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On today's PlayStation Business Briefing 2006, Sony Computer Entertainment has announced an upcoming revolution for the PlayStation Portable. There will be tons of new features to be added to this divine object of glory in the upcoming months. A delay to the PS3 release has also been announced officially.The users will be able to add new exciting functions, such as the Macromedia Flash Player, and will be expanding the current RSS channel function to support streaming and saving internet radio and videos, by updating the System Software of the PSP (the firmware) to the latest version.
New official accessories will also be released this autumn, such as the PSP camera "PSP-300" and the GPS receiver "PSP-290". The users will be able to experience the motion tracing function of the EyeToy, which was originally available on the PS2 by using the PSP camera. With the help of the GPS receiver, you will be able to make use of navigation software to guide your way all over the world.
Sony will be starting a new e-Distribution system for the PSP. You may start to wonder what it is, huh? Well, simply saying - to buy and download games into your memory stick, and run them directly from it!! Bye-bye, loading times... But wait, that is not all the fun you can get from the new service. There will also be an OFFICIAL PlayStation Emulator by Sony itself (PacManFan, don't cry)! Sony will be distributing modified PlayStation/PlayStation 2 games through this system.Also, the "Ceramic White" PSP will be sold in a normal pack (PSP, 1 battery, power adapter) from April in Japan, at a price for 19,800 JPY (167.8 USD). North American and European users will be able to buy a "Base Model" pack (PSP, 1 battery, power adapter) of the PSP at $199USD/199 Euro. The actually dates are: Europe from March 22, North American from the end of March.
So much for the PSP side, now here is a bad news for the PS3 fans. Sony has officially announced that the release of the PS3 is postponed from this spring to early November of 2006. However, the release of the PS3 will be global - Asia, North America and Europe will be getting the release in the mean time. Sony will be able to offer 1 million consoles per month after the release, to meet the need of the users around the world.
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Loading stuff from memory stick is possible again?
Welcome to a new age of PSP-hacking!
i was thinking the same exact thing...and im still lost a bit. will games released from sony from now on now be on a memory stick rather than a umd?
Killermoose, no they will not be released on a memory stick. What they are saying is like a downloadable content store in which you buy games. Not releasing them on MSP Duo's.
Other than that awesome news, i cant waqit for flash support!
oh my god... but they say 'modified ps1/ps2 games' does that mean we'll have to buy them all over again? i won't be happy about that. but if they let me iso my old ps1 games and use a ps1 emulator umd of some sort i think i'll wet my pants.
Im upgrading as soon as this comes out
I used to think i wouldnt sacrifice homebrew but these features sound pretty nice.
And i have faith in the community to hack this firware.
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Wow! So, Sony beat the homebrewers to the punch with the PSX emulator, eh? This is great, finally the PSP is getting some love.
after PSP revolution.. the firmware updates... bla bla bla..
we'll need homebrew revolution to get homebrew on it...
can wait for the camera..!
but then again.. if they're going to come up with PSP2 with built-in camera... i'll get a second PSP.. haha
When does this piece of lovely sh*t comes out ???
I hope soon (UPGRADE!!!)
This is quality!! My playstation library is actually gonna be revived! Sweet! I can't wait to play the final fantasy's again... but this time they'll be portable!!
Lets just hope they don't make you download the roms from them and charge you for it... hopefully they will release software to simply transfer the games onto the psp
By this day and age couldn't they just make the PSX emulator selective to only work on this new update?.. well i don't want to be giving them any ideas now.. jk
Alot more than I was expecting. Good Job Sony.
"Sony will be distributing modified PlayStation/PlayStation 2 games throught this system."
You will be getting the games from them, as they will likely be changed at the code level to work with their emulator/hardware.
I'll bet they charge for the "modified PlayStation/PlayStation 2 games"
I don't feel like paying the 10e again for the game I bought years ago.... Thou they could have come up with something like "insert the original disc to verifie that you own the game.."
Makere
the mod part is probably the dimension.. to make sure it fits the psp screen perfectly.. instead of tv ratio
insert the original disc to verifie that you own the game.."
LOL yeah i'll just slide my ps1 game into the psp drive... OH seems i have a problem the friggin ps1 cd is huge and won't fit into the drive!!!
super_hoops1967, what the guy before you is trying to say is that you should insert your PS1/PS2 disc into your computer then the program/game will make sure it is the right version and then you can put it into your memorystick, if you do like this you wont have to pay!
Thats what he said!
Oh, these updates sound shure awsome!
But i will jump the train a bit later ^^ as always
Downloading ps1 games via PC to transfer to the PSP sounds logical, even if it cripples your mobility a bit. shure they wil charge for it nevertheses (micro payments for Original owners maybe?). They need to pay their employees too. And for shure you will need to buy the emulator.
And since they will release an auxilary camera will there maybe no PSP2 so soon?
