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Saying the Wii is the past with "innovative input methods added" is like saying elevators are like stairs but you're in a box and you don't walk. A more correct statement would be the Wii is the past but with a completely revamped and untested-in-the-mainstream way of playing games, so much that it feels like a completely new experience.



As much as I love my PSP and the PSP in general, it is the past, not the DS or Wii. It's the traditional hi tech, hardware upgrade, better processor, better GPU, rehash ideology system. It's a portable games console, it's not anything new, it's just good. Just unfortunately not fantastically new like the DS.

The Future? Please, I believe the only reason the DS is selling better is because of that damn Dog simulator, which was released right around when? Christmas time. Nintendo knows marketing & could market a piece of turd and make it 'cute' & would sell millions.



Other than the usual Mario/Mario related, Metroid, Zelda, FF, or AW, there just isn't really any good releases from third party developers to make me think the DS is better than the PSP imo.



I've said it before if the PSP was around the same price range as the DS, the PSP would be killing them in sales. Everywhere except Japan where everyone there worships Nintendo like a cult.

Thats it!

Next time I see someone having a DS I will smash it against their face,rip their throat out and eat their intestines...Err...Nintendo is pissing me off,thats what I meant

Amazing how something so well-written can be so stupid at the same time.

Well here's the deal. Earlier in the week we learned that K-Mart is getting out of the PSP business. Most of their stores will no longer be carrying PSP products. In some areas, PSP stocks have already been removed from the shelves.



A quick history lesson reveals that K-mart was also the first retailer to dump Dreamcast products.



And now it seems that EB Games/Gamestop has completely lost confidence in the PSP product line as well.



How long will it be before the PSP dies at retail just like the Dreamcast?

It's not the end of the world guys and gals. This is just EB saying hey by the way if you want a DS we take all forms of systems. Would you be upset if they put a GC up there for trade? I don't think so. In fact as stated in an early post there are 2 other Nintendo products up for trade as well. EB isn't saying the PSP is old and should be traded in. There just saying buy these DS's cuz they be the best thing out there right now and you'd be a fool if you didn't get one yourself!

You Guys who say the PSP is better, are blinded by the Wonders of Dark_Alex.



Lets look at the point of view where someone doesn't have a Custom Firmware, doesn't know about Homebrew or anything.



PSP

Excessive Loading times

Ported Games (At Least the Majority)

Players can cheat easily online (Cwcheat)



DS

No loading times

Fun, original, entertaining Games

Harder to cheat you need a Flash cart



Homebrew is the only thing riding my PSP for the next few weeks, if things don't get better I'm doing EB's Ad.



Just look at DS games, Jump Ultimate Stars, Bleach DS 2nd, Mario Kart. Just 3 games that rock out of only God knows how many total games in the Library. The PSP is the future Dreamcast.

that sony wins in both gameplay and graphics when it comes to handhelds....so yes, even though gameplay is ''king,'' this just means that the PSP is better.

but I'd never trade my PSP. Funny this article is posted tonight, cause i was thinking of trading EB some games tomorrow... if they dont rip me off too much, and if there's anything there worth trading for...

the PSP is awesome, but so is the DS. Final Fantasy III is AMAZING!!! :)



if i owned a DS, i would be the first player to accidently burn the touchscreen with a cigarette LOL

Not the majority of the PSP games are ports.

Think that the PSP has no good or original games? Think again.

http://xevon.awardspace.com/thepsphasnogames/



Also, the DS having original games?

Final Fantasy III, Mario, the list can go on and on.



The DS and the PSP are both good portables, and neither are better than the other. They both have a good and bad variety of games, and more.

you're all making way to big a deal out of this. its saying the psp is worth more than the original DS and i own both and personally never play the DS. but i do play the psp every day. it doesnt matter it's just a deal for those who dont want psp anymore and now want a DS.



