Pandora's Battery not working with PSP Slim? |
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While this was said to work on all units it doesn't seem to apply to the PSP Slim. A recent video on YouTube made by whisNL shows him trying to use Pandora's Battery on the newer handheld. A commenter noted that this could be because Sony placed the necessary files in a different location or that Sony has put a lock on the files which only they can access.
While we can't say for certain what prevents the battery from working on the PSP Slim, there's some evidence here to suggest that the Prometheus Project's battery doesn't work with Sony's new PSP. We'll be looking at this closely and be reporting back with more updates on it. In the meantime, let us know if this will keep you from buying a PSP Slim in the near future.
Thanks to JaXeRiR for the tip!
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Conspiracy.
Someone fixed the Pandora Battery's access due to it having been released early.
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lol... I sure it will work evetually. There cant be an "unhackable" system.
So far, the PS3 still cannot be hack.
But anyway points for sony for increasing their defense.
The matrix is f*cking up again.
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I am the one who commented about the files being in different place, and also the one who posted this tip to QJ.
I was just thinking that this PSP featured on the video is a pre-ordered PSP Slim I guess. But, what about the prototype ones sent all over to critics and stuff. If someone could check if the battery works with prototype, then we could know if this had been fixed before the release or it has been like this all the time, and this was supposed to happen with every Slim, prototype or not...?
Sony had a head up that their psp was hackable for a long time already, so why wait till the last moment to increase it's defenses. It was probably planned with the slim from the beginning.
I made that vid, and it was just a regular PSP Slim & Lite. I work at a toystore here in The Netherlands, and we got 3 of 'em. Not sure when we'll get other units.. These units were for retail, and we allready sold 1. the one i tested the battery on, was the one we show customers before buying ;) Ill get my hads on that one again, probably next tuesday. Meanwhile, check the QJ forums for updates and ideas!
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it appears in the vid that the battery does work.. it enters the first stage of service mode but they are apparently using a diffrent encryption technique on the slim.. or that they have made so that the magic memstick is required to have it's boot sector in another place then it currently is.. but my point is that the battery works but not the files on mem therefore is the title of this news post wrong
they meant the concept of using the Pandora's battery on the psp 2000.
If not successful, it does not work.
Can't say I'm in the least bit surprised. But to be honest the only reason to get a PSP Slim is for the extra features (I use a 3600MaH battery for my 10 hour battery life fix) so until someone can relase a CFW that retains the extra features, I'm not too worried about it.
The slim has a different structure to it and stuff. once the hackers figure it out, we'll homebrew that little sucker up I'm sure and of course Boost sony's sales which i'm sure sony wiill hate since they'd be just fine without people exploiting the full potential of their system hardy hardy...
It works on the slim, but its the files on the memory stick that need to be looked at.
If the Psp Slim booted into the standard XMB after having the Pandora battery inserted then the news title should be ''Pandora battery not working with new Psp slim''.
The fact is the Pandora battery puts the Psp slim into service mode but for currently unknown reasons it cannot load the files from the memory stick. If you are going to report such important news at least take some time to understand how and why. A blank screen which is usually associated with something not working is the complete opposite in this case. A working standard XMB screen at boot up in this case would mean Pandora was not working.
Fire
I once saw a title of a news post which said "Exploded PSP!" and then it was just a gameboot with a PSP logo exploding... So I don't think the title is anywhere near wrong.
If the battery had not been leaked then sony would most likly not went to the trouble of patching the psp slim
that was just the "last screen" booting. Like when you pull the battery in the middle of a game and then reboot and for a split second can see that game screen before it gets wiped from memory.
i believe they probable changed the pin to which the jigkick activated...or they change th way the current flows between the 2 batteries.. so which would mean you gotta make pandora with the lite bannery on a fat psp... or crack 3.60 the old fashion way and make pandora with psp 2k
i was told it only works with cfw!!!???!!!
No duh it doesnt work, u accually thought sony would let the slim load a 1.50 kernal? chance r, they made it so that the PSP proccessor did not except any other kernal other than 3.60 and up. Our only shot is to hack the firmware the old fashion way, then 3.60 will be the slims golden firmware.
it doesn't seem like its the battery that is locked out. Sony need it for when people send back broken psp to fix. The issue as people say is the reading of the data on the memstick, which they would've wanted to fix regardless of the pandora early release. Theyve always been trying to prevent hacked code running off the memory sticks, obviously theyve implemented a new bit of encryption or even some new hardware on the motherboard, point is we won't know for a few weeks but it will definitely get hacked, jus like the ps3 will get hacked eventually its inevitable.
I'm going to have to agree with the earlier comment that you likely need to make a PSPSlim battery into a pandora... I know by all rights there's no difference but that just seems likely...
