Oh snaps! So it WAS Oblivion for the PS3

Posted Sep 27, 2006 at 9:10PM by QJ Staff Listed in: News, Titles, Games Tags: Bethesda Softworks, OPM, podcast
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Elder Scrolls IV heads to the PS3


If you remember some weeks back, we mentioned some super-ultra-hyper-mega secret launch title would be talked about in the November issue of "Official Playstation Magazine." A 1Up podcast mentioned that it might just be The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion, since it fits the five-word hint of OPM, but then again, Cooking Mama Fatal Battle Deluxe would also fit the bill, so you never know what the truth will be. Somehow, we also mentioned that it wouldn't be Oblivion, so some of you may be just as confused as we are.

Live in confusion no more folks, because the truth has come to light. Like it or not, the secret launch title was The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion all along.

It won't be the same game you've gotten to know, though, as they will be adding new content to this version. While they haven't outlined all the new goodies for people to try out, they did mention that one of the intriguing new additions would be a new faction: The Knights of the Nine. What this means is that there will finally be a good faction to work for, giving all those who've always tried to be good an incentive to keep playing: the chance to become a Divine Crusader.

For the PSP:
On a related note, Bethesda is also coming out with a PSP version of the game, called Elder Scrolls Travels: Oblivion. We have yet to receive further word on that one.

In the meantime, keep checking QJ for developments on these new versions of Oblivion, and download the podcast that confirms it while you're at it (it starts at 29:15 into the podcast). Enjoy!

Oblivion for the PS3 - Image 1 Oblivion for the PS3 - Image 2



 
 
 

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by matt - 2006-09-27 16:40
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its for ps3. not psp. keep the news to the correct sites.

by addict - 2006-09-27 16:46
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cool all i can say is ... cool.

by KAIN - 2006-09-27 16:48
» Sweet!!!!!

YES! This game rocks and i always wished that it would come to the PS3 and now its comming to the PS3 AND the PSP! *sigh* could it get any better?

by somewhere - 2006-09-27 17:22
» cool! :)

it's nice to know that i can add this game to my purchase on launch day. do you think this is a 720p or 1080i resolution?



i think White Knight Story graphics is more better....i hope so :)



now PS3 linueup games are better than XBOX 360, even if they are releasing a few games this coming launch day.

by RandomMan - 2006-09-27 17:33
» Nice but remember...

Remember that this game did come out almost a year ago for Xbox 360... However, it will be much better for the PS3 simply because it will (as all games will) support the 1080P resolution. And to add, Matt, shut up about how this is PS3 news. They obviously added that a PSP game was coming out soon under the Elder Scrolls franchise just so people like you wouldn't whine that this was PS3 news on a PSP site.

by Ewin24 - 2006-09-27 17:38
» Heh, coolness.

I have the X-Box 360 version and am quite content with it, but i think remaking it in 1080p is not a bad idea at all. It was glorious to begin with, and some more resolution can only add to that.

As for the PSP edition, Im skeptical, but hopeful. Im kinda taking it in the "Metal Gear" sense. Like, I hope its not a spin off like the Ac!d's were (tho a goood spin-off...just not as good as the original...I have a copy of the original.) but an actual portable rendition of the game, such as Portable Ops will be (praise the gods for PO's).

Lets hope!

by ErHem - 2006-09-27 17:47
» #5

"However, it will be much better for the PS3 simply because it will (as all games will) support the 1080P resolution"



All games will not support 1080p RandomMan. It's up to the developers whether 1080p is supported or not on the PS3, hence the majority of PS3 games are 720p for good reasons.



Anyway, this is good news, I look forward to seeing the improvements to the game thanks to the extra time.

by shane - 2006-09-27 17:47
» ugly

Dissapointment i thought there will be graphical updates. This looks worse than xbox 360. i juts hope they upscale it to 1080p

by Zak1392 - 2006-09-27 18:32
» Lol

You guys are noobs. Check out this article:

http://games.kikizo.com/news/200609/018.asp

by meh - 2006-09-27 18:46
» lol

the graphics SUCK.

by Figboy - 2006-09-27 18:55
» umm...

actually, the game *didn't* come out almost a year ago, as it didn't come out until after i started working at Obsidian Entertainment, which was in April. so, at the earliest, it came out in May or something. that's 5 months ago. by the time it releases on the PS3, it'll be 7 months. still not close to the almost a year mark.



anyway, i have it on my PC, and like most of the killer titles for the 360 that interest me, i'll get the PC version (Bioshock, Call of Duty 2, F.E.A.R, Condemned, Half Life 2, all on my PC).



games like Untold Legends, Virtua Fighter 5, Heavenly Sword, Resistence, Warhawk, and White Knight Story are enough to warrant a PS3 purchase. the 360 doesn't have anything for me (not interested in Gears of War, i don't like Halo, and anything else that i find interesting and intriguing is coming out on the PC, or the PS3 also, ie, Assassin's Creed).



i really want a 360, but there hasn't been any reasons for me to *get* one, especially now that the $500 PS3 supports HDMI.

by kura - 2006-09-27 18:58
» LOL

Zak, that's like, few weeks old.



TGS changed everything dude.



and the Screenshot looks like PSP.



PS3 version can't be UNDERPAR

by ensa - 2006-09-27 19:03
» nice one

The person calling other people noobs is the guy who doesnt know there were at least 6 1080p games playable at TGS. You sure got their number bud.

by kura - 2006-09-27 19:34
» Sorry, looked at IGN SS, it looks better

.

by CSFFlame - 2006-09-27 20:16
» Competing against the computer

Is not the job of a console...

by juv3nal - 2006-09-27 20:31
» are you lot all on crack?

it looks better/it looks worse. yeesh. it looks exactly the same is what it looks.

by yourabigpoopface - 2006-09-27 21:18
» Obivion is old every1's already played it

Oblivion is sooo 6 months ago

by BaNdItO - 2006-09-27 22:18
» 360 Games will soon be 1080p

You guys do know that Microsoft is releasing a patch with the usual Xbox-Live update, so games in the future, and some already released games will now be 1080p compatible, PS3 has been met yet again (also not all PS3 games are 1080p as standard, most are 780p). The pic above looks exactly the same as the original elder scrolls on the 360, i see no difference, and i dont think that the PS3 version warrants a purchase(WOW! a new faction...). Both games will be IDENTICAL, except for the new "Revolutionary" faction (A gimmick). I'm glad to see that it's made it's way to PS3, and i dont see why this was such a huge kept secret...

by wtf - 2006-09-27 22:40
» wtf

Some of you people are *****ing morons. How are these graphics bad? Because you can't afford a console to play the game? Your computer was made in 1998? Shut the ***** up. Everyone knows the bloom and HDR is overkill, but that can be turned off.

by mr new york - 2006-09-27 23:05
» wow

look at all the xbots trying to say the graphics sucks,you guys are *****ing pathetic morons..go to hell haters..

by Planet - 2006-09-27 23:14
» The way of 1080p

Half a year ago, MS said 1080p is not possible at all, and laughed about the PS3. The well trained crowd joined in the laughter, of course. Then Sony spoiled the fun with announcing and showing more and more 1080p games.



2 months ago, MS said 1080p is not important at all, since nobody owns a 1080p display and 720p is the way to go. The well trained crows joined in and shook heads about Sony's stupid plans. Then the crowd realized, that 1080p-displays won't keep the same price tag forever and might eventually become relevant.



A month ago, MS said the X360 will support 1080p output (for the time being just upscaled 720p, but other studios are allowed to create native 1080p-rendering). The well trained crowd suddenly praises 1080p brought to them by the power of X360 (many failing to realize it will just be upscaled at least for a while).



If MS ever announced HD-DVD games (which will not happen, but just imagining it), i bet even that would be very welcomed and praised by the same crowd...

by MasterMagneto - 2006-09-27 23:59
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Gay dude. Gay. I hope they put that extra content on the xbox live marketplace.

by BULL3TPR00F - 2006-09-28 00:00
» wow

nocomment

by registered - 2006-09-28 00:19
» damn

wow 1080p Oblivion cant wait for one

by daz - 2006-09-28 00:28
» >>Planet

couldnt have put it better myself :-D

by mshar - 2006-09-28 00:28
» Crusades

"the chance to become a Divine Crusader."