BTW i agree with the guy who said nintendo cant do anything right the first time. for god sakes. i bought a DS the next wek DS lite gets announced. it wouldnt surprise me at all if a Wii "lite" came out tomorow.

its just a ad.. nothing more. jeez fanboys get over it. DS and PSP are both cool. Who cares...... DUH T_O'

DS LITE, iPhone, PC, PS1, iPod, N64, SNES, NES, gameboy, gameboy Advance, GPS, Sega Genesis, Everything Else Trade the Crap, Play the Future PSP(with 3.10oe-A')

GHOST RIDER AND MONSTER HUNTER, thank you for reading was a pleasure, DS has good game and yes it is an innovation, but I mean it's only good sometimes, PSP you can use it all the time, you get bored with a game you can listen to music, watch a video, play another system, DS is what the WII also is, a game system nothing more, PS3 loses on the media department cause most of those systems are mor for gaming than anything else, ppl usually already have media centers and stuff like that.

The PSP has much going for it that isn't gaming. And at the very end of your statement, you bring up all the stuff that comes from homebrew. Which the gentlemen above stated PSP San Homebrew.



Though loading time is due to higher end graphics, levels, scenery. The purpose of a handheld gaming system is for pick up and go fun. While you can label the DS games as simplisic games, they are addictive and serve the purpose of picking up and playing. They were not designed to be used for a dedicated amount of gaming, that is what a console is for.



Why is it that so many people bring up Nintendogs? This always amazes me that this one game is immediately brought up and used to describe the whole lineup. Seriously, if you want a taste of real innovation with the stylus, get Trauma Center. That game will rape you. Anyone who plays that cannot honestly admit that it was a easy game.



The DS definetly has load times, though not many, it is a lie to say no loading times. But this is the benefit of flash memory over disc reading. Obviously this isn't the way to go in consoles, which Nintendo found out with the N64, but it is the way to go in handhelds. I just wish Nintendo went for more robust flash, then you could have a 2 gig flash cartridge.



Both systems are plagued with ports, there is no denying that. But the DS eventually got through that (for the most part), and with the different control style, forces developers to think out of the box.



And for Sony's defense, I absolutely love the control scheme they have going. I love the DS mind you, but I love the sense of a dual shock arrangement. Guilty Gear alone keeps my PSP in use.



The PSP has a growing library that is fantastic. Not for MGS or any other main title that people always moan about, honestly people, ***** MGS ok? You all need to look at Guilty Gear and DJ Max. That ***** is fantastic.



For the DS, stop this misconception of little kids, girls, dogs, simplistic games or overly cute. For ***** sakes people, no one here plays DS games or even knows what games are out when they make these bashings. Trauma Center, Lunar Knights, and hell even Daigasso Band Bros (though ya got to import). For the DS guys, stop *****ing saying Mario, Zelda, Metroid. I know, you know, the first party stuff is fantastic, but if you want ot gain some creditbility, play some goddamn 3rd party games. Your giving us a bad name.



That's it. I understand, the PSP gt a bad rap. But Sony didn't help it's case early on. You can't deny that the DS is dominating the market, and EB games only wants to capitalize. End of story.

I have to admit after I read this I laughed........then was shocked.....then laughed some more.

Thats right, you have to pay $40 more to trade the psp than the ds anyway. this article is stoopid

I am amazed at the idiocy that has been here, of course they want you to trade in your PSP, they can sell it for much more then a use DS, and get more profit...



Haha, but so many ramapnt PSP fanboys here.. I have a PSP 3.10OE-A', and a DS+M3Simply, and I play them both about equaly, well, DS more for the moment, becasue I Just got the M3Simply...

WTF THE DS AIN'T GOIN ANYWHERE, UNLIKE THE PSP. WE ACTUALLY GET UPDATES THAT ADD FUNCTIONALITY TO THE PSP. SO HOW IS THE DS THE FUTURE?!?!?

i love my psp

I have to agree too that both consoles have their goods and bad. I play both my DS and PSP alternatly. I like the PS1 emu on the PSP and the games on the DS even though are ports are still fun to play.

