PS1 Emulator for PSP Showcased at E3: Ridge Racer Running Smooth on PSP |
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Kas Hirai showed off the upcoming PS1 emulator for the PSP at E3 tonight, giving PSP fans everywhere something to look forward to. He downloaded the game to the PSP's Memory Stick, chose the game from the PSP's menu and started playing. The title he demonstrated was the original Ridge Racer for PS1 and according to all accounts the game ran smoothly and looked great on the PSP. This is good news for all of us who have been waiting to learn more about Sony's PS1 emulator for PSP. Now all we need to know is how much it's going to cost to download games!
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Yea first one to comment of this
first jump and comment.SwEET cant wait fo rthis to come out.
Interesting. So they're demonstrating it now? And one already runs smoothly? My only hope is FF7 comes out for download. That does, and I will finally believe there is a god out there. Playing FF7 on the go...just WOW.
A PS1 emulator is much better then any homebrew out there. being able to play FVII on the PSP would be so godly id buy a 2nd psp for it.
First!!!
wow. there are so many games that i used to love that i can finally play smoothly. i wish we had more info or a video. thanks for the news though;)
I already have 2 Psp's so will enjoy the best of both worlds.
first comment, i have two psps also w00t for being richer then those poor *****gots
i like the ps1 emu but i will wait for when it can be made for 1.50 .there is no way i would give up my snes,turbograph ic16,nes,genesis,m ega drive, NeoGeo,and soon to be n64 ! for my 1.5 to play ps1 games now! i have more than 400 games for me to play just in the emus i have and thats not including n64 and homebrew games!so i'll wait ; ]
Yep this is gunna need a new firmware to run I bet....but the devs have got a lot on their plates with this one!
I watched this live and yes it looks amazing, but my real hope is that we get alot of games for no, or atleast a reasonable price. I wish they'd just allow for the conversion of games, and the option to remap controls so you can choose when you need the R2 L2 and such.
Here are some questions I have for $ony..
How much will each game cost?
How big will the games be?
Will you be able to transfer them off the memory card (backup)?
If you can back them up, what would prevent people from "sharing"? The only thing I can think off is the encrypted file will somehow "tie" itself to your MAC address. What else is unique to each psp?
I will be getting Suikoden 1 & 2 if they are not released in english on UMD by then.
I'm buying a nes psp tpday from a dude at school, just in the nick of time. To bads it's a 1.50 and I'll have to up grade it since I already have a 1.50. Sike If it was I would never up grade it, but it's already at 2.50 so it will probally stay there untill this ps1 emulator comes out.
Hawk
PS1 emulator sounds nice... but...
-Chances are, there will be a playable homebrew PS1 emulator which will allow you to keep all your current homebrew and you won't pay overinflated prices (and use your legally ripped isos from your old ps1).
-N64 emulator!!!
-SNES emulator!
-No other homebrew of any kind (at least until a new exploit is found) which means no more psp stepmania :(
I'll stick with 1.5, thank you very much :)
id like to see some screens of this...
PS1 has tons of great games, reguardless of graphics, the games are still fantastic. this is going to be one major psp update feature, in my eyes, and may be a key in getting me to upgrade from 1.5.. or just buy a 2nd psp!
i am not gonna upgrade for a ps1 emu. it might be because i never owned a ps1 or am i really into the whole ff series but anygame that i would really have to play that is ps1 i could just find it for really cheap at a store adn play it on my ps2 and who really needs portable ps1 games anyways
Does anyone think that this emulator will open the door for homebrew on 2.7+??
I'm hoping that someone figures out how to hack this, and then EVERYONE can upgrade/enjoy all the homebrew... It would be nice to have all the new features/codecs, AND all my emulators too... Now it would be a realllly hard decision if that meant that I had to say goodbye to my iso loader.
Would you trade iso loaders for JUST homebrew?
well who needs portable snes, 64 and all those other emulators? we do nukka! the ps1 emulator will be awesome and they better have some motor toon grand prix up in that biznatch
first comment!
How many games can something like this support anyway???
FF7 was something like 2+ gigs and on 3 discs.
And Armored Core uses L2, and R2. so that's out... so are Colony Wars, and Blast Radius for the same reason.