And another and
when you can use the USB port for Cameras, Microphones and GPS devices, why the hack not for Keyboards, Mouses, Surroundspeaker systems a.s.o.?
http://www.watch.impress.co.jp/av/docs/20060315/sce1_12.jpg
CELL and GPU Core are DONE.
Controller and BluRay Driver - Not Yet!
so by the looks of that the controller will be finalised in june?
Not bad from sony..finally doing something for us psp owners.
But what i dont get is how will i be able to play a PSX game with no L2 and R2 buttons...
they should come out with a usb that adds two buttons to the top...with the emulator...
i have a bad feeling that this update will be to make everyone want to download it like the 2.6...i might wait and see what the homebrew hacking make of it..
..eemm. Question! Many other websites mentioned Voice over IP. How come this one doesn't?
Is this the arrival of portable video chat? The new camera will be tight! This is going to be a big HR for Sony.
Holy *****!!! is this real? Finally real reasons to upgrade from 1.5!!!!!
would be better if you could take pictures with the camera instead of it just being for video
I haven't seen anything about VoIP in the official press release on Sony's site.
A whole final fantasy game would almost reach 3 gb's,.. and that's just ps1 games we're talking about. How are we supposed to fit that all on our memory sticks? I think maybe they meant they'll have little flash games for download and they'll rerelease ps1/ps2 games on umd as part of a "classic" series or something like that.
its like everyones dreams came true
Must upgrade!! No way any homebrew is gonna top that.
did it not say some modified ps1/ps2 games?
i dont know why all you are saying your going to update from 1.5,, we have all that stuff(exept for a few)
and they WILL charge you for the ps1 games(its sony people),, unless it checks to see if you registerd that game already(from their site, with the serial #) and ps1 games take a huge amout of space, unless sony has some super compression method or something,,
im going to have to skip this upgrade unless we get full homebrew surport, cause free games rule
I highly doubt that the modified PS1 games will be free, chances are they will still cost something since SONY would lose a lot of money if they were free and no company needs that. Chances are there will be a catch to all these features and no more updates unless homebrew programmers come up with something impressive. Also, I have a dictionary, text reader, and word processor running on my PSP, as well as a decent jabber program, and do not see them included in the update.
On the other hand, SONY may finally be listening to people who develop homebrew and giving them the features they desire, not that I would expect it to last but this will be far better than a bunch of 16 bit emulators. Also, flash support would be a decent alternative to homebrew games.
At any rate I will wait and see what happens before updating, maybe updating will be well worth saying goodbye to homebrew but then maybe the features will be so limited that they are not worth it. Only time will tell.
there not going to release everything at once are they or there'd be nothing left to entice people to update to save them from the dirty pirates. so there could be email etc added just not yet, no point throwing all there eggs into the basket then just having firmware the patches security issues.
as for the ps1/ps2 games of course there going to charge it'll be around £5 a game i reckon and NOT all games will be released obviously if there's going to be compatability problems with a certain game or it ends up being to big then there not going to release it are they. they'll just keep making bigger and bigger memory sticks available.
hey guys i'm new in this, so anyway i think this is great actually more than great immagine what will you be able to do with this new update, i was really afraid to sacrifice MY HOMEBREWS but i'm willing to take the chance
was thinking of upgrading for the new games coming this march "SFDM" and this news came out.
icing on the CAKE BABY !
do we actually know when the first of these updates is going to be released?
This is complete bull*****. you mean I gotta go buy a nother psp just to play the latest *****. ***** that! Hell the existing psp isn't all that it's cracked up to be. The thing is very fragile. Mine is on the fritz yet again. HEY SONY make a durrable psp!! One that wont keep breaking because its cold out. So what are people like me supposed to do. I want a DAMN rebate or something. I've been buying all kinds of your products. This new CARP better be compatible with my two psp's. News like this doesn't make me happy, it's upsetting that they could have just done this in the first place. How many years in between ps2 and ps3??? 10 15? So why is there a new psp only one year later. Sheesh, its junk like this that makes me want to get rid of it all. PS2, 2psp's, games, movies,memstick s. all of it.
I dunno, just it all better werk with the existing psp. If it doesn't, well I'll just say this. LAWSUIT!!!!
i dunno if i should be happy about the psp info, or disappointed about the ps3 info...
Wow, I still don't see a single reason to upgrade my firmware, even for this stuff.
Flash? Done and being improved on 1.5
RSS/Net Radio? The radio is at least done and done well on 1.5, RSS I don't use anyway (though I would play with it if it was done well on 1.5)
PSX emulator? I'm not about to buy the same games I already paid for. And this is being worked on also I believe.
Play off memory card? The memory card isn't that incredibly fast over a UMD from what i've seen. There are still load times.
Download games to memory card? Welcome to Steam PSP.
Camera? Unless it's going to be at least 3.2 megapixel, I see nothing useful. The eyetoy games are gimicks at best. I can't see anything exciting about a psp eyetoy.