To answer the question in the article, yeah it slows MY hunt for a PSPS down... I'll stick with LiteMP3 and my POPs emulator on the bigger model until we've caught up to the new one...
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yah but it will be hacked in the future, blu ray is an unexplored format and it will be hacked eventually, just look at umd and psp( even though umd was the easiest thing to hack in the world)
the battery works on all older psp not slim. but they released it because alot of places online has one of their versions of the software has been leaked, n been making money off of it, also if they C+D didn't released theirs, Datel and Kick Start n other company would of released it anyway.
You can only make the pandora's battery and memory stick with CFW, but once those two have been made, they will work on any PSP.
i wonder if there still gona realease firmware for the fat psp... even if they do i bet psp 2k has the better fearures :(
i dun wana waste another 300 getting this thing...
i thought wen they said it was gonna be slim
i was expecting something like a ipod nano and the old ipod comarison 0_o
i would barely tell the diffrence
i seriosuly want to see how much people wil want to buy this...
I think that the files are wrong and therefor this method isn't working BUT I will still buy the new PSP 2K, because as always the first firmware is buggy...
AND this actually works because it starts with the batteries when the serial is 0xFFFFFFF and the files are wrong...
And don't forget you can use the old battery in the new PSP 2K...
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PS3 was hacked earlier this year. Then sony found out and took legal action. This was right around the time D_A resigned.
Noticed he used a 3rd party MAX battery, maybe he'd have better luck using a Sony battery?
You cannot use firmware 1.50 to boot up the PSP Slim.
I bricked my psp a while ago and I had sent it in to get it fixed (it was full brick no cfw) and they charged me $98 for a new "motherboard" and all they did was pop in a battery and card, and pressed a few buttons. That pisses me off so much, I am pretty sure their time is not worth that much money.
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You would have to obtain a dump of firmware 3.60, put the 3.60 subset on the memory stick and use that to boot up that way it would give ppl mem stick access and stuff, the only problem is if we boot into service mode using the 3.60 subset, will we be able to flash 1.50 and have it run? i think not...
I'm sure that this battery requires a little tweaking to get it running on the slim PSP. Once the Noobz get their hands on one, they'll have a working battery very shortly.
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Lets look back for a moment here. When the TA-82 motherboards were released, the hardware on the motherboard prevented the 1.50 ipl from loading. The slim psp is most likely using a similar method to block the 1.50 ipl.
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Don't worry, Dark_AleX said that if the memory LED blinked it means unsigned code has run, the code in the battery and memory stick needs to be tweaked a little and it will be no time before 1.5 no... CFW can be ran on this handheld
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See if you can make a pandoras battery out of the PSP Slim battery? That may be the reason its not working, since your using the fat psp battery
I reported you
http://forums.gangstergreed.com/index.php?topic+1026.0
read above.
why dont one of the teams jusy make a service mode downgrader that writes one of the newer CFW to the flash instead of 1.5.. then we could just skip patching the IDstoreage maybe.... anyone?
Of course it doesnt work! The slim model have security that it CANNOT load 1.50 update in kernal, only 3.60 and higher.
Sony haven't completely 'fixed' the Pandora's Battery.
They've just changed the IPL, so the custom one on the battery doesn't work.
thank you f**kn lamers who leaked the prometheus project and forced C+D to release it early
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maybe the slim can be hacked using an old technique, like lumines and the gta exploit through another game.
You're the kid who keeps e-mailing me all sorts of ridiculous ideas. This is almost verbatim from your e-mail.
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Am i still a noob for the comments a made in this article?
http://pspupdates.qj.net/0okm-to-disassemble-newly-purchased-PSP-Slim-and-Lite/pg/49/aid/101276
Looks like most of you don't know that there is NOTHING on the battery. It's just a changed serial number to 0xffffffff that sends the PSP into service mode. This is clearly working in the video. Notice how the power is already on when he inserts the battery (without ever touching the power button again)? That means that the battery trick most certainly DOES WORK. It's the memory stick that needs to be figured out and that won't happen until 3.60 update is released for the rest of us ('fat' psp owners) and is decrypted. Then maybe the proper boot code can be written using it. All that is needed is for the code to run the menu so the slim's flash can be dumped... then the doors wide open since we already know how to patch the IDstoreage to run 1.5 on ta82+ models...
This is how it is, this is the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth... so stop making all of these stupid comments when you really don't have a clue what the hell you're talking about.
My comments from the other day.
" It's not downgrade able, so quit wishing, you will need to wait for someone to crack this. The new motherboards require code that is not available in older firmware to operate. I would donate some time and money, but this community is a lost cost, between all the rippers and unethical hackers(ie any coder who would purposely include bricking code or release code behind a fellow coders back, or even use others code, improved or not to make money).