"Why is it that so many people bring up Nintendogs? This always amazes me that this one game is immediately brought up and used to describe the whole lineup. Seriously, if you want a taste of real innovation with the stylus, get Trauma Center. That game will rape you. Anyone who plays that cannot honestly admit that it was a easy game."



trauma center got ported to the wii recently.

whats funny is that k-mart contributed to the dreamcasts death. They stole 25 million from sega that they never paid back.

It's better to not say anything at all then admit you care what others think by posting a response telling everyone you don't care.



In other news, shut up. But I guess you got me with that "go ***** yourself" comment because you're Mr. Billy BadA.s.s.

Not sure how old that ad is, or what country it is from (these things should be checked on before being added to the news posts) but EB/GS has not paid that much for a PSP in a LONG time. Current trade value for a PSP is $60 (US) and they are currently running a promo for an extra $20 (US) bringing it to $80 (US). Do your homework people.

Okay I'll attempt to quickly cover all the bases of your comment.



Whether the PSP has homebrew or not, there are plenty of other features besides gaming. Homebrew just makes it that much better to be able to emulate anything. If the DS had homebrew, it would expand that handheld as well, but it doesn't, so oh well.



The loading times... who cares that badly. Honestly.



And instead of brining up Nintendogs, I will summarize DS's top selling titles, (Yes Nintendogs) But everything else deals with Mario, or Yoshi. I mean come on, how far can Mario seriously take you? What's that one game that consists of mini-Marios? You're really reaching for that "innovative gameplay" with the 20+ Mario/Luigi/Yoshi games.



As for the libraries (Which I will also tie in with what you said about the DS's audiance) you said, "***** MGS." Yes, ***** Metal Gear Solid, the game that has sold how many copies? You just want to say, "No." Haha, that's just a horrible statement on your part. But nice try. What are you going to say next? "***** Grand Theft Auto?" Haha. You talk about misconception? Sorry, but when the top 10 selling games exclusively for the DS deal with Mario and Nintendogs, it's kind of hard to think otherwise.



So since you were so blind about many things, I'll end it with an ***** note saying, have fun with your puppy power simulator, I'll play my PSP, PSX, SNES, NES, GENESIS, GBC, GBA, GEO, N64, Hell you can even put Windows 95 on the PSP. So just suck it buddy, nobody is buying your BS.

Clearly there are two people in the gaming world, gamers and fanboys. I dont care if the PSP is dying, aslong as I can play Final Fantasy, MGS, and DJ Max, I dont give a *****. The DS kiddy? Sure, but atleast I can play FF3, Hotel Dusk, and all that First Party Goodness. So say the DS is kiddy, say the PSP doesnt think of gaming. Just play games with them. Thats what they were intended for, and thats what it does.

Yeah, I mean if you look at the ad, it is obvious which of the three they want the most. The PSP has a better used value than any other handheld on the market, and right now they are in high demand. I have heard a couple of people telling me that they cannot find a used PSP in the cities they are living in. Sony would be smart to lower the price for new PSPs -- they would sell in the blink of an eye!

can you see the psp coming back from this?



Anyway I don't care - I'm still going to keep my psp with me all the time and homebrew is going to keep on being put out for us die harders! But this advert IS the end - go kid yourself...

has anyone tried to buy a used psp latly... eb cant keep them on the shelves. I went back every other afternoon for 2 weeks and thay were allways out. EB is getting desperiate because people would rather buy used psp's then new ds's. as for the ds outselling the psp of course they are, the ds is ment for children which is a much bigger audiance. Alot more kids play video games then teens and adults combined. To those who say that the ds is better, go play NFS on the ds compaired to the psp, it's sad how much better the PSP is.

Just go to metacritic.com and compare how many GREEN titles ( great game ) PSP and how much DS have. You'll see that PSP WON!!!. So STFU!

Both the DS and the PSP are fun. PSP = Great graphics, more features, easier to hack

DS = Mid-level graphics, entertaining games, harder to hack

Its all personal preference, I go on the DS's side, but im not saying that the PSP is bad. I use them both equally! Stop taking sides....

Gotta love the PSP fanboys. Get a grip.

I own a DS and a PSP. My PSP is relegated to emulation due to its horrendous loading times and bog standard ports of PS2 games.

