



The prices of the psp games are a total rip also ..especially when u consider what u are getting ...generally they are small games ..how can they be pretty much the same price as ps2 games!



Personally i'm the kind of guy who prefers have origional copies of stuff but I still wouldnt have any sympathy for sony over this!

by Anonymous Coward - 2006-04-21 05:36
» Craig David

The picture of his desktop shows he is listening to Craig David.



For this reason alone he is simply a tool.

by Anonymous Coward - 2006-04-21 05:47
» Pirary can be solved by Game Companies

I live in Thailand and years ago when PC games were sold at 30-40 US$, noone would buy the legals games. Now, PC games are good business here because all game companies are selling legal games here for 10-15 US$. Recent game like Empire At War are sold at 11 us$ and The Battle for Middle Earth II DVD-Collector Edition are sold at 15 US$. I did bought both games even I have no plan to play them soon just because they are quite cheap for me. Since game companies start doing this pricing strategy few years ago, I think that lots and lots of gamers buy real PC games here. Not many people buy pirate games for 2-4 US$ when that can buy legit games for 10+ US$. I was is USA last month and they sell both games I mentioned for much more $. There are many European/US people buying genuine games here and take them back because they are all in English and they are cheap legal copies. If you want to take a look, check out www.ea.co.th. It's all in Thai but if you poke around, you should see the price of the games there. For example, NFS MW Black Edition for PC listed at 699 THB (=17.5 US$) and has street price of around 15 US$.



For PSP, real games here are from Japan or it would be Region 3 Chinese language and it cost 50 US$. Which Thai people who cannot understand Chinese or Japanese will buy those games at 50US$. But it should be OK in the near future, I hope, because EA is releasing their games here for about 30 US$ even for the latest games. However, I still think 30US$ is too much for PSP games. If UMD can come down to 10-15 US$, that should be a good boost to UMD market here.



I have no exact info about PS2 games as I don't play console game but from what I see, all real PS2 games cost 50-70US$. So, piracy for PS2 grows because of the game companies' pricing strategy.

by Anonymous Coward - 2006-04-21 05:50
» Point of View on Piracy

well its really true that piracy has its advantages and disadvantages.

Well for the advantages basically people who cant afford the high cost of any software would tend to buy a substitute for those and thats the pirated cds, dvd's etc.

Second there are services that promotes piracy like here in my country, the philippines, is due to the fact that its hard to earn money especially to find a job so they think of ways on how to earn money and because of piracy these forms of making money are created

The third one is that piracy helps those who cannot even afford to learn using these softwares which makes the common man learned thereby destroying the barrier that makes one ignorant and opens the mind to a global perspective.



The disadvantage is that piracy destroys future carreers, jobs and the economy as a whole. Imagine why can't game developers (stand alone like anito by anino entertainment not the MMORPG's) establish themselves in the country and other foreign investors to invest because piracy simply makes it not feasible. There are alot of creative Filipinos and many of them are going abroad which results in brain drain and again is the bad effect of piracy



well clearly if we analyze the disadvantages and advantages of piracy, the advantages that piracy brings is more of a personal gain which is more selfish while the disadvatages can destroy the development of a country as a whole

by Anonymous Coward - 2006-04-21 06:00
» stuck on 2.60

i live in the philippines.. i often go to greenhills shopping center for my gaming needs.. i got a modded xbox and i get games for about (converted) $3.. But i upgraded my psp to 2.60 do i dont get all that pirated *****.. i would play pirated games on my xbox but i dont think i would allow ***** to enter my psp.. buuuuuuuuuuuuuu uuuut.. it was a bit stupid to upgrade to 2.60 since pirated games cost.. [P300 ba? haha.. ewan.. putang ina.. basta yun.. tae.. walang kwenta orig! mabuhay ang mga pirata!!] translation [dont buy pirated games]

by Anonymous Coward - 2006-04-21 06:03
» Depend on country income.

Honestly I think its ok to pirate in underdeveloped contries where the average yearly income is say under 5,000 USD. You cant expect everyone to pay $50 for a game since thats what the US and EURO can pay. There are lots of other unfortunate people in the world that do not have the means to toss there fat nerdy kid a $100 to goto the mall to by video games and berkenstocks.

by Anonymous Coward - 2006-04-21 06:08
» price is everything

Let's do the math.

I live in Chile and here the price tag for a psp game is about 100 U$ dollars, about double than in the US.

The income per capita in my country is about a fifth of the US, so that gives us a game for 500 dollars. I asume that in other third world countries the situation is simmilar so it's very difficult to enforce anti piracy laws.

Try selling a game for 500 bucks in the US.

by Anonymous Coward - 2006-04-21 06:13
» lol, #77

indeed, that means don't buy pirated games. ahahahahhahahah aha... Have you seen the pirated GC games? I think nintendo's done a good job in stalling pirates because they haven't released plenty of pirated Gamecube games.. I don't know how they did it though... Oh, by the way, I heard from my pirate friend(arrrr, matey) that the companies that make the consoles are those who tip off hackers on how to mod their systems. He told me that for the gamecube, it was nintendo who released a blueprint on how to install a chip into the GC's motherboard..



Though I am skeptical, I don't think this is completely bull because pirated goods don't get taxed by the gov't... hmmm, true consPIRACY or are pirates really that crafty?

-commenter#30

by Anonymous Coward - 2006-04-21 06:34
» WHAT IS AN ISO?

nocomment

by Anonymous Coward - 2006-04-21 06:41
» hi

oh my *****! how come we dont have thoes type of shops here? (uk)

by Anonymous Coward - 2006-04-21 06:47
» Pfft!