The only thing I would cinsider upgrading for at this point is something I feel should have beenincluded from day 1, which is A/V out. IT's USB 2.0, so it should be fast enough to work with some sort of USB adapter/dongle. Then upgrading firmware would finally be worthwhile.
This really sounds to good to be true, but something make me specisous...
1)Macromedia Flash Player:
Flash is good, but, every time a new security vulnarbility comes out, they'll have to release a new update (ya really think thats going to go well?)
2)Buy and download games into your memory stick, and run them directly:
I highly doubt its going to be UMD games. It's probably going to be like the xbox360 arcade (not bad, just not what a lot of people want)
3)modified PlayStation...:
Does this mean Im going to have to re-buy all the game i already have? hope theyre cheap (and the prople they are targiting with this have CC)
4)...PlayStation 2 games:
WHAT!!!!!! How many PS2 games are going to fit on a two gig stick (or even the four gig stick thats not releaced yet), I bet these games are going to be modified to the point of no return (but the dream of KH and KH2 on the PSP still makes me drool)
but whatever FW this comes in, i may actually update (but ill grab GTA, just to keep some homebrew)
Wow, this is the last straw. I don't want any of this crap on a "PORTABLE HANDHELD" system! All I want are fun games that load quickly. Look for my PSP on ebay shortley.
This is awesome that this stuff is coming out. At first, I thought it was "Revolution Playstation Portable" meaning a new PSP coming out, and I was pissed. I misread, it saying a revolution for the PSP. Glad I cleared that up.. And WTF slffl, are you blind or just an idiot? PSX Emulator on your PSP, some of the greatest games of all time were developed on the PS. This is awesome news, how can you call it crap. You obviously misread something or have brain damage.
it all sounds good to me but i wish the camera could take pix and video that could be saved tothe mem stick
yes you should all upgrade when this comes out, it will drive the value of my psp up 5x
Oh that's right. If I don't think like the rest of you then I have brain damage. Typical from a Sony fanboy. Oh and BTW, PSOne sucked! Why would I want to buy PSOne games? So I can wait even longer for them to load?
Get rid of the UMD sony, oh and for the love of god come up with a descent D-pad and analog stick.
I guess my 1GB isnt gonna hack it anymore...
so i can actually see a display of what im taking a picture of. Doesn't that make more sense? and hopefully it will have nice resolution unlike a crapy picture phone.
go back to your (Atari) 2600 slffl!
quit friggin complaining for once!
Im shocked that sony even considered doing things like this
can't wait for exploits on this wide array of potential weakness coming up.
Neo geo on 3.0 here we go
DAMN I PASSED OUT WEN I READ ABOUT THE PS1/PS2 EMU FOR THE PSP OMFG THIS IS TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE TAKE DAT MICROSOFT HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH A
i love sony they rock but those geeks better not charge for the moded ps1/ps2 games or this whole thing is not as good as it sounds.
how many p:jolas does it take to screw up a psp.
whats the big deal of having a flash player on the psp..? what does flash player do
i know im slow :(
Why arre some people complaining just think about playing final fantasy 7 or 8 on the psp. The only thing i am worried aboout is how will these downloadable games fit. FF was on 4 discs how will that fit in 1 memory stick unless the fmv's are removed and i hope there not
Nice ***** ;) I hope that PSone games can be convertet to the emu-format. Fanjita and Co. have a new Goal
slffl, I'm a fanboy of nothing. I buy what I like or what interests me. You obviously don't see the whole picture on all of this.
I don't get what this slffl d00d's problem is. He seems to think that we have to buy a new PSP to use the stuff mentioned it the article. Might want to read it again there, man. This stuff will be available as USB accessories, firmware updates, and downloadable software. None of that will require a new PSP unless you want to keep a 1.0 or 1.5 firmware PSP around., which there is increasingly less and less reason to do. Also, why do you seem to think that games played via the official emulator will load slower than UMD games? If they're running from the memory stick, they should be somewhat faster than a UMD and give you the added bonus of extending your battery life because you won't be using the UMD drive. Why do you think the PSone sucked? What console was better at the time? N64? Hardly... Goldeneye was it's only worthwhile game. Saturn? Don't make me laugh... Dreamcast? Great potential, but sadly it fell victim to the stupidity that is Sega. Jaguar? You mean they actually sold some of those? Also, what's your beef with the UMD format? You'd rather pay through the nose for a game on a cartridge that could store the same amount of data? You'd be looking at at least $120 per game given current flash memory prices. Use your head, man! Maybe it's better that you do ebay your stuff... Spoiled children don't deserve such nice things.
Wow.... That went longer than I thought it would...