How stupid! I can't believe their allowing such a thing. It's like making a game in which you can become a divine nazi. Racist mofos.

by kura - 2006-09-28 00:48
» if 360 games will soon reach 1080p

360 games will also reach limit of 9GB sooner.

by to matt the idiot at #1 - 2006-09-28 00:51
» to matt the idiot at #1

this news is exactly the same as on the psp and ps3 section, even the comments are the same, cuz its linked together moron like this whole site. if you go 2 the ps3 page u will see ur comment looks really stupid lololol.

by TOOL is COOL - 2006-09-28 00:54
» I swear it looks sortof worse in my eye....

Now I must say that I do own this game on the 360 (dont get me wrong... I do want a ps3) but the photos look very.... bland... I dont know why but maybe its just the picture and not the game but I guess you cannot judge a game's graphics by photos...

by daz - 2006-09-28 01:02
» yeah but...

fair comment no.29, but who said these where ps3 screenshots and not 360?

by Sandman - 2006-09-28 01:06
» old news?

not ragging on this announcment you'er making, I mean i love that Oblivion is coming to the PS3, but didnt we know that since April?

http://games.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/04/25/1936218

by phalanges - 2006-09-28 01:40
» Planet

I agree, couldn't say it better myself either.

by sakura - 2006-09-28 01:47
» #5

ok #5 u do kno that oblivion will be ported, meaning the same textures from the xbox and pc versions, it will be scaled to 1080p wich is not the same. the game wont look any different as far as the 360's its the conent that will make it a difference on the ps3.

by KnowLedge - 2006-09-28 02:22
» Sonyprophet correct yet again.

Check out the textures, they are HIGH RES all over the screen and in the background. They are much worse on X360 and PC.



Also there's finally Anisotropic Filtering.

by ... - 2006-09-28 02:30
by Vietone - 2006-09-28 02:42
» This game

This game isnt for everyone. This is a game where your time spent in the gam is what you're rewarded.



Many people simnply pick up the game, play for a while, get confused on the lvling system, get confused on many things and put it on the shelf or sell it.



So you think Xbox360 will get 1080p native games? I dont think so. For instance DVD9 just doesnt have the space.



Example on a new game. Just Cause



The graphics in the game are decent. But the environment is MASSIVE. I could believe how big the place really is until i drove around.



Whats the file size? 7.34 GB on my PC.



That means its roughly the same on the Xbox360 because the downloadable image is around 6GB, decompress and it will be roughly 7GB.



Does the game look anything close to the games that will be comming out for the Xbox360 and PS3? NOT EVEN CLOSE.



At 1920x1080 with graphics set to High for everything the game looks identical when i set the resolution to 1280x720. What does this mean? The game was designed to run in 720p. Any higher resolutions will just show the game upscaled, and therefore LITTLE improvement to graphics, just the models will be less jaggy.



Thats 720p game at 7GB.



What would the game be if it was designed for 1080p?



Considering that 1080p is over 2x the pixel count of 720p, the minimum for Just Cause in 1080p would be roughly 12-14GB.



Oblivion obviously doesnt look much better on the Xbox360 then the PC cause the game was designed for the Xbox360. Its very obvious when setting the resolution above 720p cause at 1080p, its upscaled and its very obvious because the textures and models have no improvement when set at 1080p.



Microsoft and fanboys alike can play that the DVD9 will never be broken. By the end of next year DVD9 will be what developers are talking about, not because of its greatness and microsofts "choice", but because it will limit the ability of developers to make games for the system.



By that time they will want to make games on HD-DVD. Microsoft wont let that happen, or either make some stupid way of making it happen that makes them seem like the good guys.



Oblivion has subpar Models, but the textures make up for it.



Just cause has subpar graphics, but the environment makes up for it.



See the limitation of space. PC based games look amazing. All console fans can argue all they want but when it comes down to it, the PC is unbeatable in graphics, and gameplay. There are little to no restrictions since people have large Hard Drives. I for one have a total of 780GB. It sucks to see games on both PC and Console and the PC version suffers because of the handicaps on the console.



But I can also argue that PC Ports look ugly. There hasnt been a port to the Xbox360 that even looks half as good as the PC version. Why? Because when running anything from a DVD drive, its going to be 1/4 as good as running from a hard drive.

by Singster - 2006-09-28 02:52
»

Gamespot says its coming out for the PSP too.

by [BOT] Bob - 2006-09-28 03:01
» What?

Oblivion is cool and all, but it is kind of old hat. I mean back when it was announced like a year or more ago, was the last time it looked "next-gen." The jerky animations and the extremely boring circumlocuitous dialogue really detract from the experience. Come on Jak and Daxter had procedural animation blending and that was released in 2001. But the horribly slow dialogue is what put me off, if Bethesda actually played through it they would have said, "Holy crap! people don't actually talk like that, they are acting retarded. We need to make it more concise."

by wbc1228 - 2006-09-28 03:08
» huh?

So, this is the super secret title for the PS3 that can't be guessed. That is pathetic. We knew about it way back (or the possibility of one from rumors). I see this is the best Sony can do in generating hype. Well, they suck at it.

by mukus - 2006-09-28 03:09
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Great game, go buy it PS3 fanboys so that Bethesda can give us ES: V as soon as possible

by ohio4987 - 2006-09-28 03:22
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Oh snap! Never get glocked!

by E - 2006-09-28 03:29
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#36 - Pretty much what I was going to argue as well. Does anyone have the current size of Oblivion (PC and 360)?



The big question is whether Bethesda will upgrade the textures and models used on the PS3 version. If we believe all the "insider's PS3 talk" that was posted on some blog and linked to from qj some time ago, then the answer to that question would be "yes". I guess we'll have to wait another week and a half to get some confirmation.

by I'll buy a Ps3 when its $150.00 - 2006-09-28 03:39
»

LOl, a Year old game. That looks worse on the Ps3. Way!!! to go Sony. Sony has gotten their hats handed to them so far this gen. RE5 360 exclusive, Lost guitar hero as exclusive, Lost Assassins Creed as exclusive, in-fact all the talk and pics are now 360 hype, All Ps3 games shown looked downgraded from e3, 360 fall update to support 1080p, (Not that more then 2% of TV owners have better than 1080i) but still another lost exclusive. 360 sold 5 million consoles as of june 06, 1.3 million alone in europe, Forcasting 10 million by x-mas, while Ps3 won't even have 2 million worldwide to sell. I could just go on and on and on and on and on.

by Nada - 2006-09-28 04:01
» To my best friend #43

I can't even get mad at you. I sometimes start fights in 360 forums when I get bored. I'll respond. Where do I start, how about XBOX announcements that people somehow get excited over:



HDDVD Add on:

Only $200m, it makes the 360 almost like a PS3 except it now officially costs more and offers less. Don't mention that it'll burn your house down if you leave that thing on to long. You don't have Wi-fi. How can you have an HDDVD w/o HDMI?! The crazy thing about the HDDVD attachment is that it's an attachment. Attachments look bad.



1080p:

It's not real 1080 b/c most HDTV's don't ofer 1080p support with cables. 95% of HDTV's on the market offer 1080p signals through HDMI only. "Your sound is not even digital. The 360 is finished.



Free Repairs:

Don't get excited over free repairs!!! It means your system is a piece of crap. I had no idea they were charging people to fix that thing in the first place!



What I don't get with M$ is that they are making huge deals about stuff that noone cares about. The GTA4 thing, who cares it sounds like extra sceens or something stupid. Splinter Cell vs. MGS4 who do you think will win.



Fact Sheet let's turn our out of date 360 to a NEXT GEN PS3:



360 - $400

40 more gigs of HDD - $200

HDDVD Add on - $200

Wireless Gameing Attachment- $100

XBOX - $50 a year (forever)

360 Fan - $30



1080p - Find the %5 of HDTV''s that can produce this

with cables

Games - 2 Disc, if you want a game were a developer did not have to cut corners.



