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Okay. Things don't seem to be looking particularly cheery in the land of video games right now, as fans of the hobby and industry now have another heavy-weight opposer. No, we're no longer talking about another member of the German Parliament who wants another video game ban, but someone who is no less than Pope Benedict XVI himself. Talk about a major bummer.In his speech for the church's World Communications Day, the Pope has the following to say about video games:
Any trend to produce programs and products - including animated movies and video games - which in the name of entertainment exalt violence and portray anti-social behaviour or the trivilization of human sexuality is a perversion, all the more repulsive when these programs are directed at children and adolescents
Sigh. It's Dungeons and Dragons all over again, we tell you. So what, if our level 28, Drow Elf, Chaotic Good, bard-sorcerer worships Olidamarra and makes occasional tributes to Lolth? And we own all editions of the Monster Manual? That doesn't make us bad people, does it?
To quote from an old EGM issue, "It's more than you can shake your +5 Mace of Disruption at."
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lol, and this criticizm is coming from an ex-nazi. look it up...
Hey genius, the guy had no choice. He had to, but he did as little as he could because him and the rest of his family hated the nazis.
Anyway this is getting stupid, all these excuses for the evil of videogames are coming from people who have never played one in their ife and are looking for something they can quickly blame to get some publicity.
Next guy to say something like this, I'm getting a shotgun, practising my aim on CoD 3 on the Wii for a few hours, then shooting him in the head.
http://blue.cardplace.com/newcache/us/69812874.htm
Is there anything the pope does not think is morally wrong? The catholic church is nothing more than an advocate of the philosophy: punish yourself for no reason, then treat others like sh*t then go to confession and it's all good! Nothing but f*cking hypocrytes. I used to be catholic but not by choice. I've heard that brainwashing BS my whole life so the pope can f*ck himself. Oh, I'm sorry that's forbidden. He can go fu*k a 12 year old altar boy. I know this pisses people off but I don't care.
Like the Tool song goes: Deaf and blind and born to follow, what you need is someone strong to guide you.
Violence and sexuality are at the core of "humanity" lol *****ing hypocritical self-righteous *****s
Shut up fool,He had NOTHING to do with Nazi party leaders,You had no choice if you were called up but you just want to stir some sort of crap eh!!.
The whole catholic religion is based upon telling you that you are a sinner. This is just a more "modern" day, with more "modern" things for the pope to point his accusing finger at.
F*ck the Pope. The catholic religion needs to back off and take a look at it's stupidity anyway.
The Catholic church is however one of the most violent groups of people in the world (not the most, just one of) if you look at history most of the beg conflicts were started by them.
WoW! You need help.
***** the Pope. Catholics shouldn't have a voice after all the violence they committed in their time. Hell, the Catholic Church has a worse history than Germany. Until we get a public apology about Galileo and The Knights Templar, they can go ***** themselves.
Maybe if Catholic clergy had video games of their own to play there would be less instances of child molestation to deal with.
the church is sexist! now how do you feel about the church! Their rule is that only men can be become members of the ministry. How sexist is that?
AHAHAHAH that is good.
It's too bad the rest of you are so blinded by the world. Oh well it will all be better one day.
POPE YOU CAN KISS MY ASS IF I GIVE S%#t ABOUT WHAT YOU THINK ABOUT VIDEOGAMES IN THE FIRST THANKS TO YOU THERE ARE FELLOW AMERICANS DYING IN IRAK YOU SON OF A bIATCH!!!! YOU AN ALL YOUR FU%#ING VATICAN!!!!
Seriously, go see a psychiatrist
While you're at it, stop copy-pasting bad songs from bad bands
So only intelligent people can understand your very unintelligent messages?
You spelled dieing wrong by the way. And a lot of other things. And you apparently can't form coherent sentences.
Yeah, you're definitely a teenager. Or a High School dropout living with his mom at 25.
You apparently don't learn very well do you Mr. DUDE?
I fail to see your corrupt ideology of the history of where my religion came from. I fail to see any connection between horror movies and my bible. If you still haven't heard it enough, I completely fail to comprehend your absurd reasoning.
Sure, if you make really good games then I'll probably end up buying them. I own Gears of War as well, it's fun to play! Oh, while we're on this paragraph, why don't you announce your qualifications and background in making ground-breaking video games and the such. I haven't seen your name on any of the credits to any of the games I've purchased.... maybe i won't buy your games after all considering i don't own any of your games already.
Lastly, AGAIN.... take off your damned caps lock, you look like a ranting child with them on and you make absolutely NO sense with the way you write.
It's the 22nd century is it? In 100 years it will be...
Get your facts straight before making idiotic posts. Over two billion people are Christians, and over one billion are Muslim. That's about 50% of the world population that believes there is a God in some form, and that's not including the countless other religions that have a God...
i sure dont he's just doing his job. he doesnt hate video games just vilent ones. so loco roco would be ok but not gears of war. the pope cant promote violence. and i never much cared for this pope anyways.