To address the concerns of those wondering how they're going to fit games like FFVII into a reasonable size, I say consider this. The resolution of the PSP screen is lower than that of a standard television screen, which means they can probably get away with using smaller texture sizes. FMV sequences can be re-encoded at the lower resolution of the PSP screen into an MP4 video format. These three things alone should save quite a bit of room. Lastly, consider that games spanning multiple discs have a lot of duplicate data. Each disc contains all of the data to run the game engine and, in the case of FFVII, much of the same information for different areas of the game world since you can go back to areas from earlier in the game without having to switch CD's. I wouldn't be surprised at all if they could cram FFVII into less than 1 GB of space. Now, downloading that much data is still going to be a problem for those that buy the game. Compressing the game data into a ZIP, RAR, etc. file would help some, but it'll still be a big file to download.
//vipre: Good stuff, cleared lots up
//killermoose: Flash player is the program that runs pretty much any online game you play in your web browser (because most are in SWF format).
People are concerned that you won't be able to fit games on the memory stick but I would bet that for users with smaller ones the games could be downloaded to the PS3s HD, and streamed?
And it would also be nice if PS2/1 games could just be saved from the game disc on the ps3 HDD too
Hopefully we will have +4 GB sticks soon (unless we already do..) because I really don't want to purchase the harddrive (it's so big!) and by that time the prices of 1-2 gb sticks will be lowered. It would be awsome if they could get FF7 around 500-800 mb. That would totally rock.
smells like BS to me....lol gotta love sony.
first matrix now 4d?. Alright.
the flash player alone would be worth the upgrade.
as far as a modified ps1/ps2 emulator,does this mean the psp's market of remakes and ports will end?
i just hope that they have some sort of deal where if you own the game you can get it converted for a small ($5) charge.I'd assume if that was the case then either it'd be done at stores,or transfered thru the ps3 in some manner.
maybe they can kiss sega's butt and get us a master system/genesis/sega cd/32x/saturn/dreamcast emulator too.
i hope this happens ASAP, i'll update as soon as MGS is out for it.
smells like BS to me....lol gotta love sony.
first matrix now 4d?. Alright.
Okaaaaaay...there are several ideas surrounding this topic that I believe are interesting and should be elaborated upon, so I may as well just rant about them here.
First of all, how is SONY going to stop people from pirating the downloaded PS1/PS2 games? Unless SONY comes up with some way for the download system to check the PSP's serial number and change the file in order to ensure that it only works on one PSP before download there will be enough easily pirated games to distract people from the commercial PSP games that will be released. If SONY succeeds in creating a system of that nature it will likely be cracked in about a year and cause SONY more headaches. This is counter productive, especially if there are concerns about piracy, so perhaps SONY should just release "bundles" in UMD format with several PS2/PSX games per UMD, it would be easier.
Who is to say that the Eye Toy and GPS will be 1.5 killers? For those who are willing to wait there will be a hack or program that will allow people to use these devices on 1.5 PSPs albeit most likely in a different manner sooner or later, just like there are hacks that allow most games requiring higher firmware versions to work on 1.5 PSPs. MSN Messenger with web cam, anyone? A homebrew programmer managed to succeed in getting his PSP to interface with a GPS system in the past (reference: http://pspupdates.qj.net/2005/11/gpsp-gps-front-end-program-for-psp.html) and other programmers have found different ways to use parts of the PSP's hardware so perhaps a homebrew programmer can create a program that accesses the maps stored on the GPS's UMD software. Failing that, a scanned road map with a system for determining the location and dimensions of the area would work too. This can be either the end or a new beginning depending on how those who have the ability and knowledge to program homebrew handle it. There is the possibility of the PSP Revolution mentioned here being followed by a new Homebrew Revolution.
ps2 games with psp graphics...???...maybe the old ones...but i dont see RE 4 lookin too good on the psp.
Ok im gonna explain this in plain english for those who didn't actually read the whole statement by sony. or who did read it but only actually read the words PSP, PLAYSTATION, AND EMULATOR. These are the people who are dusting off thier old PS1 games getting ready to make iso's to run on thier psp's. so here goes.
The following are direct quotes from the above statement by Sony:
"Sony will be starting a new ***e-Distribution system*** for the PSP." "To ***buy and download*** games into your memory stick, and run them ***directly*** from it!!"
"Sony will be distributing ***MODIFIED***P layStation/PlayStation 2 games through this system."
What does this mean for the average user you might ask?