I dunno how excited I am for the actual emulator... maybe just the possibility of a new exploit
what ever happened to pacmanfan and his emu and where can i get a source for it? if he gave up
think this would lead to a expolit
think this would lead to a expolit
Maaan I would love to play nightmare creatures and twisted metal one or two on my psp. But Hombrew enabled psps are priceless right about now. They practically can go in a museum. They Show how far weve come as gamers and programers. Some dedicate their life to hombew and its because of the psps now that we know great guys like pocs and regible. Sorry. Ima buy a second psp so i can play all of the newest games and such.........yeaaaaaaaaaaaaa h!!!!!
i saw this it ran at atleast 60 fps it ran really smooth if its impossible for 60 den sorry dun flame me but thats how smooth it ran and sound was perfect also i doubt it would open ***** for 2.7 no offense but remember wit loco roco it was signed by sony thats the reason it worked i think itll be the same with this id like it to open a way for homebrew but i doubt it i just hope someone would be able to see how they made this emu or something like studying the files maybe and making a free version of it that would be nice
I want to play vigante 8 or any rpg game like tales of legenia or legend of dragoon. Those games are awsome.
i think once this is released and the hackers get a hold of it, us 1.5lifers will have acces to a ps1 emu.
and i bet our version will own sony's. imagine the possibilties....
probably rip iso right off our old ps1 discs
copy thier emu n make it better
all the hombrew ish we've come to love...
man thx sony but homebrew owns ur a$$
to all the people that say they wanna play the big rpg's it all comes back to how will you possibly fit (esp legend of dragoon which is 4 discs ~2.6gb?) on a memory stick granted all of us who have a 1.5 use atleast a gig but theres no way i'm shelling out another 200+ for a 4gb memory stick. and as people have said theres no way i'm giving up all the homebrew that i have on the 1.5.
This is starting to sound like when sony announced the AVC codec compatibilty or the browser or even the flash player ~sigh~
I doubt memory stick space will be as big of an issue as you think. You have to consider that when those games were made they didn't have the compression technology that we have today.
If you had to chose between a limited amount of priced ps1 roms and an entire library of n64, snes, nes, genesis, neo geo, and hombrew games which would you chose? I think we all now what $ony hopes we answer. If you have a 2nd psp go for it if you dont mind paying for games that you already own. My guess is the roms will be worth 10$.
Where we will get the Ps1 isos from!? I wouldn't pay for my games again!
#30 is right. data compression has really evolved in the past ten years. FF7, for example... the PS1 version was 3 discs. assuming each disc has 600MB on it, that means its at around 1.8GB. Well, a "internet special" version of it is only just under 1GB. and if they take that and break it up into 3 segments just like the original, then you're talking about roughly 333MB per FF7 "disc", which i think sounds perfectly fine.
Although personally i think with the massive amount of crap thats in FF7, UMD would be a much better choice for it.
And I also was wondering the same things as #11... pricing and backup. I'm guessing you'd have to "register" and pay for the games online via wifi, similar to how you activate flash and wma playback. and if the game is on ur memstick, but you havent registered and paid for it, you cant play it. that's the most logical way to do it, but they will probably have a much lamer way of doing it that involves no backup-ability, so you have to delete and re-download if you need the memstick space... just a guess, though. purely speculation.
FFVII
FFVIII
FFIX
FFT
FF Chonicles (Chrono Trigger and FFIV)
Xenogears
Legend of Dragoon
Just a few things that will make me incredibly crazy if I could DL them, now there's the Space issue, I wonder how much it'll take, how many mem sticks will I need...?
No matter. ANY of those on the road, is worth a million bucks for me
Not only data compression, but sound and video compression as well....most of FF7 is cutscenes and music which can probably be re-encoded.
This would make me upgrade if I could get any ps1 game for no more then $5.
I'm guessing they will be $10-20 per game. That's really nothing more than a guess. It's too bad Sony didnt' announce pricing as well as more details (answers to my questions) concerning the ps1 emu
sound and video compression = data compression
lets vote shatterdome for dumbest poster ever
i feel so srry 4 u suckers that cant get 1.5 psp. i live on an American Military base in japan and wehave like 300 1.5 psps left. suckers
What if you want to play your own PS1 games on the PSP, Will they offer a piece of software that will let you rip and transfer your ps1 game to the PSP?
