let's hope they ditch the UMD crap and shift to the more promising SSD (memory cards etc) media. maybe in the meantime introduce a second analog stick, secondary phone function, touchscreen, natively unlocked homebrew capable firmware and more attachments (like a foldable keyboard+stand attachment for use with text editing or organizer software) and PDA manufacturers would have to make a run for their money

The already killed UMD moron.

oops spoke too soon, i see psp in the link.



damn, i just bought my 2000 series too

i hope you realized crisis core was cut 20% because the 1.8gigs of UMD was too small



i also hope you realized that dj max portable and portable 2 was cut because of the 1.8gigs umd limit



if you're rich enough to afford umd games i don't see how you can't afford cheap memory cards costing a fraction, smarty pants

click on [Via PlayStation] at the bottom of the article ;)

shoulda refreshed before i posted rofl

it could just be an April Fools joke made by Sony

It's too early for a PSP2, so it might be another redesign with some more hardware enhancements, who knows. Personally I want them to just stick to the Slim model (psp-2000) and just keep working on making the best possible successor with major updates/changes to really make it worth it.

Sony has made several statements recently that they are still behind the UMD format. They won’t let it die even if everyone else has. The same was true for the MD format. At some point there is a trade off between functionality and coolness. UMDs are cool and esthetically pleasing. A 32 GB memory stick is boring but economical and effective. I think that’s one of Sony's hallmarks… making really cool looking devices that perform pretty well. As shallow as it maybe... coolness is a huge factor in what gets sold. And UMD with all their flaws ...are cool. I suspect UMD’s may get a compression face lift in a few years. Until recently, I had been using the 2003 SPH-N270 Matrix Cell phone. Man, it was the coolest phone on the planet. Everyone would stop in mid-sentence and become totally transfixed on my phone. It couldn’t even send text messages. The coolness of the phone was worth it though. The phone is now obsolete and I can’t use it. Now I have a boring Helio Ocean. :( One day UMD’s will be obsolete… but not for the next seven years.

Uh, false. If it were cut 20% to fit on the disc, that would mean that it takes up the whole disc.



It doesn't. It's only 1.59 GB.

the original japanese release was 1.66GiB (gibibytes, not gigabytes.)



1.66GiB translates to 1699.84KiB and 1740636bytes. the umd holds 1.8GB (equivalent to 1800000bytes, which is essentially just 1.71GiB).



the same reason why a 160GB harddisk shows up as 149GiB in your comp, if you haven't realized it yet



the game was cut during finalization for the japanese locale, and the size was further optimized during localization for the US market

capacity of UMD:

1800000000bytes approx (1.8gigabytes - SI unit)

1757812.5 KiB

1716.6 MiB

1.67 GiB



japanese crisis core:

1787723776bytes (1.78gigabytes - SI unit)

1745824KiB

1704.9 MiB

1.66 GiB



it's only 0.01GiB short from hitting the max capacity of the UMD.

@strongbadunit



the JP release of crisis core does pretty much occupy the entire disc.



the reason why the US release does not occupy the entire UMD is because it's been optimized during the localization for the US market. the Hard Mode does not add much to the size because it's essentially just applying a multiplier (or a formula) to enemy stats



since nothing much new was added to the game and that it was localized and optimized (compressions, fixes, tweaks here and there), you can expect it to be much smaller

It seems a bit odd, who would have the time to fiddle with the URLs constantly, I smell that this is a joke/marketing trick from Sony.



They wanted to see how many views the picture gets, they uploaded it, then they 'leaked' the URL somewhere, and voilà, thousands of people saw it on a PSP news website.

But unlike where you pulled those figures, Sony's R+D dep. isn't located in your rear.



Built in HDD and second analog would be sweet. It'd also be sweet if MS made a 5.6 Ghz dodeca cored Xbox with a physics card and 3D hologram display, but it too is economically infeasible.