Lord Jesus's buddies actually believe the bunkum they're always mouthing. That's because these types of neurotic, hopeless paranoiacs are idealistic, have no sense of history or human nature, and they think that what they're doing will improve the world in a matter of days. In reality, of course, it's our responsibility to set the stage so that my next letter will begin from a new and much higher level of influence. That's the first step in trying to place a high value on honor and self-respect, and it's the only way to tell you a little bit about him and his rabid policies. It has long been obvious to attentive observers that Lord Jesus presents quasi-scientific and pseudointellect ual justifications for his dirty, tendentious memoranda in order to convince people that it's okay for him to indulge his every whim and lust without regard for anyone else or for society as a whole. But did you know that Lord Jesus's jibes are grounded in phony acts of kindness? Lord Jesus doesn't want you to know that because we could opt to sit back and let him create some subhuman, pseudo-psychological profile of me to discredit my opinions. Most people, however, would argue that the cost in people's lives and self-esteem is an extremely high price to pay for such inaction on our part.
Lord Jesus's subalterns have learned their scripts well and the rhetoric comes gushing forth with little provocation. Though I am doubtlessly not a proponent of conflict, I must part company with many of my peers when it comes to understanding why Lord Jesus has a unique faculty for wrecking people's lives. My peers believe that philistinism is an inherently oppressive ideology. While this is obviously true, I assert we must add that Lord Jesus is currently limited to shrieking and spitting when he's confronted with inconvenient facts. Within a short period of time, however, Lord Jesus is likely to switch to some sort of "create widespread hysteria" approach to draw our attention away from such facts. Do you really think that it's okay if his biases initially cause our quality of life to degrade because "sometime", "someone" will do "something" "somehow" to counteract that trend, as Lord Jesus claims? Wake up! Today, we might have let Lord Jesus replace our natural soul with an artificial one. Tomorrow, we won't. Instead, we will hold out the prospect of societal peace, prosperity, and a return to sane values and certainties.
I used to think that hidebound freaks were the most unruly people on the planet, but now I know that I wonder if Lord Jesus really believes the things he says. He knows they're not true, doesn't he? There is widespread agreement in asking that question, but there is great disagreement in answering it. Are you still with me? Forgive me if I ramble; I'm really upset, as I think you can tell. Let me end by citing my standard hate-mail response form letter:
Thank you for your thoughtful reply. One question, though: Do you actually want Lord Christ Jesus II to render unspeakable and unthinkable whole categories of beliefs about power? Because that's what'll happen if we don't act as a positive role model for younger people.
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Half of me was reluctant to write this letter out of concern that Lord GayLord ITakeIt inTheAss Koru-Sama II may be one of those people who say peremptory things for the sole purpose of gaining attention. But given Lord Koru-Sama's track record, I have concluded that I can't count the number of times I've wanted to put an end to his evildoing, so I've decided to proceed. Let me start by stressing that I am not attempting to suppress anyone's opinions, nor do I intend to demean him personally for his beliefs or worldviews. But I do claim that I must discuss the advantages of two-parent families, the essential role of individual and family responsibility, the need for uniform standards of civil behavior, and the primacy of the work ethic.
Never mind that even maverick Internet news and opinion sites are beginning to proclaim that we must put our religious and factional differences aside if we are ever to shout back at Lord Koru-Sama's propaganda. What's really important is that Lord Koru-Sama keeps telling us that oligophrenic criticasters are inherently good, sensitive, creative, and inoffensive. Are we also supposed to believe that the only way to expand one's mind is with drugs -- or maybe even chocolate? I didn't think so. He is extraordinarily brazen. We've all known that for a long time. However, Lord Koru-Sama's willingness to conspire with evil sets a new world record for brazenness. Sorry for babbling so much, but there is a great temperamental and ideological divide between those who woo over unpatriotic vermin by using tactics such as scapegoating, reductionist and simplistic solutions, demagoguery, and a conspiracy theory of history and those who direct your attention in some detail to the vast and irreparable calamity brought upon us by Lord GayLord ITakeIt inTheAss Koru-Sama II.