I live in an American base in Germany and we have like 1000000 1.5 psps left :)
Just buy a PSONE and a flip screen. Legend of Dragoon is always in my car :) .
http://www.playstation-e3.com/e3/index.html
I think it's the third video
I'm on a space station, and WE have infinite 1.5 PSPs out here because we have replicators.
it would look strange to take your car into the bus, wouldnt it?
nevertheless, i believe there will be a strong fight for downloadable games between nintendo (offering nes, gb[c/a] and sega emulation obviously) and sony (offering ps1 emulation only).
i would NOT be surprised if we see the same system being implemented for the ds soon, just with the same content as for the wii.
anyways, the price will decide whether it will be used or not. 10$ for a old game you already baught? imho too much. but we know sony, and thus this seems to be the right price range for them.
also, maybe you have to pay like some monthly fee for a "game flatrate".... who knows.
I'm in my bathroom, and I have infinite numbers of psp because I ***** them every time. Every ***** is a psp and I'm the happiest guy on earth..yeah!!!!
okay, let´s see....
give me an abonnement option for 10 bucks a month
being able to download and play any PSP games
they offer, maybe starting with 10 titles, slowly increasing number......
let me be able to save these games personally,
give me an option to use these games on another PSP too, if my PSP is broken or whatever, should be able to register at least 2 or 3 PSPs at on time....
Then, and only then, I would take my second PSP and upgrade to whatever firmware.....
But.... for sure we will never see this...
of course they will offer each game for 10-20 bucks, playable only on one PSP, and.... lots of hackers will work hard to crack this emu.... and will succeed I guess.....
so what ???
You have an asspect ratio of 16:9, Bathroom PsP?
What about the games that use L2, R2 and the right analog stick on the PS1? Are they just not gonna make them available, or make some sort of wqrkaround?
guess what ? ? ? ? these are going to be PORTS, you won't be using ISOS. DON'T expect all your favorite games to be available.
i think this will be a F***in amazein thing to have, resi evil on the bus, ff7 in the bath, gran turismo in bed etc etc. Also the amount of people saying they dont think the games will fit on there psps i hav a thought. Games made for the ps1/ps2 are intended to fit upon a larger screen (TV) whereas if they are made for psp they only hav 480x272 pixels, which will reduce the file size immensly from the amount of 'waste' pixels tht ca be removed. Also, they are probably thinkin of the pspers out there with only 32mb sticks so there could be a way to fit 1 game on them aswell. All in all, the chances that the file sizes will b the same as the originals is INCREDIBLY low e.g. ff7 = roughly 2gig, on psp mayb 50mb-150mb (just a guess)
3 people thought that they were the first ! lol
Once again, the memory space concerns.... Sony really needs to address this so I can quit repeating myself.
Yes, as others here have mentioned, compression technology has come a long way since the PS1 days. All of those FMV sequences in the Squaresoft games, for example, could be re-encoded in MPEG-4, which would seriously cut down on the space required. Also, the screen resolution of the PSP is lower than a standard NTSC television, so the textures and such don't need to be as detailed if they want to maintain roughly the same image quality. Making those smaller would also save a lot of space. Leaving them the same size as the original, could conceivably improve image quality on a smaller screen. Finally, for a lot of the multi-disc Squaresoft games, you have to remember that a lot of the information on those discs is redundant. For example, by the time you're on Disc 3 of FFVII, you can go back to a lot of places in the game from earlier in the game without having to put the other discs back in. That's because all of the world map information and the game engine data is repeated on each disc. Yes, if you took each disk at face value, you're around the 2 GB mark for FFVII. Consider how much of the data is redundant and how much the video cut-scenes can be compressed and you can cut down on the file size tremendously. I'd say it should be fairly easy to get FFVII well under 1 GB.
And to the guy talking about getting a game on a 32MB card, keep dreaming. There's no way that's going to happen. Sony themselves have seemingly admitted that's not enough since they put out the 1 GB value pack. The 32MB card is only intended for things like save games and a small handful of other things like pictures or pictures. It's just something to get your feet wet with the system and whets your appetite for more, which makes you go out and buy a bigger stick making more money for Sony.
***** downloading ill just make iso's out of the games i already own
Well I think that Sony should sell a program which converts your old games into the type that the psp recognizes? Anyone agree?
can someone post the link to the video of ridge racer for ps1 emulator running on the psp? i cant seem to find it on any site. i really want to see how this runs. thanks!!
nevermind found it on this site, i didnt refresh the page, lol.
