i was thinking the same exact thing...and im still lost a bit. will games released from sony from now on now be on a memory stick rather than a umd?

oh my god... but they say 'modified ps1/ps2 games' does that mean we'll have to buy them all over again? i won't be happy about that. but if they let me iso my old ps1 games and use a ps1 emulator umd of some sort i think i'll wet my pants.

...

after PSP revolution.. the firmware updates... bla bla bla..

we'll need homebrew revolution to get homebrew on it...



can wait for the camera..!

but then again.. if they're going to come up with PSP2 with built-in camera... i'll get a second PSP.. haha

This is quality!! My playstation library is actually gonna be revived! Sweet! I can't wait to play the final fantasy's again... but this time they'll be portable!!



Lets just hope they don't make you download the roms from them and charge you for it... hopefully they will release software to simply transfer the games onto the psp

Alot more than I was expecting. Good Job Sony.

I'll bet they charge for the "modified PlayStation/PlayStation 2 games"



I don't feel like paying the 10e again for the game I bought years ago.... Thou they could have come up with something like "insert the original disc to verifie that you own the game.."



Makere

insert the original disc to verifie that you own the game.."



LOL yeah i'll just slide my ps1 game into the psp drive... OH seems i have a problem the friggin ps1 cd is huge and won't fit into the drive!!!

Oh, these updates sound shure awsome!

But i will jump the train a bit later ^^ as always

Downloading ps1 games via PC to transfer to the PSP sounds logical, even if it cripples your mobility a bit. shure they wil charge for it nevertheses (micro payments for Original owners maybe?). They need to pay their employees too. And for shure you will need to buy the emulator.



And since they will release an auxilary camera will there maybe no PSP2 so soon?



And another and

when you can use the USB port for Cameras, Microphones and GPS devices, why the hack not for Keyboards, Mouses, Surroundspeaker systems a.s.o.?

so by the looks of that the controller will be finalised in june?

..eemm. Question! Many other websites mentioned Voice over IP. How come this one doesn't?



Is this the arrival of portable video chat? The new camera will be tight! This is going to be a big HR for Sony.

would be better if you could take pictures with the camera instead of it just being for video

Must upgrade!! No way any homebrew is gonna top that.

i dont know why all you are saying your going to update from 1.5,, we have all that stuff(exept for a few)

and they WILL charge you for the ps1 games(its sony people),, unless it checks to see if you registerd that game already(from their site, with the serial #) and ps1 games take a huge amout of space, unless sony has some super compression method or something,,



im going to have to skip this upgrade unless we get full homebrew surport, cause free games rule

there not going to release everything at once are they or there'd be nothing left to entice people to update to save them from the dirty pirates. so there could be email etc added just not yet, no point throwing all there eggs into the basket then just having firmware the patches security issues.



as for the ps1/ps2 games of course there going to charge it'll be around £5 a game i reckon and NOT all games will be released obviously if there's going to be compatability problems with a certain game or it ends up being to big then there not going to release it are they. they'll just keep making bigger and bigger memory sticks available.

was thinking of upgrading for the new games coming this march "SFDM" and this news came out.

icing on the CAKE BABY !

This is complete bull*****. you mean I gotta go buy a nother psp just to play the latest *****. ***** that! Hell the existing psp isn't all that it's cracked up to be. The thing is very fragile. Mine is on the fritz yet again. HEY SONY make a durrable psp!! One that wont keep breaking because its cold out. So what are people like me supposed to do. I want a DAMN rebate or something. I've been buying all kinds of your products. This new CARP better be compatible with my two psp's. News like this doesn't make me happy, it's upsetting that they could have just done this in the first place. How many years in between ps2 and ps3??? 10 15? So why is there a new psp only one year later. Sheesh, its junk like this that makes me want to get rid of it all. PS2, 2psp's, games, movies,memstick s. all of it.

I dunno, just it all better werk with the existing psp. If it doesn't, well I'll just say this. LAWSUIT!!!!

Wow, I still don't see a single reason to upgrade my firmware, even for this stuff.



Flash? Done and being improved on 1.5



RSS/Net Radio? The radio is at least done and done well on 1.5, RSS I don't use anyway (though I would play with it if it was done well on 1.5)



PSX emulator? I'm not about to buy the same games I already paid for. And this is being worked on also I believe.



Play off memory card? The memory card isn't that incredibly fast over a UMD from what i've seen. There are still load times.



Download games to memory card? Welcome to Steam PSP.



Camera? Unless it's going to be at least 3.2 megapixel, I see nothing useful. The eyetoy games are gimicks at best. I can't see anything exciting about a psp eyetoy.



The only thing I would cinsider upgrading for at this point is something I feel should have beenincluded from day 1, which is A/V out. IT's USB 2.0, so it should be fast enough to work with some sort of USB adapter/dongle. Then upgrading firmware would finally be worthwhile.

