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PSP and DS Games - It's More Than Just the Numbers

Posted Aug 11, 2006 at 1:18PM EST by QJ Staff

Listed in: News, Opinions & Analysis Tags: CESA, Europe, Japan, PS2, Sony

PSP Nintendo DS

How expensive is it to develop a game for a game platform?

Last year in Japan, the average cost to develop a game for the Sony PS2 is $1.2 million.
For the Sony PSP, it's only $541,000.
But for the Nintendo DS, the average cost is a measly $342,000.

Now compare these numbers with some familiar facts.

The PSP came out and sold for about $250 ($249 or so), while the DS came out at $149 or so.
New games for the PSP cost around $50. New games cost about $35 for the Nintendo DS.
Nowadays, you can find bargain bundles. A PSP bundled with a game (usually a "not-so-popular" game) can go for around $199. But a DS bargain bundle goes for about $149.

In terms of price, it seems like Nintendo is the way to go.

But the PSP is a powerful multimedia device. It's a technological heavyweight. Those strengths will help explain these facts:

Last year, Nintendo exported only 7.34 million DS units while Sony exported more: 11.36 million PSP units.
Within Japan, Nintendo did amazingly well: Nintendo sold 4.25 million DS and DS Lite units. Sony sold 2.61 million PSP units in Japan last year.

Does this mean the Japanese go for price? While the rest of the world (especially the USA and Europe) are more likely to go for expensive technology? Maybe.

Is this important? Well actually. I don't care about it one bit. Why? Because all this talk of "PSP pwns Nintendo DS sucks" and "PSP suxxorz LOL bye" doesn't change the important things. Gaming is on the rise. This is according to a report released by the Computer Entertainment Supplier's Association or CESA (it makes a report every year about the state of the Japanese console game industry; the sales figures in this article came from their report).

Total worldwide gaming sales (both hardware and software) have grown since 2004 because of the DS and PSP. They resurrected the dying handheld market, and in the process, they rekindled interest in gaming (for example, people who would never have bought a console found it easier to buy the affordable handheld units, and now that they realize how much fun they're having, they're waiting for the next-gen consoles).

So, after all the spamwars and flamewars and all the forum hating, both the DS and the PSP are to be thanked for this healthy upsurge in gaming sales. This is a sign that we should all hold hands. Can't we all just get along?

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i dont know about these facts "dying handheld market" im pretty should a few reports down from this one it said the GBA is still selling... I dont see how the handhelds are dying. The only one that did really really bad was the n gage because of bad marketing and pricing.... They where dieing when Nomad, gamegear, Lynx but its changed alot since then i think that handhelds are doing every thing but dying...

# fans — Guest 2006-08-11 17:57

You'll always get the die hards that will say that whatever system is dead, etc.. I see it all the time on gaf, they seem to attract the most nintendo fans I've ever seen.. one bad word about the ds and its flame on... all I can say is, when I look at anything, I check the specs out, the price and I buy what I think is the best, not last year's turd :) some people are happy to pay less for last year's turd, not me.. I go with the male stereotype... power, sexy and well built. It might cost an extra $80, but its sure worth it.

# i don't care too much for specs — Guest 2006-08-11 18:15

i just want games.

good for both handhelds, but i want more original titles or atleast total revamps instead of ports for the psp and the ds could use some classic n64 ports to it like turok 2, jet force gemini i mean they could add more creativity to them instead of a direct port but come on or even pod racer ep 1 O.O xD.

but its good to see that da platforms r doing fine anyways o.O

# psp vs ds — Guest 2006-08-11 18:24

just face it, we all know nintendo ds sucks like ***** and that people only buy it cause they can not afford the better sony psp

# ... — Zector 2006-08-11 18:34

Like the last comment we see here, number 8 proves to be what we have to avoid becoming. Whether one system is better than the other. Is all opinion, and we need to respect Opinions from both sides maturely...

You can't expect me to believe you are mature enough to handle a game like GTA, if you resort to 5 year old thinking on the "PSP vs NDS" debate.

Now what we have is Fact's and facts is, that the NDS and PSP are doing very well, and reigniting the intrest in handheld gaming. Congratulations Nintendo and Sony.

# PSP suxxorz LOL bye — Guest 2006-08-11 18:34

DS is superior. People who say otherwise are just regretting that they spent a million dollars on their PSP and that Sony is treating their customers like crap (eg FIRMWARE).

