PSP and DS Games - It's More Than Just the Numbers |
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How expensive is it to develop a game for a game platform?
- Last year in Japan, the average cost to develop a game for the Sony PS2 is $1.2 million.
- For the Sony PSP, it's only $541,000.
- But for the Nintendo DS, the average cost is a measly $342,000.
- The PSP came out and sold for about $250 ($249 or so), while the DS came out at $149 or so.
- New games for the PSP cost around $50. New games cost about $35 for the Nintendo DS.
- Nowadays, you can find bargain bundles. A PSP bundled with a game (usually a "not-so-popular" game) can go for around $199. But a DS bargain bundle goes for about $149.
But the PSP is a powerful multimedia device. It's a technological heavyweight. Those strengths will help explain these facts:
- Last year, Nintendo exported only 7.34 million DS units while Sony exported more: 11.36 million PSP units.
- Within Japan, Nintendo did amazingly well: Nintendo sold 4.25 million DS and DS Lite units. Sony sold 2.61 million PSP units in Japan last year.
Is this important? Well actually. I don't care about it one bit. Why? Because all this talk of "PSP pwns Nintendo DS sucks" and "PSP suxxorz LOL bye" doesn't change the important things. Gaming is on the rise. This is according to a report released by the Computer Entertainment Supplier's Association or CESA (it makes a report every year about the state of the Japanese console game industry; the sales figures in this article came from their report).
Total worldwide gaming sales (both hardware and software) have grown since 2004 because of the DS and PSP. They resurrected the dying handheld market, and in the process, they rekindled interest in gaming (for example, people who would never have bought a console found it easier to buy the affordable handheld units, and now that they realize how much fun they're having, they're waiting for the next-gen consoles).
So, after all the spamwars and flamewars and all the forum hating, both the DS and the PSP are to be thanked for this healthy upsurge in gaming sales. This is a sign that we should all hold hands. Can't we all just get along?
Via Gamespot
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good for both handhelds, but i want more original titles or atleast total revamps instead of ports for the psp and the ds could use some classic n64 ports to it like turok 2, jet force gemini i mean they could add more creativity to them instead of a direct port but come on or even pod racer ep 1 O.O xD.
but its good to see that da platforms r doing fine anyways o.O
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You can't expect me to believe you are mature enough to handle a game like GTA, if you resort to 5 year old thinking on the "PSP vs NDS" debate.
Now what we have is Fact's and facts is, that the NDS and PSP are doing very well, and reigniting the intrest in handheld gaming. Congratulations Nintendo and Sony.
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The DS is pretty cool too, I might get one eventually.
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now my take on this discussion, well both systems are good, and when I decided to buy my PSP I bought it because the games appealed more to me than the DS did, am not syaing DS is bad, but what I am syaing is everyone has a different taste, in the end we all win I that know sounds very lame, but when this makes both Nintendo and Sony work even harder to pleas it's customers.
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know back to our happy and mature discussion ;)
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(* For the Sony PSP, it's only $541,000)
I don't know about this fact of course a new game may cost approximately $541,000. Why don't you post how much money Sony actually spends on the other games (PORTS) maybe less, way less money than the $342,000 Nintendo spends on new games. Let's face it there is a big percentage of PORTS on the PSP, not only that but Sony still has the nerves of not releasing new games for the PSP for weeks, but well I hope they do good with their supersmall library of PORTS, their superexpensive/superlimited UMD's and their superstupid firmware upgrades.
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Both consoles have done really well because they target different audiences, and that's a good thing. Wii and PS360 also target waaay different people. In the end that just means that it is more likely for anyone to find a system that they like and that has games/other usage that they find useful or cool.
It is also good that they have expanded the handheld marketshare, because mobility is the future.
It is highly likely for someone to prefer either system in the end when they pinpoint their own taste and needs. I selected DS for the games that I like a lot, it's simply my gaming system. Then again I also haven't sold my 1,5 FW PSP (yet), because I like the pure geeking with techical stuff^^ I can't find the movies etc. to be of any use to me as I have a MacBook for those.
