New bill in Congress to put games with bestiality, suicide, sodomy, etc. under lock and key; US$ 1000 fine for violators |
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Ah yes. It's another one of those nasty bills being tossed around in Congress. This new one from New York is taking the few recent bills into a whole new level.Remember when assemblyman Keith L.T. Wright (quite possibly, no affinity to Phoenix Wright) proposed to have kids protected from racist games and its ilk. And before that, representative Joe Baca introduced another bill which wanted those obtrusive warning labels on video game boxes.
Via GamePolitics, we now hear that assemblyman Brian Kolb steps into the scene, this time with a new bill, A2837. The objective of this bill is pretty much the same: to protect minors from mature titles. But more specifically, that these games should come with a warning label that has the following:
18+ WARNING, SALE OR RENTAL TO ADULTS ONLY. MAY CONTAIN EXPLICIT DEPICTIONS DESCRIPTIVE OF OR ADVOCATING ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING:
- COMMISSION OF A VIOLENT CRIME
- SUICIDE
- SODOMY
- RAPE
- INCEST
- BESTIALITY
- VIOLENT RACISM
- RELIGIOUS VIOLENCE
- SADO-MASOCHISM
- SEXUAL ASSAULT
- SEXUAL ACTIVITY
- MURDER
- MORBID VIOLENCE
- ILLEGAL USE OF DRUGS OR ALCOHOL
PARENTAL ADVISORY.
That's very specific. And a huge list too! What's to become of box artists - are they to be laid off now? And that's not the end of it either.
Kolb's bill also proposes that these types of games are to be kept under surveillance in an "inaccessible by the general public" and seemignly under lock and key, "in a sealed and locked container." Any violators of this new rule (once it gets approved) may be subject to a fine of around US$ 1000, and may be put on the record for civil and criminal offenses.
So. Does Viva Pinata count under bestiality? Does Persona 3 count for suicide?
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Saying to get them banned.
I understand that children should be protected from such things.
An argument has always been "it's on the parents" but often times the child begs for the game and will show sadness without it. And parents usually just want their child to be happy.
when i begged for something that was obviously not appropriate for me, the only sadness that i had was from the pain after getting the belt. then i understood on an adult level that my parents REALLY dont want me to have that and i should stop asking. how f-in hard is that to comprehend, nothin worse than a child who has total control over their parent.
Videogames like Manhunt are simply inappropriate for blacks. Does anyone else agree? If you agree that video games are inappropriate for children, why not blacks?
It's getting annoying with this, man i remember how u didnt need ID to buy rated M stuff, like vice city, in commercialized stores. So therefore i didnt buy from stores like gamestop, instead I went to private ones, taht didn't charge tax. Now that i'm 18 i could care less but feel bad for the next kids.
This is not a bad bill compared to the other ones, this is just making sure minors don't get subjected to violence and other offensive material found in games targeted for mature gamers, but isn't that what the rating systems do?
Yeah it looks like the ratings are a little vague sometimes but maybe only in the US (ESRB), however in the EU the PEGI rating system is more specific, on the game boxes you have the age and icons that specify the content of the game and it covers some of the items on that list, as for the CERO in Japan i don't know much about it but i think it is the most flexible of the rating systems (I'm not really sure about this one).
if your kid shown sadness over beer or porn, the parents are going to make the child happy by giving the stuff to the them. It is ridiculious that the government has to tell me how to raise my children. All a form of communism and censorship.
...it's a bit stupid, but for us gamers, who know what we want, when we're getting it, and how good it is, it's not affecting us...
Personally, when a game comes out, which I'll know beforehand since I'd be waiting for it, I check if it's good online, check Wikipedia for its overall reception, check youtube gameplay vids, then buy it.
This only affects window shoppers really, and are they going to even notice?
True its dumb, but why do we care, we know what we're buying anyways.