Piracy doesn't hurt the individual companies as much as crappy games do. Oblivion and Galactic Civilizations 2 both have crappy (or no) copy protection. Are they selling well? YES! Why? Because they're not crappy $50-$70 games that stink. I personally hate paying a load of money for a game that entertains me for 10 minutes (if even). Maybe if developers stopped churning out the same recycled crap that it has been lately, more people would buy the games. Besides, like other people have said, the ones who download and pirate usually didn't intend to buy the original game anyways, so it's not a big loss. Games should also be a bit cheaper. I don't necessarily need games to be $5, but at $50-$70 a game it's just a little too much. PSP games are especially ridiculously priced. Look at GTA: LCS for PSP vs it for PS2. All these anti-piracy people need to stop preaching because there's either people who care anyways, or don't and refuse to listen anyways.

by Anonymous Coward - 2006-04-21 06:52
» #80

About the GC stuff, there are hundreds of GC games pirated (basically every game). The GameCube laser is a normal DVD laser that reads from the outside in (instead of inside out). You need a chip and a new case top to allow for the bigger DVDs and thats it. Simple.

by Anonymous Coward - 2006-04-21 06:53
» haha

this makes me wanna go bak to my homeland Philippines.... yahhh.... im gonna save up some money b4 i go ther.... buy me a 1.5 psp, modded ps2 and a lot of other ***** [inggit lang sila saten kase wala sila nyun sa bansa nila.... matatalino kase tau eh... pag punta nila sa pinas mananakawan yan lol] translated u should go to the Philippines and hav funn

by Anonymous Coward - 2006-04-21 06:58
» ISO?

Ok stupid quesiton, but i've read most of this post and I STILL don't know what an ISO is or HOMEBREW. Funny cuz its not FAQs either.

by Anonymous Coward - 2006-04-21 06:59
» But what's the point?

if everything's online anyways, why even go into a shop?

by cubiCPixel - 2006-04-21 07:06
» Nice little article...But games are too pricy :(

Seriously this is the type of "out of context" news that I like about this site. This comment may not even be read by anyone but we should all submit information from our global point of view.



I live in Quebec where our dollar is about 80cents american. Even do its similar... I am still not interested in paying 59.99$ for a psp title when my friend bought Amped 3 for Xbox 360 at 49.99$ (regular price). Or that even GTA: Liberty Stories for PS2 is going to be tagged at 20$!!



Its outrageous that Sony complains that homebrewers are illegal or even immoral. Give us some slack. I'm going to keep my PSP at 1.50 and play on emulators until they give me more to do then watch pictures/music/video. (COME ON FLASH PLAYER lol).



Downloading ISO's, I agree, is more then immoral. It may be easy to do but you don't even know how many hours of dedication we put intoo them. Its the same as stealing the disc from the shelves period.



YOU DON'T OWN THE RIGHTS TO PLAY THE GAME IF YOU DON'T HAVE A HARD COPY.



I own all of the games that I have on my Snes emulator. My Xbox isn't chipped and I only use downloaded programs on my PC because Adobe and Macromedia pakages are worth 1000's of dollars lol !!!



Thats my rent of the day I guess, Peace Out



ps: Caliss the grosse coorporatives, jme crosse avec vos barrières lol

by Anonymous Coward - 2006-04-21 07:09
» Pinas!!!

Talking about Philippines...first of..If you go there...Dollar equivalent to Peso....you like the king.....if you have a lot Dollars....because is so cheap....Bebots everywhere...Piracy of course.....nobody could beat that.....I love P.I. Putangina I cant wait to go home....sige mga pare kitakita na lang tayo dun....lol!

by Anonymous Coward - 2006-04-21 07:28
» I'm a Filipino

I live in the Philippines, I'm a Filipino and I earn PhP100,000 ($2000) a month....



I don't buy Pirated DVDs...I'v got a bunch of originals here...around 100 titles to be exact (ey! I'm a collector!)



I don't buy pirated CDs...I also got a collection of origs.



All my PC software are origs



I spend $100-200 for a pair of jeans.



I spend $30 at least for t-shirts.



I have 2 sports cars (1 is a modded Skyline)



I'm already 28



I've got 3 PSPs (a 1.5, a 2.6 black and a 2.6 white)



I just recently bought an HD DVD player and an 52" HD TV.



But I still buy ISOs.....a DVD full of them!

Why?...I dunno....I just like trying out the homebrew loaders stuff. I just hate UMDs...I hate carrying them around...I don't time to back up UMDs just to play them in my Mem Sticks.

by Anonymous Coward - 2006-04-21 07:28
» Si yo se

Yea its the same inA Argentina I was talking to my cousin and hes like "Yea we have shops that sell games for psp and put them on memory sticks" pretty weird if you think about it.

by Anonymous Coward - 2006-04-21 07:32
» Nice Read.

nocomment

by Anonymous Coward - 2006-04-21 07:36
» >>

This comment section is turning into people bragging about how much more piracy is rampant in their country.

by NeilR - 2006-04-21 07:41
» Question Answers

@ #81, #86 - Google is your friend. There's also some great guides in the forums under "FAQs, Guides, and Tutorials" .. if you need more details look there.



An ISO is an image of a disc. In this case, ISO is in reference to ripped UMD games.



Homebrew refers to programs and games made "at home"; basically, stuff that isn't licensed or authorized by the company (a.k.a Sony).

by Anonymous Coward - 2006-04-21 07:43
» la de da

Ok am sorry but why do people say there will be no good games getting made if people don't show there support? PC games have be pirated for years and I've never seen a decline in good games so please stop using that as an excuse because it's getting old and it's a fact developers wont stop making games.