Crap, it turned out to be a hardware comparsion after all! Both won the iNF-Reward. Gratz for teh loot.
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XD
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Moron, I copy pasta'd the short description from the article. I'm no Nintendo fan boy, I own mostly Sony consoles. The only reason I'm sticking to Sony is because of JRPG's, I dislike Sony as a company.
@ 12, yes devhook is awesome and is the only thing keeping me from selling my psp, but please admit the Sony FW upgrading crap is bull*****. Especially with the latest firmware 2.8 and how it collects our personal info.
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this is exactly like psp and nds.
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Big example is philips cdi.
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The same thing with no doubt happen with the PS3 and Wii. The Wii will be dirt cheap while the PS3 will be expensive as hell, all because of Sony's insistence on making machines which can do 'everything'. A year ago people were laughing at Nintendo and already counting them out of the next-gen console wars, and now they're seen as a major competitor. Sony's got a lot to learn, especially if they screw up with the PS3...
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Excuse me, but I have both the DS and the PSP, and I like both. At one moment I play mostly on my PSP, but the other moment it's my DS.
If you have a 1.5 FW PSP, and a flashcard for your DS, they're just the same. Great systems with great games. One system may have a few more better games than the other, but WHO CARES?
I enjoy DS games more. But I do enjoy the massive amount of homebrew the PSP lets me use. Not even beginning about the emulators for the NES and SNES. Altough these days that can be done with the DS as well.
If ANYONE makes a comment about which one is better, I will murder them. They're both great gaming machines which are succesfull, one more than the other. Who cares, just play the damn thing. As long as YOU like it.
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It was basically the same power wise as the other consoles, except it had a stupid 1.4gig disc
The obvious main difference now is that the Wii has the wiimote control (which Sony blatantly ripped off and tacked on just before E3). Lets not forget that the Sony PS3 controller WILL NOT HAVE DUALSHOCK. I mean come on, no rumble? that's pathetic, and it's all because of their dualshock lawsuit.
Anyway, one of the main strengths of the wiimote is that no one can rip off their ideas, much like many of the DS games so far, since they're so reliant on the control system.
I think the Wii has the greatest potential to reach out to new gamers and have great mainstream appeal to people who don't want to use a seemingly complicated controller with 10 different buttons ala PS2/X360. Think of why The Sims is the highest selling game of all time and you'll understand..
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I wanted to buy a DS first but I bought a PSP instead because there were certain games that I really wanted so bad. But I'm going to buy a DS for sure because it have alot of great games that I really want. Does DS have alot of more games that might be better? Maybe. But if you are a true gamer then you will buy both of them (that's if you want to play certain games on them or have any other reason.)
Come on, how many of us said "Sega VS Nintendo" before? Not many.
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Simple: Both are great systems.
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Nintendo = Apple Macintosh
Sony = Microsoft.
finally, the argument makes sense now!
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But I don't have a PSP. Personally, I really don't know what people do with their PSPs. I mean, I'm not gonna watch a movie on that small @$$ screen, no matter the resolution. And personally, I don't know WHAT to choose from all the ports. A lot of the time, the PSP seems like a machine that does things that you might as well do on other hardware. Play the ports on the original machine. Watch the movies on a real TV. Listen to your music with your iPod. They all do their respective jobs better than one machine that does them all half-assedly.
I haven't really played the NDS too much either though. Castlevania: Dawn of Sorrow kinda dissappointed me, and Prime Hunters just proves itself to be a very underdeveloped game each time I play it.
Soo... Whatever.
Just switch to whatever you want.
linux.
linux.
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that's like saying the ps2 is dead even though the gba sells on the same level...
i can understand if you said the xbox and gamecube since both those systems didn't touch the n64 in terms of overall sales.
psp has yet to outsell any gameboy line...
but it has sold better than the gamecube,xbox and xbox360.
so ounce again the handhelds save the gaming undustry during a transition period.
just last time the world got pokemon,this time we got nothing that stands out above and beyond everything else
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Now its truly a sweet system! man this thing rocks.