# # 10 you are a ***** it DOES NOT FREAKEN MATTER IT MATTERS THAT YOU HAVE FUN — tito0096 2006-08-11 18:50

ok so dont be a idiot and lie they are both cool!!!!!

# . — Guest 2006-08-11 18:51

I'm not regretting that I bought my psp. It seems like one of my most worthwhile purchases yet. I like enough games for it to keep me satisfied. Being able to put movies on it is awesome, and all the homebrew available is very useful and fun. The firmware battle doesnt really bother me either. I can play all my games with devhook just fine. video rss isnt big enough for me to care that I'm missing 2.8. If there's no more devhook past 2.7 then I simply won't buy 2.8+ games.

The DS is pretty cool too, I might get one eventually.

# PLEASE STOP NOW.... — Guest 2006-08-11 19:14

DS is so n00bish. wtf are u tryna speak l33t for? U just sound stupid, stop now, especially as that is spose to be coming out of a nintendo fan boys mouth. please sHuT teH hEll Up u silly f00.

# Retards — Guest 2006-08-11 19:32

Funny how I am always being handed sympathy from DS owners, who are often half my age, for me having bought a PSP. News flash: I'm 100% happy with the PSP! I've tried some games out on the DS and guess what... I. Don't. Like. It. If you like the DS, go play with yourself in private rather than out in places where it isn't welcome nor justified.

# Wow I am impressed — Guest 2006-08-11 19:38

you know, am really impressed that this is one of the most mature comments I have ever read in this site, no flaming no crap, every one talks with some point in minde while respecting the other side, hope it stays this way because it improves the moral of everyone.

now my take on this discussion, well both systems are good, and when I decided to buy my PSP I bought it because the games appealed more to me than the DS did, am not syaing DS is bad, but what I am syaing is everyone has a different taste, in the end we all win I that know sounds very lame, but when this makes both Nintendo and Sony work even harder to pleas it's customers.

# @13 @14 — Guest 2006-08-11 19:42

shut the hell up, your comment r as useless as not being there, so if you got somthing good then say it other wise SHUT UP damn it....

know back to our happy and mature discussion ;)

# Guest 2006-08-11 19:45

How expensive is it to develop a game for a game platform?

(* For the Sony PSP, it's only $541,000)

I don't know about this fact of course a new game may cost approximately $541,000. Why don't you post how much money Sony actually spends on the other games (PORTS) maybe less, way less money than the $342,000 Nintendo spends on new games. Let's face it there is a big percentage of PORTS on the PSP, not only that but Sony still has the nerves of not releasing new games for the PSP for weeks, but well I hope they do good with their supersmall library of PORTS, their superexpensive/superlimited UMD's and their superstupid firmware upgrades.

# Guest 2006-08-11 19:52

Well I think thats its great how both the DS and PSP are doing, I bought a PSP, but not because I didnt like the DS but because the the DS games didn't interest me at the time, now with games like Final Fantasy III, I'm thinking about buying a DS, to me is all about the games.

# Um... yeah. — Guest 2006-08-11 19:58

I was gonna say the same thing as #4.

# Agree — Guest 2006-08-11 20:00

I bought both systems when I could (ok so I had to buy a used PSP because it was so god damn pricey in Europe, students aren't rich around here) and for the moment I happen to find PSP often collecting dust on my desk, but I still know many guys who totally prefer it over DS for reason you all have heard from flamers. To the point:

Both consoles have done really well because they target different audiences, and that's a good thing. Wii and PS360 also target waaay different people. In the end that just means that it is more likely for anyone to find a system that they like and that has games/other usage that they find useful or cool.

It is also good that they have expanded the handheld marketshare, because mobility is the future.

It is highly likely for someone to prefer either system in the end when they pinpoint their own taste and needs. I selected DS for the games that I like a lot, it's simply my gaming system. Then again I also haven't sold my 1,5 FW PSP (yet), because I like the pure geeking with techical stuff^^ I can't find the movies etc. to be of any use to me as I have a MacBook for those.

Crap, it turned out to be a hardware comparsion after all! Both won the iNF-Reward. Gratz for teh loot.