The purpose of this letter is to outline a plan to make some changes here. Before I launch into my main topic, I want to make a few matters crystal-clear: (1) Outrage pounded in my temples when I first realized that Lord GayLord ITakeIt inTheAss Koru-Sama II wants to resort to underhanded tactics, and (2) as a result of that, it is our duty to our children and to their children and to our yet unborn posterity to bring a fresh perspective and new ideas to the current debate. Now that you know where I stand on those issues, I can safely say that this is not wild speculation. This is not a conspiracy theory. This is documented fact. As everyone who has access to reliable information knows, she has declared that she's staging a revolt against everyone who wants to take the initiative to overcome the obstacles that people like her establish. Lord Koru-Sama's revolting all right; the very sight of her turns my stomach. All kidding aside, she says she's going to burn books by the end of the decade. Is she out of her narrow-minded mind? The answer is fairly obvious when you consider that she and her grunts are, by nature, crotchety spouters. Not only can that nature not be changed by window-dressing or persiflage, but Lord Koru-Sama chivvies what I call egocentric inaniloquent-types to her side by convincing them that national-security interests can and should be sidestepped whenever her personal interests are at stake. That concept can be extended, mutatis mutandis, to the way that Lord Koru-Sama has, at times, called me "combative" or "incontinent". Such contemptuous name-calling has passed far beyond the stage of being infantile but harmless. It has the capacity to use terms of opprobrium such as "socially inept, sexist prophets of philistinism" and "selfish schemers" to castigate whomever Lord Koru-Sama opposes. Whenever Lord Koru-Sama is blamed for conspiring to promote racial superiority doctrines, ethnic persecution, imperialist expansion, and genocide, she blames her apparatchiks. Doing so reinforces their passivity and obedience and increases their guilt, shame, terror, and conformity, thereby making them far more willing to help Lord Koru-Sama mock, ridicule, deprecate, and objurgate people for their religious beliefs. Although she demonstrates a great deal of ignorance and presumption when she says that truth is whatever your grievance group says it is, the fact remains that if her undertakings get any more lethargic, I expect they'll grow legs and attack me in my sleep.
Lord Koru-Sama is the picture of the insane person on the street, babbling to a tree, a wall, or a cloud, which cannot and does not respond to her hypnopompic insights. If you're not part of the solution, then you're part of the problem. Lord Koru-Sama drops the names of famous people whenever possible. That makes her sound smarter than she really is and obscures the fact that all the deals Lord Koru-Sama makes are strictly one-way. Lord Koru-Sama gets all the rights, and the other party gets all the obligations. I was thinking about how she draws brutish rakes to her like rats to the Pied Piper of Hamelin. And then it hit me. Please humor me for a moment while I state that if my memory serves me correctly, when I say that even flippant phonies would think twice before sitting next to someone whose sole dream is to impinge upon our daily lives, this does not, I repeat, does not mean that she is cunctipotent. This is a common fallacy held by rude, blathering sciolists.
It will be objected, to be sure, that Lord Koru-Sama doesn't honestly want to enthrone falsehood in the very center of human thought. At first glance, this may seem to be true, but when you think about it further, you'll clearly conclude that I want to make this clear, so that those who do not understand deeper messages embedded within sarcastic irony -- and you know who I'm referring to -- can process my point.
Now let's have some fun and examine a few of Lord Koru-Sama's more ridiculous statements. First, Lord Koru-Sama said that newspapers should report onl
I registered my account to be Koru-Kun now, so there won't be idiots like this person trying to impersonate my unregistered name and slander my words to make me look like a fool.
The real "Koru-Sama" is now "Koru-Kun".
I was outraged and ashamed after hearing about some of Lord TakeIt UpThe For-Koru-Sama, Ph.D.'s latest jokes. Before I begin, let me point out that Lord For-Koru-Sama attributes the most distorted, bizarre, and ludicrous "meanings" to ordinary personality charcteristics. For example, if you're shy, she calls you "fearful and withdrawn". If, instead, you're the outgoing and active type, Lord For-Koru-Sama says you're "acting out due to trauma". Why does she say such things? As you no doubt realize, that's a particulary timely question. In fact, just half an hour ago, I heard someone express the opinion that we must understand that despite Lord For-Koru-Sama's protestations and rhetoric, the facts do not support her claims. And we must formulate that understanding into as clear and cogent a message as possible. Easy as it may seem to challenge her abusive assumptions about merit, it is far more difficult to provide information and inspiration to as many people as possible. Lord For-Koru-Sama should clarify her point so people like you and me can tell what the heck she's talking about. Without clarification, Lord For-Koru-Sama's flimflams sound lofty and include some emotionally charged words but don't really seem to make any sense.
Although there are no formal, external validating criteria for Lord For-Koru-Sama's directionless claims, I think we can safely say that she apparently can't tell the difference between flirting and sexual harassment, between white lies and perjury, or between a schoolboy carrying a butter knife and carrying a switchblade. That's clear. But her put-downs all stem from one, simple, faulty premise -- that she is a martyr for freedom and a victim of Fabianism. In purely political terms, Lord For-Koru-Sama wants to establish tacit boundaries and ground rules for the permissible spectrum of opinion. Who does she think she is? I mean, every time she utters or writes a statement that supports irreligionism -- even indirectly -- it sends a message that censorship could benefit us. I aver we mustn't let her make such statements, partly because she raises an enormous hullabaloo and tries to drown me out every time I state in public that Lord For-Koru-Sama is so intolerantly devoted to her own prejudices that her perception of reality is totally warped, but primarily because Lord For-Koru-Sama's personal motto is "never forgive and never forget". If you find that fact distressing then you should help me initiate meaningful change. Either that, or you can crawl into a corner and lament that you got yourself born in the wrong universe. Don't expect your sobbing to do much good, however, because the poisonous wine of boosterism had been distilled long before Lord For-Koru-Sama entered the scene. Lord For-Koru-Sama is merely the agent decanting the poisonous fluid from its bottle into the jug that is world humanity. The significance of this is that Lord For-Koru-Sama seems to assume that a richly evocative description of a problem automatically implies the correct solution to that problem. This is an assumption of the worst kind because she doesn't care about freedom, as she can neither eat it nor put it in the bank. It's just a word to her.