Also, to those saying UMDs aren't enough? The DS has one gig-BIT. It seems to do fine. How many cut-scenes does Crisis core have? And how much space do those waste? That's right. A lot.



UMD is simply the best option for portable games; people like having a PHYSICAL game, not everyone has an internet connection to DL full games, and it's incredibly impractical to sell games on mem sticks.

All digital-based games would benefit you 5% of the market greatly, and make the PSP utterly inacessable to the remaining 95%. Priorities, priorities.

Crysis Core is Smaller than Wildarms XF and the CC ISO is 1.58GB (via XP Filesystem check) Wildarms on the other hand is 1.64GB so they cut 20% out ? i think not

this is fake, Playstation.net isnt even the official playstation site.



This is just one big load of BS.

is the reason why i need to type this over and over because you just don't read. yawn

O OK, whatever u say!!!



Didn't really read the link lol



Also why r u mean people thumbsing my comments down!!!!



Mean people, I tell ya

"UMD's WILL NOT BE ENOUGH FOR THE NEXT HANDHELD, THATS A FACT BECAUSE OF THE GRAPHIC UPGRADES!"



if you haven't noticed, the psp has the best handheld graphics known to man. it's pretty much has as good of graphics as the ps2 (if not better). i doubt a better graphics engine can be stuffed into something so small. though a UMD-sized blu ray disc is very plausible.

Follow the URLs on THE OFFICIAL SITE.



http://www.us.playstation.com/Support/PSP/Manuals



now go to English and you will see



http://manuals.playstation.net/document/en/psp/current/index.html



This is official.

i'm not saying that the UMD is not enough for the current PSPs. it's more than a hella enough actually. it's once in a blue moon that a developer is willing to invest in a current-PSP-standard game that would stress the capacity of the UMD, so we need not worry much about 1.66GiBs of capacity



my comment about the ditching of UMDs was referring to future PSP revisions for the next console generation. that, however, does not mean that future PSPs should not have UMD drives. a better way to put it is to have a drive that is compatible with both the current psp UMDs and a new disk standard (bluray minidiscs, for example, or whatever they may have then)



why did i say that? well:



basically, PSP was developed in a time when the 6600GT was king. a time when 1gb ram costs $150 bucks each and pentium 3 and 4 systems were beasts. chips using 130nm fabrication process was the most fearsome things ever and crippled dual core processors costs like an intel c2q6600 now.



when the slim was produced, the specs haven't changed much. by right, the slim should not be costing as much as it is right now. you can pretty much say that the slim is old technology fabricated using new processes.



however, the PSP2 would be in the age of the 26.5nm wafer fabrication by the time it's out. the amount of transistors in chips would have nearly sextupled (6x) for the same cost. we're talking about the age where 60 or more gigabits of graphics bandwidth are on mainstream computers (not to be confused with graphics memory, for those planning to flame me later). where 8800gtx looks like a joke for the price. by that time, the PSP2 would be pretty much crippled by the 1.66GiBs of memory as games would be using much larger textures, models with more polygons, landscapes with more details and so on. the latencies of the UMD would also become a concern for the next generation of games.



as regarding my comment about memory card "softcopy" games: within the next few years, 32gb mspds would pretty much be mainstream (it took 4gb just 5 months to become affordable, and 16gb just got released and 8gb prices are falling like weights). i agree with you that it's impractical to phase out all forms of physical hardcopy games, but it would be a good idea to provide a secondary method of "downloaded" purchasing at a lower price. the same concept as the direct2drive.

i had always had the impression that the next psp on the shelves would be a next gen instead of a simple remake and resize actually.



they've already resized the psp once i doubt they're gonna do it again or they'll look like they're just blatantly coming up with new ways to milk the sh1t out of the market with 5 year old hardware hidden in new shells. people will just get pissed off



and if they actually release a new psp this year or somewhere next year i'd get pissed off too rofl



well actually i dont think anything we say would make much of a difference anyway. thanks alot for your much-needed edification +)



i'm outta this thread, catchya around

The Disc for these:

http://av.hitachi.com/camcorder/blu-ray/index.html

Price is no issue to me. I get tons of cash from www.swatcash.com/admin



and in addition to that, their "Swatcash" point system can also be redeemed for all kinds of great prizes. So, I'll probably be one of the first adopters of this next gen PSP if/when it ever comes out :)