Bottom line very few people even know about homebew never mind iso's (even fanjita said that) so how can the few people downloading game cause Sony problems? The whole iso's are bad and hurt the psp on this site is almost propaganda like.

by Anonymous Coward - 2006-04-21 07:46
» lol

Here in my country P.R. there is a kiosko in the mall where for 75 bucks they downgrade 2.00+ in an hour to 3 hours so I'm thinking of downgrading my from 2.6 to 1.5 but 75 bucks seems too much , my friend did it and it worked nicely but he says that he is still doubtful of paying 75 bucks when he could had gotten a new psp in ebay at 100 bucks.

by Anonymous Coward - 2006-04-21 07:46
» hHHAHAHAH

man.. i go there on vacation sometimes and the last time i went, there were cops chasing this one guy down for selling fake ps2 games... lol

by Anonymous Coward - 2006-04-21 07:46
» say what ya want...

everyone wants to play on consoles, but when 1 new game costs about 1/3 of sallary in our country, then i'm not surprised. In USA it's so obvios that you buy original games, but when you have to choose 1 game per 2 months or 1memory stick forever, then you know what to do. Of course we buy some originals too, but not so often, as in usa or japan!

by Anonymous Coward - 2006-04-21 07:53
» lol

Here in my country P.R. there is a kiosko in the mall where for 75 bucks they downgrade 2.00+ in an hour to 3 hours so I'm thinking of downgrading my from 2.6 to 1.5 but 75 bucks seems too much , my friend did it and it worked nicely but he says that he is still doubtful of paying 75 bucks when he could had gotten a new psp in ebay at 100 bucks.

by Anonymous Coward - 2006-04-21 08:07
» Thats pretty stupid

If you go into the store asying you want your PSP downgraded, theres a 99.9% chance you want to cuz of homebrew and ISO loaders. If you knew about hat, you probably go to sites like these and should've easily been able to find how to downgrade on 1 of those sites.



However, $3-$7 for an ISO isn't that bad cuz it would save a lot of time and space on my hard drive. However, I wouldn't mind paying like $30 for a brand new game (maybe off ebay); $50 is too much, though! Plus, I could then resell it for profit! Thats 2 good reasons why ebay is the best marketplace for games.

by gamerX09 - 2006-04-21 08:17
» ...why?

1. Piracy sucks, and its the reason why companies hate their consumers (which is sad since not everyone pirates games)

2. Why would you pay for this stuff? Everything they offer can be done on your own for free. Sure, you have to do some searching and it will take a while, but its better than paying someone to do this. Thank you, but if I want to downgrade my PSP, Ill do it myself.

by gamerX09 - 2006-04-21 08:19
» also

also, why would you pay up to $350 for a 1.5 PSP when you can just buy a 2.0 PSP and downgrade it, and save yourself $120?

by Anonymous Coward - 2006-04-21 09:07
» Wow...@101

sounds interesting, i support piracy, everything costs too much, why make it hard for yourself. I mean, i do buy originals too, but only if its a title well worth buying. As for the downgrade of 2.6 to 1.5, kinda surprise me, but its no surprise they might have swapped the main board..I could be wrong, but I wont be surprise though.



Piracy lives on...

by Anonymous Coward - 2006-04-21 09:23
» Guess this can't be blank...

Americans are no more ignorant or dumb than any other civilization that has graced the face of this small planet.



We are aware that there is a "rest of the world", after all, we can't get them the hell outta our country!



Love the article, and the writer's POV... and he did a 1.5>2.0>1.5 because that was a semi-difficult task and one that he was very familiar with, so he would be able to spot inconsistancies .



Alakahkid

(not sure if I'll ever activate my account)

by Anonymous Coward - 2006-04-21 09:24
» to #103

Obviously none of us would need to pay for this stuff even if we were into piracy but i'm pretty sure around 90% of psp owners prolly arent into the "online scene". Then its just staright out conveniant for them;)



..thats how these kind of pirates make so much $$$!

by Anonymous Coward - 2006-04-21 09:41
» big deal....

To anyone who lives outside the USA, and especially to those who live in Asia etc., this article is NO BIG DEAL....



this *****t happens - but whether it is it right or wrong is really quite a debatable topic and is not the clear-cut black-and-white situation that people think it is.



My view - the whole piracy business thrives because the industry is not in tune with the fact that the difference in per capita income across nations is HUUUGE. So would someone pay $40 - $50 for a ps2 game in a country where many young people might not be earning more than $300 a month??? I think that's where they could have used that whole DVD-Region thing to apply price discrimination between nations, but instead it's just to irritate the living hell out of us.



The companies probably don't fret about third-world piracy because maybe just maybe they realize that there is no "lost revenue" there...

by Anonymous Coward - 2006-04-21 10:12
» piracy (2 sides to the coin)

I have to agree that the games are to pricey. the people who can afford to buy the games usually do and those that can´t will pirate. but like what was already said, theres not much lost revenue there because those people weren´t going to be buing lots of games anyway. I´m living in Portugal right now and I was just checking out the psp stuff today in the stores.most of the games are all 50 to 55 euros. thats about 60 to 65 US dollars. the only game I saw for 30 euros was go sudoku. the dvd movies are 19.99 to 25 euros. now considering that minimum wage here is around 400 euros a month for a full time job do you see the problem.