Grand Total = $980 + annual payments of $50

by PC fan - 2006-09-28 04:14
»

Great news for the 10 sony fanboys who are gonna buy the PS3. Oblivion was the best on PC. PC > PS3 and Xbox360

by informer - 2006-09-28 04:15
» 360 can't do 1080p

MS if full of ***** and is just throwing out lies.

Check out the article:

http://gear.ign.com/articles/735/735860p1.html

by Mukus - 2006-09-28 04:15
»

Poor little Nada, don't like it don't buy it, easy as that, we don't give a ***** what you think about the xbox360, really, I swear, and that post is waaaay offtopic here.

by brunobelo - 2006-09-28 04:16
» A good reason to get PS3.

Well, if the Oblivion for PS3 have better frame-rate and better graphics (speccially frame-rate, the X360 version have awful FR...), I'll buy a PS3. Oblivion rox, it is a GREAT game!



Guitar Hero 2 for X360 and Oblivion for PS3... Gentlemen, start your engines! :-D

by RastaDator - 2006-09-28 04:26
» While Im not too excited

about this game on PS3 but I understand why SONY is getting it. This game is a very cool RPG and japanese have not enjoyed it yet cause x360 is a failure in Japan. Pushing a PS3 port will make SONY's RPG library pretty strong and attractive for japanese gamers.



On PSP side, if Bethesda makes Oblivion a good PSP game, this will be a hit, a system seller.



My only hope is that Bethesda makes good use of PS3 capabilities (BR, HD, CELL) producing a game for the PS3 and not a mediocre port.



#43 is mad. TGS showed how impressive PS3 games are. Some lost exclusivities will not make any difference because SONY has around 100 titles in production waiting to be uncovered.

by ILuvGames - 2006-09-28 04:34
» #36 - Oh Vietone (*shakes head*) ;)

Finally gamers have something to talk about after TGS, anyway....



>"So you think Xbox360 will get 1080p native games? I dont think so. For instance DVD9 just doesnt have the space."



Of course it will have 1080p native games, DVD9 will not prevent that from being possible. Oblivion on the PC requires 4.7GB of HD space. If the 360 version is larger on DVD9, that's either because a) the developers have used the space available by using less compression, or b) dummy files have been added to 'push' data to the faster outer regions of the DVD (just like many PS2 and XBox games last gen).



>"But I can also argue that PC Ports look ugly. There hasnt been a port to the Xbox360 that even looks half as good as the PC version. Why? Because when running anything from a DVD drive, its going to be 1/4 as good as running from a hard drive."



Sigh, you STILL don't get it. You say PC based games look amazing, and yet how many of those 'amazing' PC games you're thinking of require more than the space on DVD9? Name them please. PC games are still distributed on DVD9, and whilst data can be decompressed on the HDD, in most cases, the total game size is still less than 8GB.



So it's not storage space which is the main limitation, it is RAM! That's why the PC is often way ahead of consoles, not just because of the power available, but because of the huge amount of RAM possible, both on the graphics cards and the main system. The XBox 360 and PS3 have only 512MB of RAM, and atleast half of that is for graphics! At any given moment in a game 9i.e. in every screenshot you see), ALL of the graphics you see on screen was processed from the data sitting in memory at the time. The more memory you have, the more graphical detail you can have. In otherwords, if either the 360 or PS3 had 1GB of RAM instead of 512MB, then they would have been capable of producing better graphics.



I'm not saying storage limitation will not have an effect of course, it will if developers choose to use lower res textures to save space. But there are other options too, such as to use less textures overall by relying on more repeated textures, or spanning the game over multiple discs. Not as good as having more space, like that offered by Blu-ray, but these are still a few of many solutions which will work.



So it's nonsense to say native 1080p will not be possible on the 360 because of DVD9, and it's also nonsense to assume that 512MB of RAM on the console will have no influence on the graphics. Certain PC ports to 360 AND PS3 will be effected by the RAM available, even if the consoles have more than enough power to cope with the game.

by nada is a funny kid - 2006-09-28 04:34
» @ 44 who knows exactly nada about anything)

you sony fanboys are soooo hilarious!!!



you guys swear life and limb that the PS3 is "gonna pwn teh 360"



its not even released yet!! it doesn't even exist except in little glass booths for displays or demos.



you're comparing one next gen system to another that really only exists on paper and in the hyped up videos that Sony have released.



Remember how much Sony hyped up the PSP and how is was gonna be the iPod/DS killer, the king of portable multimedia? LOL



any claim you may make about how much the PS3 is gonna ROCK is purely worthless, hardly more substance than a rumor, because anything you know about the PS3 all came from SONY.



and we all know about the SONY hype machine and how they dropped the ball on many levels time and time again.



so keep jiggling the nuts of your favorite imaginary console, because absolutely NOTHING of what you said regarding the PS3 can be considered more than hype until the machine is actually released.

by truth - 2006-09-28 04:41
» 51

you suck at life. No really... you do.



Anyone who thinks the PS3 in going to flop is serously retarded. Same goes to those who think the same about the 360.

by ILuvGames - 2006-09-28 04:44
» #46

>"MS if full of ***** and is just throwing out lies."



How is it a lie when it will offer 1080p? The issue with the TVs themselves is something quite different.



Until the recent announcement that the 20GB PS3 will also have HDMI (horay!), the same would have applied to that model of the PS3 also. So, were Sony throwing out lies too?

by Not being a fanboy - 2006-09-28 04:45
» #51

Can you really dispute the price list that Nada put together? When you think about it, the actual cost of 360 specs matching the PS3 is about 900+.

by truth - 2006-09-28 04:48
» 1080p

Its worthless if your HDTV has an HDMI port only, which most do. HDMI will soon be the only port for HDTVs, so all this compnent crap is worthless



Thus, the HDMI-less PS3 and 360 can't to it.

by PC Gamer - 2006-09-28 04:52
» To 44

So because xbox 360 cant do 1080p support and have a smaller HD then PS3 that makes it better? PS2 didnt have all HD tv support stuff or a HD but poeple still liked it. I find it funny how you agrue over something as stupid as how it looks on a tv. An xbox 360 owner doesnt have to buy all that extra stuff to catch up to the PS3 technology wise. They have been enjoying there xbox 360 for almost a year now while poeple hope and wait to get there hands on a PS3. With the next wave of good xbox 360 games it seems that xbox 360 owners are happy with there systems. While PS3 owners will have to wait to get some really good PS3 games.



Its the games that make a system what it is not the technology/features. Each next gen system appeals to certain poeple. If you love fps and online play xbox 360 is for you. If you love the old snes games like mario donkey and zelda and want a new way to play games then the Wii is for you. Only thing I really knew about the PS3 is that it cost a ton so not sure who it appeals too.



I gave up on consoles cuz it seems there just making them into a computer. I rather just buy a nice gaming pc(which I did) for a little more then a PS3 with superior technology/features/games then any console will ever have plus the computer has the BIGGEST library of games out of any system. And with the Download to drive websites can buy games and download them straight to your HD so no reserving games or waiting in long lines for Madden or whatever.

by ILuvGames - 2006-09-28 04:53
» #55

>"Thus, the HDMI-less PS3 and 360 can't to it."



There is nolonger an HDMI-less PS3. Sony recently announced that BOTH models will have HDMI.



Also, component isn't going to be phased out by HDMI anytime soon.

by truth - 2006-09-28 04:56
» 57

I was referring to your comment about the original 20gb PS3.



As for componet be phased out, I've heard differently

by truth - 2006-09-28 04:59
»

People CHOOSe to wait for the PS# b/c they prefer it o think its a better product. I don't think any of them suffered for it...



As for how it looks on the TV, no it doesn't matter too much (1080i vs 1080p) but Hi-def is the theme of these next-gen consoles.

by Septimus - 2006-09-28 04:59
» to #55

There is no HDMI-less PS3 ;)

by ILuvGames - 2006-09-28 05:00
» #58

>"I was referring to your comment about the original 20gb PS3."



