Mistwalker finishing up new project |
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We haven't heard any big announcements from Mistwalker recently, so this should come as good news for Hironobu Sakaguchi fans. Apparently they're heading into the "finishing" stage for a mysterious new project.
This comes from the following blog post by Sakaguchi on the official Mistwalker site:
Am I an "idle man", I wonder? (^^;
Well, I am just trying to pastimeÂ…
I am working hard on a new project.
Now we are being rushed into the “finishing” stage.
No matter what, I will make it really good....
No idea if that "finishing" stage pertains to the actual completion of the project or simply a milestone, but hopefully Mistwalker dispels some of the haze around this particular project soon. I'd settle for target platforms or heck, even just a title!
Via NeoGAF
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what consoles is mistwalker gonna be for?
obviously 360 since Mistwalker is financially backed by MS
THey are backed by MS (initially anyways)... but really... all they've done is blue dragon and lost odyssey... both of which were sub par games. So I really don't care what they're working on.
Blue Dragon and Lost Odeyssey are considered two of the best RPGs this generation. What were you smoking?
Don't you know that you can't praise 360 games on this website? Geez...
Do you seriously consider Silver-Tiger's comment 360 games praising? A game being good has nothing to do with the platform, and if someone says a game is good then it definitely doesn't mean the person is praising the platform the game's for. The fact that you posted something like that simply makes your jealousy clear to everyone. If you don't like Mistwalker's games it's your problem, you don't have to start a console war about it. Besides, Lost Odyssey is an awesome game. I don't know about Blue Dragon since I only ever tried the demo but Lost Odyssey is great. And about what you said, if I say Metal Gear Solid 4 is one of the best games ever (which it is), am I praising PS3? A console I do not even own?
of course
Lol, i was being sarcastic.
I too love Lost Odyssey, though one cannot deny that the majority of the people who visit this website are sony fanboys.
how'd this turn into "fanboys!! grr" ???
If you honestly believe that BD and LO are the top of the RPG pile this gen... you're sadly mistaken.
Hell, personal feelings of these titles aside, look merely to a site like metacritic where they both have average review scores of mid-high seventies..... which in the world of scores + mediocre. Or, to satisfy your retardedness, Just above mediocre.
@Hush
Oh please, get over yourself. The "average" reviews" had nothing to do with how "good" the games were, and more to do with the "technical" flaws in both games. If you had bothered to read the reviews instead of looking at game rankings or something, youd know this.
Blue Dragon was rated down, because 1) it was a classic JRPG, something not everyone lieks off the bat. In fact most JRPGs outside FF and DQ get 7s and 8s.. 2) the slow down and frame rate losses when you do super hyper spells, and abilities.
And let me fill you in on something about LO. ALL copies reviewed were an unfinished disc. If you read every review they complain of 1 min long load times, and HUGE frame rate drops during spells. If you actually played the retail copy youd know that there were no longer loooong load times, and the frame rate problem was fixed. And in what world is an average score of 7's and 8's out of a 10 "sub par"???? sup bar would be a 5. A 5 out of 10 is average. a 7 or an 8 is above average.
And like it or not, they ARE considered 2 of the best RPGS so far THIS generation. (360 and PS3)
That is so true.
okay, if ou think both games suck, fine. Name me other RPGs of this gen that are better.
To like these games has nothing to do with consoles. In fact, I'm pro-PS3, but that doesn't mean I bash anything related to 360. THAT is just stupid. And why the F*ck did you rated Taigons comment down? He's completely right.
@ hush404: you are an example of an completely brainless PS3 fanboy. I thought only 360 fanboys can be THAT stuoid but I guess i was wrong.
Taking Metacritic seriously is fail.
Lair still has a score 53, yet it deserves much more, because the controls were fixed with an patch. The game is great. fantastic graphics, awesome sound and wonderful story. best 15 bucks of my life.
Metacritic totally forgets the advantages of the digital age. you can UPDATE your website, for example fix wrong metacritics for patched games.
You're a great example of someone who hides behind the "Oh, you're a fanboy, thus your opinion means nothing to me" retard.
My post has nothing to do with either side's games or fighting over who's better... or any of that BS. You simply label me a "PS3 fanboy" because I disagree with the statement "these two are the best RPGs of this generation" and they just so happen to be 360 games.
Replying to your first part, score wise (I see you have a problem with scores... but it just goes back to what I was talking about before) I can list a number of other RPGs that have scored higher:
360- Elderscrolls IV Oblivion: 94
306- Fallout 3: 93
360- Mass Effect: 91
PS3- Demon Souls: 89
360- Fable 2: 89
PS3- Valkyria Chronicles: 86
Wii- SuperPaper Mario: 85
Wii- Rune factory Frontier: 80
PS3- Eternal Sonata: 80
Wii- Muramasa: The Demon Blade: 80
and I didn't even include any game on par with the 2 games in question (of mid-hig 70's scores)
@Ninjiz - Bull. You can't look at the good reviews and dismiss the bad ones! Also, we're talking about the scores... why thow "Oh this game is better cuz this was fixed... and excuse this and excuse that".
In my opinion, these titles aren't the best you can find this generation, based on review scores (whether you agree with review scores or not should not be the issue) and there is proof (again based on review scores) that there ARE better RPGs on the scene.
u BotH wIn dA INtaRnetZ.
seriously though, stop whining about it. one likes it, the other doesn't. full stop. game over.