# yipie yipe — Guest 2006-08-11 20:04

lest all hold hands and sing now

XD

# One Good, the other Better, but both are Great — Guest 2006-08-11 20:33

I must agree. Both portable consoles are great. I have 2 PSPs and 1 DS lite, so I'm new to the whole DS gaming platform. As an adult, I've been leaning more towards Sony, but with some of the newer innovations from Nintendo, I had to take notice. I think I associated (and still kind of do associate) Nintendo with "kids stuff" and the Sony with the Grown up gamer. The truth is, as the article implies, they are both great handheld units to own and enjoy.

# @ 13 — Guest 2006-08-11 20:35

"DS is so n00bish. wtf are u tryna speak l33t for? U just sound stupid, stop now, especially as that is spose to be coming out of a nintendo fan boys mouth. please sHuT teH hEll Up u silly f00."

Moron, I copy pasta'd the short description from the article. I'm no Nintendo fan boy, I own mostly Sony consoles. The only reason I'm sticking to Sony is because of JRPG's, I dislike Sony as a company.

@ 12, yes devhook is awesome and is the only thing keeping me from selling my psp, but please admit the Sony FW upgrading crap is bull*****. Especially with the latest firmware 2.8 and how it collects our personal info.

# sorry:( — Guest 2006-08-11 20:54

sorry but im not holding hands with anyone in this forum! or anyone for that matter

# for americans — Guest 2006-08-11 21:13

imagine you only had pizza hut in your country. how would you satisfy your tasty hamburger apetite? this would suck for all people that like hamburgers, no? fortunately there are hamburger chains. this means that people that like pizza are happy, and people that like hamburgers are happy.

this is exactly like psp and nds.

# it not about the price its about the games.. — Guest 2006-08-11 21:14

Plian and easy, PSP needs more titles bad. Only way it can stay on top is if they get more developpers to consentrate on making big game titles instead of getting movies out. This is what people want, hope sony learns from this.

Big example is philips cdi.

# Ok, I can't lie — Guest 2006-08-11 21:17

At first, when I barely got my PSP (and a few months into it), I was a hardcore PSP fan. I'd be like those fanboys who would just say that PSP owns DS and that DS sucks cuz PSP has all the features and stuff. I'd even persuade my friends to rather get a PSP. But now, after a while in the PSP market, I've seen that the PSP's getting more horrible. Direct ports, more on multimedia than gaming, etc. And have now come to the point where I ALSO want a DS (Lite). Now, I'm not saying that the PSP sucks and that (now) the DS owns, I'm just saying that I didn't give enough time for the DS and now I've come to like BOTH handhelds. So yeah, don't hate on one handheld and like on the other, let's just all thank BOTH of them for letting us experience something new with handhelds and getting more people into the gaming industry.

# Bah PSP is a crap gaming machine — Guest 2006-08-11 21:43

As a gaming machine with ORIGINAL titles, original IP's, the PSP pretty much sucks compared to the DS. Combined with its price, it's not surprising that it's getting it's butt kicked by Nintendo.

The same thing with no doubt happen with the PS3 and Wii. The Wii will be dirt cheap while the PS3 will be expensive as hell, all because of Sony's insistence on making machines which can do 'everything'. A year ago people were laughing at Nintendo and already counting them out of the next-gen console wars, and now they're seen as a major competitor. Sony's got a lot to learn, especially if they screw up with the PS3...

# God it's STILL going on — Guest 2006-08-11 21:48

What did the guy just ask? If we could get along. What are people doing? Whining which system is better.

Excuse me, but I have both the DS and the PSP, and I like both. At one moment I play mostly on my PSP, but the other moment it's my DS.

If you have a 1.5 FW PSP, and a flashcard for your DS, they're just the same. Great systems with great games. One system may have a few more better games than the other, but WHO CARES?

I enjoy DS games more. But I do enjoy the massive amount of homebrew the PSP lets me use. Not even beginning about the emulators for the NES and SNES. Altough these days that can be done with the DS as well.

If ANYONE makes a comment about which one is better, I will murder them. They're both great gaming machines which are succesfull, one more than the other. Who cares, just play the damn thing. As long as YOU like it.

# oh dear.. — Guest 2006-08-11 22:05

gabe, I hope you're not implying that the wii will be succesfull judging by nintendos previous console, the gamecube. that system was so gimped it's not even funny. even the damn xbox outsold it in the US. when ps2 came out everyone was *****ing and moaning about the price, but you know what sony came through with the content, and now the ps2 is the most popular console. the same thing will happen with the psp, and the ps3. nintendo needs to get out of the console market and just stick to their gameboys.