Ok. :)



>"As for componet be phased out, I've heard differently"



Perhaps you could provide a link? :)

by nada thinks we dont know he is "truth" - 2006-09-28 05:06
» @ 52

Truth, (nada you're not fooling anyone)



you have no reading comprehension whatsoever - YOU are the one who SUCKS beacuse you only see/read/hear what you want to and ignore the rest



I never said the PS3 will flop, I just exposed you for the blind pathetic fanboy that you are because you are licking the balls of a system which DOESN'T EVEN EXIST for public consumption yet.



all the so-called "facts" you have about your beloved "fairy godmother" console were provided to you by Sony, and then recycled by other sites like IGN and CNET.



your system is practically non-existent until it hits the shelves. so keep masaging sonys prostate and regurgitating Sony hype like a Red-State-Gun-toting-Bush-supporter

by Twiz - 2006-09-28 05:11
»

Sony will not die. Just that the 360 is going to eat at it like cancer. So far sony is unimpressive @ launch. Just like Ps2 was. Hell Ps2 was crap when it launched.



Also who the hell owns a tv that displays 1080p? No one I know. I ain't updating my 50 inch 1080i tv just to play video games. I have been to best buy and looked at the 1080p tvs and I don't see enough of a difference to even care. Especially not enough of a difference to spen $4000.00 So weather MS or Ps3 support it doesn't matter. What mattered was, now watch this fanboys, what matters is that Sony can't boast about it being the only console with 1080p, now keep following me, which is basically another "exclusive" it had and lost.



And the guy who calculated the PS3 to 360 with HD DVD player left a few things out.



Wheres the wireless controller,and remote and headset that was free when ya buy the premium? Lets see thats 100, 39.99 and 29.99 that you can subtract. So lets see (



You got to purchase the HDMI cable for Sony's machine. Wheres that cost? The wireless adapter is not needed, nor is the fan. So really the xbox is quite a lot less expesive. Infact subtracting all your Added and left out shyte I come to: $681.00, But I'll round that to 720.00 with tax and what not.



Good try tho.

by logicbomb.de - 2006-09-28 05:21
» Specs on paper versus real *****in life

Based on the performance specs listed by both Sony and Nintendo, the PSP should be murdering the DS left and right in every market.



We all know this is NOT the case. The DS is comming out on top in neary every market and every quarter, with few exceptions.



If you think the PS3 is going to beat the 360 simply based on superior tech specs, you're living in fanboy fantasy land.



the 360 could easily come out on top due to the price tag alon when PS3 finally lauches, it has certainlly been a huge factor in the DS/PSP battle.



me personly, I own every system including all handhelds (im a collector and modder) and will eventually own a PS3.



until then, these heated discussion prove to be quite entertaining

by The Cold Truth - 2006-09-28 05:29
» To #63

/agree

by who cares - 2006-09-28 05:38
» Question for 360 Fanboys

FYI - Sony has sold over 200 million PS2's during its lifetime. The 360 has sold about 6 million units after an entire year. With there being at least 200 million gamers how can any of you guys confidently say that the 360 will win this thing?



Is it safe to imply that 194 million gamers are waiting only for the wii?



....just curious

by logicbomb.de - 2006-09-28 05:40
» @ 63

also agreed.



I'm not made of money and won't be being any 1080i/p gear anytime soon, so i would find it a unexcusable waste of money to spend hundreds of $$ just to upscale textures on a 1080 screen which I don't even own.



I also gotta agree that lots of fanboys are taking every bit of PS3 info/speculation as gospel-truth. Its the equivalent of saying that Jesus Christ (PS3) will cometh forth and kicketh the crap out of Bill Gates (360) because the Lord (Sony) and His faithful followers (fanboys) said so, so it shall be written, so it shall be done.



Sony has a nasty habit of claiming superior spec but not mentioning the crippling limitations that are sure to follow (can you say PSP MP4/AVC capped resolution?)

by comparing a one year old with a 7 year old - 2006-09-28 05:50
» @ 66

Your question hardly even merits any serious though beacuse your comparisons are WAY WAY off.



How on earth are you going to compare one console first year of sales against another LIFETIME sales totalling almost 7 years??!!



"My 6 foot foot tape measure is better than your metric ruler beacuse I can measure bigger objects"



thats your comarison ina nutshell.

by Twizz - 2006-09-28 05:53
» To # 66.

How many units did the PS2 move in one year of life?

Oh yeah, 6 million. Let em state it so you can understand; Ps2 did not sell 200 million consoles in 1 year. It didn't sell that meany in 2 years. However if you are gonna use stats that show nothing, xbox is selling right in the same area for it's first year. Neat huh?



However you can not compare Ps2 and 360 to get stats on PS3. You can only compare 360 and Ps3 to get states between the two. So lets do this;



360 - 5 million sold as of june 06.

Ps3 - 0 Sold as of June 06.



Let me know know when that changes. Remeber tho, even when it changes; Sony will only have up to 2 million consoles world wide for sale on launch. (although all reports show it'll be alot less). So even in January 07 Ps3 will only be able to sell up to 2 million.

Im not gonna specualte for the 360, but even if it didn't sell one console, it would still be 3 million ahead of Ps3. :)

by WC - 2006-09-28 06:02
» 200 million gamers

200 mil? You are assuming that each gamer bought a PS2 and only 1 PS2. They didn't buy 3 because 2 died or anything. And they didn't -not- buy a PS2.



No, you can't infer anything from those numbers.



And 68 is right, also... You can't measure the 7 year lifespan of 1 console against another console's first year. Talk to us when the xbox 1440 is out and the PS4 and then compare the numbers.

by 360 King - 2006-09-28 06:21
» True HD Gaming

The 360 now has 1080p w/o paying $600! We also have the HDDVD add-on, IF WE CHOOSE.



360 is shrinking the gap every couple of days. The 360 is future proof. Every time sony thinks they have an advantage 360 matches it.



GOW is going to really hurt but Halo will be the nail in the coffin.

by - 2006-09-28 06:50
» What exactly do you call this?

http://ps3.qj.net/PS3-Mystery-Title-Not-Oblivion/pg/49/aid/66549



I want an apology from Justin B. and for him to admit that he was just bull*****ting us.

by Fernie03 - 2006-09-28 07:07
» xbox haters

Look how worried all the xbox 360 owners are of the PS3 that they are posting on PS3 news sites No matter what price or what happens Playstation has it locked down on the console market 360 depends on solo games like halo hahahhahahahahh ahahahha

by Shek - 2006-09-28 07:08
» HAHA

Ive been playing this game for like 10 months now!!! Almost a year...



who gives a crap that PS3 gets a almost year old game?

by Sabe - 2006-09-28 07:13
»

I know most of you idiots won't read this, but I feel the need to say it anyway.



Take a look at yourselves. You're arguing about games. Games. You know? For entertainment? It's pathetic. Games are supposed to be for fun and you're running around screaming "MY CONSOLE IS BETTER BECAUSE IT HAS BLAH BLAH BLAH."



Please. Stop.

by Fozzybear - 2006-09-28 07:16
» Duh...

Why were people like, not believing them in the first place? This is great news for anyone who plans on buying a PS3, now that it's kinda sorta confirmed...

by KnowLedge - 2006-09-28 07:26
» What a trash bin this news is.

Stop the fanboy wars.



In the end PS3 is getting Oblivion, with high res textures all over the place (it's painful to watch N64 textures in X360 version), anisotropic filtering (textures are sharp all over the place), better framerate, and over 10h of new story, not to mention all the additional equipment and sidequests.



So yeah, PS3 gets the superior version.





As for 1080p on X360, M$ already said in IGN interview, that X360 just can't run 1080p games, it doesn't have enough internal bandwidth, and *****, I knew that year ago.



Here's the link: http://gear.ign.com/articles/735/735860p1.html .



GTFO xbots

by Ron Oliver - 2006-09-28 07:30
» Postings

Hey XBOX guys, I just want to let you know that their are forums for people that have 360s. I noticed that gamepro has a forum over the announcement that you guys will get free repairs on your 360s. You hear that, free repairs. This is almost as good as the $200 HDDVD add - on!



I don't know about you guys but that makes me excited!

by Sabe - 2006-09-28 07:32
»

Yeah, I should of known you wouldn't listen.