Lord For-Koru-Sama's demands reflect a malodorous bias that will place inimical fault-finders at the head of a nationwide kakistocracy sooner or later. What's my problem, then? Allow me to present it in the form of a question: Do brassbound, ethically bankrupt meatheads like Lord For-Koru-Sama's votaries actually have lives, or do they exist solely to put increased disruptive powers in the hands of irritating thugs? In other words, is Lord For-Koru-Sama just trying to exhibit a deep disdain for all people who are not warped, ugly reprobates? The only clear answer to emerge from the conflicting, contradictory stances that she and her lapdogs take is that some of her goombahs once admitted -- after considerable tergiversation -- that yes, Lord For-Koru-Sama had secretly plotted to retard the free and natural economic development of various c
in short we dont give a ***** about you naysayer and anti-christian.. god will damn you all to hell and forth >:) See you in hell from the heavens l0sars...
http://www.pakin.org/complaint/
when your sick of lame weak-mind guidance in-need christian and generate a complaint the lazy way =D
Funny images: Arguing on the internet is like running in the Special Olympics... Even if you win, you're still retarded and noob Koru-Sama
Kill Jebus has mental problems and needs to seek help, but you're only egging him and everyone else on Koru Sama. Just stop replying to his garbage and let this die.
Oh and to that fake Koru Sama (if that's true) you have way too much time on your hands. Who writes pages of religious bullsh*t on an Xbox 360 Website? Find something better to do with your time
I posted that comment replying to the last post on page 1, I had no idea so many people used "Koru-Sama" to say stupid ignorant crap.
Well, in that case you all need to find something better to do with your time
No sexism there. And priests can get married.
The Eastern Orthodox Catholic Church does allow marriage. They have a rich traditional heritage and i can think of nothing bad to say about them (mainly due to lack of knowledge about them). Although, there is still not sexism in the Roman Catholic Church either XD just to set the record straight ^_^
Religion is just another form of propaganda. Catholic religion is probably, just short of being, the worst culprit of them all.
Its a shame religious "nutts" are always trying to force their beliefs on others. (re:koru-Kun)
Here it goes.... Some of this is going to be incredibly off topic but I would like to get it off of my mind. First of all scientifically speaking I think it is incredibly unlikely that living beings came without guidance from a higher power. I don't understand how fish evolved into reptiles without guidance from a higher power. Evolution states survival of the fittest. According to our fossil records amphibians came from fish. Amphibians have lungs. Obviously a fish wasn't suddenly born with lungs, they had to start off as something else, something else unusefull therefore it wouldnt become more predominant in the species according to evolution. There are my thoughts about there being a God. Ok now for some religion, Arab does not mean Muslim. The Syrian Orthodox Church was started in the Middle East. Ok now for Iraq, sending new troops might not be the best strategy, but we cant pull out. Iraq is the only Sunni Nation left to stop Iran (mainly Shiite, more radical Islamists) from expanding east. If we were to pull out, we would see a vietnam type situation and Iraq would fall to Iran in a very short time. Iran could then unite with their allies Syria and Lebanon, and would have little to stop them from taking Saudi Arabia. With our worst enemies on the planet controlling our much so needed oil, guess what will happen to our gass prices. Now let me criticize Bush, he never should have taken out Hussein in the first place without a backup plan if Iraq were to fall. Five years ago he should have started the country on a switch to an alternative energy source. By now we would have been ready to cut a large ammount of our oil supplies. Obviously that can't be done what I think we need to do is focus on our technological advantages, and take a page out of the Israeli's book and learn not to be afraid to assasinate key leaders. You chop off the head, the body becomes useless. Now for two issues completely off topic: Minimum wage raising, and abortion. With the minimum wage being raised companies will do one of two things: make workers work harder and cut jobs to cut the cost, or raise the cost on the consumer end. We need learn from Smith: the economy will take care of itself, a man will not work for less than what he needs to live and businesses will pay employees what they can afford to. Abortion is one of the most unintelligent practices on the planet. If you cannot raise a child at this point in your life, I understand, but there are plenty of parents looking to adopt a child that will pay for all fees of the mother of the child. I should know, I was adopted. I would not appreciate anybody calling me an idiot, thank you in advance.
According to the Bible, life is God's to give and take. As for the innocent children, seeing as how they are innocent, they would have been rewarded with an eternity in heaven.
Glad to see that someone actually researched into this ordeal. You have my respect.
You seem to have thought things out now. I agree with a LOT of what you said (but of course not everything word for word). Hope to hear more from you around here ^_^. Great analysis!
I'd normally point out all the things i agree with and disagree with and explain why, but i'm really tired and have to get up for work in the morning hahaha.
i thought he was defending his religion..? i didnt see him say "be a catholic or satan will ass rape u while ur burnin in hell". but maybe u dont have the mental capacity to perform logical thought. im catholic too btw.
in the words of Ken "the Hawk Harrilson" YYYYYYEEEEEESSS SSSSS!!!!!!!