The DS is outselling the PSP because it is, plain and simple, MORE POPULAR and has better games and is more innovative.



"Oooh look I can watch video and listen to music on my PSP"

"Ohh look I can do all that on an Ipod."

The thing is,every time I go to a game store,i see a kid asking his mom for a psp,but she says no because its "expensive" and hes too young for it...but a crappy pixel system "DS" suits her well....I hate kids -_-;

the owner of ebgames or other video games store see the DS has a much better system cuz of the well sell. those people don't know anything about games or systems, they are only look at the money they are winning. i own a PSP and i love it. i play the DS and i didn't like the screen quality at all. but when customer are looking cheaper system to buy. if sony want to sell more PS3 and PSP they have to lower there price. most people (like me) don't like to buy a $700 machine when in a few year is going to be cheaper and right now the 360 has a better power for half the price.



PS. nintendo WII is gay

Nobody likes platformers? that *****ing news to the millions of people that buy them Im sure.

Nintendogs was not released around Christmas... it was released in mid-August in the US and April in Japan.



Also, the DS is selling well because it has an abundance of great games. I know, I own one as well as a PSP. It's another great Nintendo handheld. PSP is a good portable, too, but it suffers from an identity crisis- what is it, a movie player? an mp3 player? a portable game player? It's just spread too thin.

WTF!?? Is EB Games TRYING to alienate PSP users? I think they've succeeded. They just lost my business PERMANENTLY. PSP already gets enough bad PR without stupid businesses pulling s**t like this to try to make a few extra bucks. What a bunch of pricks.

The DS is crap. I mean really CRAP. I bought one for my parents with that Brain Trainer thing because apparently it works, and the touchscreen w/stylus interface is much easier to use in that particular app (its not really a game now is it?)



In terms of games, I really don't think I'll be buying any. Seriously, the majority of games are laughably poor. I don't understand why everyone raves about so called 'fun, original, innovative games'. The DS is just as much of a gimmick as the Wii. The Wii is definitely fun to play, but I dont think it'll last. The DS was so ugly and crap that Nintendo had to redo it.



Besides, with the new Daedelus release, us PSP owners can play the original Mario 64 and not a crap port on a crap console.



The next thing I'll get for my parent's DS will be Dr. Kawashima's Brain Trainer II (You just know Nintendo are gonna rinse and re-use the idea...)

CoolGuy, I thought your post was a good-read without a.s.shole factor Jake's had, so I'll just try to bring back out some points.



If the Nintendo DS does indeed have homebrew, then that makes it worse considering that's what so many DS people fall back on. "The PSP is nothing without homebrew." It's just not our fault your handheld doesn't carry not nearly as many programs and apps ours does.



About the loading times, I'm just saying in general, if you're really that fed up with loading times, then that is quite a long shot. You can't wait 20-30 seconds before your game starts? Obviously the PSP's a graphical powerhouse, it's usually worth the wait. Then again, I'm obviously more of a graphics guy then say (Yes hate to bring him back up) but Mario. Because if I wanted no loading times, I'd use the SNES emulator.



And innovative gameplay. Some games are innovative, truthfully they are. Like Brain Age, it's not way out there but the fact of using the stylist to write down your answers and whatnot is fun. Other games as I recall consists of circling a pokemon with the pen to capture it. That's really not that clever. Or the Mario game where you just rotate the gun, once again, you can easily do those things with the direction pad, but since it's with a stylist, everyone thinks it's "innovative."



As for the rating system, that's just a who cares thing, post your comment to get your point across, not to get stars that don't mean anything.



And finally you have to care a little bit about this since you were willing to write that. (About agreeing with the people about 'shut up and play.') I think it's fun to debate and whatnot.

Yeah, 'lol'. Did we forget that the games that were ported were ranked among the best top 10 RPGs of all time?



Do your research, idiot.