Enjoy your pointless arguments.

by Fernie - 2006-09-28 07:34
» >>>>Sabe

look at you trying to lecture people and tell them what theyre doing wrong get a life get laid have kids (((if your D*** is big enough))))) and lecture them

by =) - 2006-09-28 07:53
» =)

you guys are *****ing NERDS!!!

by Muhu - 2006-09-28 07:55
» MWAR MWAR MWAR MWAR

KWARRRRRRRRRRRR RRRRRRRRRRRRRRR RRRRRRRRRRRRRRR R

by GamesFan - 2006-09-28 08:05
» #77 - KnowLedge, that article was wrong. Read it again.

>"As for 1080p on X360, M$ already said in IGN interview, that X360 just can't run 1080p games, it doesn't have enough internal bandwidth, and *****, I knew that year ago.



Here's the link: http://gear.ign.com/articles/735/735860p1.html .

KnowLedge, your stupidity amazes me sometimes."



"Microsoft: *updated* Yes, the Xbox 360 has the necessary internal bandwidth between CPUs and graphics processors to move a full 1080p image."



I repeat that again in case you didn't see it;



"Microsoft: *updated* Yes, the Xbox 360 has the necessary internal bandwidth between CPUs and graphics processors to move a full 1080p image."



And once more, just for you;



"Microsoft: *updated* Yes, the Xbox 360 has the necessary internal bandwidth between CPUs and graphics processors to move a full 1080p image."



So, you were saying?



>"I knew that year ago."



And you were as wrong then as you are now.

by Figboy - 2006-09-28 08:10
» just a thought...

here's something to think about concerning Oblivion on the PSP:



the price of memory sticks is going down exponentially.



by next April, who knows how cheap 4 gig memory sticks will be.



my point is: how do we know Oblivion on the PSP will be on a 1.5 gig UMD?



the cost of producing 4 gig memory sticks could be extremely cheap in April, and the game could ship on a memory stick instead, and still for around $40 (though i'd guess $49.99 because of the content).



GTA: LCS did wonders on the 1.5 gig UMD, and i'm sure VCS will do more (it *is* bigger than LCS), but they can't compare with Oblivion.



of course, it's been said that the PSP version is totally different than the PS3/PC/360 version, and apparently takes place in a different setting. it'll be interesting to read that OPM in a few weeks, that's for sure.

by truth - 2006-09-28 08:28
» 62

actually, you're wrong, (i'm not nada) but u did piss me off with your fanboy rant when you clearly are one yourself

by truth - 2006-09-28 08:41
» PS #62

So just becasue the PS3 isn't out yet, we aren't allowed to have any expectations about it what so ever? Are we suppossed to assume that its just a piece of plasti wiht no potential whatsoever???



Or can we assume that since Sony has dominated the console market for the last decade and developed two very successful consoles, that the PS3 will also be a very good console that will be AT LEAST as successful as the 360- which is the xbox successor-which is a console that didn't do so well compared to the PS2. (106 million to 26million)



granted, things change with time, but why would anyone assume that Sony is producing a piece of *****???



I think you are naive.

by durrrr - 2006-09-28 09:01
» i agree with 85

"you have no reading comprehension whatsoever - YOU are the one who SUCKS beacuse you only see/read/hear what you want to and ignore the rest"



You know maybe your rant wouldnt be so goddamn retarded if you would stop with the homosexual metaphors, also, reading comprehension has absoluely NOTHING to do with what he said.



"The 360 is future proof."



Hmmm, I don't think so. Xbox was future-proof compared to Ps2 (Online broadband, HDD, Progressive Scan) but I think Microsoft sorta dropped the ball this time, all the new fangled features that PS3 has is in the form of attachments on the 360, and nobody likes having to buy another little box so they can use some functionality that was included on another system out of the box.



Case in point- Ps2 HDD and Ps2 Online Adapter.

by radzy - 2006-09-28 09:06
» is it possible

i was just wondering if it was possible in about 2 years time



they will b e able to make xbox360 games using the hd-dvd



add-on ?



Also is it possible to have a hdmi add-on ?



please provide proof(links)


by fr - 2006-09-28 09:22
» Meh

The content will be on the Marketplace, guaranteed

by Kaz Hirai - 2006-09-28 09:38
» To 84 (Figboy)

The Universal Media Disc (UMD) is an optical disc medium developed by Sony for use on the PlayStation Portable. It can hold up to 1.8 gigabytes of data, which can include games, movies, music, or a combination thereof.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Media_Disc

by Soma - 2006-09-28 09:40
» ^^^^^

Kaz Hirai is right UMD holds 1.8 gigabytes not 1.5

by awesomenews - 2006-09-28 09:50
» awesome

Wow, this is good news. I only hope that they improve it so it doesnt chop and lag every so often when running through the environment. I couldn't stand that about the 360, you'd run through the grass and every few seconds it would delay. I don't care if the gfx get upgraded but please fix the slowdown. With the PS3's superior hardware, it should be able to handle this game no problem.

by ContrAss - 2006-09-28 10:04
» xbox fanboi *****s

Screw your little, "its not fair" bull$h|t; do you even look at the larger picture? Anyone care to realize how cornered Microsoft is on this one, tiny little fact: It's a rushed product! I'm seriously getting pissed with Microsoft's limped wristed tactics, that is too buy out games and exclusively throw them on their platform. Splinter Cell, Alan Wake, Bioshock, and many others in the future will never become the true potential it can be because...its on a rushed product!



Okay seriously, I'm just going to let it out. Oblivion will be the final product because it'll be made the way it should have been. And infact no xbot can say it's a gimped version when you fail to--but most likely try not too--remember what Microsoft was pulling with the delerious horse armor. So eat that ***** and go play your only unique games on the wii--because Peter Moore knows that that's the only way xbots will get to play them.



and one last little thing: PS3 is sooo much better

by Dipsy Doodle - 2006-09-28 10:12
» to # 94

You'll be lucky if Sony doesn't go banrupt within the next 5 years. Let alone winning this console gen. If blu Ray fails they just may.

by XboxHater - 2006-09-28 10:33
» Ok Ok. I like that post...

nocomment

by wii - 2006-09-28 11:12
»

Wii FTW!!!

by ummm - 2006-09-28 11:15
» ummm

I WOULD LOVE TO KNOW HOW MANY OF YOU LIARS ACTUALLY OWN A 1080P TV.

by Vecha - 2006-09-28 11:17
» haha

what's the big deal?





man i hate fanboys...



i'll be picking this one up..because it has MORE game to it.





gamers should care about the games...not the system.

by XboxHater - 2006-09-28 11:34
» Ok Ok. I like that post...

First____ Oblivion is a good news. Why, because it show how dev. don't care about what M$ as doing. It's suppose to be exclusive for X360 and now (oh oh) for PS3. Tecmo doing the same thing with Ninja gaiden. Ok it's a remake but now it's really looking good for having the next one on PS3 too (sooner or later). M$ announce some exclusives crap at X06. Do you really think they will be exclusives for long? (even by miracle it is, an alternate version will be made for PS3). ---It was like that for all gen-console and i don't think that gonna change----



Second___for all XBOXFNABOY read carefully... M$ are laughing at you. Way more you can think that $ony do. Can someone tell me why they don't put all those add-on, suppose to be useless (M$ said), in the machine at first. They are now trying to convince you that you can have a PS3 for less. M$ are afraid of $ony and all the choice they made prove it. The way i see it, it's like M$ are trying every thing they can to achieve what PS3 is. I'll be scared if i have a x360. After one year you suppose to go forward not try to remake the machine. And why they can't explain how there supposed 1080p are technically made. Oh wait, there a HDMI add-on on the way 100% sure.



Finally PS3 are better than x360 it's a fact but that's mean nothing the most important are the games, now that Ninja gaiden are on PS3 for me there's only halo left for 360. Ok now Gow and lost planet are the only games that can make the list. And again how can we be sure that they will remain for X360 only.



PS: don't try to bull***t me it's not affecting me. And i brought an x360 at launch but after 3 month i realise the crap it was so i sell it. You can't even copied mp3 on it. How shame...

by lol internet - 2006-09-28 11:58
» for that last time

you guys are all a bunch of sniveling fanoi wankers.



all of you defending the PS3 are so obciously sheep because you clearly believe everything Sony tells you and you blindy follow the flock and bash anyone who says otherwise.



only the blindest and dumbest of you take offense when its pointed out that the machine isn't even available yet and for all purposes is VAPORWARE until it hits the shelves but yet you disintegrate into namecalling a flaming with no facts to back it up.