Religion is and always will be an organized system of ignorance
i totally agree with you.
cristianity has the most bloodbathed history!
The idea that an omnipresent creator
would ordain free will on the created,
sending them into darkness
then reveal the truth about his nature
to a select few supposedly ordained
to distribute throughout the world
an unveiling of the nature
of an insecure, violent, sometimes kind, child killing God,
sounds more like the musings of some kind of heavenly crack addict
than anything we should worship or model ourselves after...
who ever you really are, i want to inform you that your abode is hellfire. In there you will reside forever.in hell there is neither life(metaphor) nor death(literal).An example of a man that lived in this world with riches,fame,lei sures,friends,h appiness,etc..
his whole time and then dipped into hellfire for a moment and then pulled out after that moment was asked "have you felt any pleasure in your life.even for a moment?" and he will reply "no i havent felt any pleasure in my life. even for a moment" This will happen because of the extremety of the pain felt from that moment in hell. Unless you repent, believe and do righteous deeds this will be your plot.
Okay, you want New Testament...well, here you go...insert foot in mouth now.
Here is a little bit from the NEW Testament on slaves...keyword here SLAVES
1 Timothy 6:1
All those who are under the yoke of slavery must have unqualified respect for their masters, so that the name of God and our teaching is not brought into disrepute. Tt 2:9
Slaves must be obedient to their masters in everything, and do what is wanted without argument. Tt 2:10
And there must be no pilfering. Tt 2:10
They must show complete honesty at all times... Tt 2:10
...so that they are a credit in every way to the teaching of God our Saviour. 1 Peter 2:18
Slaves, you should obey your masters respectfully, not only those who are kind and reasonable but also those who are difficult to please. 1 Corinthians 7:21
Even if you have a chance of freedom... 1 Corinthians 7:21
...you should prefer to make full use of your condition as a slave.
Question Koru-Sama...since when is SLAVERY a good moral value?
Go frack yourself
Read the whole Bible jack_ass
Who cares what people have to say about video games including the Pope! Hes not the first to criticize video games so why do you all get bothered by this. Is anyone really gona listen to what anybody has to say about video games? I know Im not...Im sure youre not...so just quit commenting on this and go play!
» The New Testament
Okay, you want New Testament...well, here you go...insert foot in mouth now. Here is a little bit from the NEW Testament on slaves...keyword here SLAVES 1
Timothy 6:1 All those who are under the yoke of slavery must have unqualified respect for their masters, so that the name of God and our teaching is not brought into disrepute.
Tt 2:9 Slaves must be obedient to their masters in everything, and do what is wanted without argument.
Tt 2:10 And there must be no pilfering.
Tt 2:10 They must show complete honesty at all times... Tt 2:10 ...so that they are a credit in every way to the teaching of God our Saviour.
1 Peter 2:18 Slaves, you should obey your masters respectfully, not only those who are kind and reasonable but also those who are difficult to please.
1 Corinthians 7:21 Even if you have a chance of freedom...
1 Corinthians 7:21 ...you should prefer to make full use of your condition as a slave.
Question Koru-Sama...since when is SLAVERY a good moral value? Go frack yourself Read the whole Bible jack_ass
Isn't he the pope that hates women? I remember that on the news when he got elected .
Whoever here defended the Faith, I commend you wholeheartedly. I'm sorry I don't know your names, but you know who you are. When I found this thread, your brave fight against slander and lies, I at last felt that there was something left that made sense in this dark world. I am ashamed that I lacked the courage and will to do the same until now. You acted rationally while the mob acted like their namesake. Truly, it was pearls before swine, mate, pearls before swine. I wish I could shake your hand, whoever you are.
To better days ahead.
C.
LOL jj, not that I disagree or anything but Dying is spelt both ways depends on where you live.
Kill Jebus,
Looking down at your posts you are starting to look a bit silly now maybe its time to stop eh.
And whoever was impersonating Koru-Sama you are just making yourself look foolish and it gives the impression that you have lost your argument and in desperation adopted this tactic.
To me (being that I have had cancerous tumour) the gods are the ones who invented the MRI scanners,Cat scan etc and their helpers are the surgeons,Scient ists ( chemo etc).
But everybody has a right to believe in something but calling the Pope a nazi is Pathetic.
I bet whoever started that one off would turn down a oneoff lifesaving operation from a brilliant aging German surgeon who was also called up by his country ( Which would also make HIM a nazi to wouldnt it ) YER RIGHT I BET YOU WOULD!.
Good grief. Nothing to rile up a good argument (hah, good. Not likely) like religion...or drugs. I am a Protestant, and not a good one (due to the fact I'm an ***** and everything), but I still believe in Christianity and God as a whole. Being a Protestant, I don't really hear of the Pope much, but when I do, I pay attention, for he is a wise man.