First

Well theres a difference between SEEMS more fun and IS more fun, and as an owner of both platforms I'm sorry to admit that DS IS more fun

New does not mean better. The PSP is better in terms of how much you can do with it. I mean even without homebrew you can play music, watch videos, view pictures(well, not well used, but you can), and hombrew greatly increases what you can do with it. What's the big difference between the DS lite and the DS? Oh, it's more compact and the screen is brighter, wow, now if it was increase in features like you can put your own media and play it on there without buying an extra cartride for some media stuff like the PSP can as it comes with a MS(not very big, 32MB but nevertheless it comes with it). Nintendo does it's same scheme everytime. First with the gameboy, and oh look, here comes gameboy color. Then the gameboy advance, oh look, here comes gameboy advance SP. And now with the DS and here comes DS lite, so predictable. Personally, unless you absolutely hate the PSP, you're stupid if you trade in a PSP for a lite.

but dats why u get an ipod also

I find it very amusing how much people spring to defend their video game consoles. The PSP is great for the internet, media, and homebrew side. DS is fun for the innovative screen. The PSP is more of what Sony does: Imitation as opposed to innovation. Take which you like. I personally own a PSP because of the browser and a few good homebrew apps.



P.S. Just remember, graphics aren't everything. If I had to choose between graphics and gameplay: I'd definately choose gameplay. I'll take Goldeneye 007 or Halo Combat Evolved over most shooters out today.

OPINION≠FACT



NOW SHUT UP

anyone who thinks the ds is more fun is *****ing retarded. i have both the ds and the psp, and i have no *****ing clue where my ds is. nintendo releases crap, they just make it affordable to poor people, which is why they get so many sales.

the ds lite is EXACTLY the same thing as the ds. how, then, can it be the future of gaming? all they did was take an old system and give it a shiny new coat. i swear, nintendo fanboys would buy another gamecube if nintendo gave it a new design and called it "SYSTEM X". whatever. sure sony doesnt have much going for the psp, but who cares? its the ultimate machine in that its a miniature media center worthy of being called a computer. just the fact that the psp can do almost anything is good enough for me. whats that? the ds? oh, yea. it can play touchy feely games at $30 a piece, just like every one of its handheld predecessors. and nintendo's supposed to be the one bringing something new to the table?

ds is easier to homebrew no updates alls u need is a flash card

i find it pretty amazing about the people in qj (not all but most). usually you guys would bash sony for no particular reason (including the staffs of qj), but now look, so many people stood up for the psp lol

"PSP owns DS Lite in every way" + opinion

"Better Games" + opinion

"Better Homebrew" + ...opinion

"dont need to buy gay access key or special flash to play backups" + while a true statement, even this fact is polluted with your jaded opinions.



Most of you are dissing DS's by merely spewing out your personal opinions of it, likely due to the fact that many own solely a PSP, not a DS as well. I cannot speak for everyone who owns both handhelds, but they are useful in different ways.



Neither have 'better' games... there is not way to measure this. It isn't fact with an opinion sprinkled over the top, it is and opinion in and of itself. It's like saying Sonic IS better than Mario... you just can't compare them; they are great in their own ways.



The PSP does have better homebrews (my opinion as well), due to the fact that the DS barely has any at all.



The 'gay access key's and 'special flash cards' are made to prevent hackers (most everybody on this site) from working their magic on the DS. Why should a product be labeled as inferior simply because the company has its own assets to place before the criminal intentions of consumer?



mp3 and vids... I understand the PSP's multitasking capabilites, but the exclusion of that on the DS doesn't make it automatically bad. I don't see the PSP with a touch screen, easy to use WiFi (excluding friend codes), and simple, understandable/masterable controls.



To end this 'article', I say each handheld is great in its own respect, they are... wonderful... and entirely uncomparable. You cannot make generalizations about the DS (not BS) based on your own opinions. Even if you do own both, and presume to compare them, then arive at the conclusion that the PSP is better... its still an opinion.



I guess my reason for writing this is... this:

Opinions are great, share them, that's what forums are for. But by saying "DS+BS", you are surpassing simple opinion, and have begun to take your opinions and shove them down the average forum readers throat.



the kicker + all this and more is my... opinion.

DS isnt enough, its features lack big time. it is easier to homebrew but the hardware is just behind in time.