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In 10 years time ex-ds owners will be like:
Guy A: "hey remember Phoenix Wright on the DS, XD that was awesome".
Guy B: "XD it wasn't as good as that Pokemon game, my team totally slaughtered you!".
Guy A: "No way! Ah well, good times...".
Meanwhile ex-psp owners will be like:
Guy A: "Remember Valkyrie Profile on the psp! That was insane!"
Guy B: "Um no, that was a port"
Guy A: "Uh.. well remember Gitaroo Man? That WAS insane!"
Guy B: "Um no, that was a port too"
Guy A: "Well remember how we used to watch and play movies on our PSP! No wait, that wasn't memorable at all.."
Guy B: "Yeah who cares, the PSP5 Core has way better graphics, and double CPU memory expansions, and Memory sticks, friggin nintedo noobs, they cant even play 6th gen core games with accelerated real time graphics with blah blah etc etc etc."
lol, you guys wouldn't know the joys of a game if it smacked you head on in the face at 754 miles an hour in an enclosed elevator.
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LOL
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How do u figure that someone wouldnt know the joy of a game. If they find it joyfull than thats what it is you jackkass. It doesnt matter if its a port.
Nintendo Loser A: Hey remember mario party 1,2,3,4,5,6,7 and soon 8?"
Ninteno Loser B: yeah dude, remember how mario party stayed 50 dollars for 4 years?
Nintendo Loser A: Yeah dude, thats what its like with all Nintendo games.
Nintendo Loser B. Hey dude, Mario Basketball is coming out for DS.
Nintendo Loser A. Sweet, but I would rather have Mario Soccer. But I heard its not as good as mario baseball, or mario kart, or mario golf, and we cant forget mario tennis.
Nintendo Loser B. Dont you get sick of playing the same games with the same characters?
Nintendo Loser A. Not at all, thats why were Nintendo fans cause were annoying immature grown men who would defend that pokemon isnt for children.
at least Sonys Ports are diffrent and not the same f**king thing with the same damn characters. And at least they dont take there star characters and throw them in random sports games. nintendo sucks the end.
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Nintendo Loser C: Dude did u hear about the new Nintendo Us coming out in 2010? You can attach it to youre foot and it knows when youre walking.
What the hell is the purpose of having a Wii controller? Sure it sounds great but with the programmers for Nintendo how the hell are you going to make it cool? So you can pick Pikmin? I think a gun fight would be cool but noooo cause that would be rated M and Nintendo wont have that.
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As for the Wii, if you continue to throw insults at it it only proves how little you know.
Also, Nintendo makes first party M games, actually I'm pretty sure Nintendo has more 1st party M games, or 1st party published M rated games then Sony.
Geist and Eternal Darkness come to mind for Nintendo gamecube only, as for sony, an M rated 1st party game, Twisted metal, and God of War, spanning both PS1 and 2. I named one Nintendo console and came up with the same number as Sony's consoles career.
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DS = Fun/entertainment
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And at first the wii controller seemed dodgy, but the fact is at least Nintendo are trying out different things. Unlike friggin copying ideas off other companies unlike *ahem sony*. I wouldn't be suprised if Sony suddenly announced a Sony remote that was shaped just like the wii's one. Then you'd all be like "um sony thats a great idea!!". Go back to your GIANT ENEMY CRABS.
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As a developer, I prefer the PSP because of its endless homebrew capabilities.
As a gamer..Phoenix Wright, Trauma Center, Valkryie Profile, and Loco Roco are just *****ing fun to play.
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And dont tell me psp is full of ports... cos if you think the top games including Syphon Filter, Daxter, Miami Vice, LocoRoco, Lumines, Field Commander, MG ACID 1 &2, Pursuit Force, Exit, Infected and Coded Arms are ports... you are RETARDED
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FF7 is the greatest example of a game that looks kidish...
big heads,oversized weapons,a variety of monsters...
kinda like pokemon...
ff7 had the same style as megaman powered up
but somehow when square moved to ps1 it became a mature title
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Not ports but far from a great selection. But DS games all suck too.