Don´t forget even the people who are playing pirates still have to purchase the console and memsticks so it´s not a total loss. just my 2 cents

by Anonymous Coward - 2006-04-21 10:28
» fellow filipinos!!!

hi my fellow countrymen. do u have a site wherein we pinoy psp fans can interact? i mean i see seldom pinoy psp owners here.



itll be a lot cooler if we have a site just for us where we can share our thoughts and ideas. probably yahoo groups?



thanks. =)

by Anonymous Coward - 2006-04-21 10:29
» to #91

Pilipino ka nga... Halata naman... MAYABANG

by Anonymous Coward - 2006-04-21 10:31
» Amen!

nocomment

by Anonymous Coward - 2006-04-21 10:37
» TO #112

pare i agree, di naman kelangan imention kung ano ang mga pag-aari mo sa buhay. mayabang nga hehe. ano kaya ang gusto niyang palabasin sa mga sinabi nya? na ang iba sa mga pinoy e mahirap pa sa daga?!

by Anonymous Coward - 2006-04-21 10:49
» !

i am SO going to the phillipines

by Anonymous Coward - 2006-04-21 10:50
» LOL

LOL. This is soo common. Down in Syria there are literally thousands of stores selling hundreds of different games for PC's, PS2, PSP, ect....And the best part is the government supports them =) The games are only $1 each btw ;)

by Anonymous Coward - 2006-04-21 11:17
» Illegal is the American Way

I live in the US. My dad works for the goverement making decent money. Two years ago, my dad got a $12,000 a year paycut. After this we had NO money. I hardly ever got new things. What did I do? I went out bought a DVD burner and starting copying DVD's and CD's. When the PSP came out I downloaded the games. If I ever need software I go to www.phazeddl.com. This is just my way of getting back at the

goverment for the way they *****ed us. The only time I ever get an original is when someone else buys it for me. Then I copy it and sell it. The US sucks!! Support Piracy!!



***** AMERICA!!!!!!!! !!!!!

by Anonymous Coward - 2006-04-21 11:35
» to #91

Napaka-yabang mo #91, nakakahiya ka! You're probably either a corrupt government employee or a drug pusher!

by Anonymous Coward - 2006-04-21 11:41
» pirate

Just for some infos, not all malls in the philippines carry pirated stuff, big malls like SM and robinsons don't have them, oh wait they do have P* stuffs on cyberzone at SM Megamall, and I saw a shop at Robinson's Imus, ...

ok Pirates are rampant here.



Arrrg! mateys.

by Snoopster J - 2006-04-21 12:03
» heh

sounds a lot like a certain asian city I know...starts with an h and ends with ong kong...=P



piracy = poop

and they both start with the same letter ;)

by Anonymous Coward - 2006-04-21 12:06
» what

whoever posted number 15, if we're going into iraq for oil, then why does gas cost 3x as much now. I would flame but noone will read this........

by Anonymous Coward - 2006-04-21 12:20
» $$$$$

Paying $80 - $90 (australian) for a game thats probally gunna b crap, when u canget the ISO and see wot its like before you buy it.

by Anonymous Coward - 2006-04-21 13:08
» piracy is 4 pu$$ies

after all ppl who download iso's r the reason y many other companies r reluctant to make psp games cuz eventually it would get hacked, every1 would download it and no money would be made

by Anonymous Coward - 2006-04-21 13:36
» oil?

the reason oil is going up is because of iran!

by Anonymous Coward - 2006-04-21 14:17
» Mabuhay! Welcome to the Philippines!

Wow! this is first to me... Philippines featured on PSP scene :) well i'm also a Filipino, bought my PSP Ceramic White from Hong Kong, which I bought already downgraded to v1.5 after the downgrader hit the web for a weak.



The seller that I bought my psp said to me that it is better to buy a high capacity memorystick and load up some ISO on my PSP because UMD cost much more and the loading time is so slow! very slow compare to ISO. For my opinion, it is true! and it will make your lens weak also.



Filipinos (people from the Philippines), are just being practical people. We just want our money to be worth it and not just being flush down to the drain. Labor here is cheap but we work hard for our money. And almost all Filipinos are into gadgets.



Fake clothes? well some... but if you only know, some of the top designer clothes are being manufacture here. Cheap labor, cheap raw materials but good quality.



and piracy makes the console and other stuff sellable.



"Para sa mga naghahanap ng pinoy psp forum, meron sa www.pinoypsx.com at www.tipidpc.com"

by Anonymous Coward - 2006-04-21 14:39
» Philippines

Im on my way to the Philippines...Anyone going with me?

by Anonymous Coward - 2006-04-21 15:01
» Places to go to in the Philippines

Greenhills, San Juan is the premier location of pirated stuff

St. Francis Square in Ortigas

Raon in Quiapo

Shaw Blvd MRT Station

Gilmore Ave in QC/San Juan

Baclaran (for pirated films)

Tutuban Station

Recto Avenue in front of Far Eastern University

any second-rate malls with a tiangge (flea market)

by Anonymous Coward - 2006-04-21 15:05
» LOL

LOL I live in the Philippines and I've passed by that store a couple of times

by Anonymous Coward - 2006-04-21 15:14
» to 112 & 114

Kung mayabang ako...dapat pinost ko na ang pangalan ko para lahat ng tao malaman kung sino ako. BOBO pala kayong mga tanga kayo e. Ang nagyayabang ay yung pinapaalam niya sa lahat na mas mataas siya sa karamihan! Kilala niyo ba ako? Alam niyo ba kung sino ako? kung hindi...hindi ako nagyayabang. Kaya nga anonymous! Mga hungkag na gago talaga ang ibang pilipino! parang kayo! magisip isip nga kayo.



may business ako...a salon business...I'm not a corrupt government official nor a drug pusher.



May tiyaga ako at utak kaya umabot ako ng ganito...mga totoy pa siguro kayo TANGA!

by Anonymous Coward - 2006-04-21 15:30
» STOP

Pls stop using deregatory words in these forums. Its just for talking about the PSP and not for showing to the world on how Filipinos are divisive.

by Anonymous Coward - 2006-04-21 15:56
» Homesick dude

I was kinda excited when I bought my psp in the U.S. but after playing my 1st set of games, namely mga, lumines, wipeout I was kindoff dissapointed.