I'm just so amused by all of you silly ass little trolls just wantonly praising a system that ONLY EXISTS ON THE INTERNET!!!



I bet every one of you sorry as fanbois curse out sony for their "gay" firmware.....



you are all so stupid.



oh and I MUST be a microsoft fanboy beacause I don't share your views.....



wrong again!!! i own EVERY SYSTEM except 360 and I will get one as soon as the things gets hacked a little more and I will pirate every game I can get my mitts on.

and when the PS3 gets hacked I'll do the same goddamn thing there too.



but seriously tho, of all the system PS3 has to be the worst because its not even out yet.



feel free to back my typos and my grammar or whatever lame exercise makes you feel like you're important on the interweb.



LOLOOOLLLOOOOLL OLOOOLOOOLOOOOL

by XboxHater - 2006-09-28 12:01
» I know i know...

XBOXFANBOY not XBOXFNABOY. I think you are smart enough to know that.

by AHAHHAHAHA - 2006-09-28 12:04
» AHAHHAHAHAAH

PS3 FANBOYS HAVE ASS RAMMING PARTIES IN THE BASEMENTS OF THEIR PARENT'S HOUSES AND AFTERWARDS THEY PLAY GUITAR HERO 2.



PS3 FANBOYS THROW ASS RAMMING PARTIES....







PS3 FANBOYS THROW ASS RAMMING PARTIES......





PS3 FANBOYS PLAY WITH PET HAMPSTERS......

by Yoshihiro - 2006-09-28 12:04
» for all purposes....

at this time the PS3 is about as real as my downgrader



eff you sony! eff you microsoft!



wii is best!!



viva la France!!

by ahhahahahaah - 2006-09-28 12:07
» ahahhaahha

PS3 FANBOYS HAVE ASS RAMMING PARTIES IN THE BASEMENTS OF THEIR PARENT'S HOUSES AND AFTERWARDS THEY PLAY GUITAR HERO 2.









PS3 FANBOYS THROW ASS RAMMING PARTIES.

by XboxHater - 2006-09-28 12:29
» lol internet is right!

I agree with you. The main reason i brought the first xbox was the modchip. When the machine are moded it's way better ,we can't use all the potential.



By the way I'm not a fanboy, i just really... really... REALLY... hate the X360 after i buy it. I was so happy to be the first one to have one and then i realise that most games lag (except XLA games i hope), the machine overheat, the machine make lot of noise, you can't put mp3, you can't put your own video, the backward compatibility suck, there's no AAA games, i put it in vertical and the dvd door jam, you have to pay to play online, there's an external brick power supply, the DVD player options suck, it can't play dvix .avi, it have a high-def titanic movie trailer and doesn't tell you how to play other HD video.... what XBL only...lame and finally the Media center setup crap. WOW i was shock!

by Wii Fanboy - 2006-09-28 14:01
» Whatever happend to good ol games...

There is nothing original about a PS3 port of ES VI...



Every video game system makes promises and breaks them... besides Nintendo...



The gamecube could've pawned both PS2 and XBOX but all you sorry ass excuse for gamers turned your back on the system therefore making it a flop and it not having a sh*tload of good games...(although I've enjoyed many)...(look at the graphics for Starfox for GC)



Because of the price of the PS3 and Xbox 360 I will not be able to afford a tv in the future that supports 1080i so this makes no damn difference to me... and by the time I can afford one... guess what... PS4 and Xbox (insert name here) Eveygame I'm going to by is going to be based on how fun it is not how good it looks...



I miss my PS1 Laura Croft who could poke your damn eye out with here pointy jagged titties... but it was a good ass game... I think we all put the standard to high for video game graphics caause really I can give a ***** wether my ice is extra shinny on NHL 08 for PS3 or Xbox has more exclusive games...



Hell I own a psp and Nin DS and I've played a whole *****load of games for both... and really I beleive the DS comes out on top... And the ability to have homebrew is as all it is hyped up to be on the psp... Cause the emulators on my computer are way more advanced and more compatable... plus I can play it on a 35 Inch monitor not a tiny psp screen...



I'm going to get all three sytems and I have a funny suspicion I will have the most fun with my Wii once I play Animal Crossing Wii (It will come out one day) and get to use my controller as a fishing rod... lol

by JJRocks - 2006-09-28 14:05
» Sony

This cracks me up. When has sony EVER put out a dissappointing console? I love my playstation and I love my PSP. There is only 1 reason that DS is outselling PSP and that is the price, thats it, nothing else. I will take my chances with PS3 thanks, PS2 rocked xbox's socks off, so why should the next gen be any different? Also to the twit that said Sony is going to go banckrupt, GO BACK TO YOU HOLE because you are a tool. Sony is a powerhouse, even if blu-ray were to flop 100% (why anyone thinks it would is beyond me) they still wouldnt go bankrupt. Dont get me wrong, I own an xbox and I like it alot, its no ps2, but its good in its own right. I will probably buy a wii first since it so cheap, then I will buy a P3, then in a year I will buy a 360 at the pawnshop, just like I did the xbox (looked brand new, 2 controllers and a game for 80 bucks).

360 looks like a very nice system, but P3 is going to blow by the 360 like it was standing still and rip the sides clean off.

by Vecha - 2006-09-28 14:30
» let me reittereate. I hate fanboys. All of em.

"Second___for all XBOXFNABOY read carefully... M$ are laughing at you. Way more you can think that $ony do. Can someone tell me why they don't put all those add-on, suppose to be useless (M$ said), in the machine at first. They are now trying to convince you that you can have a PS3 for less. M$ are afraid of $ony and all the choice they made prove it. The way i see it, it's like M$ are trying every thing they can to achieve what PS3 is. I'll be scared if i have a x360. After one year you suppose to go forward not try to remake the machine. And why they can't explain how there supposed 1080p are technically made. Oh wait, there a HDMI add-on on the way 100% sure.



Finally PS3 are better than x360 it's a fact but that's mean nothing the most important are the games, now that Ninja gaiden are on PS3 for me there's only halo left for 360. Ok now Gow and lost planet are the only games that can make the list. And again how can we be sure that they will remain for X360 only.



PS: don't try to bull***t me it's not affecting me. And i brought an x360 at launch but after 3 month i realise the crap it was so i sell it. You can't even copied mp3 on it. How shame..."



your post was great till this lovely quote, "M$ are laughing at you. Way more you can think that $ony do. "



Bull-*****ing-*****. They both are laughing the same. why would M$ be laughing more then sony? Add-ons? I'd say the funny think is that sony is forcing us to buy all those add-ons which jumps the price up



"Finally PS3 are better than x360 it's a fact"



***** man. Why don't you just scream, "i'm a sony fanboy but its ok"



No neither is better then the other.



" that's mean nothing the most important are the games"



ok...you saved yourself...somewhat.



"Ok now Gow and lost planet are the only games that can make the list. And again how can we be sure that they will remain for X360 only."



wait a second...ninja gaiden..a remake...is one of the reasons you will choose the ps3? Man boy are you funny. And to top it off you think halo, GOW, and Lost Planet are the ONLY good games for it?