I'm 17 and generally have no problem with rape and sodomy scenes, but its not something I enjoy watching. Makes me feel a little uneasy. After reading online about specific scenes in Manhunt 2 I decided not to play it, a little *too* graphic for me. Rockstar was asking for trouble with that game
specific warnings for stuff like that is fine, but I think the general "violence/extreme violence, gore, drug/alcohol use" suffices for
# COMMISSION OF A VIOLENT CRIME
# SUICIDE
# VIOLENT RACISM
# RELIGIOUS VIOLENCE
# SADO-MASOCHISM
# SEXUAL ASSAULT
# SEXUAL ACTIVITY
# MURDER
# MORBID VIOLENCE
# ILLEGAL USE OF DRUGS OR ALCOHOL
No need for all of that
I honestly believe that even if this bill is passed it won't make a difference. Parents are still gonna get the games their children want just to see that smile on their face. I think that the ESRB details such as "Blood and Gore" or "Violence" may not be too specific but it provides enough information for a person/parent to depict whether or not the game is suitable or appropriate for a certain age
hard to argue with that
That's fine.. And make sure all cell phones have a big "MAY CAUSE CANCER" warning and such. Anyway, this is a retarded bill.. A responsible parent shouldn't buy something they don't understand for their kid. If a kid asks for a game named "Manhunt" or "Grand Theft Auto" for example, a parent should use common sense.. A game named "Halo" .. they should think "What is this Halo?" and look at the game box.
wtf are you talking about? this has nothing to do with race and there is such a thing as black KIDS you retard. i'm black ffs. if anything its inappropriate for whites because of the racist remarks characters say. then you got more little white kids being racist.
I disagree with him entirely though, what he was saying is if we're going to discriminate against children why don't we descriminate on race. Which is a load of *****. Children need a childhood. I gave you a smiley Foolmonkey and justin a frown. :)
and while we're at it, lets take it back years ago into segregation.
it's never going to happen and times have changed since then.
this is the dumbest racist comment i've ever read.
I can commit suicide in just about any game, from Super Mario to Halo, perhaps they need to change that to scripted suicide, even then that's a bit silly. The Koopa Troopers in Mario frequently are scripted to walk straight off a cliff. Realistic depiction of suicide, that could cover it?
They should also only list what the game has in it, otherwise these stickers will become a false alarm and quickly turn into Homer's "Everything is OK alarm" ie it only turns off when there's a problem.
If they just went well this game could have any of the following in it from stealing candy from a baby to dropping an a bomb on hiroshima, no one is going to pay any attention to the warning.
There sure is! Just look at the schools in your area. Are they performing well? In the old days (Before all this gangsta and rap garbage) Schools had a higher rate of graduation, better overall grades, and less discrimination. I agree with Justin on this one, in principle, so I give him a smiley! Oh, and it's fun to be racist! (Kinda, but not really!)
What are YOU playing? Please, please, tell me. I want to see what everyone is complaining about because I've never seen rape Or sodomy in any of the games I have played. Do you by chance import?
Wow, I been on a Zelda spree the last few days, and OMG, there's plenty of murders there. And even if you skip by all the killing the knights and such, there's them killing the priest in LTTP. WAIT! OMG, priests are religious, that's religious violence too!
just create laws that enforce the existing ratings... it works for movies, it will work for games.
no need to go and add more warnings to the cover. doing so would only make more work for the industry, and it wouldn't accomplish anything...
already is segregation look at bet and in canada some people want black only schools and i think they're black
There went all of my favorite games...
Guess I'll have to wait a few more months then I can buy them myself...
This is so stupid. It'll probably be turned down like the rest of them.
What are they thinking??? Why are they always targeting Games when there are Movies that affects the population the same way... Yes, Games may give Interactivity, but, in The end... It's all the same... Only "dumb" guys will argue about the fact that some people are who commit crimes linked to Games are naturally disturbed... not Disturbed by these games... 1st and foremost, A man in a sane state of mind can recognize reality from fantasy... and 2nd... Games do not promote violence... It's the society that does!... 3rd, crimes linked to Games? well, what a nice excuse... How about y'all Politicians focus on the economy and find a way to recover from the recession... Rather than argue about something trivial just to have something to argue about... And just to get publicity...
* COMMISSION OF A VIOLENT CRIME
* SUICIDE
* SODOMY
* RAPE
* INCEST
* BESTIALITY
* VIOLENT RACISM
* RELIGIOUS VIOLENCE
* SADO-MASOCHISM
* SEXUAL ASSAULT
* SEXUAL ACTIVITY
* MURDER
* MORBID VIOLENCE
* ILLEGAL USE OF DRUGS OR ALCOHOL
Or as we like to call it "Another day in NY"...
United Socialist America.