Here's to hoping that the DS also gets a more power evolution; preferably with dual touchscreens, and a nice 3d gpu. Well... a more 3d gpu with antialiasing, at least :)

you just showed how much of a total noob you are



wow yet another one. i'm not even gonna explain. you're better off reading these:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gibibytes



http://www.neowin.net/forum/lofiversion/index.php/t161820.html



http://jade393.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!109FA4CD4EE11A58!2973.entry



http://forums.cnet.com/5208-6121_102-0.html?forumID+45+threadID+234759+messageID+2409782



http://www.dabs.com/ProductReviews.aspx?quicklinx+4CZG

If anyone still has there PSP Slim Box, look at it... somewhere on the box i remember reading PSP 2000 PSP 3000 And PSP 4000.

I think that these are not remakes of the PSP itself, but the motherboard.....

who the hell using the Bit GiB FS Management numbers i said and ill repeat:



" Crysis Core is Smaller than Wildarms XF and the CC ISO is 1.58GB (via XP Filesystem check) Wildarms on the other hand is 1.64GB so they cut 20% out ? i think not"



GB it CLEARLY SAID GB not GiB same with wildarms. We all know that GiB and GB arnt the same what im saying it CC is not 1.64 GB and Wildarms is Therefore CC is no where near the end of the UMD. So cutting of the game DID NOT happen. Noobs

comments here should be taken with a pinch of salt.



you really need some anger management syraxius. just relax, most of the visitors here are ignorant kids anyway.



there's only about a handful or two who knows what they're talking about, and that includes freeplay; though it's quite fun to tease him sometimes, in a friendly way



in the internet, if people don't get it, don't even bother explaining

forgive me but it's quite difficult to distinguish the intended audience of your post.



were you trying to say that freeplay is right from the start and me and ace didn't know what we were talking about or is it the other way round?



just to uh.. make sure yknow

lol i just refreshed and you already replied. i guess i really have been thinking too much lol. cheers bro

this is worse than the google's april fools...



http://www.google.com/virgle/index.html

it always been 1024 because its always been understood that PC's read binary, simple on\off gates within the processor

1000 is kilo to us because its neat

in binary 1000 is 1111101000 which is not too neat

10000000000 is 1024 and is neat so therefore became the binary kilo

gibibytes and other bi's come from a lawsuit filed against hard drive manufacturers when poeple noticed after paying for 20GB they only have 18.7GB of space

they were selling 20,000,000,000 bytes as 20GB

when windows saw it and broke it down to 1024 some consumers felt ripped off

also some hard drives are up to double their said capacity to increase the integrity of the hard drive

if you get a bad sector it simply reallocates that sector to the unseen part of the hard drive

theres a trick to open it for full use using norton ghost, if you google im sure you'll find it

but its not recommended

one bad sector and data is lost instead of reallocated

well... I think its an April Fools trick that sony did on us. They wouldn't just create another newly revised psp after a revised one was released. If it would come out, this is what I want:

1 expansion port (usb not enuff) for sony or third party expanding hardware (hdd, keyboard, ect)

better range of wireless connectivity

harddrives

foldable like DS so its more compaqed

a camera (3mp)

more color ops

better spkrs

ethernet input

another analog

and more UMD on studying softwares, how tos, guides, and sony should sell iso

charging while online

That's what I want but honestly we wouldn't buy it right away. Sony should also focus on the psp way of upgrade abilities and storage space. they can actually save money making the psp upgradeable and more compact.

1 compaqed isnt a word

2 an ethernet port would make it larger due to the size

3 you can charge while online in 300mhz mode