Wow, this is the last straw. I don't want any of this crap on a "PORTABLE HANDHELD" system! All I want are fun games that load quickly. Look for my PSP on ebay shortley.

it all sounds good to me but i wish the camera could take pix and video that could be saved tothe mem stick

Oh that's right. If I don't think like the rest of you then I have brain damage. Typical from a Sony fanboy. Oh and BTW, PSOne sucked! Why would I want to buy PSOne games? So I can wait even longer for them to load?



Get rid of the UMD sony, oh and for the love of god come up with a descent D-pad and analog stick.

so i can actually see a display of what im taking a picture of. Doesn't that make more sense? and hopefully it will have nice resolution unlike a crapy picture phone.

Im shocked that sony even considered doing things like this





can't wait for exploits on this wide array of potential weakness coming up.





Neo geo on 3.0 here we go

i love sony they rock but those geeks better not charge for the moded ps1/ps2 games or this whole thing is not as good as it sounds.

whats the big deal of having a flash player on the psp..? what does flash player do

i know im slow :(

Nice ***** ;) I hope that PSone games can be convertet to the emu-format. Fanjita and Co. have a new Goal

I don't get what this slffl d00d's problem is. He seems to think that we have to buy a new PSP to use the stuff mentioned it the article. Might want to read it again there, man. This stuff will be available as USB accessories, firmware updates, and downloadable software. None of that will require a new PSP unless you want to keep a 1.0 or 1.5 firmware PSP around., which there is increasingly less and less reason to do. Also, why do you seem to think that games played via the official emulator will load slower than UMD games? If they're running from the memory stick, they should be somewhat faster than a UMD and give you the added bonus of extending your battery life because you won't be using the UMD drive. Why do you think the PSone sucked? What console was better at the time? N64? Hardly... Goldeneye was it's only worthwhile game. Saturn? Don't make me laugh... Dreamcast? Great potential, but sadly it fell victim to the stupidity that is Sega. Jaguar? You mean they actually sold some of those? Also, what's your beef with the UMD format? You'd rather pay through the nose for a game on a cartridge that could store the same amount of data? You'd be looking at at least $120 per game given current flash memory prices. Use your head, man! Maybe it's better that you do ebay your stuff... Spoiled children don't deserve such nice things.



Wow.... That went longer than I thought it would...



To address the concerns of those wondering how they're going to fit games like FFVII into a reasonable size, I say consider this. The resolution of the PSP screen is lower than that of a standard television screen, which means they can probably get away with using smaller texture sizes. FMV sequences can be re-encoded at the lower resolution of the PSP screen into an MP4 video format. These three things alone should save quite a bit of room. Lastly, consider that games spanning multiple discs have a lot of duplicate data. Each disc contains all of the data to run the game engine and, in the case of FFVII, much of the same information for different areas of the game world since you can go back to areas from earlier in the game without having to switch CD's. I wouldn't be surprised at all if they could cram FFVII into less than 1 GB of space. Now, downloading that much data is still going to be a problem for those that buy the game. Compressing the game data into a ZIP, RAR, etc. file would help some, but it'll still be a big file to download.

Hopefully we will have +4 GB sticks soon (unless we already do..) because I really don't want to purchase the harddrive (it's so big!) and by that time the prices of 1-2 gb sticks will be lowered. It would be awsome if they could get FF7 around 500-800 mb. That would totally rock.

the flash player alone would be worth the upgrade.

as far as a modified ps1/ps2 emulator,does this mean the psp's market of remakes and ports will end?



i just hope that they have some sort of deal where if you own the game you can get it converted for a small ($5) charge.I'd assume if that was the case then either it'd be done at stores,or transfered thru the ps3 in some manner.



maybe they can kiss sega's butt and get us a master system/genesis/sega cd/32x/saturn/dreamcast emulator too.



i hope this happens ASAP, i'll update as soon as MGS is out for it.

Okaaaaaay...there are several ideas surrounding this topic that I believe are interesting and should be elaborated upon, so I may as well just rant about them here.



First of all, how is SONY going to stop people from pirating the downloaded PS1/PS2 games? Unless SONY comes up with some way for the download system to check the PSP's serial number and change the file in order to ensure that it only works on one PSP before download there will be enough easily pirated games to distract people from the commercial PSP games that will be released. If SONY succeeds in creating a system of that nature it will likely be cracked in about a year and cause SONY more headaches. This is counter productive, especially if there are concerns about piracy, so perhaps SONY should just release "bundles" in UMD format with several PS2/PSX games per UMD, it would be easier.