Anyway, I'd like to thank Koru-Kun for at least trying, but you gotta remember, it's cool these days to bash popular things (Christianity) and be a wanna-be atheist brat. ****ing Myspace generation.
A true idiot is one who believes everything they are told, by someone who heard from someone else, going on for years and generations. Everybody puts their own spin on it until there is nothing original left, even assuming those "leaders" or "prophets" or whatever were right in the first place. This state of mind is the basis of stupidity, as no matter how impossible these beliefs are, people continue to live a lie. For some people, their lives have meaning, but us intelligent folk cannot base our lives on lies. You have to understand human nature, because there is nearly nobody in the world that exhibits selfless acts of kindness.
I WAS raised catholic, and the entire religion is about choice, that is giving you NONE. Reject the catholic faith and don't follow their rules? Then you are a sinner and going to hell! Fu*k that, I am intelligent and base my beliefs on things that can be proven. Ever tried to prove a scientific theory based on centuries old made up "facts" or faith? Good luck there.
The catholic church is no different than a cult, just one that has been around for thousands of years. It has crazy beliefs that make no sense to a sane person, or even anybody that wasn't brainwashed their whole lives to believe that nonsense.
Any group that must brainwash people to share their beliefs, rather than make a convincing truthful argument, is evil. Yes the catholic church IS guilty of brainwashing because I have experience. 1st thru 8th grade I had to go to church and hear the same nonsensical gibberish 6 days a week. Surrounded by BS throughout grade and high school I got sick of it and quit going. I refuse to live out the beliefs of others when nothing makes the least bit of sense, and I'm all for common sense. A fictional book written by fanatical ancient idiots should not be the basis of life.
I'd say the same to you about reading and understanding the whole bible. You're MISQUOTING AGAIN!!!!!
Why do you assume that they are talking about slavery as being something that's righteous? Because that is NOT what they are saying, they are speaking directly to the captives of the people enslaving them, which are the christians who are slaves. If you didn't realize earlier, a LOT of the Christians (especially the early ones) were ARRESTED and TURNED INTO SLAVES.
Hmm, what could these sentences mean? Maybe the writers were talking about how to UPHOLD THEIR CHRISTIAN FAITH while being enslaved instead of giving into the temptation of growing bitter and let hatred consume them for being a slave to the ones enslaving them.
Lastly, and i won't repeat this ever again. I will not sit here and go over bible verses with you because you apparently interpret them differently than they are intended. Of COURSE you are trying to interpret them differently, because you're purposely searching for flaws instead of reading for understanding.
From now on, if you quote any more of your little verses and try to turn them against me, just remember that you won't get anywhere in trying to discredit the Catholic Religion.... know why?
Catholics don't solely rely on the bible!
Religion is for women and small children. Do you think that the marines, before they go on a mission worry about going to hell?
Why did you remove your comment? Somebody on your end of the job force you to take it down for pointing out fact or something?
and i am sure that u would be in attendance as the "church" burned another witch at the stake....
As an atheist/agnostic....I do not know if there is or is not a God(s). What I do know is that this is a very big universe and for anyone on this planet to claim to know what God(s) is or is not is a complete liar and a lunatic.
How can we be the only ones?
Why are we the center of the universe?
I am sorry but I like to think that the universe is teaming with life, spawning countless other civilizations.
If not, and u religious idiots are right (I do hold out the slim possibility that one of the worlds religions past or present is right, a very,very small one 1-1000000000000000 000000000000000 000000000000000 000000000000000 000000000000000 000000000000000 000000000000000 000000000000000 00000000000)the n God(s) is the biggest litter bug in the universe...or is it multi-verse?
I say no to the Super omnipotent dictator and yes to gaining more knowledge so that someday humanity can take it's proper place in this wonderful vast universe.
for somebody that has a name as yours, why do you speak like you do? Is it to be some sort of oxymoron by calling yourself Mr. Common Sense when you don't actually use common sense?
Just because i was raised Catholic doesn't mean i don't have a choice whether or not to believe them. The only ones who put their own "spin" on what to believe as during the Protestant Revolution and I'm proud to say that the Roman Catholic Church didn't divert from their original teachings.
People that claim that they are intelligent apparently aren't intelligent enough to know that it makes them sound like a self-righteous bigot. Who told you that you are among the "intelligent" ones that apparently knows more than everyone that doesn't agree with what you think. If somebody agrees with what you say, you say they are intelligent... but if somebody disagrees with what you believe, then they aren't intelligent by your standards. Your definition of intelligent is flawed.
I whole-heartedly agree that true idiots are the ones who believe everything that they are told without second guessing them or trying to find out if what they say has fact or truth to it.
There are BILLIONS of people that do selfless acts of charity and kindness. Where have you been your entire life?! You only *see* the bad and never notice the good, that makes you a pessimist.
You can't prove the existence of God through the scientific method. Just like you can't prove the Theory of Evolution through the scientific method either! To believe in either of those, you NEED to have faith and believe that one or the other is true (some people choose to believe both is true).