What the hell is eb games thinking the psp is a sh*tload better than the ds lite. OOooooooooooooo the damn ds lite is just a ds retards. I would never trade my psp 4 a ds lite ever due to the fact that the ds lite is obsolete compared to the psp. THe psp has so much more functionality than the ds. for example the psp has music player, video player, psone games both legal and homebrewed, homebrewed games, flash player 6, much more customizable, much more homebrew apps, free internet browser,wireles s play (adhoc, infastructure), rss, locationfree player, and more to come. What does the ds have OOoooooooo a brighter screen, more gamy games, a stylus that gets shoved in to the ds's side thats about it. do EBgames please take down this stupid sign b/c the ds is worthless compared to the psp.

i have both a psp and ds lite. to tell you the truth my ds lite is a paper weight.. no joke..

DS + Dumb *****

true, when i compared ma boyfrienz ds lite to ma psp, ofcourse ma psp won, lolz. the ds i guess appeals to a more younger audience, or slow people, like ma boyfriend, (j.p hun) and the psp is for us cool katz, hehehee

listen "LOL" u loser, if the ds is queen, or watever u wanna call it, i guess the psp is Emperor.



yo i commented on this story like 3 tymes, why cant people just admit the psp is better.

As far as I can see, the PSP is doing quite well. Not as well if you compared it to DS sales. When I walk into most GameStop/EB I sense some bias over Nintendo by the associates working there. But if you walk into Best Buy or Circuit City they all say all platforms are great. PSP is a great system with more great games coming but you wouldn't hear that at GameStop. The reason I think this is happening is because many of the associates who work at these stores are gamer growing up in the "Nintendo" age. I myself was a Nintendo fan and don't want to see them go away but Microsoft and Sony just make better new games. Nintendo stays and reinvents old classic and sell them as New. Shame on the associates at Gamestop and corporate for not picking up on this because there are legions of PS supporters and they are only hurting themselves sales wise. No wonder associates are complaining about hours.

We all know that it's the DS, not the PSP that is truly dead. In fact, the DS is older than the PSP. I am proud to tell everyone here that I bought a DS the first week it came out, and than sold it a month later to pre-order a PSP. I got my PSP March 25, 2005, the DAY it came out...I STILL have my PSP. Listen to me you Dumb #@!$s, simply because they slapped a fresh coat of paint on the DS, DOES NOT mean that it's new. All the DS lite is is a Outdated peice of crap w/ a new SHELL. You DS fanboys are so dumb, you pay for the same system you have because Nintendo makes the older version seem obsolete. It's the same mentality w/ Appl's Ipod. Every year, the same retards buy the new model because it's "IN", and all you sheep are forking over your hard-earned cash (or your mommies) to these companies for the product you already have..and you guys flame Sony for being "Corperate and only wanting money, not being about the consumer"..hah! I laugh in your faces for being one of the nameless sheep, following fads. You all are just a statistic to Nintendo..Only a number.

Hey guys. I work at EB and Im *****in appauled at this *****. If it comes up in my store ill rip it down. As for EB employees being nintendo biased, in my store its true, except for me n my friend. The guys bash the psp in ignorance because they have no *****ing idea what it can really do. If anybody in my store asks my opinion on whether to get a psp or ds i ask them if the person theyre getting it for is under 10 and if it is ill refer them to nintendo, if not psp all the way. DS is garbage. Wii is garbage. Im not saying I wouldnt take em for free or play em at a friends house but its lacking.

Actually scratch that. You guys trade in your psps and forget your gig cards n there or just give em away and ive got a collection goin, not like you can trade em for anythin anyway. . Plus we just sell the psp's back to you. Its this thing called the circle of life at eb's. We sell new games. You guys get bored bring em back. We get you a discount card and a magazine subscription so you come back n trade more stuff in and buy used games. In the magazine you see new games so you guys will come and preorder them. Then you come back and buy new games. If you come to our stores alot were helping you out yknow. Were the only places that sell used games like what anyway. Were not evil people tryin to screw you over. Sometimes I hook people up if I like em.