The fact is that most games with multiple discs were that way simply because of cutscenes.
I know for a fact that FF7 was multiple discs simply because of the cutscenes, the same data was burnt onto each disc. Things like reduced resolution, re-encoding cutscenes into MPEG4, making games one file (meaning that they share data already encoded onto previous discs) and compression will make most games more than resonable.
Well someone said FF7 was 2 Gig on 3 discs.
Well that is sorty of true.
If you make the game a whole, it is only 1 Gig.
If someone had the knowledge, it would not take long to do.
So FF7 is possible on PSP.
ScoreKeeper
PS. Now why would you buy BOF 3 PSP when you can play the PS1 at a cheaper price on the PSP.
saying a game is out because it uses l2 and r2 i just dumb.....there are ways around that...and size is not a problem to since all old psx cds are 700MB or something...
nocomment
i hope they bring FFIX to PSP, it's my favorite FF game,
i'd also like too see Origins, yeah.....
compression isn't a problem, i just gonna wait for the homebrew community to crack it.
NEVER UPGRADE!
i dont know why would you have all ff7 disk in the psp. after all each one is WELL over 25 hrs each .... ALl this damn upcomning game and firmware crap and where the HELL is GRAN TURISMO!
This games are downloaded from the internet, the cost = ?..
But i think that no copy protection are added, ;).. hope not.. Downloadet all classic ps1 games 4 free... Long live Torrent / DC
If copy protection are added, the downloaded games, must be posible to download to PC...
Or are sony planning a 20gb Memstick =)
Just that, pay 4 a game.. and have to delete if no more space on memstick..
Sorry 4 my english..
mabe you can put them on your computer then share over the net
Once FFVII makes it's way to PSP, sure, it'll be a big blow to homebrew.
However, people MAY be able to exploit it and/or rip parts of 2.70 firmware to use on 1.5 psps. :)
Additionally, FFVII is one of the greatest games of all times. I think this will help a lot more people get interested in PSP which means more support, more games, and more homebrew development.
Hooray for everyone.
Additionally, PS1 games on a smaller screen makes everything LOOK BETTER. Whenever you shrink the screen size, everything gets sharper than on the big screen. So games look better as well. :)
ok dudes, sony is gunna make ps3 online free, and they know it will help sells, especially cuz da price is gunna be real high..
so, u thinkin that games that might be playable only on 1 psp, and uniquely encoded will be free?
it sounds perfectly reasonable, because
1 sales for psp would increase
2 likewise for mem cards, though the games are prob gunna be compressed
3 it may make loads of peeps update, who wouldnt want free stuff?!
4 if they aint gunna be free theres going to be lots of piracy
-crait
#39 and 54, u both make a great point!
that also would be a great money maker for Sony!
-crait
w00t n i have a 1 gig stick, free isos here we come!
cool, im glad i never played FF7 now...gonna get that as soon as it come out
If sony reduced teh memory size, it would mean that they took the ps1 games, and remade them. That means you won't be able to do that by yourselves. YOU CANNOT MAKE ISOS OUT OF YOUR OLD PS1 GAMES. FACE THE FACTS!
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I dont think you guys realise the step forward this actually is, this could be the key to finding a new exploit in firmware, or simply, a step forward to getting homebrew back on the psp.
It doesn't really make a difference to since I have all the emulators and roms I want for my computer and I can play them much smoother on a much larger screen with a faster framerate than on a psp.
OK I heard something about the 3.0 update thats pretty cool but I did something amazing 2 days ago... ive used the MPH Firmware laoder, and added some stuff in the flash etc. to make it run a little faster and it turns out i loaded the 2.7 firmware!
I thought i was screwed from homebrew but when i restarted it it was back to 1.50!!!! and i can do it over and over again!!
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so psp is gonna have this ps1 emulator
if they do like the mac address for each game then there has to be a way to change the mac address on the game
plus i dont even know what im talking about
but the games that uses l2 r2 right analog stick they might do like they did in socom ftb
how could we play a ps1 game that needs L2 R2 button functioning? still having doubts ..... mothapack this sh*t! wahahahah!hope sony will make a solution out of this....
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