# Guest 2006-08-11 22:18

PSP pwns Nintendo DS sucks

# Gamecube was a failure — Guest 2006-08-11 22:23

Nope, I agree the Gamecube was a failure.

It was basically the same power wise as the other consoles, except it had a stupid 1.4gig disc

The obvious main difference now is that the Wii has the wiimote control (which Sony blatantly ripped off and tacked on just before E3). Lets not forget that the Sony PS3 controller WILL NOT HAVE DUALSHOCK. I mean come on, no rumble? that's pathetic, and it's all because of their dualshock lawsuit.

Anyway, one of the main strengths of the wiimote is that no one can rip off their ideas, much like many of the DS games so far, since they're so reliant on the control system.

I think the Wii has the greatest potential to reach out to new gamers and have great mainstream appeal to people who don't want to use a seemingly complicated controller with 10 different buttons ala PS2/X360. Think of why The Sims is the highest selling game of all time and you'll understand..

# Who is really buying the ds — Guest 2006-08-11 23:30

hey there,lets just take a view of the people who actually buy the nintendo ds,when i go down the street,the only people that have a ds are women and little children,ive only seen 4 people over 13 with a ds,and they were,very imature,as long as people keep popping out children,ninten do will keep living on,the psp is meant for those who look at technical specifications, and the ds just pops up and says "hey look at me,i have games!!!" if you're not a nerd,you wouldnt understand what the psp is fully capable of,and its deep,rich gameplay,sure,d s has a touch screen,but the psp has a massive one,chew on that,nintendork s!

# LOL! Wha a goddamn waste of money! — Guest 2006-08-11 23:39

Hmm what a waste of $342,000 it was to create that crappy stupid port of NFS2. It was an awful game, all blocky and really did highlight the not-so-superior graphic rendering of your little NDS.

# The... — Guest 2006-08-11 23:51

majority of us people buy a console or a handheld console for the games. If a console have games we want, we buy that console because we want to play the games. While the console could be considered as an important role when you purchase something the most important thing are the games and the game support for the console.

I wanted to buy a DS first but I bought a PSP instead because there were certain games that I really wanted so bad. But I'm going to buy a DS for sure because it have alot of great games that I really want. Does DS have alot of more games that might be better? Maybe. But if you are a true gamer then you will buy both of them (that's if you want to play certain games on them or have any other reason.)

Come on, how many of us said "Sega VS Nintendo" before? Not many.

# #33 — Guest 2006-08-11 23:55

You do realize that if Nintendo would return to what it was like during it's golden years then.....well I guess you can figure out the rest.

Simple: Both are great systems.

# Mac VS Microsoft — Guest 2006-08-11 23:58

lets just replace some words in these posts...

Nintendo = Apple Macintosh

Sony = Microsoft.

finally, the argument makes sense now!

# I LOVE FAT CHICKS — Guest 2006-08-12 00:04

oh come on you guys,the nintendo ds is sooooo more better than the psp,lol,laugh out loud!!!!!!!!!!! !!!! hihihihihihihih ihihihiiii,im gay,and i love fat people,thats why touching is so good,lol,I LOVE PINK DS

# Wha...? — Guest 2006-08-12 00:35

Ok, you know what, I like the PSPs design loads better than the DS. I like it's specs too. It's kinda fat for me, but hey, just slip it in yer pocket.

But I don't have a PSP. Personally, I really don't know what people do with their PSPs. I mean, I'm not gonna watch a movie on that small @$$ screen, no matter the resolution. And personally, I don't know WHAT to choose from all the ports. A lot of the time, the PSP seems like a machine that does things that you might as well do on other hardware. Play the ports on the original machine. Watch the movies on a real TV. Listen to your music with your iPod. They all do their respective jobs better than one machine that does them all half-assedly.

I haven't really played the NDS too much either though. Castlevania: Dawn of Sorrow kinda dissappointed me, and Prime Hunters just proves itself to be a very underdeveloped game each time I play it.

Soo... Whatever.

Just switch to whatever you want.

linux.

linux.

# - — Guest 2006-08-12 01:13

PSP games aren't that great. But I do get alot of use out of it for homebrew, while enjoying games like Phoenix Wright and Castlevania on the DS. I like them both. What's the point of a gamer dedicating themself to just one of them? They're practically *****ing toys. I plan on buying all three next-gen systems, too. The best of all worlds. Fanboys are *****ing whiny scum.