That'd be like me saying "ff13, MGS, and DMC is the only good games for the ps3"



Bull-*****ING-*****



and to top it off with a nice cherry



"You can't even copied mp3 on it. How shame..."



are you technological handicapped? I have thousands of mp3s on my 360...guess you are a grade A dumbass!

by Shigeru Miyamoto - 2006-09-28 14:44
» To 107

Wii sucks and you know it.

by Rayn - 2006-09-28 15:09
» you guys do relize 360 hasnt even released its full potential

360 is only using 1/3 of its maximum power which means that the games will not only look better but be able to act better,oblivion originally was gonna have a mind of its own but the Bethesda was scared taht it can out think a human so they had to make it dumber...and ooo yeh did i forget to mention that ps3 is making it less powerful now bcuz they keep frying the motherboards the graphic cards are the problems and its running too much power through it frying all the sautered on circuits through the mother board so that means it has to be weaker...Microsoft is THE BIGGEST software developer in the world and for those who dont know watch the movie "THE PIRATES OF SILICON VALLEY" it shows how bill gates got where he is today and making all the money he and his company has...Sony is powerful but if im not mistaken wat does a Sony Viao computer run on? isnt it windows? i thought windows was owned by Microsoft u dont see sony making a opperating system to keep up bcuz they cant they borrowed wat Bill Gates made and thats why 360 is gonna be better then PS3 bcuz they cant make the system components mesh together...



and no im not a Microsoft...XBOX or 360 fanboy im just stateing that 360 will be better then PS3 cuz sony is pissed that the regular xbox was better then the ps2 graphically and Gameplay wise...so sony is trying so hard to make it better but in the end they cant...thats why they used a beta 360 at this past yrs E3

by Nameless - 2006-09-28 15:15
» Haha

Originally posted by (110) Shigeru Miyamoto:

"Wii sucks and you know it."



You got nothin on Wii.





In relevant news...



Originally posted by [Bot] Bob:

"Oblivion is cool and all, but it is kind of old hat. I mean back when it was announced like a year or more ago, was the last time it looked 'next-gen.' The jerky animations and the extremely boring circumlocuitous dialogue really detract from the experience. Come on Jak and Daxter had procedural animation blending and that was released in 2001. But the horribly slow dialogue is what put me off, if Bethesda actually played through it they would have said, 'Holy crap! people don't actually talk like that, they are acting retarded. We need to make it more concise.'"



I agree.



I think we all need to take into account how HYPED this game was. This game was seriously hyped. And now, what, it's only been about 7 months since it's release, and it's dead history by now. Not quite the killer app everybody was hoping for, regardless of "how good a game it is". I hope people keep this in mind the next time they get ready to be hyped over something again.

by Satoru Iwata - 2006-09-28 15:36
» Wii will fail

Is this what you want to look like when you are playing with Nintendo's wii-wii.



http://wii.qj.net/uploads/articles_module/67674/cod.jpg



Look to the left of the picture and you will see a man that looks like a complete retard. Look to the right and you will see how horrible the graphics are on Nintendo's wii-wii.



Now ask yourself do you need to look like a retard when playing games? I know I don't.

by *****s - 2006-09-28 16:12
» *****s

anybody that thinks a ps3 is gonna be better than xbox 360 can suck my balls cause their a *****

by ILuvGames - 2006-09-28 17:34
» #100

Spoken like a true fanboy.



>"Finally PS3 are better than x360 it's a fact..."



It's not a fact, it's an opinion you idiot (sorry to be so direct ;)). Yes you can pick out specific areas which are better, but that applies to BOTH consoles, since both have their strengths and weaknesses.



The only FACT here is that the biased and tunnel vision viewpoints of fanboys (of all systems) makes them appear STUPID online. Even intelligent individuals who would normally be great discussing other subjects, suddenly become 'stupid' once they give in to their personal predudices. One of the sad truths about human nature. :|

by soapinmouth - 2006-09-28 17:35
» omfg fanbos are so *****ing anoying

PLEASE SHUT THE ***** UP, what are you trying to prove o yah if i say

"PS3 is sooo much better"

now some xbox fanboy will sudenly turnover and play ps3. Its pointless if your puny mind wasn't surrupted you would have known to watch the consolewar from a 3rd perons point ofview and buy an xbox AND a ps2. This is how i found my console and i hate my piece of ***** dumpstation 2. But it doesn't matter il get both consoles once again. (o and maybe a wii) 360 fanboys have handed over trillions of facts and proven why 360 is giving a better gaming experience. Now the ps3 fanboys go with the stupid remarks" omg xbots ur stupid console is rushed and......idk stupid...yah thats it, so it sucks "

by daz - 2006-09-28 18:40
» >>no.95

Sony? Bankrupt? im sorry, but isnt this the company that made a rather big profit this year, even though development costs for the PS3 would have been sky high?! im sure half of you d**kheads dont think. Sony just don't do consoles, they do PC's, Laptops, Mobile Phones, TV's (with some of the best HDTV's on the market), Hi-Fis and god knows what else.



Sony's PS3 will sell no matter what. Why? Simple, its a Playstation. The Playstation name is huge, far bigger than Microsoft's Xbox and Nintendo's former consoles (N64, Gamecube etc). People ignore that Sony does have a gigantic customer base. PS1 sold millions and PS2 is (i think) the biggest selling home console of all time. They already have over 1million pre-orders on the PS3, there launching with far more consoles and launch games than microsoft did with 360, so to say it will completely fail is just utter rubbish.



As for this game, so what if its about 7-8months after 360 version. who cares?? i remember when a certain GTA San Andreas launched on xbox several months after the PS2 version (if not, a full year after at least), yet nobody complained about that. It seems to me whenever Sony do get a piece of good news, Xbox fans try there best to dumb it down. Why? If the PS3 was owned by Microsoft would you complain? Highly doubt it. I think alot of people need to grow up and quit it with all this "Wii FTW" and "PS3/360/Wii sucks" crap. Its pathetic and downright scary to think that these kind of people could have huge responsible jobs yet they come on here to make stupid childish comments about how a certain console is going to "own" all the others. PATHETIC!

And while where on the subject of PS3 "failing", please, provide actual proof as to why it will instead of talking like a 6year old baby

by ILuvGames - 2006-09-28 19:10
» #117

>"Sony's PS3 will sell no matter what. Why? Simple, its a Playstation"



Agreed (although sadly, Sony knows this too).



>"It seems to me whenever Sony do get a piece of good news, Xbox fans try there best to dumb it down. Why? If the PS3 was owned by Microsoft would you complain? Highly doubt it."



True, but it's not so much fans but fanboys (I always make sure I seperate the two :)). XBox fanboys will try their best to 'dumb it down' in the same way PS fanboys try their best to dumb down any good news about the 360 (1080p being the most recent example).



Whenever ANY console gets a piece of good news or bad news, you can be sure that fanboys on BOTH sides will emerge out of the sewer. ;)

by ENFORCER - 2006-09-29 04:27
» PS3 KNOCKED OUT BY XBOX 360

PS3 SUCKS AND YA'LL KNOW IT.

by Raiden - 2006-09-29 06:55
» YES!!

About time PS3 and PSP got some love! This game will kickass, i wanted to get it for the PC but I heard it wasn't as good, but now I can get it!



I hope they will allow gamesaves to be transferred to-and-from psp and ps3 so I can continue my quest on the PSP when i'm on the go and get home to play it on the PS3! WOOOOOOH!!! hell yeah

by Defender - 2006-09-29 08:46
» LOL

100, learn some grammar.



Nada, LOL...fanboyism at its worst.



Xbox fanboys, why are you guys even here?



My two cents. I remembered right before the the PS2 was released and how there were SO many Dreamcast zealots. They talked about how the PS2 had these "mythical" capabilities that were unnecessary and a waste of effort. The worst I've ever seen was a Gamefan magazine, where they talked about how the DC would demolish the PS2 because they had a headstart on the then-next generation market. After two or so years, Sega was saying goodbye to the console market, while the PS2 is still selling decently after its 7th year. With superior technology to its dead competitor.



Yes, it's not all about the hardware, it's the games. But just a few things in mind. What crippled the N64 was the use of media, which was the old school cartridge. What prevented the DC from being competitive was their lack of thinking forward...56k anyone? Does anyone remember the PS2 HDD, Network Adaptor, or how the PS2 had to be remodeled? What about the first clunky XBox Controller (revisions don't count)? Developers can only go so far with what they're given in order to make their games enjoyable.



Sony came into the business as a winner with the PS1 and they did more than what could be possible with it. With that same mentality, they were able to dethrone Nintendo and prevent Sega from having the advantage. Now Microsoft has served the ball into Sony's court. I have no doubt that Sony will overcome and write another page in their legacy.

by GamesFan - 2006-09-29 21:14
» #121

>"I remembered right before the the PS2 was released and how there were SO many Dreamcast zealots. They talked about how the PS2 had these "mythical" capabilities that were unnecessary and a waste of effort."