After I got back 2 the Phillipines, I was waiting for something like this 2 came up and thankfully it did. I quickly sold 2 of my games but left wipeout so that I can access the Internet when I go back 2 the U.S.



I just bought my bro. a 1.52 psp and sent it 2 the Philippines so he can play it w/out spending 2 much w/ the games.



I know a lot of guys who upgraded & all they can do is swap their games or buy used umds. Piracy is not really stealing, remember ur buying the stuff that they pirate so how can u steal if u bought it...

by Anonymous Coward - 2006-04-21 16:05
» to 131

mayabang k nga!!! u dnt hav 2 enumerate what u have sa forum d ba!!! u must be one silly guy funny ur the only 1 thinking n d k mayabang HEHEHEE... bading!!!

by Anonymous Coward - 2006-04-21 16:41
» T_T

please stop communicating in other language other than english.. i beg of you... it makes other people feal uneasy... it's like when someone is talking about something and you dont understand what theyre saying.. you feel soo uncomfortable...... anyway.. yeah.. piracy is bad... if you want games.. just get the homebrew ones.. not the umd's... it'll kill the umd sales... like what happened in the umd movies.. big companies wont be releasing any umd movies... and probably in a couple of months.. umd movies will be completely eradicated....

by Anonymous Coward - 2006-04-21 16:59
» whats so bad about piracy...

Sounds pretty sweet, i wouldn't mind going there, but then again its all pretty n00bish stuff.



It's honestly not very hard to downgrade and set up a loader with iso's by yourself.



I've done it on countless psp's...

by hazeNaPula - 2006-04-21 17:14
» Its the same thing everywhere...

I remember when I lived in Saudi Arabia and legit games are pretty scarce there (Because they jack up the price up around 20% making them unattractive to many). Almost all games are pirated there, PS2 games cost there now like $4.I also remember they were downloading N-Gage games to memory sticks for around $3 (when people still cared about the N-Gage). Its pretty normal for countries where they dont have a legit distributor for games to have piracy, and retailers import the games and then raise the price to make a profit. Oh and dont mind the comments in Filipino, they arent saying anything bad or offensive against anyone else (except to other filipinos) and y'all arent missing much.



Well all of the things they use in those shops can be acquired through the net, if you know how to look that is. So there isnt a really good reason to go there. Any PSP owner whose look through a lot of PSP-related sites (especially this one) will know the software they use.



And another thing, all PSPs there in the philippines(als o in saudi arabia) are imported by retailers, so the psp hasnt officially entered the market. Piracy is bad but the fact that there arent officially released games at an accessible price makes it even worse...

by hazeNaPula - 2006-04-21 17:30
» why?

Oh why the hell did he need to go from v 1.50 > v1.52 > v 2.0 then downgrade back to v 1.5 again? That doesnt make sense at all, using that .tiff overload downgrader wasnt necessary beacuse you can already play .iso's on v1.5.

by Anonymous Coward - 2006-04-21 18:46
» Laugh

This news post made me laugh a little, you want to try looking down kowloon sometime. Piracy is rife there.

Also a little hypcrytical dont you think too ? No one supports piracy but most are quick to downgrade their PSP so play ' homebrew '



Nah what rubbish, most people did it to play copied iSO games simple as, nuff said.

by Anonymous Coward - 2006-04-21 18:58
» second picture above

hehe, that's where i bought my 1.5 PSP on the second picture from above

no kidding.. i can still remember how i opened lots of PSP just to find one with a fully working d-pad.. all the PSP they sell there was crap. It's either the D-pad doesnt register with the PSP, or either the UMD drive isnt working.



and yeah, piracy is very popular here in the philippines. you know why? High ranking officials are backing them up

by Anonymous Coward - 2006-04-21 19:18
» So true!!

Im a Filipino too,what i remember 10 year ago when i was there is Money talks bull***** walks,and i guest its still is.LOL,just like #141 said High ranking officials are backing them up.

by Anonymous Coward - 2006-04-21 20:18
» #141 is a teh MAN!

TARANTADO KA! Yabang mo! Patunayan mo nga! Ako nasa Pinas din, at may 626 different original titles ako sa DVD. Ano masasabi kumag? at may videogame shop pa ako sa greenhills. Im earning around $4500 a month!



[TRANSLATION] Will you marry me?

by RaiderX - 2006-04-21 20:32
» money duh!

duh! people want money, so they provide a service that most people cant do themselves.



I wonder wut they do if they brick yer PSP...

by Anonymous Coward - 2006-04-21 20:42
» im filipino tooo!

philippines is cool and i miss it.guess what,when we move here in the us,i bought alot of pirated stuff. hahahahhahahahh ahahahahaha. fairview qc!!!!!!!!!!!!! !

d nyo 2 kyang bshn!

by Anonymous Coward - 2006-04-21 21:12
» All About Economics

Piracy in the Phiippines or any 3rd world country is so prevalent because the people can't afford to buy legit games. The minimum wage in the Philippines is less than 300 pesos (around $6 a day). UMD games cost between 2000 to 4000 pesos each ($40 to $80), so without piracy thousands of people wouldn't be able to afford having a PSP.