If a coder worth a damn should arise I will be happy to donate some time and hardware to them, but as of right now, the scene is full of script kiddies."
AND
" I am not saying it will never be hacked. I am saying, in its current state, battery or not, it is not downgrade-able. It requires certain code from the 3.60 firmware to boot. When 3.60 is hacked, then you may see the possibility of that hardware specific code being implemented into older firmware but without the code, it's not going to happen.
In short, it is going to require new custom firmware based on code from the 3.60 series firmware to work. Nothing that has been released is going to work, no matter how you combine it. Anyone who has read the white papers and have seen the dev kit might have half a brain and already know this.
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Just an addition, the new Firmwares also use different encryption methids, so someone is going to have to figure out how to decrypt it as well, so it isn't going to be the same old process you are used to.
The second Sony makes an update for the slim, we can decrypt it, make it think it's a higher update, add custom features and finally encrypt it back to it's original format. I'll be one of the many trying to do this when it comes out, and one of us is bound to do it.
3.60 firmware has been out and about for awhile for the PSP Slim, so how come no show on the Fat PSP?
The 3.60 firmware will be different to Slim PSP's than that of the FAT PSP's.. so even decypted the FAT PSP version 3.60 firmware will still be no use to finding out how the Slim PSP works.
Think about it, motherboard companies can change 1 number on their models, and if you try to flash the wrong bios onto your motherboard, well you know what happens..
I bet their will be a section on the offical site for Slim PSP firmware downloads, and a section for the Fat PSP..
Just my 2 cents.
If its made by sony it can be hacked :)
install the pandora on the slim battery, it will probably work on psp fat wont it? so write the code to it! (if it does work) and maybe the psp has to use a slim battery for service mode beta (since the original psp is the alpha)
If it worked, I would've bought a new PSP slim.
I wonder if this new TA-85 is even 1.5 compatible. I mean of course TA-82 was fixed but what if 1.5 can't even detect the motherboard. Blahhhh I have no idea what Im talking about just some theories.
I thought that sony said that they would not be allowing the firmware to update ever!?!
dude ur completely right, ive been around since the psp was first able to run homebrew, and things have gone downhill..., that aside...
if the new psp is designed to resist the older firmwares by needing things that the older firmwares don't have, that means we just have to mod the attack plan a little as soon as 3.60 gets cracked (i know i ill take a while, don't get me wrong) that just means that we'll have to bypass the downgrade to 1.50, and go directly from 3.60 to say 3.60 M33,
Considering some of the other hurdles that have been crossed in this whole process, this is nothing more than a frickin speed bump. As soon as the PSP slim hits the shelves, I give it a week, maybe two before Pandora is full functional on it.
That lame version spoof method was patched long ago after it was first done.
thats what I was thinking @dig...
Maybe flash0 & flash1 were relocated
I have been going back and forth with what to do. I want my PSP to have an IR port since I use it quite often but I could benefit so greatly from a video out.
Since I only own two games for the PSP and run almost ALL homebrew I am going to hold back on the PSP slim till I can have a 100% on homebrew
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Is that Sony with the new PSP SLIM, they didnt use FW 1.50, thats for the old ones, while the slim will be forced to be on 3.60 FW because it wouldnt work with 1.50 mainly because of video output and such but it is possible to hack the 3.60 FW off of the PSP SLIM, change it to CFW and then tweak the Pandoras program to load the 3.60 CFW unto a PSP SLIM.
Sony had already began production on these PSP's since before the pandoras battery was even released, they couldnt have been able to change the coding until it was out and people bought it and then the people download the new update, which makes it immune to Pandoras battery until later and plus it is possible to use the regular PSP battery, even if its in pandoras mode.
All they need to do is tweak the Pandora program to load slim CFW unto the PSP SLIM and BAM, homebrew enabled PSP slims, thats what Dark Alex tried to say on one of the websites.
I was considering getting a PSP Slim eventually, but if I can't run homebrew on it, then it's a no go. I'll stick to my fatty PSP.
"even though umd was the easiest thing to hack in the world"
What aspect of the UMD has been hacked, idiot? The PSP has been hacked, that doesn't mean the UMD has been.
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the technical features lure me a little, but not enough to buy a non-homebrew-capable PSP. I´ll just wait for a 3.6 downgrader. nothing is unhackable!
Damnit, you guys are hilarious!! Ahahahahaha... from psp slim topic to captain Planet.. *sigh*
I think the comment about the new psp blocking the 1.50 IPL is probably the most likely, just like the TA-082 did
From a noob on the scene ->
Will the non-working Pandora Batery keep me from buying a PSP Slim: Yes and No.