Your post is entirely racist. You just blamed blacks for ruining everything. Also, there was NOT less discrimination in the old days. We're talking 300 years of it. I guess you don't realize that there are rappers of ALL races not just black. GTFO and go back to school if you aren't already in it. If you're already in it, lrn2lrn.
why does it have to be video game scenes only? i have seen plenty of movies with rape and sodomy scenes, and i felt uncomfortable during those scenes.
i am also not aware of any game with rape/sodomy scenes but if someone does make one i would like a warning, because i dont want to see it
i have seen the clips of manhunt 2, all the extremely violent scenes (watched them to see what the hubbub was about), and its just downright creepy. any game that violent, with the violence passing thru the realm of "fun" and into the realm of psychopathic and way too real, should have descriptors on the box
that manhunt and rockstar in general are the cause of all this. IMO rockstar should be ashamed of manhunt 2, that game is a tasteless disgrace and brought a huge wave of ***** crashing into the fan for the video game industry
Conspiracy Theorists.
Some of the funniest people in the world.
Do you by chance read The Sun?
Unfortunately there are plenty of bad parents out there who should be allowed children and will buy their kids 18 films / 18 game / rap music / stuff their kids with processed foods.
Theres no other alternative, its not like you can prosecute parent for making their kids fat, or buying them pron.
This bill will probably never be passed. Murder is on that list, is that all it takes to be placed under this rule? How many games do you know of that involve murder?
That would put things as mild as the computerized version of Milton Bradley's family board game "Clue" in a locked box behind the counter. It would crash the video games industry. Congress isn't that stupid.
From what i've seen in my lifetime i'd have to disagree.
You're right!! Mario has kidnapping and weapons (you can burn enemies with a fireball), World of Warcraft you get rewarded for killing other players, The Sims has people doing nasty stuff like peeing AND you can kill them in almost any way.. Take us back to 8-bit plzz. Oh, yeah, make sure they throw these warnings on R movies, I want DETAILS. And when you sign up for the military, I want great detail on everythinggg.
Politic like to exaggerate their measures. It is fine to put parental advisory labels on some games, but locking them away? that's utterly ridiculous.
why the hell did you have to bring race into this? And why are you so quick to single out blacks? I thought after Obama was elected, that this racism crap was supposed to be over. I guess not.
I agree with sqrl175 I got my A$$ tore up when I was little and I am glad my dad did that. It has made me a responsible 36yr old adult..
I don't care what your responses hold, as long as you understand that education is down the tube, and I stated the reason. You did not deny my reasoning and for that I thank you. White trash is also a problem, but it is the offspring of rappers and how 'gangster' they are. The worst we used to have were guys in thick leather jackets with over-jelled hair going "Ayyyyyyyyyyyyyy yyyy!" all the time. Racist or not, truth + truth. Entirely off-topic. End.
How is that list, printed in its entirety on any box that has ANY of the content listed, going to 'help' any parent? --How many games have "killing" in them? In Resistance2, you "kill" Chimera; in World At War, you kill Nazis; in Assassin's Creed, you kill. .....But, does this qualify any of these 3 games to be on the same list that includes "rape, incest, sodomy, sexual assault, etc"? --I don't think so. If I were a parent, I might be perfectly fine with my kid "killing" 100% fictional Chimera. I would not be so fine if the game included a scene with someone getting raped. ....The proposed list would then be 100% meaningless to me, in attempting to distinguish the true filth from the acceptable violence. And, if it has no value, why add another piece of governmental oversight? (Because, this obviously doesn't just mean that a label miraculously starts appearing on games: no, our taxpayer dollars will go to creating the committee which review ALL the games and then approves or disapproves of the label being applied or not to any game. ---No thanks; I'm fine with the ESRB spending its OWN money to do that.)
when parents didnt try to reason with their kids but beat them.
Ahh im so happy my parents beat me, wasnt somethign id say when i was small but you udnerstand when you get older. sad thing im only 19
So by definition, you're saying kids can kill somebody because they don't like them?
Obviously not, so don't say something is relevant to something else when it has no relevancy whatsoever.
Also: Kids SHOULD be protected, but a locked box away from the public? A little overboard I think.
I'm not trying to be racist, what I'm trying to say is, if your going to discriminate against one group of people, what's keeping you from discriminating against another. There has been no proven research done that says video games actually harm either children or blacks. So, if you believe that video games are inappropriate for children, why not blacks?