Well what the above statements mean is this. There is going to be a system similar to Itunes that you sign up for this service and download classic games from the PS1 & PS2 However like stated above these are modified versions of the original games. that is how they will run on the PSP. As these game available for download will most likely be recompiled from the original source files to run on a PSP without the need for an emulator. That is why they are "Modified" as well as some of the games will need the controls reconfigured as there are 4 less buttons and one less analog stick on the psp. The reason sony threw out the words playstation emulator was for shear marketing value. For those of you who don't understand the shear power behind marketing. Let me explain it for you. by Sony using the 2 words Playstation and Emulator in a paragraph about new features for the psp they have stirred up a whole slew of people ready to upgrade thinking that they will be able to dust off thier old ps1 games and make the iso's and play them on thier psp's. Thats exactly what they want you to think. they want everybody to upgrade to the newest firmware so they have control over everything that is psp. If you think about it Sony is just genious. Once you upgrade and then find out that you cant just go and make ISO's on your own its too late. Not to mention they can take the thousand or so games already available for the ps1 modify them to run on a psp and sell them for $5-$10 dollars in the style of itunes. This will give the psp and instant library of hundreds of great titles(great titles which it currently is lacking) and nets sony some cash at the same time. It would be utterly stupid of sony to just make a ps1/ps2 emulator (which in my opinion is impossible for either one of the emulators to run decently on a psp) and release it and leave it up to the user to make the iso's on thier own. When there is huge profit potential to be made by modifying the original games so they run on a psp and then sell them for a small amount. Plus if you did upgrade your firmware to take advantage of these new features. yeah you are gaining the use of ps1, and 2 games but you are also losing all of the following:
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So for those of you who still dont understand. you should jump out of your tree because I have a bannana for you. If your not a furry little monkey hanging from a tree
then that means your must be retarded. so do then you should box up your psp and send it to me. And after you put your psp in the mail turn your head to the right and use your tongue to push the little joystick on your motorized wheelchair, until you are in the middle of a busy street. this will be a favor to the rest of use who actually do manage to maintain a somewhat decent thought process. I for one will not be upgrading mine and will just enjoy the life of emulation as I do currently
I don't see why you had to say those that would use the emulator should die...or those who don't understand...
Buy legal emulated games on psp.
or
Download illegal emulators with roms.
hmmm what to choose?
Guess it depends on your moral views on the subject.
i most likely won't be updating, but those that do...doesn't make them retarded.
For the PSX emulator, I'd wait and see what you have to do for the games first.
and about the 3GB FF game... The PS1 discs don't even hold 3GB, so how could it be?
To answer your question.....the CDs didn't hold 3 GB.....
they were multi-discs.
"and about the 3GB FF game... The PS1 discs don't even hold 3GB, so how could it be?"
mabye if its four disks long ;)
But anyway, with any king of compression and combining (like viper said) it could be a gig. Its the PS2 game size that makes me wonder. The PS2 disks hold 4.7 GB (or 8.5 for DVD-9), the hell is that going to fit anything other than a 2 - 8 (assuming they lift the 4gig limit)gig stick.
They're going to make a killing off of this. Memstick sales will rise, they'll be able to resell the PSOne games the majority of the money had been spent, the only changes are for the smaller screen and two missing buttons (the orignal PS1 didn't have any analog sticks, so most games didn't require them).
The PS2 games will require a lot more work (since both the analog sticks and the four missing buttons will need to be accounted for) or an assessory that adds the extra buttons (which would make sony even more money).
After a period of time, they could even make a converter to convert the PS1 games you already own into PSP compatable types (and if its only dowload the remakes like Rploesser suggested, a UMD to launch the game).
This is a great plan for Sony (it will also force game devs to do a better job, more competition), just hope it dosen't backfire on them.
Even if it's 4 discs long, it shouldn't be 3gigs. There's alot of repeated data on those 4 discs, meaning that after the first disc, each disc would probably only add about 300 to 400 extra MBs. Then there's compression, using Gzip, you could bring a 700MB disc down to 300MB (results will vary). Of course, if this is truly an emulator, you could aways carry say 2 discs on one memory stick, and keep the other 2 on another stick or on your computer.
Well for starters final fantasy VII (the best FF game on the playstation) is on 3 disks (which are CD's) and if one CD holds 512mb... this means at the maximum it will take up 1.5gb. Basically the biggest sized playstation game is gonna take up 2gb max (the equvalent of 4 CD's)!
Since (on ebay) you can buy 2gb memory sticks for £40 at the minute (roughly the price of a game) i wouldn't worry too much
On to PS2 games... Crazy Taxi for example is actually on a CD not a DVD therefore takes up 512mb maximum. DVD's (at max) take up 4.7gb and im pretty certain alot of ps2 games dont fill up all this space.
Sony are also releasing the 4gb sticks soon which will be pretty sweet (im not sure if the 8gb's will work yet though). This is basically how these games will fit so stop worryin bout it!
I agree with many of the posts here saying that most of this stuff is out already in the form of homebrew, but to be fair the sony stuff will prob be better... you do get what you pay for! Take GPS for example.. the homebrew of this was not practical and i can't imagine the software was particually good either! Since GPS devices can cost about £400 i'd say an add on for the PSP with decent software would be pretty cool!
On a last note... isn't quite abit of homebrew now working on a 2.6 PSP? I don't really know for certain, or care coz I have a 1.5 but you probably aren't going to lose as much homebrew as some people are making out if you did upgrade?
"if one CD holds 512mb"
The CD's hold 750mb
Dude calm down, it's their PSP. They should do whatever the hell they want with it. I must admit you make some very good points, but the thought of having psx games on the psp is way to0 good to pass up. If I'm not mistaken though, can't you use homebrews on 2.0+?