Who is to say that the Eye Toy and GPS will be 1.5 killers? For those who are willing to wait there will be a hack or program that will allow people to use these devices on 1.5 PSPs albeit most likely in a different manner sooner or later, just like there are hacks that allow most games requiring higher firmware versions to work on 1.5 PSPs. MSN Messenger with web cam, anyone? A homebrew programmer managed to succeed in getting his PSP to interface with a GPS system in the past (reference: http://pspupdates.qj.net/2005/11/gpsp-gps-front-end-program-for-psp.html) and other programmers have found different ways to use parts of the PSP's hardware so perhaps a homebrew programmer can create a program that accesses the maps stored on the GPS's UMD software. Failing that, a scanned road map with a system for determining the location and dimensions of the area would work too. This can be either the end or a new beginning depending on how those who have the ability and knowledge to program homebrew handle it. There is the possibility of the PSP Revolution mentioned here being followed by a new Homebrew Revolution.

Ok im gonna explain this in plain english for those who didn't actually read the whole statement by sony. or who did read it but only actually read the words PSP, PLAYSTATION, AND EMULATOR. These are the people who are dusting off thier old PS1 games getting ready to make iso's to run on thier psp's. so here goes.



The following are direct quotes from the above statement by Sony:



"Sony will be starting a new ***e-Distribution system*** for the PSP." "To ***buy and download*** games into your memory stick, and run them ***directly*** from it!!"



"Sony will be distributing ***MODIFIED***P layStation/PlayStation 2 games through this system."



What does this mean for the average user you might ask?



Well what the above statements mean is this. There is going to be a system similar to Itunes that you sign up for this service and download classic games from the PS1 & PS2 However like stated above these are modified versions of the original games. that is how they will run on the PSP. As these game available for download will most likely be recompiled from the original source files to run on a PSP without the need for an emulator. That is why they are "Modified" as well as some of the games will need the controls reconfigured as there are 4 less buttons and one less analog stick on the psp. The reason sony threw out the words playstation emulator was for shear marketing value. For those of you who don't understand the shear power behind marketing. Let me explain it for you. by Sony using the 2 words Playstation and Emulator in a paragraph about new features for the psp they have stirred up a whole slew of people ready to upgrade thinking that they will be able to dust off thier old ps1 games and make the iso's and play them on thier psp's. Thats exactly what they want you to think. they want everybody to upgrade to the newest firmware so they have control over everything that is psp. If you think about it Sony is just genious. Once you upgrade and then find out that you cant just go and make ISO's on your own its too late. Not to mention they can take the thousand or so games already available for the ps1 modify them to run on a psp and sell them for $5-$10 dollars in the style of itunes. This will give the psp and instant library of hundreds of great titles(great titles which it currently is lacking) and nets sony some cash at the same time. It would be utterly stupid of sony to just make a ps1/ps2 emulator (which in my opinion is impossible for either one of the emulators to run decently on a psp) and release it and leave it up to the user to make the iso's on thier own. When there is huge profit potential to be made by modifying the original games so they run on a psp and then sell them for a small amount. Plus if you did upgrade your firmware to take advantage of these new features. yeah you are gaining the use of ps1, and 2 games but you are also losing all of the following:



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So for those of you who still dont understand. you should jump out of your tree because I have a bannana for you. If your not a furry little monkey hanging from a tree

I don't see why you had to say those that would use the emulator should die...or those who don't understand...





Buy legal emulated games on psp.



or



Download illegal emulators with roms.



hmmm what to choose?



Guess it depends on your moral views on the subject.



i most likely won't be updating, but those that do...doesn't make them retarded.

To answer your question.....the CDs didn't hold 3 GB.....













they were multi-discs.

Even if it's 4 discs long, it shouldn't be 3gigs. There's alot of repeated data on those 4 discs, meaning that after the first disc, each disc would probably only add about 300 to 400 extra MBs. Then there's compression, using Gzip, you could bring a 700MB disc down to 300MB (results will vary). Of course, if this is truly an emulator, you could aways carry say 2 discs on one memory stick, and keep the other 2 on another stick or on your computer.

"if one CD holds 512mb"



The CD's hold 750mb

Alright what the heck,I'm sorry to state the obvious or be the first to be flamed for it but c'mon,PS2 games cannot be straight emulated/remade for the psp with any ammount of its original quality intact. Just ask anyone who knows anything about the specs for the PS2 vs. PSP and they can tell you thats impossible. I think they threw in the "/PS2" just to entice and excite people about it,just as Rploesser stated about how they threw in the "playstation emulator" phrase. Theres no way the psp's anywhere near powerful to do that or even come close to running PS2 games so i really think we should disregard that as just bull they put in to get us ramoed to upgrade,althoug h I'm already close enough to the land of no return with firmware ver. 2.60 thanks to Shin Budokai but still.

and also, whats the *****ing point of arguing about final fantasy 7 being able to fit on memory stick. omfg firstly if it cant be fuking ported to psp cuz psp lacks in l2, r2, along with the second analogue



and if sony were to change this so it works on psp, the whole game has to be changed... would square do this? no *****ing way.. same with all other ps1 games.. omfg sony is so *****ing retarded, they're getting people hyped because of the release of ds lite.





sony.. u have lost to nintendo.. on portable so give up psp, and dont ***** up with ps3

Yes, PS2 on the PSP.