by Anonymous Coward - 2006-04-21 22:00
» t0 #91

Skyline....just keep dreamin homey! $2 G's/month...lol daz it!...datz all you make....original diz original dat....be real ni66uh!!! full of bullsh*t!....sorry a55! shame on u if you pnoy...putangina mo...! Step up foo! I see you around Eastwood, QC..Strip......Bring your "Skyline" LOL tangina hintayin kita...Just look for Black Datsun 510" hehehe

by Anonymous Coward - 2006-04-21 23:04
» pinoy oh pinoy

oh pinoys... first you're proud of you're bearing and you're privileges, next thing you know you fight amongst each other... for what??? a comment post on piracy in the phils... wala nang away away, so what kung mayamn si ganito at walang pera si kwan, ang importante may piracy dito... mr rich guys point was that piracy is a benefit not only for the "have nots". ANd mr. rich guy, when you shouted back "tanga" to the other flips, you just put yourself on an elevated status to pass judgement... which is an act of "kayabangan" whether anonimity is present or not, the fact that you had to defend you're comment, means that all other comments had a direct reference to you, which means you are as offended when other people call you mayabang as you were flattered calling yourself "rich" (in many implied ways) in the post, if you post with anonimity, post with full detachment... enuf with this psycho-babble.... the point is..... that i'm so fuccking "masaya" because some damn "onaks, at kung san pang bansa sila galing" are so friggin "inggit sa atin... na kung sila may" opportunity "para ma-" take advantage "ung" piracy "na meron tayo." Much worse "nakakatakot kasi na aminin sa sarili, na na-daig sila ng" so called 3rd wor

by Anonymous Coward - 2006-04-22 01:35
» piracy is hell

i hate piracy it just kills the industry that we love! did you know that even if these people are caught by the police they still come back nd do you know why? coz many people keep the alive and buy their merchandise!





the hell with piracY!!!

by Anonymous Coward - 2006-04-22 02:44
» Wow...

piracy isn't the only thing that's going down here... There's this disease called "crab mentality." See the posts above^. Richy Rich Salon Boy has the right to post his opinion on this matter, and he just so happened to include certain details which seem to piss off a few skeptical people. Though bragging is really an annoying Filipino trait, just remember, if you've got nothing good to post, then...stfu. peace.

-commenter#30

by Dan - 2006-04-22 03:04
» Mall

To Hailie and everyone else, you're correct it is Green Hills. Great place, very fun to go there. =)

by Anonymous Coward - 2006-04-22 04:48
» I am a pirate

A lot of people dont realise that piracy has been around since the first day that recording technology was created. The publication companies really started to piss and moan about it after Metallica sued Napster, and is still snowballing. But companys survived back before this media outcry, the only difference now is that everywhere you go on the internet there is some n00b whining about how they hate piracy, when in reality they are just mad because they arent smart enough to download and install warez.



I grew up with piracy, pirate tapes, pirated vhs, pirate satelite TV, pirated 5" floppys, pirated 1 1/4 floppy disks, burnt cd's, burnt dvds etc etc. Companies talk about loss of profits, however I would NEVER have been able to afford ANY of the things I pirated, especially after paying the price of the hardware. The way that I see it is that the publishing companies would have never made any money from me anyway, so what is the harm?



And, more to the point, if I found something I liked I would recommend it to anybody who was interested. I am sure that I would have been responsible for more than a few sales after I have given the thumbs up to a friend or a colleague.



I think that if you are pirating for proffit, or if you are paying for piracy then you are indeed a prick, because then you are genuinely taking profits from the wallets of the publishers, as there i money being spent that could be lining their pockets.



Otherwise, who *****ing cares? Most people wouldnt be buying the crap they download anyway! If you like it, buy it. You have to own it to play online anyway. And, more to the point, mind your own *****ing buisness.

by Anonymous Coward - 2006-04-22 05:44
» yay

im an anonymous coward!

by mupet0000 - 2006-04-22 06:24
» and

If you had a 1.5 PSP, a 2GB memory stick and a good internet connection with easy access to working ISO's for free, would you say no?



I think not.

by Anonymous Coward - 2006-04-22 08:54
» socom ftb??

any1 here play socom ftb online???

by Anonymous Coward - 2006-04-22 10:14
» 159

yeah.. i heard socom is sooo coool since it also have the headset and mic thing going on.. but i only play.. need for speed most wanted 5-10 online.... socom is like counter strike ryt??.... *we need to redirect peoples mind... this comment place is getting warmed up by fights* chill out dudes.... PEACe On Earth...

by Anonymous Coward - 2006-04-22 10:55
» My ISO idea.......

Iv'e went through 4 PSP's, just to get a Version 1.50. It's the best!!! I DO own about 8 actual UMD games, and then I own about 25 ISO Games. (8 of them I own). I like to play games from the UK and JAPAN, which you can't really buy easily in the US. (such as Colin McRae, Bleach HOTS, etc.). I say that you still bought the PSP system, and then a 4GB Sony DUO stick, so your still giving your money to sony right?



WHO LIKES LOADING THEIR GAMES QUICKLY FROM THE DUO STICK, and not having to swap out the UMD's???

My idea:

I say that since lots of Pirates arn't buying the games, but are buying the memory and equip to play ISO's, you think then these game developers should sell the ISO's themselves??? For like 1/2 the price, 3/4, or even full price, on a website preferably, already sized down to like 200mb? A direct download like that, I WOULD DO IT! It's worth not getting cought to download from that Kazaa s**t! Full of viruses anyway. These game developers could make an ISO and their own launcher program or something that makes it look like you own the game. But then wouldn't you just give your file to someone else? Well, think about iTunes, their files are protected, so could the ISO's. Somehow or another.



Sony could then bring out a new firmware 3.00 or something that plays these games. Then since your actually legit, you could use all the great new feature of the new firmware, own the games running off your memory stick, and the company's are happy, and so are you! All around I think it might work.



Think about it, the company's would get more people to buy PSP's, sell more DUo sticks, and make MORE money from the games!



Who likes my idea? Anyone agree???