# so... — Guest 2006-08-12 01:40

rekindle?

that's like saying the ps2 is dead even though the gba sells on the same level...

i can understand if you said the xbox and gamecube since both those systems didn't touch the n64 in terms of overall sales.

psp has yet to outsell any gameboy line...

but it has sold better than the gamecube,xbox and xbox360.

so ounce again the handhelds save the gaming undustry during a transition period.

just last time the world got pokemon,this time we got nothing that stands out above and beyond everything else

# I somewhat agree... — Guest 2006-08-12 02:17

Both the NDS and PSP are great systems. I know, I own both, and use them both! But seriously, how could you leave the GBA in the dirt like that. Because I personally think that the GBA started the rise in handheld systems. Yes sales may be higher now that the PSP and NDS are out, but why is that? Because of the success of the GBA. How do I know this? Because I own over 200 legit GBA games! I kid you not. Which as, I own less than 30 games between the NDS and PSP. So who saved the handheld? I say the Gameboy Advance!

# but — Guest 2006-08-12 02:58

but new psp games only cost about 40, not 50. only big big names were 50 like madden and GTA.

# and — Guest 2006-08-12 03:01

and the reason that the japanese buy nintendo is because they go for the innovation nintendo brings. they want off-the-wall games, not games that have been made before in a million other ways.

# Guest 2006-08-12 05:07

Before both systems came out i really liked the nintendo ds cause it was cheap and looked like fun. I guess if it wasnt for homebrew that ran this awsome on the psp or all the other programs like psp to gamepad ect and in ocation the free psp games i think the sony psp woudnt have been so cool.

Now its truly a sweet system! man this thing rocks.

# Hmmm... — Guest 2006-08-12 06:48

What disappoints me is the potential the PSP had and was ruined by Sony. It's a good system. But dear god the games are horrible and new features are half-assed. The DS has good games. The DS doesn't need to have extra features like music and video even though with a flash cart. They are very much equal in the media department. The fact that PSP homebrew is more easier on user friendly minds is why the PSP excels in that category. This is just a shame that people feel the need to troll the comments section because they have nothing to do.

# PS3 & PSP are for Graphic whores — Guest 2006-08-12 07:03

Play some real games seriously.

In 10 years time ex-ds owners will be like:

Guy A: "hey remember Phoenix Wright on the DS, XD that was awesome".

Guy B: "XD it wasn't as good as that Pokemon game, my team totally slaughtered you!".

Guy A: "No way! Ah well, good times...".

Meanwhile ex-psp owners will be like:

Guy A: "Remember Valkyrie Profile on the psp! That was insane!"

Guy B: "Um no, that was a port"

Guy A: "Uh.. well remember Gitaroo Man? That WAS insane!"

Guy B: "Um no, that was a port too"

Guy A: "Well remember how we used to watch and play movies on our PSP! No wait, that wasn't memorable at all.."

Guy B: "Yeah who cares, the PSP5 Core has way better graphics, and double CPU memory expansions, and Memory sticks, friggin nintedo noobs, they cant even play 6th gen core games with accelerated real time graphics with blah blah etc etc etc."

lol, you guys wouldn't know the joys of a game if it smacked you head on in the face at 754 miles an hour in an enclosed elevator.

# ds is stupid — Guest 2006-08-12 07:14

ds sucks!!!!

LOL

# all I have to say is... — Guest 2006-08-12 07:19

you get what you pay for.

# I like programming — the_darkside_986 2006-08-12 07:26

I like my PSP because it's easier to do homebrew development than the DS. It's more powerful as well, which is good from a programming stand point. I enjoy programming in C/C++ on any platform, but Windows + Intel gets old after a while. PSP dev is something exciting and new to me. I wouldn't know where to get a flash cart for the DS. I hate ordering crap online.

# ass — Guest 2006-08-12 08:20

u a aitch

# heh — Guest 2006-08-12 08:24

"lol, you guys wouldn't know the joys of a game if it smacked you head on in the face at 754 miles an hour in an enclosed elevator."

How do u figure that someone wouldnt know the joy of a game. If they find it joyfull than thats what it is you jackkass. It doesnt matter if its a port.

Nintendo Loser A: Hey remember mario party 1,2,3,4,5,6,7 and soon 8?"