The Catholic Church is a far cry from a cult. A cult is a group of people that have and practice beliefs that are extremely outside the cultural norm. Just so you know, the Church is widely accepted in almost every country so don't even think you can get away with calling it a cult.
The people here and especially I don't need to here your little sob story about how you left the Church and how you couldn't keep faith and who you place blame on and all that idiocy. If you have a personal quarrel with the beliefs of the Church, simply don't believe it and keep it to yourself!
You think that the Roman Catholic Church is brainwashing people?! PLEASE! Spare me your shallow mentality for a minute. You want to know what brainwashes people? The media, that's who. Because you get most of your information from the media and accept (since it's on the news or discovery channel or history channel) that it's fact and true. Now who was it that says you're a complete fool if you believe everything you see and hear? Both of us.
The bible isn't a fictional book, but the DaVinci Code is! It's a theological book.
As an atheist/agnostic....I do not know if there is or is not a God(s). What I do know is that this is a very big universe and for anyone on this planet to claim to know what God(s) is or is not is a complete liar and a lunatic. How can we be the only ones? Why are we the center of the universe? I am sorry but I like to think that the universe is teaming with life, spawning countless other civilizations. If not, and u religious idiots are right (I do hold out the slim possibility that one of the worlds religions past or present is right, a very,very small one 1-1000000000000000 000000000000000 000000000000000 000000000000000 000000000000000 000000000000000 000000000000000 000000000000000 00000000000)the n God(s) is the biggest litter bug in the universe...or is it multi-verse? I say no to the Super omnipotent dictator and yes to gaining more knowledge so that someday humanity can take it\'s proper place in this wonderful vast universe.
Killjebus, I dont want to hear your crap thanks and if you would of read post before you replied to it you would of seen that I DONT BELIEVE IN GOD and like I said in the first line YOU ARE MAKING YOURSELF LOOK SILLY but now you just proving to be a proper *****....I mean look at your last post Proper *****....
Killjebus what has all that got to do with the post by MED you are replying to as he says his god is the MRI scanner etc ?.so you do relize that means he dont believe in god right ????.
Errr...Hello??? The majority of American's support Catholism/Cristianity/Opus-Dei yet they've killed North Koreans, Vietnamese, Africans, Iranians, Iraqis, they condone gun usage, the CIA imports drugs from Columbia into into Miami, they've cut off Oil trade to Cuba, they produce 60% of the world's total pollution and they tried to initiate the patriot act, they're funding Isreal to slaughter Palestinians and Lebanese. And Catholic's (fundamentals) support that?! George W. Bush is a Catholic. Since when was the faith of Jesus pro-war? The Vatican has billions and do they pay their Preists properly? Do they help the needy with all the money.
Just shut up if you're trying to defend your "faith".
Err...Hello??? The majority of American's support Catholicism/Christianity/Opus-Dei yet they've killed North Koreans, Vietnamese, Africans, Iranians, Iraqis, they condone gun usage, the CIA imports drugs from Columbia into Miami, they've cut off Oil trade to Cuba, they produce 60% of the world's total pollution and they tried to initiate the patriot act, they're funding Israel to slaughter Palestinians and Lebanese. And Catholic's (fundamentals) support that?! George W. Bush is a Catholic. Since when was the faith of Jesus pro-war? The Vatican has billions and do they pay their Priests properly? Do they help the needy with all the money?
Just shut up if you're trying to defend your "faith".
i am catholic and you cant just stereotype a religion based on old history.
Give a monkey a brain....and he'll swear that he's the center of the universe....and he will kill, rape, ascimilate, etc. etc. all while he tells you that his "GOd" loves u.
im catholic.but I liked the old pope better.he made friends with muslims not insult them and our love video games.
hey its the 21st
If you're Catholic, cool. If you're Athiest, cool. If you worship a dead frog at the bottom of your doormat, fine and dandy.
Those who think that Group A are ignorant sheep, or that Group B are gonna burn in Hell, Group C (people who agree with the my first statement) is telling the two of you to SHUT THE F|_|CK UP!
Just because a priest or a dipsh1t with a guitar preaches something, it doesn't mean you have to crap out your mouths without using your brain. Neither group has a right to criticize the other, PERIOD.
And for you morons who "carefully thought out a brilliant response to your criticisms" by slapping up some Metal lyrics you heard from one of your big brother's CDs:
YOU. ARE. RETARDED.
F|_|ck1ng Christ...
When they're being SHOT AT they definitely think about God, you stupid prick.
um............you spelt some words wrong.
crap you all fuc you
i love the pope and see him as a role model, but he is completely ignorant to what he is talking about. i can safely say he has never felt the type of innocent accomplishment at beating ganondorf after hours of poring over your n64 when you were 9. he has a different view of games than people who love them, and i think he is right that they are violent,but truly they harm no one and dont cause any "perversion" in a person that was not in there before.he is a very smart man, but this subject is a little hard for him to understand, so give him a break. and yes, i am catholic
It's not like Pope John Paul II wouldn't have said the exact same thing. The truth is that the problems with the media exalting extremely immoral behavior is simply wrong, that's what he was pointing out. He also added in that it was even worse for these immoral acts are being directed at our children.