Well given that I remember that time clearly, I'll give my two cents too.



Sega's problems started LONG before the PS2. It started with the mistakes of the Mega 32x (3D add-on), the terrible Mega CD and then the complicated Saturn. The Dreamcast was developed as a result of the death of the Saturn. It was a final throw of the dice from a company who made huge mistakes in the market, and the DC was not enough to reverse their fortunes.



Yes the PS2 was the final nail in the coffin, but it was Sega who made the coffin and dug the hole to put it in.



But talking of zealots, what about all those for the PS2? You know, the one's who swallowed the hype of Toy Story graphics (whoever the source may be), 66 million polygons per second (therefore PS2 was 25x more powerful than the DC they yelled), the Emotion Engine adding incredible realism and dynamic behaviour to game characters, "jacking into the matrix" for online etc.



For about a year, PS2 fanboys were telling everyone about how the PS2 will blow the DC away because of the unbelieveable specs. But after the PS2's launch, with graphics which fell FAR short of the hype (including the infamous 'jaggies'), and games which did not blow the DC away, it was clear that the PS2 was not the huge leap forward many were expecting. In fact, DC was demonstrating games which looked better than the PS2 for the first year. So after a year of being put down by PS2 fanboys before launch, DC fanboys now laughed at the PS2 and it's fanboys. But of course, we know who had the last laugh. ;)



>"Yes, it's not all about the hardware, it's the games."



Agreed.



>"But just a few things in mind. What crippled the N64 was the use of media, which was the old school cartridge."



Agreed.



>"What prevented the DC from being competitive was their lack of thinking forward...56k anyone?"



Well, not a lack of thinking forward, it was an excellent console which suffered from Sega's earlier mistakes. Also, 56K was the right choice for the console at the time (launched in Japan in 11/1998 remember). If the DC had a 5 year life span, then it's successor would arrive at the end of 2003 at the earliest, just a year after the PS2's Network Adapter! The NA had an ethernet port, but it also had a 56K modem, which Sony insisted was important for gamers at the time.



>"Now Microsoft has served the ball into Sony's court. I have no doubt that Sony will overcome and write another page in their legacy."



I think the majority expect Sony to eventually be market leaders again this gen, but I don't expect they will have the same dominance they had with the Playstation and the PS2. Nintendo today are not the Nintendo of the past, and Microsoft are certainly not Sega. :)



We'll see.

by snoop - 2006-09-29 23:15
» ps3 is better

its a great argument even though no ones played on one here, so they have no basis except all the high res FMVs, anyone remember ps2 pre release at E3

by Me - 2006-09-30 01:50
» Hehe

Vecha should change his name to "Fanboy of antifanboyism"...

by Someone With A Life - 2006-10-07 08:48
» Poster 111

LOL Moron.



360 hasnt released its full potential and the ps3 has? I think that would be hard to do seeing as how your fellow idiot comments put it, the system "isnt even out yet"



God. Why is it that 99% of comment posters are *****ing morons.

by r35 - 2006-10-13 03:29
» n00b

Halo 3 and Halo Wars also oblivion was a launch tittle for x360 in australia... need i say more, lets check the black void that is ps3's launch line up

by r35 - 2006-10-13 03:31
» lol

be quiet sony fanboy :) the only difference will be resoloutions and load times depending on "self" variables meaning they arent remaking the game hence it will not be better or worse ("underpar") now go and sit in your little corner...

by r35 - 2006-10-13 03:34
» leafer

oi mr new york "leafers" that was a really well structured intellectual comment shut the hell up there is PSP, PS3, X360 and PC fans here all complaining because the picture sucks and makes it look bad!

by r35 - 2006-10-13 03:36
» n00b

did the whole Knights Of The Nine Screenshot not work your head over... hello there is no Knights of the nine for xbox360 or pc atm... so this is technically supposed to be ps3... gosh what a freakin moron lol

by r35 - 2006-10-13 03:39
» confucious found a moron

lol of course but that was speculation and wasnt official now it is official lets all through a yay for sony party... they finally got a decent game

by r35 - 2006-10-13 03:42
» lol

you have some very interesting and good points but man you have way to much time on your hands...

um seen bfme 2 on pc and x360 not much difference, oh and i own Oblivion on pc and x360 not much difference either... yeah so that about sums it up and it didnt take the better part of your life reading it did it?

by r35 - 2006-10-13 03:44
» rofl

sniff sniff... i smell sony fanboy

by r35 - 2006-10-13 03:50
» lol hehehe

dude im no single owner or supporter of one console... so hear it from me, your comment is the most true comment i have read ever, it simply depicts how funny sony fanboys really are... they are so competitive and biased, also they are mostly the uneducated ones considering they probably invested in a ps2 hahaha ~ 200mhz... yeah nice acquisition mates! hello xbox ~730mhz now back to oblivion topic... um who cares sony fans you got a BETHESDA game not a MS game so get over it lol... stupid sellouts, im rather enjoying your crash bandicoot and tomb raider on my X360,xbox and gamecube... lol they lost both their big name game characters like sega with sonic... the ironic thing is sony are still around with a console so does that mean they will go the way of the dreamcast.... probably not, but id like to see a sony fan reaction to that (cries in corner) lol peace out 99% asian fan population (sony)

by r35 - 2006-10-13 03:53
» n00b

hang on a minute moron you just called somebody a retard after telling them they suck at life.... ur a big douchebag arent you? bty you didnt even have to insult 360 to let me know your a sony fanboy... your dumb so that would make you one of those idiots who bought a ps2 for full price on release... meaning you would probably do the same for ps3... freakin moron!

by r35 - 2006-10-13 03:57
» stupid stupid n00b

yes i can dispute it because like the ps3 console... nadas price list is all *****ing hypothetical bull-shi.t, who needs a 360 fan? nerds who use it for more than 12 hours a day... thats who... you are a fanboy because you didnt even think about how stupid you sound by agreeing with stupid hypothetical crap, no you leaped blindly to support your fanboyish needs and console... shut up from now on and understand that you are a tool...

by r35 - 2006-10-13 04:03
» dik head???

yes you are a ***** head this is a psp site not ps3... MORON! n00b

by r35 - 2006-10-13 04:06
» lol wtf?

you said stop the fanboy wars but you arent exactly stopping let alone helping no you are igniting the flames of this war like the big sony n00b fanboy that you are and the best point i have read on this page so far was sabe saying that youre all arguing about consoles... lol but i just like flaming people cause i know ill never check this crap again and you will probably read it eventually and be mentally tormented for a week... hahaha kekeke

by r35 - 2006-10-13 04:10
» you are quite the loser arent you?

lol you didnt really get your point across i rather laughed at you... now im a pc person and multiconsole person myself and right now you ps3 n00b fanboys are turning me of the ps3... sucks doesnt it that total n00bs like yourself have to ruin a perfectly good console huh? ... hey Ron "weasley" oliver get a life!!!

by r35 - 2006-10-13 04:14
» hahaha probably none of them

they are probably all redneck hicks with ps2s... and pictures of ps3s on their roof to bat of every night ... oh yeah and Wii for life hahahaha rock on wii fans... you guys are like the neutral candidates that can sweep up sony for ms... hahahaha sucks to be a single console owner without a 1080p tv huh?

by r35 - 2006-10-13 04:17
» hahaha

your funny... you just flamed everyone... yeah multiconsole and hacks rock... got homebrew? how about hard drives and iso's lofl...



"

but seriously tho, of all the system PS3 has to be the worst because its not even out yet" hahahah hence the word wankers? hypothetical nob bashers?

by r35 - 2006-10-13 04:19
» omfg shigeru miyamoto

omfg lol... wii sucks, cmon no it doesnt its better than ps3 at least

by r35 - 2006-10-13 04:22
» hahahahah

that was funny ***** i was rofl for about 5 minutes... wat a *****ing retard lol talk about taking games too seriously

by r35 - 2006-10-13 04:25
» departing message

lol thanks fanboy n00bs for about half an hour of fun flaming... my parting message if you didnt read all my other replys



i dont want a ps3 anymore because you fanboys have all scared me away of joining you!



and ps3

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