Ninteno Loser B: yeah dude, remember how mario party stayed 50 dollars for 4 years?

Nintendo Loser A: Yeah dude, thats what its like with all Nintendo games.

Nintendo Loser B. Hey dude, Mario Basketball is coming out for DS.

Nintendo Loser A. Sweet, but I would rather have Mario Soccer. But I heard its not as good as mario baseball, or mario kart, or mario golf, and we cant forget mario tennis.

Nintendo Loser B. Dont you get sick of playing the same games with the same characters?

Nintendo Loser A. Not at all, thats why were Nintendo fans cause were annoying immature grown men who would defend that pokemon isnt for children.

at least Sonys Ports are diffrent and not the same f**king thing with the same damn characters. And at least they dont take there star characters and throw them in random sports games. nintendo sucks the end.

N

# thats funny ^ — Guest 2006-08-12 08:32

u cant forget

Nintendo Loser C: Dude did u hear about the new Nintendo Us coming out in 2010? You can attach it to youre foot and it knows when youre walking.

What the hell is the purpose of having a Wii controller? Sure it sounds great but with the programmers for Nintendo how the hell are you going to make it cool? So you can pick Pikmin? I think a gun fight would be cool but noooo cause that would be rated M and Nintendo wont have that.

# Wanted to add — Blu 2006-08-12 08:43

DS is in the lead in every area but the US, Europe is a hot spot for DS

As for the Wii, if you continue to throw insults at it it only proves how little you know.

Also, Nintendo makes first party M games, actually I'm pretty sure Nintendo has more 1st party M games, or 1st party published M rated games then Sony.

Geist and Eternal Darkness come to mind for Nintendo gamecube only, as for sony, an M rated 1st party game, Twisted metal, and God of War, spanning both PS1 and 2. I named one Nintendo console and came up with the same number as Sony's consoles career.

# Oh...my...f**king...god...... — Guest 2006-08-12 08:44

Oh dear god. You can have guns and blood in a T game. And there has been Nintendo exclusives that are M. Eternal Darkness? Remember? Oh wait.. you guys are too *****ing busy have Ken Kutaragi in the first reacharound. Gain some knowledge because you don't know facts. #52 You are right Sony ports aren't the same. They are half-assed and suck ass.

# Here's how I look at it — Guest 2006-08-12 10:58

PSP = Homebrew, multimedia to me is bs

DS = Fun/entertainment

# no 52. no. — Guest 2006-08-12 11:09

Pokemon is an awesome RPG that allows a ***** load of customization in what characters you can have in your team and what moves they can have, and it's also strategic with all the different types and how you have to balance your movesets to cover each of their weaknesses while trying to make a powerful but still balanced team. Doesn't seem very immature to me.

And at first the wii controller seemed dodgy, but the fact is at least Nintendo are trying out different things. Unlike friggin copying ideas off other companies unlike *ahem sony*. I wouldn't be suprised if Sony suddenly announced a Sony remote that was shaped just like the wii's one. Then you'd all be like "um sony thats a great idea!!". Go back to your GIANT ENEMY CRABS.

# Pokemon — Guest 2006-08-12 12:19

I Agree Pokemon is awesome im 15 and still play it on my psp with Gameboy Emulator I spend more time playing that then anything else on my psp

# This is still going on? — Guest 2006-08-12 12:47

56/Intoxicator nailed it..Fanboys need to get over themselves. What's the problem in buying and appreciating both systems? It sounds better than just defending one due to loyalty towards a *****ty company that doesn't care about you..

As a developer, I prefer the PSP because of its endless homebrew capabilities.

As a gamer..Phoenix Wright, Trauma Center, Valkryie Profile, and Loco Roco are just *****ing fun to play.

# .. — Guest 2006-08-12 12:55

Wow. Posting articles like this on both handhelds' pages. No wonder all the nerdy flame wars around here.

# Guest 2006-08-12 13:06

You dumb *****s, eternal darkness and geist were not even made by nintendo... they were only published by them so don't call them first party games cos in that case FF7 for ps1 would be 1st party too. You say sony only made 2 M rated games..... well what about Siren and Siren 2? Getaway 1 and 2?

And dont tell me psp is full of ports... cos if you think the top games including Syphon Filter, Daxter, Miami Vice, LocoRoco, Lumines, Field Commander, MG ACID 1 &2, Pursuit Force, Exit, Infected and Coded Arms are ports... you are RETARDED

# Final Fantasy — Guest 2006-08-12 13:12

more kids own a ps2 than any other system.