BTW, I'm not a coward!! I just don't want to register for some qj.net site.

by Anonymous Coward - 2006-04-22 13:32
» @161

hey! not a bad idea eh..paging Sony.. [lol.as if they're gonna hear us]

by Anonymous Coward - 2006-04-22 13:32
» same old reli..

nocomment

by Anonymous Coward - 2006-04-22 13:43
» same old reli..

it has more or less been the same and always will.. thers piracy everywher... jst about every city/town here in scotland thers a stall or sumfin thts sellin pirated games/dvds/cds/videos.. if it did make a difference 2 the companies tht made them im sure they wud take alot more action sumhow to stop this...so its gona keep happenin and we cant stop it.. piratings bad.. true.. does it reli.. i mean reli make a huge difference to the companies.. doesnt look like it... seeing as there still here.. so on wiv it... yay for piracy!! yay for the companies for keepin at it!!

by Anonymous Coward - 2006-04-22 15:08
» I love it when...

people pose as me, it just makes me look better.

BTW, I just saw a few new ISO dvds... 25 in 1 pack,and it's here for sale for about Php1300

by Anonymous Coward - 2006-04-23 09:21
» so cool!!!!

chilll out pinoys.... those who hate pirates... dont hate the player... hate the game... ey, where can i get cheap PSP DVD ISOs in the phils??? i currently got a 13 in 1 for 1200 at greenhills and their selection is pretty limited... any of you pinoys know where I can get a cheap and/or wider selection??? and yeah, was there been anyway found to run certain ISOs without having an original UMD in tray??? help???

by Anonymous Coward - 2006-04-23 10:03
» TO YALL WHO SAY PIRACY IS BAD !!!

STfu U RE JALOUS we know we got a psp1.5 and we getting game for nothing 20$ unlimited on net so U fool go waste ur money FOOL

by Anonymous Coward - 2006-04-23 14:39
» Nice!!! Only in the Philippines!!!

thats true, only in the Philippines, you can but there a second hand psp and etc. like this place.!!!

by Anonymous Coward - 2006-04-24 13:58
» I Saw That 2

I went to Jakarta, Indonesia over the summer and they had the same stuff accept i didn't see it for the psp just every other game console i bought midnight club 3 dub edition from there for $60 my mom was abit skeptical at first beacuse previous times i had been ther i bought ps1 games and brought them back to play with here in the US but they didn't work but i assured here there was no way to pirate an actual UMD so i bought it and it worked great but it really pissed me off when i got back home becuz the game was on sale for $39.99 but i also bought ps2 games thinking they might work over here but they didn't but it was ok cuz they only costed about $1 each but when i got home i tried to install a mod chip into my ps2 but i didn't work very well and it broke so now im PS2less o'well atleast i have my handy dandy PSP

by Anonymous Coward - 2006-04-24 14:06
» Ultra Chipper Man!

I went there a few months ago and I went to one of those places. In greenhills, they have a mall dedicated to electronics goods. I was planning on buying an HDloader DVD but they are more expensive over there than they are online.



I was watching one of the guys chip a slimline PS2 and was he fast!!!! He was able to chip that thing in about 10 minutes flat. It may sound a bit tame to you, but if youve ever seen the size of the solder points for the chips. You'll soil yourself. I was especially impressed to the fact that he was able to hold a conversation with me while he was doing it.



But yeah, pirating in asian countries isnt a new thing. People dont wanna buy the PSP over cause the games are so god damn expensive. Theyre about 60-80 dollars a pop depending on what game it is....



Hope you had fun on your trip.

by Anonymous Coward - 2006-04-24 22:28
» Love it

love it!! same here in thailand

games for 2 USD really love it

by Anonymous Coward - 2006-04-25 02:18
» AWWWW....

I really wish it was like that here in the US...... but then again, theres always the flea market...(;

by Anonymous Coward - 2006-04-25 20:34
» pinoy ako

nocomment

by Anonymous Coward - 2006-04-26 14:43
» economics

for those asking 'why not download the ISOs for themselves' instead of paying someone to do it for them. well clearly, you haven't been to third world countries. let me educate you, not everyone owns a PC in those countries, and for that matter, those who own a PC may not necessarily have high speed internet connection to download.



i remember chatting with someone who downloads naruto episodes with a dial up connection!



and piracy is all over the world, even in rich countries. here in toronto, canada. we have it...so those dreaming of going to asian countries for piracy purposes, just go to toronto (in the chinese community that is, China Town and Pacific Mall!)

by Psicryptor - 2006-04-28 05:39
» Sony needs a reality check!

if Sony sold games at $20-$30 range believe me i'd buy every game i'd wanna buy. Instead, we have to shell out 50 pops a game which you dont really know if you'll end up liking. If Sony really wanted to end piracy and increase the popularity of the PSP they would cut prices for games rather than the console itself. The steep price not only makes the games unaffordable but also pisses people off to the extent of playing ISOs. My 2 cents!

by anonymous - 2006-04-30 02:37
» i have iso games in my psp

i have 2 games in my memory sticks, burnout legends and coded arms. burnout legends is about 500 mb in size and coded arms is roughly about 165 mb.

i can play my iso in a loader; you can play also umd games without upgrading it in loaders

(for example, i can play nba in version 1.50 wihout upgrading it to 1.52). i also downgrade my psp thrice (2.00-1.50). and oh im only 14 years old

by Anonymous Coward - 2006-04-30 04:52
» Half of you are crazy

Okay, lets get to the root of the problem, people are stealing other people's property and work. Is stealing legal, I think not, so why do you people try to justify it? If i went into a store and stole a PSP and said, 'oh its too expensive, thats why and you should let me steal it because I'm poor' do you think they would let it slide. Probably not, so don't kid yourself and say stealing software is any better.