Yes - It will keep me from buying a Slim for myself until the resourceful C+D and N00BZ Teams figure a way around the current problem causing it not to work. Nothing is "unhackable". Time and talent is on our side. For now, I'll keep my 3.52-2 M33 PSP-1001.
No - I have already placed pre-orders for the PSP Slim Piano Black (6 on the way) and FF7 Crisis Core (2 on the way) to re-sell to buyers before the holiday season. I am not purchasing these for myself. In some markets of the world these little jewels can sell for an 80-200% markup.
End of line.
yes once again people are dumb to think and agreed upon an idea.
NO SONY DID NOT PATCH THE PSP SLIM, nor made any changes to the psp slim software original state.
it just simply happens the pandora doesnt work on the slim version due to slight difference in software design.
as DA said, its very late for sony to patch the psp slim due to the reason that they are already made before project pandora is leaked to the public. but the next batch of psp slims is another issue because sony have time to patch them completely against pandora.
all said, early psp slim adopters will have a higher chance of having homebrew psp slim on their hands, unless of course they are dumb enough to update again to whatever FW sony created against pandora.
but since the psp slim is just an updated psp, there is always a chance to stumble upon open loopholes and exploit it to enable unsigned codes.
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I ThInk SONY DID SOMETHING WITH THE HARDWARE TO ACCESS SERVICE MODE NOT THE MEMORY STICK. FOR EXAMPLE THEY PROBABLY HID THE FILES SOMEWHERE IN THE FLASH OR IN A HIDDEN PART OF THE PSP SLIM INSTEAD OF INSERTING A MEMORY STICK EACH TIME. OR WHEN FLASHING TO AN UPDATE THEY MADE THE PSP ABLE TO NOT SHUT OFF, OR THE OLD FIRMWARE IS SAVED TO THE BIGGER RAM OR FLASH AS BACKUP AND RUNS OFF THAT MAKING THIS PSP UNBRICKABLE AND SAVING SONy TIME. TECHNICALLY IT WOULD BE BRICKABLE IF HOMEBREW WAS ABLE TO RUN BUT SONY WOULDN'T FIX IT BECAUSE THEY WOULD SAY YOU SHOULD'VE STICKED TO OFFICIAL FIRMWARE AND WE CAN'T HELP YOU. THEY PROBABLY THOUGHT OF THIS BEFORE PANDORA TO SAVE TIME AND MONEY.
I personally believe this has nothing to do with C+D releasing the Prometheus Project too early.
Its just different hardware in the new PSP. I'm sure the "service" facility is still there, it just needs to be accessed in a different way.
The PSP gives the same kind of reaction as if you were inserting the battery without the Magic Stick.
Give the guys a month or so and all this will be forgotten.
Peace
I bet because of the leak of Pandora's Battery Sony had chance to change files on the PSP Slim......
Actually the New PSPs were already sitting in storage just as the Pandora solution was leaked. so no they have not changed anything because of that. The battery solution has been around for ages, it is what Sony used to fix bricked PSPs that were still under warranty. This is no longer needed in the new PSPs so the functionality has been changed. If you actually do a search on Google, or better yet, on Usenet, people have been using battery tricks to access the service menu for well over a year and a half.
Actually the New PSPs were already sitting in storage just as the Pandora solution was leaked. so no they have not changed anything because of that. The battery solution has been around for ages, it is what Sony used to fix bricked PSPs that were still under warranty. This is no longer needed in the new PSPs so the functionality has been changed. If you actually do a search on Google, or better yet, on Usenet, people have been using battery tricks to access the service menu for well over a year and a half.
You mean the screen, not the memory. RAM is cleared instantly because of the way it works, the display dough keeps the last "pattern" for a few seconds or till a new pattern is drawn, also because of the way it works. Try it; rip the battery out and quickly back in and power it up. You will now see the previous pattern because the PSP will power up the backlight before init of the display. Now do the same thing again slowly, wait about 5-10 seconds before turning it on. And there you have it. Note: this was ment to be written in paragraphs, but qj.net won't like that when you use IE7.
I waited and got stuck not bein able to downgrade becasue of the ta-o82. when 3.6 and the slim are hacked then i bet it is like 1.5 firmware easy to crack...the ta downgrader finally came out but I had to wait 2 or three months. If i had 1.5 then it would be no sweat.
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Use your head and try it once, if yuo don't like it then ignore it.
All the contents on the PSP Slim are encrypted. They will need to decrypt and get the key before you can start flashing and creating custom firmwares :-/
If you are still hanging around and commenting here check this out.
http://pspupdates.qj.net/Lounger-s-M33-installation-guide-by-for-PSP-Slim/pg/49/aid/102187