1.5 PSP > DS
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Peace
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The fact is that.....PEOPLE CHOOSE FUN OVER GRAPHICS when they want a handheld console!
DS is litteraly KILLING the PSP! When a PSP is sold, 4 DS's are sold!
And as for a person in here wh said " they only choose DS because its cheap.." Think again buddy, PS2 was more expensive than GameCube and PS1 was more expensive than N64! Bothe PS's sold more than the Nintendo consoles. So your excuse for the PSP sales is invalid! Try again when you are smarter!
See ya !
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Eff nintendo and their childish games. DS is beating PSP but those sales are still not paying up for the failures of the last 2 consoles they had.
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WHY EVERY SINGLE ONE OF YOU EXPECT NINTENDO TO RELEASE GAMES THAT TAILOR TO YOUR SELFISH SELVES.
Nintendo makes good games. I'll even go as far as to say Nintendo makes GREAT games. Games in the Mario franchise don't just sell well because they have MARIO attached to it, they're also acclaimed because THEY'RE GOOD GAMES.
And Nintendo will KEEP releases their flagship franchises as long as they can still make 'em well. If you've forgotten, they have to take care of Mario, Zelda, Metroid, along with second party games like Pokemon, Kirby, Donkey Kong, and that's quite a bit of franchises to take care of. Most companies are known for THEIR OWN respective franchises (Konami - Castlevania, Metal Gear; Capcom - Resident Evil, Megaman; Square-Enix - Final Fantasy) and Nintendo is no different, yet people CONSTANTLY plead Nintendo to release something different.
Why only Nintendo? Why not ask Namco to release something new? Why not ask Konami to release something other than Metal Gear and Castlevania? Oh that's right, they do. AND SO DOES NINTENDO.
Nintendo has no obligation to make games for you selfish bastards. They can be just another hardware manufacturer like Sony and Microsoft. But no, they work their @sses off for you, and all you guys can do is complain.
I know I'm not the only one sick of hearing it from you guys.
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more kids own a ps2 than any other system.
FF7 is the greatest example of a game that looks kidish...
big heads,oversized weapons,a variety of monsters...
kinda like pokemon...
ff7 had the same style as megaman powered up
but somehow when square moved to ps1 it became a mature title
by Square (Unregistered), at Aug 12, 2006 at 05:12PM"
Wait, you're saying that because they put ff7 on the playstation, it become a mature title? How exactly did it become a mature title? Excuse me, but WTF are you talking about?
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The popular DS games are around £30
Most of the PSP games are also £30 with some exceptions at £40.
So if i was going to buy a game i would choose a PSP over a DS because i feel the money i've spent on it is better value than a DS.
I'm 17 and during my early teenage life i couldn't afford a PS2, Gamecube or Xbox and i missed out on that generation, i then got a job and then was able to buy a PSP. For me, it's features were great because i could have the gaming experience of the 6th gen consoles, the portability and being able to watch movies in my room (yes not every spoilt child has a tv in their room) The PSP and DS is like 6.5th gen because it enhances the gaming of 6th gen consoles by making it portable and making wireless a popular form of gaming.
If you appreciate what the PSP can do, you know pound-for-pound that it has better value.
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Of the 2 I would say the DS is better.
The PSP is gathering dust whilst the DS is played regularly.
I'm no Nintendo fanboy either.
Just my impartial opinion.
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seriously though about the guy who said that companys only realese only their best franschises like nintendo-mario; konami-MGS
thats not true konami made sword of etheria(aka OZ), Z.O.E
and many other new franchises.so stop making dumb excuses to protect gay nintendo and the only reason ds sells 2x as much as psp is cuz little kids want them for example my uncle got 2 for my two little cusins!!!psps are for 18+ gamers.
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