by dude - 2006-04-30 17:07
» dude

hey i dont see wy so many peole pirate umd becuase most of the games on the psp suck anywayz . psp is all about arbitrary code being ran!

by evolution - 2006-05-01 11:30
» Piracy is getting outta hands

Wow... its amazing that the government dosent do crap about the situation... I mean, if you really want to play the game... why don't you actually go and buy the actual game... I knwo it is probably quite costly... but really, if you want great games, you gotta give the companies the money they need to develop it.... and why are people like poster #180 being so proud of themselves when technically they are theives?

by Jozz2006 - 2006-05-02 23:40
» Freedom for Piracy

Who care's about piracy there are more import things to worry about like teenage kids thinking they are gods by beating prople up and killing people *****s.

by PINAS BOY - 2006-05-05 11:58
» Im from the philippines and I know what he is talking about

That mall is situated in san juan, the name of the mall is vira mall in green hills, this is kinda east from the city of Manila. I love piracy, its very cheap, thats why I have tons of PS2 and xbox games that I buy in vira mall in green hills.

by owjm - 2006-05-06 02:41
» ...

wut like here in puerto rico be something like that

well at least i dont know

by jotech - 2006-05-14 23:57
» whose fault?

piracy or not, who's to blame? i agree with poster#179, if only sony or any other game producers lowers the price for their products, why sort to pirated ones? i'm from the philippines, and not only on this country you can find tons of pirated products. i've been to macau, hongkong,and other asian countries, they also have this problem. local music industry producers lowers the prices of their cd's in order to cut music piracy and it turns out positively for them. why can't this multi-million dollar company follow?

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by annoyed - 2006-06-01 22:07
» meh ....

Hey person who posted #7



ok well u talk about the prices being too high u want to know why ? It is because of pirated stuff because game devleopers know its going on and they try to stop it costing money and well a later relase date lol



for those saying its good for the poor people who cant afford games ...wtf lol they baught the system they should know the prices and as i said thats causeing the overall price of the game to go up so thats a really dumb thing to say-.-







(also whats the deal with you guys talking about the us and irac and us stealing the oil IF YOU HAVENT HERD THE PRICES ARE CRAZY HERE WE ARNT STEALING IT OR ELSE IT WOULD BE CHEAPER like pirated games lol )

by annoyed - 2006-06-01 22:09
» edit :O

and thats 73 not 7 XD

by Pinoy Big Brother - 2006-07-05 16:29
» Mabuhay ang Pinas

Ello sa mga kabayan diyan



In my point of view, Piracy is also good, because you can test out first the game, and if you like the game you can buy the original one. I have 4 original PSP game titles, and its ISO. And im gonna try out another ISO game, and if i find it a good one i'll try to save again some money and bought the original one. It's kinda pain in the ass if you buy a Php3,000 ($30) game and you find it sucking and you dont enjoy the game play. Also it protects your original UMD being overuse or scratches.



I also do this on CD Albums, download the MP3 of the album and if you enjoy the Album buy it

by Phidol - 2006-07-22 19:17
» Piracy kabayan???

talking about piracy...well...some peeps who gave coment that this does not happen in the Philiippines only are 100% correct...so what i can say is "MAY TAMA KA!!!" i am currently here in saudi arabia and man...piracy is also scatered here...they also now downgrade 2.5/2.6 psp and charging SR100.. about $27.59 to be exact. so lets not just point our fingers to one country. piracy is piracy...and this will never be flushed out in any part of the globe...not unless this giant companies drop their prices, which i know they cant coz of the cost to produce or manufacture their products. but look at the DVDs before it cost around P1,000+ in Philippines, but when piracy was realy out of hand....they drop the prices...so now many peeps prefer to buy the legit one rather than pirated...quality wise ofcorz!!!



dats it!!! so pro piracy or not... no one can get rid of this pirates...remember this has been in the world ever since. shiver me timbers...hark-hark-hark!!!



shukran gazilan!!!masal ama sadik!!!

by JackTheQuack - 2006-08-09 07:34
» the good the bad and the ugly

piracy is like prometheus giving fire to the mortals.

by jeff - 2006-08-13 03:21
» piracy?????

where does the businessman get the iso's?

in THE INTERNET right so we are all pirates sometimes????

by freakbomb - 2006-08-21 04:10
» homeboy

well thats how we do it in the Philippines. FYI 2.xx+ fw can now be downgraded here. for details.

by [PHILIPPINES]Grimrist - 2006-09-09 21:20
» Piracy is too good to let anyone know it...

I wanted an PSP so I got one, I downloaded anything related softwares

and burn it then intall it on my PC. here in the Phillipines, our pay slip just too ***** to spend on original games, come on you can pay it to live come on! If we have better government say USA then we can afford, thank God i can appord to buy^^

by psp piracy..... - 2006-09-17 14:45
» nice

wow it is really true huh. great guess i'll buy a psp

by STI player - 2006-09-17 14:55
» Piracy..............

its really sad to hear that there is psp piracy already here but you know guys hear in the philippines only the rich ones can buy original copies and other tend to buy pirated cds simply because its so damn EXPENSIVE!!

by anonymous - 2006-09-26 21:04
» nice translations..

Geez man, most of you keep on talkin in filipino, most dont understand. nice translations by the way. hehe! By the way it won't be a surprise if qj editors understand what the hell you are talkin about since they have an office in the philippines. Makati to be exact. My friend works there.



@#91

man, you're so proud that you have this and that, that you've got a skyline, that you've got 3 psps, well that's really not a surprise, given the fact THAT YOU OWN A SALON which is probably FLOCKING WITH *****GOTS that fund your expenses. You think you're cool huh? NOT! Bading!

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