FF7 is the greatest example of a game that looks kidish...

big heads,oversized weapons,a variety of monsters...

kinda like pokemon...

ff7 had the same style as megaman powered up

but somehow when square moved to ps1 it became a mature title

# - — Guest 2006-08-12 13:33

"And dont tell me psp is full of ports... cos if you think the top games including Syphon Filter, Daxter, Miami Vice, LocoRoco, Lumines, Field Commander, MG ACID 1 &2, Pursuit Force, Exit, Infected and Coded Arms are ports... you are RETARDED"

Not ports but far from a great selection. But DS games all suck too.

1.5 PSP > DS

# gb2school nubs — Guest 2006-08-12 13:43

I just wanted to say that this article was horribly written. Horrible grammar and baseless statements like the handheld market dying.

# @39 — Guest 2006-08-12 14:50

Very good point, yet the PSP makes it so you dont have to lug around all 20 or so namco arcade cabinets, the ipod, the portable dvd player, and all the dvd's and cases. Oh wait, let us not forget, on my single 1GB memory stick I also have darksatlkers, street fighter alpha 2, x-men vs street fighter, quake, duke nukem 3d, doom 1 and 2,3 or so albums, a few ISO's (games I own already ;D) and a web browser. now, lets see how we can bring all of those things along with us wherer ever we want too....

# DS has a lot more to offer outside the US — Guest 2006-08-12 15:01

The problem doesn't lie within the DS not having a wide selection of original games, the problem is the fact that Nintendo U.S. isn't bringing them to the U.S. market. True, the DS doesn't have the graphic ability of the PSP, but the touch screen if put to use will bring a lot to gameplay if it is used properly. Here in Japan the DS is HUGE. I had to go to another prefecture (state) just to buy one (they had been completely sold out around my area for almost 3 months). The reason for it's popularity is simple, lots of great (japanese only) games and software. Yes, software. I bought the DS along with an English program for my wife so that she can prepare for the TOEFL when we return to America, it's a great program, along with that she bought cooking software (tells you how to make asian dishes). There is a bunch of different software programs out for it right now and a lot more coming. I also have a Japanese dictionary that I use with it and a game that teaches Kanji and other stuff. As far as games here in Japan there are a ton of great RPG's that will probably never be seen in the U.S. as well as some good fighters, my favorites are the Naruto and Bleach fighters (on par with the PSP versions which I also have). I see the DS as being similar to the Saturn, Dreamcast, and Gamecube (yes I said the Gamecube, its still going strong here and has good games still coming) in the fact that it is a really good system but will fail in the U.S. because Nintendo only seems to focus on the younger crowd there. But I still view the PSP as technologicly superior as a handheld.... It does everything I want and more, but here in Japan the DS is still top notch.

Peace

# So True — Guest 2006-08-12 16:01

Poster 52 is right Nintendo just keeps rehashing the same crap over and over again. Whenever Nintendo gets scared they just call good ol prostituted to no end Mario. Don't even get me started on Zelda. Zelda Twilight Princess is gonna suck. You know it and I know it. It is gonna be Zelda 64 except with better graphics. By the way what is the point of releasing it on both Wii and Gamecube aside from making more money.

# One thing is for certain! — Guest 2006-08-12 16:11

Yeah only one thing! I dont care if PSP is better than the DS or even if it can play anything, or download anything or whatever that piece of crap can do!

The fact is that.....PEOPLE CHOOSE FUN OVER GRAPHICS when they want a handheld console!

DS is litteraly KILLING the PSP! When a PSP is sold, 4 DS's are sold!

And as for a person in here wh said " they only choose DS because its cheap.." Think again buddy, PS2 was more expensive than GameCube and PS1 was more expensive than N64! Bothe PS's sold more than the Nintendo consoles. So your excuse for the PSP sales is invalid! Try again when you are smarter!

See ya !

# once agin — Guest 2006-08-12 16:40

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# once again — Guest 2006-08-12 16:45

PSP's hardware is far superior than the DS's. It can do more *****, and even if the games suck with PSP which they dont you can still do other stuff with it. Unilke the were if the games suck it gathers dust in a closet Nintendo used to make good games. USED to. There games suck, there all the same and wiether you want to admitt it or not their games are indeed childish. No guns and blood does not makes a game good. But a mature storyline does. Not "Oh mario peach has gone missing to fruity banana island were bowser is threating to tickle her. We have to play soccer to save her!"