I really don't care who the Pope is, just as long as he does his job well ^_^. Although i was attached more to the previous pope... hopefully this new one can live up to his predecessor's name.
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bush is not cathoic. hes baptist I think!
I'm sure the pope has more important things to do that play video games. But that doesn't change the fact that he knows about what's going on in the media (this applies to video games as well as all other products, not just the games)
He said nothing bad about video games that lack the senseless immorality and controversial behavior that we see in games like GTA and in a lot of movies that are coming out (sleaziness is abundant in movies and TV nowadays).
What he claimed "perverse" is the TREND of producing products that contain these things in the name of entertainment, and it's even worse when they are directed towards children.
From his quote, i can find nothing wrong about what he said.... because what he said is true. There IS a trend at producing these products in the media that have immoral acts in abundance and people DO portray all the things he's talking about and there are companies that do direct it towards the children (remember Conker's Bad Fur Day from Rare *Nintendo owned company at the time*).
I don't think you're being mean, but you are definitely saying the things i would've a year ago. So i can't say you aren't on the right track, but just remember that this sorta thing is actually out there and it's not just a *thing* that's going around.
I just don't know what to call it when women can become priests. I wasn't just talking about the Orthodox church specifically I personally am an Episcopalian which is somewhere in between Catholic and Orthodox. Our church specifically tends to be a nice blend of modern and classical. We have a sick band but an equally sick very talented organ player. Back on topic Koru-Kun do you have AIM? I enjoy talking to intelligent people.
Yes, i do have AIM. But i can't think of a way off the top of my head to give you my screen name without other people on this board (that no doubt would like to flame me and send me hate messages) finding out about it. Maybe you can give me your AIM screen name and I'll message you? Or can you think of a better way? hahaha XD
whitetigre88 is my screen name
Cult followers of fake faith. Open your eyes and look around. There is more than following around Count Pope-a-lot and being scared to your grave.
Actually, I saw God in my shoe....Praise the shoe
Death to all who oppose the shoe
The shoe is all knowing
The shoe loves all the little children
The shoe is the one TRUE God
All other God(s) are false God(s)
Bow down to the shoe or the shoe will make you
Give 10% of your pre-tax earnings to the Shoe
Do not question the Shoe
It is the Shoe's will
Be one with the Shoe
Accept the Shoe into your heart and you will be saved
The Shoe is full of kindness and slow to anger
Spread the word of the Shoe
Do not use the Shoe's name in vane
Listen and do what the Shoe's socks tell you to do
The Shoe's socks are the messangers of the Shoe
The Shoe's socks know more about the Shoe than you do
The Shoe's socks are closer to the Shoe than you are
what happens when a preist gets caught molesting a child.
they send him to another parish.
catholics are the most prolific child molesters out of any religion.
why. because they basically get away with it.
put that in your pipe and smoke it
get a dictionary before you give out spelling lessons
he spelt DYING correctly
you see when you add ING you drop the E
which makes die diing
it looks weird so the first i is replaced by a Y
dieing is not correct
dieing is to cut, form or stamp as if with a die
the one associated with death is dying
Oh Fuc* you Non-Believers!
Oh Fuc*; Your Whiny created you!
Your BullShi* Shi*s with you
Your Mom had Se* with you
Oh Fuc* your whiny created you!
The Second Vatican Council was specifically established to help restructure the Catholic Church into a more wholistic institution - that meant it was officially opening its doors to the public for the first time.
That in turn means they refocused their attention more into actually studying how the world works, as comapred to being dogmatic followers of doctrine. It's slow work, given how large the organization is, but at least they're trying.
Most interesting that most of the people casting their stones haven't done any research into this matter. Double for those who criticize and claim to know the bible, when all they've really done is quick-glance some of the juicier pages. The book isn't to be taken literally - it's supposed to be interpreted, much like any good novel.
ARE you guys stupid?! Why don't you believe in the Catholic Church?! Don't you guys ever watch news about miracles happening in the world by Catholic religion? What you think is your own opinion so don't think their true, and let me ask you something, how did all of existance come to be??? Of course the only answer is God.
So,
We have this man who believes in burning bushes, he believes that if he thinks about women he will go under the ground and burn - but be able to survive forever?
He believes in people with wings who desend from the sky?
He thinks that these flying people all sing to some higher power in latin and that latin is the universal language of everything?
And we are actually giving his views a space on QJ?
HAHAH
What a crock.
DONT LISTEN TO MADMEN WHO BELEIVE IN BURNING BUSHES - CARPENTERS THAT ARE MAJIC - OR ANY OTHER STUPIDNESS.
MY GOD!
Didnt you people go to shcool - Like DURRRRRRRRRR!?!?
People dont have wings
If bushes burn they dont talk (not unless you smoked them)
Carpenters make sheds and tables and stuff - they are not MAJIC.
***** THE POPE AND ***** HIS MAD VIEWS ON BUSHES AND CARPENTERS - OH YEAH AND VIDEO GAMES>