Alright what the heck,I'm sorry to state the obvious or be the first to be flamed for it but c'mon,PS2 games cannot be straight emulated/remade for the psp with any ammount of its original quality intact. Just ask anyone who knows anything about the specs for the PS2 vs. PSP and they can tell you thats impossible. I think they threw in the "/PS2" just to entice and excite people about it,just as Rploesser stated about how they threw in the "playstation emulator" phrase. Theres no way the psp's anywhere near powerful to do that or even come close to running PS2 games so i really think we should disregard that as just bull they put in to get us ramoed to upgrade,althoug h I'm already close enough to the land of no return with firmware ver. 2.60 thanks to Shin Budokai but still.
Man, you just proved that you are the retarded here with your insulting comments.
You do what you want with you PSP and let the others do the same, *****.
and also, whats the *****ing point of arguing about final fantasy 7 being able to fit on memory stick. omfg firstly if it cant be fuking ported to psp cuz psp lacks in l2, r2, along with the second analogue
and if sony were to change this so it works on psp, the whole game has to be changed... would square do this? no *****ing way.. same with all other ps1 games.. omfg sony is so *****ing retarded, they're getting people hyped because of the release of ds lite.
sony.. u have lost to nintendo.. on portable so give up psp, and dont ***** up with ps3
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Yes, PS2 on the PSP.
Read this on speed compairison
http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/games/archives/2005/02/03/psp_officially_as_powerful_as_ps2.html
They also said "Modified". Like most people already mentioned, the controls, also they would have to tone some things down like when they release multiplatform games, they have to lower standards from Xbox to PS2.
Man lifebot2 chill out,if you read the other posts you'd already remember that most psone games dont even use the analog sticks and the first psone controller didnt even have anolog sticks to begin with,and if you even played much of the original Playstation back when it came out you'd also know that alot of of games for it barely ever utilized the L2 and R2 buttons and even when they did they were for crap that the game usually didnt need so it could be ommitted or tweaked as they see fit with these "modified" releases,so take it easy with all the bashing man. If they could make a camera and gps add on peripheral dont you think they could make a L2 and R2 add on as well?
Thanks for the link GiveHaste but that doesnt really give me anything to go on,aside from the tecnical aspects he talked about i pretty much had that idea already. But really lets face it,theres just no way you could play a PS2 game on the PSP,if that wree possible the games released for it so far would look and run much faster and better than they do. Ofcourse the quality of the graphics is great to me and very much as good as the psone,granted it seems that programmers are using different graphical "tricks" per-say to make certain effects and backgrounds etc. look just as good as a psone game but not coded or put in the same,such as if you've played Maverick Hunter X you'll notice some parts of the backgrounds in the game are just a single image with the kind of quality a png image has while when this kind of "still" bg was used in a psone console game it was coded in the same as a 3D moving bg so it looked the same and fit in more seamlessly. Bottom line,PSP is very impressively powerful but I dont think for an instant they could "port" or "modify" any PS2 game for the PSP like this and not majorly change the game or completely rehash it in the process. And man we should really take to the forums with this with all the comments its getting. lol
Man lifebot2 just go shut up. If you even played a DS and a PSP to compare you would know what you're talking about, instead you hear all these little 12 year olds ***** saying the DS is better then the PSP when half of them haven't even played either. I've played both and I can tell you the PSP is a better system overall. Not saying the DS is bad, which it isn't, it's just that there really isn't a game out for it that fully used the capabilities it was made for. Here he have this handheld that can play 3D games, yet we still keep getting bundles 2D games! What the hell? On PSP some of the first games such as Ridge Racer and Wipeout pure completely blew away the competition with beautiful visuals, long awesome game play, and one of the best features about Wipeout is that it has downloadable content so you can download more maps, music, cars and such. Another comparison would be this.. You're out on the road and you have a 4 hour drive. (your parents are driving) You play a game for 1-2 hours, now you're bored. Oh *****! now what? Well, with the PSP you can listen to music, look at pictures or watch movies. Looks like the only other thing you can do with the DS is nothing.
"DAMN I PASSED OUT WEN I READ ABOUT THE PS1/PS2 EMU FOR THE PSP OMFG THIS IS TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE TAKE DAT MICROSOFT HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH A"
Did you not know? microsoft doesnt have a handheld.. Stupid ass! ps3 delayed! Take that sony!
LMAO!
"Did you not know? microsoft doesnt have a handheld.. Stupid ass! ps3 delayed! Take that sony!"
he was probaly talking about the origami...
Dam people can go on and on. I don't know why i read every comment but now that i have i wish i didn't waste that half hour of my life. The main thing about this news is that sony is finally releasing the accessories we all pretty much expected. I think what they are doing is great and will certainly make the psp more entertaining. I for one will do the same as the above people have mentioned, which is wait till the hackers(people who know what they're doing) make sense of this. Only after sony releases this new firmware and accessories will we know for sure what we are capable of doing and i will decide based on the FaCtS and not speculation what to do.