...And here we once again get to the subject of blindly trusting the scores the games have received. Those scores are determined by single persons, and what really should matter is everyone's own opinion and user score, because it tells what the actual players think of the game. You really shouldn't judge any game based on the score. Take Monster Hunter for example - an overall great game liked by many - and the reviewers gave it around 6-7/10, whereas the user scores are way above 8. But fine, trust your numbers, and I'll guarantee you'll miss loads of fine games.
that the two games he mention are the best RPG, you are missing the point its just a difference in opinion.......
Demon souls and Valkyria Chronicles are my favorite RPGs
YAwn... metacritic and gamerankings oh my!!!
I DID include the bad reviews, and most of them unanimously stated it was both games technical flaws that were most unforgivable. Which warranted a lower score.
And LO was NOT UPDATED.... its a known fact that ALL REVIEWED copies were not the final product. there WERE NO 1 min long load times, there WERE NO SLOW DOWN DURING LARGE SPELLs in the retail game.
And oh please... I can find many flaws with most of the so called rpgs you listed Especially Fable 2. And just because something has RPG elements does not make it a full blown RPG. I love how you gloss over the fact that Eternal Sonata got about teh same average game score as LO on 360, and only the PS3 version is a few points higher. Which is natural since you have a whole host of PS3 only publications and sites to review. Not to mention not much was changed but adding a few items and characters. Story stayed the same, experience stayed the same.
Which is why only looking at EVERYOENS combined scores on a site liek meta or GR is stupid. A whole HOST of reputable sources can give something 8s and 9s and then a bunch of places no one has ever heard of with unkown reasonings can give the same exact game a 3. And then start a review with "I dont like JPRGS".... Again you fail.
The whole show here is about how hush404 claimed that Lost Odyssey and Blue Dragon are sub par games. They might be in his opinion, but in that case keep it to yourself. Why post about something you're not even interested in? Besides, Silver-Tiger only ever said they "are cosidered two of the best RPGs this generation", which obviously doesn't mean that they're "the best of the best", but rather that they're among the best RPGs of this generation.
@taigon
the issue being discussed wasn't about whether or not reviews are fair or should be a factor if your choosing of a game. Everyone has their own opinion on reviews, reviewers who's opinion they respect (and thus a review may mean more to them)... but that's a topic for another day.
If it boils down to everyone complaining that reviews aren't something you should look at for advise... and it's really all personal opinion that should be the end line for determining how awesome a game is... then I stand my ground in saying that there are MUCH better RPGs around than the two we're discussing.
@Ninjiz
Again, you harp SO much on the fact that I mention scores and reviews as being a horrible point of backing my opinion. Why does your hate for the system of reviewing prove your point over mine because you say it does? Simple. You're delusional.
I don't give a flying **** that YOU can find flaws YOU don't like in Fable 2 and consider the two titles we're discussing to be better products. I simply don't agree with your opinion. I provide reviews that point toward the same thing and you just sit there dismissing it all... ALL because of your opinions of the games and the idea of conjoined review sites.
In the end, according to MANY opinions there ARE better RPGs out there for this generation of games... and YES there are opinions out there are say just the opposite, it all depends on who you ask, what reviews you read etc. But back to my issue with your comment - you can't pick apart the bad reviews and say "well, I think that doesn't matter, I didn't mind this flaw as much as this reviewer, I don't think this flaw warrants the amount of point reduction" etc. Then look at the good reviews and just shake your head and smile.
The only reason I picked the PS3 version of Eternal Sonata is because it got a higher score (that the 2 games in question) based on metacritic reviews, which was going to my point of other games getting higher scores. I choose to list only 80 and above reviews, there's no conspiracy against the 360 version - it's just a matter of numbers.
You also can't sit there and growl about the reviews of the PS3 version of eternal sonota being a lot of PS3 only publications, because THE EXACT SAME THING is present in the 360 version of reviews.
Yes opinion. This thread is really all opinion, be it mine, yours, reviewers etc. That's completely true.
Note, I never moved the topic into "Best RPGs ever", I kept it to this generation.
Sadly, it seems were all fighting to state our opinion. But that's really what a place such as this is for. Can you honestly say it isn't? Be it a positive or negative opinion, it's still an opinion and it deserves as much space under the category it relates to as much as "OMG I love this game/developer".
What really got me flared up and willing to write out replies is the blatant dismissal with teh "Your a Fanboy" line thrown into the mix. That line gets used WAY too much these days when people don't want to bother hearing anothers views on a subject. Had I ripped in and said "This console sucks, this company is **** and **** anyone who thinks otherwise" then a statement of "**** you fanboy" would be appropriate. I didn't though, I merely stated my opinion, followed up by examples of reviews and such to back what I was saying, that these games weren't the "Lighting in the dark" amazing titles that other posts claimed them to be.
another boring post that does nothing to discredit what i said... wow youre tired LOL
I never moved the topic to the "Best RPGs ever" either, I meant this generation only. My mistake for not writing clearly :) And that fanboy-ism referring line was completely unnecessary in my opinion as well. What got me pissed (sorta) was the fact that people always tend to refer to a game's review score when someone's opinion differs from their own. It's everyones own playing experience that matters, nothing else. And your last post is absolutely true, I too think that this is the place to shout out your opinion and that fanboy-line is totally overused. So hey, no grudge, eh?