Read this on speed compairison

http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/games/archives/2005/02/03/psp_officially_as_powerful_as_ps2.html



They also said "Modified". Like most people already mentioned, the controls, also they would have to tone some things down like when they release multiplatform games, they have to lower standards from Xbox to PS2.

Thanks for the link GiveHaste but that doesnt really give me anything to go on,aside from the tecnical aspects he talked about i pretty much had that idea already. But really lets face it,theres just no way you could play a PS2 game on the PSP,if that wree possible the games released for it so far would look and run much faster and better than they do. Ofcourse the quality of the graphics is great to me and very much as good as the psone,granted it seems that programmers are using different graphical "tricks" per-say to make certain effects and backgrounds etc. look just as good as a psone game but not coded or put in the same,such as if you've played Maverick Hunter X you'll notice some parts of the backgrounds in the game are just a single image with the kind of quality a png image has while when this kind of "still" bg was used in a psone console game it was coded in the same as a 3D moving bg so it looked the same and fit in more seamlessly. Bottom line,PSP is very impressively powerful but I dont think for an instant they could "port" or "modify" any PS2 game for the PSP like this and not majorly change the game or completely rehash it in the process. And man we should really take to the forums with this with all the comments its getting. lol

"DAMN I PASSED OUT WEN I READ ABOUT THE PS1/PS2 EMU FOR THE PSP OMFG THIS IS TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE TAKE DAT MICROSOFT HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH A"



Did you not know? microsoft doesnt have a handheld.. Stupid ass! ps3 delayed! Take that sony!



LMAO!

Dam people can go on and on. I don't know why i read every comment but now that i have i wish i didn't waste that half hour of my life. The main thing about this news is that sony is finally releasing the accessories we all pretty much expected. I think what they are doing is great and will certainly make the psp more entertaining. I for one will do the same as the above people have mentioned, which is wait till the hackers(people who know what they're doing) make sense of this. Only after sony releases this new firmware and accessories will we know for sure what we are capable of doing and i will decide based on the FaCtS and not speculation what to do.

and omfg Balmung-sama, so you think the eyetoy will replace the l2, r2 buttons?

wtf so are you ganna start dancing with your face in the subway? pathetic..

Name calling is of the ignorant mind.. "sony.. u have lost to nintendo.. on portable so give up psp" basically you did, and if you want to continue arguing you might want to go back to school and learn proper grammar and spelling so we don't have to lower our standards just to understand what you type.



Virus, http://www.lik-sang.com/news.php?artc=3808.

Hey, lifebot2! So the original PlayStation controllers had analog sticks, huh? Care to explain this then, smart guy?



http://www.gamestop.com/product.asp?product%5Fid=900110



The PlayStation controllers did not get the analog sticks until the first Dual Shock controllers came out a year or two after the launch of the first PlayStation.

I swore I wouldnt answer back to lifebot but now that someones pointed out the obvious to him,and with image reference,let me second anonymous on that...you got OWNED,and by pure obvious facts. Alright,all done here...

excuse but does anybody know where i a can find a nds emulator that actually work, i mean really work.....

thanx

If sony were to sell the ps ports for under about 13$ i and probaly a lot of other people would by the ports because a lot of ps games are really worth the value and are dying to be made portable





but if sony tries to sell them for 21$ then i would wait for for an emulator too.

Well I think this is all nice, and come on guys how can some people wonder how they're going to fit PS1 games on a memstick, Y's ark of napishtim is a ps2 game and it was ported to the psp and the iso for the game is probably 500 - 600 megs, so a few changes and voila and this is why 100% sure they are going to charge for the games, since someone is going to have to make this modifications. The question is how much are they going to charge???? hope not too much, I'm still sticking with 1.5 for the time being though, but this is a nice attempt by sony..... now if they would just stop trying to kill of homebrew

Perhaps the "psp emulator" thing SONY will release in a future firmware update will be a 1.5 killer and not affect UMD game sales if they play their cards right. SONY just has to release a few decent games and make sure they are easy to pirate, many people will update just to play them for free. After that, they can just cancel the "PS1 Emulator" project and blame the cancellation on those who pirate games. By the time people realize what is going on it will be too late to switch back to a firmware version that supports any form of homebrew again.



Anyway, I will not update and may eventually switch to a GP32X system when PSP homebrew is dead strictly as a matter of principle. There is a certain freedom in willingly deciding what to do with a product I have purchased instead of being told what I can not do with it.