Balmung-sama, the ps1 controllers had 2 analogues to begin with dipshet.... it is though true that not all of the games utilized the l2, and the r2 buttons.
but again there are tons of games that needs the second analogue. but regardless, sony has to modify the games so the game would be playable on the psp.
do you think sony has all the right to modify the game? no dipshet, probably their own games, where only few are good, games like ffvi wont even have chance. do you think square will modify the game so it fits on psp? now way they will going to waste their money doing that...
and omfg Balmung-sama, so you think the eyetoy will replace the l2, r2 buttons?
wtf so are you ganna start dancing with your face in the subway? pathetic..
sry, to interup[t but wat is the -DS LITE- anyway about that psp better than ds thing well i dont know what to say, okay i'm a nintendo fan as also a sony i own a ds and also a psp the different things that i saw was that psp got good games as well as crappy ones, but as we know sony money is always the option but for nintendo all they want is to satisfied there fan by producing good games to entertain them, but they must know that they have fan out there that are not 7 to 12 years old come on, we can see that psp have allready notice that but nintendo .......not.
anyway try to see that every psp games that comes out have an updates, they all trying to get us to upgrade our firmware well we not that stupid as you can see there plan did not work as well they plan, so anyway that psp revolution is another way to get us to upgrade it and i almost fell for it so anyway i'll stick to my 1.5, but i just hope that the white psp that is coming out at the end of march is not at 2.90 or 2.6 or i'll wild out cuz i've been waiting for this s.h.i.t for way to long so anywy write me back ........
Name calling is of the ignorant mind.. "sony.. u have lost to nintendo.. on portable so give up psp" basically you did, and if you want to continue arguing you might want to go back to school and learn proper grammar and spelling so we don't have to lower our standards just to understand what you type.
Virus, http://www.lik-sang.com/news.php?artc=3808.
Are you saying that sony has lost to nintendo in the portable department? No,you're wrong about that and there is no use hating the fact that nintendo finally has some real competition in the portable gaming department. And what do you mean for the psp to give up this is still an ongoing battle that the psp is winning by the way
Hey, lifebot2! So the original PlayStation controllers had analog sticks, huh? Care to explain this then, smart guy?
http://www.gamestop.com/product.asp?product%5Fid=900110
The PlayStation controllers did not get the analog sticks until the first Dual Shock controllers came out a year or two after the launch of the first PlayStation.
I remember those controllers. Man, those were the days... Playing Battle Arena Toshiden. (If I remember correctly that was the name)
heh
OWNED!!!
I swore I wouldnt answer back to lifebot but now that someones pointed out the obvious to him,and with image reference,let me second anonymous on that...you got OWNED,and by pure obvious facts. Alright,all done here...
Well this is the way sony is fighting back the homebrew community, oh yeah, and id rather pay for a good ps2 game for ma psp, cuz all the psp games are crap at the moment
Well this is the way sony is fighting back the homebrew community, oh yeah, and id rather pay for a good ps2 game for ma psp, cuz all the psp games are crap at the moment
excuse but does anybody know where i a can find a nds emulator that actually work, i mean really work.....
thanx
excuse but does anybody know where i a can find a nds emulator that actually work, i mean really work.....
thanx
why would sony release ane "emulator" not only would this confuse no0bs but it would open the system for hacks again, I can promise you that they will be ports that don't require an emulator.
lol... what the hell is this crap... the ps1 game will hv a cost to it because sony want more and more $....
the only person who can solve the ps1 is pacmanfan... and i would rather wait for him than pay sony lots of $$$$$
go go pacmanfan!! we'll be always waiting
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If sony were to sell the ps ports for under about 13$ i and probaly a lot of other people would by the ports because a lot of ps games are really worth the value and are dying to be made portable
but if sony tries to sell them for 21$ then i would wait for for an emulator too.
hmm looks like we lost lots and lots of ppl from our side(the homebrew community). They crossed over to Sony thanks to this. Well, they will soon.
Well I think this is all nice, and come on guys how can some people wonder how they're going to fit PS1 games on a memstick, Y's ark of napishtim is a ps2 game and it was ported to the psp and the iso for the game is probably 500 - 600 megs, so a few changes and voila and this is why 100% sure they are going to charge for the games, since someone is going to have to make this modifications. The question is how much are they going to charge???? hope not too much, I'm still sticking with 1.5 for the time being though, but this is a nice attempt by sony..... now if they would just stop trying to kill of homebrew
The "screenshots of 3.0" I saw had nothing to do with downloading games. They showed that there will be no GAME extension. I just can't wait for GPS. That'll be in my car!
The "screenshots of 3.0" I saw had nothing to do with downloading games. They showed that there will be no GAME extension. I just can't wait for GPS. That'll be in my car!
i hope the modified games will be available on net for free :):):)
yeah this is great
just think, ther will be SOME way in which you can get the roms for free, which would definately be like the only reason to upgrade from 1.50.