Eff nintendo and their childish games. DS is beating PSP but those sales are still not paying up for the failures of the last 2 consoles they had.

# You guys never learn — Guest 2006-08-12 17:04

You know what I don't understand?

WHY EVERY SINGLE ONE OF YOU EXPECT NINTENDO TO RELEASE GAMES THAT TAILOR TO YOUR SELFISH SELVES.

Nintendo makes good games. I'll even go as far as to say Nintendo makes GREAT games. Games in the Mario franchise don't just sell well because they have MARIO attached to it, they're also acclaimed because THEY'RE GOOD GAMES.

And Nintendo will KEEP releases their flagship franchises as long as they can still make 'em well. If you've forgotten, they have to take care of Mario, Zelda, Metroid, along with second party games like Pokemon, Kirby, Donkey Kong, and that's quite a bit of franchises to take care of. Most companies are known for THEIR OWN respective franchises (Konami - Castlevania, Metal Gear; Capcom - Resident Evil, Megaman; Square-Enix - Final Fantasy) and Nintendo is no different, yet people CONSTANTLY plead Nintendo to release something different.

Why only Nintendo? Why not ask Namco to release something new? Why not ask Konami to release something other than Metal Gear and Castlevania? Oh that's right, they do. AND SO DOES NINTENDO.

Nintendo has no obligation to make games for you selfish bastards. They can be just another hardware manufacturer like Sony and Microsoft. But no, they work their @sses off for you, and all you guys can do is complain.

I know I'm not the only one sick of hearing it from you guys.

# every freaking time — Guest 2006-08-12 18:05

OH NO A DS PICTURE ON PSP SITE WAUASHUAGAUGUAH UAGUAGUHAUHGAUG AUHUAHUAGUA

# FF7 @ 62 — Guest 2006-08-12 18:52

" 62. » Final Fantasy

more kids own a ps2 than any other system.

FF7 is the greatest example of a game that looks kidish...

big heads,oversized weapons,a variety of monsters...

kinda like pokemon...

ff7 had the same style as megaman powered up

but somehow when square moved to ps1 it became a mature title

by Square (Unregistered), at Aug 12, 2006 at 05:12PM"

Wait, you're saying that because they put ff7 on the playstation, it become a mature title? How exactly did it become a mature title? Excuse me, but WTF are you talking about?

# Lol — Guest 2006-08-12 20:59

*Sits down happy with PSP and DS Lite*

# Guest 2006-08-12 21:57

psp sucks

# In the UK — Guest 2006-08-12 22:09

Many games for the DS and PSP are just as expensive as each other.

The popular DS games are around £30

Most of the PSP games are also £30 with some exceptions at £40.

So if i was going to buy a game i would choose a PSP over a DS because i feel the money i've spent on it is better value than a DS.

I'm 17 and during my early teenage life i couldn't afford a PS2, Gamecube or Xbox and i missed out on that generation, i then got a job and then was able to buy a PSP. For me, it's features were great because i could have the gaming experience of the 6th gen consoles, the portability and being able to watch movies in my room (yes not every spoilt child has a tv in their room) The PSP and DS is like 6.5th gen because it enhances the gaming of 6th gen consoles by making it portable and making wireless a popular form of gaming.

If you appreciate what the PSP can do, you know pound-for-pound that it has better value.

# I have both — Guest 2006-08-13 07:36

I have both the DS and the PSP.

Of the 2 I would say the DS is better.

The PSP is gathering dust whilst the DS is played regularly.

I'm no Nintendo fanboy either.

Just my impartial opinion.

# um — Guest 2006-08-13 09:48

at leats psp can play porn!LOL

seriously though about the guy who said that companys only realese only their best franschises like nintendo-mario; konami-MGS

thats not true konami made sword of etheria(aka OZ), Z.O.E

and many other new franchises.so stop making dumb excuses to protect gay nintendo and the only reason ds sells 2x as much as psp is cuz little kids want them for example my uncle got 2 for my two little cusins!!!psps are for 18+ gamers.

# It's True — Guest 2006-08-16 16:40

Nintendo Sucks Im sick and tired of Mario, Link, and Samus. It's the same games I've been playing since I was born.

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