PORTABLE FINAL FANTASY 7-9!!!!!
thats awesome... but wtf slffl youre screwed in the head.....
if sony said that we will be able to play ps1/ps2 games is because we'll can
that would be awesome if a could play gta san andreas on my psp
the *****ing ds is not but a piece of ***** made for kids
and those who talk bad about the psp are jelous because their mammas did not bought them a psp because they couldn't afford it
*****KKKKKKKKKK KKKKKKKKKKKKKKK KKKkk DS
Ok a PSX emulator sounds nice, but how can we play those games without L2 and R2 (and R3)buttons???
just wondering. . .
I don't need that emulator, already got a PSX, PSone, PS2(Big), PS2(small), PSP(Black), PSP(White), PSP(Brick), well maybe it fits into my collection, Release it soon Sony!
all that sony is doing is adding features to the new firmware that we already have on homebrew and if sony ads new features, some hackers are going to find a way to put it on 1.5 anyway im NEVER going to upgrade my psp to 1.5
btw don't forget that tomorrow is the one year anniversary since the greatest game system of all time came out(the psp incase you were wondering)
isn't it possible to take apart the ps1 emulator when it comes out and tweak it to use iso's four our own homebrew perposes, that would be great!
Is all of this really that big a deal??? We all paid for a PSP long before any homebrew was out. When most people got their PSPs their first thought wasn't "OOOOOOH lets see if I can hack this". Some will upgrade, others will not. Somewhere down the road some brain tweaked hacker is going to pull off a ps1 emu regardless of what sony does and imho more power to them. The reason I love my psp is simple. With the addition of my psp2tv I have all the systems at my finger tips. I have Genesis, nes, snes, tg16, neo geo, and a partridge in a pear tree, and I can play all of them on either the psp or via. psp2tv on my flatplanel. Considering I paid 600 for my Neo geo back in the day, not to mention the other systems I have owned I think that 249.00 + 119.00 (psp2tv) was one hell of a deal to have all my systems portable. If sony releases an emu or whatever they want to call it for ps1/ps2 games more power to them. I won't be upgrading untill said brain tweaked hacker manages to stick all the other emulators on firmware ver. x.xx. I don't know if this was really on topic but heck after a 1/2 bottle of captin morgans you are lucky I am even still talking about the PSP (=o)
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finally they realised they can use it to their advantage
When does all this happen anyway?
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Perhaps the "psp emulator" thing SONY will release in a future firmware update will be a 1.5 killer and not affect UMD game sales if they play their cards right. SONY just has to release a few decent games and make sure they are easy to pirate, many people will update just to play them for free. After that, they can just cancel the "PS1 Emulator" project and blame the cancellation on those who pirate games. By the time people realize what is going on it will be too late to switch back to a firmware version that supports any form of homebrew again.
Anyway, I will not update and may eventually switch to a GP32X system when PSP homebrew is dead strictly as a matter of principle. There is a certain freedom in willingly deciding what to do with a product I have purchased instead of being told what I can not do with it.
hey people heres an idea how about we all take a psp and shove one up our asses. you know why? because the 360 is an ol mighty god!!
omg..... sony is releasing an emulator.... wow.... anyways, now that the white psp is comming to america, i cant wait! I'm gonna bustout my tekken 3 iso (if it works...) if not i'll buy tekken 5 DR
I can't believe I wasted money on PSP... I could have a 360 with Oblivion right now... *****
Yah, and you could have all the signature MSN crashes and bugs to go with it LOL
ridge racer revolution has 16mb without music. music may add 50mb in mp3 or aac... what`s wrong about downloading a game, which is smaller than your firmware-upgrade??? and resolution of most ps1 games was 320x240. so why should it look worse on psp... another thing is, that sony used uncompressed .tim images often during ps1 times. and why has a psp less buttons than a ps1? ever heard of a controller without analog sticks. heard of the legendary negcon from namco?
is right. pont.
Sound and GPS will be awsome to my car :)
good work sony!
Sure, at first I was upset cause I waited to get a PSP,
so my firmware was 2.5 ......
I was saddened that I'd lost most of my emu capabilities, but I got over it.
But all the games sucked....
Then there was Maverick Hunter X it was cool.
But my paperweight still didn't get much use once I beat it.
Flash support? I've been waiting for this.
PS/PS2 Games? I never got a PS2 so this'll be cool,
and I've always loved the PS1 I got rid of.
A Camera? Sounds pretty interesting.
I can't wait!
the eye toy should be used with ur hands!
Has anyone got a link to the original announcement on a official sony site, those slides don't look real to me, has this been reported elsewere? could it be fake?
I sure do Hope that the psp eye-toy will be an actual camera to so u can take pics instead of just video chat
I am sellig my 512 MB since i Got 2 GB any buyers leave Name
and ill get back to u