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Minnesota video game law blocked by court |
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Remember the proposed Minnesota bill that called for a US$ 25 fine every time a minor below 17 is caught renting or buying a Mature or Adults Only game? As it turns out, a judge from the US Court of Appeals blocked the policy, just a day before it was supposed to take into effect.The judge raised points about the proposed bill, and put to attention the lack of evidence that video games directly harmed or affected Minnesota children in any way. Here's an excerpt from the judge's ruling:
Indeed, a good deal of the Bible portrays scenes of violence, and one would be hard-pressed to hold up as a proper role model the regicidal Macbeth. Although some might say that it is risible to compare the violence depicted in the examples offered by the State to that described in classical literature, such violence has been deemed by our court worthy of First Amendment protection, and there the matter stands.
Well, there you have it. It's a win for the video game industry (and, we dare to surmise, the gamers as well) indeed, and that's all thanks to the First Amendment.
Via CNET News
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It makes no difference to me either way, but the arguments on either side seem to get far more ludicrous than necessary.
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but if I did care I think $25 fine is to small
I mean there should be a fine for store workers that sell or rent to minors games rated [M] if there was sush a fine it might help curve Imean if I buy my son a game so be it if he buys a game I dont think he should play ...I would get in trouble going to the store and kicking the guys azz he should get in trouble selling or renting it
to a minor
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what a role model you are to america (+
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I stated off with that because we are not allowed to sell games to a person who isn't as old as the rating for the game... Yeah, it still happens and it doesn't really bother anyone... But if the store in question is doing this repeatedly then they are likely to get investigated and fined accordingly.
It keeps the politicians happy (most of the time) that games rating 18 should only be sold to people 18 and over (same for the other ratings).
Question : In theory can a 10 year old girl or boy go into a video game shop and purchase a title that only an adult should be able to buy.... with no challenge via US law?
If the answer is yes, then get the law passed and then watch as Jack Thompson thinks he's won... only to find that it's still happening.
I remember watching "Flesh Gordon" as a 9 year old! Yep the store gave me the wrong VHS in the box... I was SO happy.
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It's like the arguing that rock music makes us all devil worshipers. Completely illogical and absolutely no basis in reality.
Way back in the '80s my favorite arcade game was Rampage. I would have been less than 10 at the time, but I had no delusions that real violence was bad. Hell, cartoons were more violent than most video games in those days.
Today, I play violent games as an outlet for frustration and stress. I play to relax. If the Nanny State were to take that away from me... I don't know what would happen, but I wouldn't want to think about my possible state of mind from pent up stress and frustration.
... Yeah, I ramble. Sorry.
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However, what most non-gamer lawyers and legislators are trying to do is expunge violence from video games completely. It's the social mentality that everything needs to be "kid friendly".
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Based on his theory, there is no evidence that porn "directly harmed or affected Minnesota children in any way". So why is porn illegal to minors? There is no evidence that a glass of wine a day "directly harmed or affected Minnesota children in any way". So why is it illegal to sell a child alcohol?
The line of inappropriate content is obvious. These guys simply aren't showing the goods.
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Wow dude, if you were any more ignorant on the ways of life you would be dead.
Are you serious here? You honestly have no clue what "like" cases have to do with current cases?
Do us all a favor, go back to school.....fool....
"If there's a $25 fine for trying to buy a game, then all a teen has to do is get an adult to buy it for them"
HELLO!?!?!?!? That's the point! That's what these people want.
What you just described is the SAME THING as with alcohol, cigarettes. Do you get it yet? THINK THINK THINK real hard and you just might get it.....some day.
"How would this law even be enforced?"
Seriously? You don't get it? Honestly, only a f@cking moron wouldn't be able to get it. In some states, it's already enforced. In EVERY STATE it's enforced with other consumer products.
"Would police be called to the store to issue a $25 fine? "
HAHAHAHAHAHA!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!! What a MORON!!!!!!!!!! !!!!! This is 100% proof positive that Mr. Nonsense has absolutely NO CLUE WHAT-SO-EVER as to what he's talking about. All this guy does is talk out his rear end.
"Laws can't take the place of proper parenting."
This law does NOT take the place of parenting. It AIDS parents as a tool for them to better parent their kids. Only dumb stupid ignorant children think it's possible for every parent to know EVERYTHING about EVERY game on the market.
As much as you ding me about bring up alcohol and porn (now before you rant like a dumb child again, try to understand this) it's the SAME THING. If you feel these adult oriented games shouldn't be rated or enforced then you ALSO HAVE TO AGREE that kids should be allowed to buy porn and alcohol. After all ACCORDING TO YOU it's a parents job to keep porn and alcohol (adult games) away from kids.....not the liquor store owner (Walmart employee).
You fail on SO MANY levels.
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"Give me a legitimate study that says videogames are harmful to minors. Remember I said legitimate."
Look bud, you don't get to ask this question yet because I ALREADY ASKED for legitimate PROOF on how a glass of wine a day can harm a minor. I asked for PROOF of how porn can harm a minor. When you answer those I'll answer yours.
The FACT is none of this is directly harmful to a minor on a single case by case basis. It is IMPOSSIBLE TO EVER prove as such. You have to look and judge the ENTIRE BIG PICTURE. There is NO DOUBT that adult only rated games contain ADULT themes. DUH!!!!! That's why they are rated as ADULT or MATURE. Minors have no business having free reign on adult material.
Honestly, I don't know why they are attacking a violence angle. That is neither here or there. They should just concentrate on restricting adult material to adults. Let the rating orgs fight their own battles.
Let's look at how hypocritical these law makers are:
We WANT to fine business for selling adult material to minors (playboy).
We DO NOT WANT to fine business for selling adult material to minors (videogame porn).
Then it gets into the whole violence issue. The problem here is there is no violence rating. Mature is Mature. There is no different Mature Porn rating and Mature Violence rating. They go hand in hand. To kill one means to kill the other.
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It's 100% relevant BECAUSE you bring up the issue of the government raising kids instead of parents. If you can't grasp common concepts then why are you bothering to type here?
"Porn is not in any games (maybe Japan.)"
Porn is ADULT content as is in ALL ADULT rated material. God, your an idiot.
"Encouraging alcohol or drug use is not in any games. It doesn't matter."
Yes it is and yes it does. However, ENCOURAGING is NOT what I'm talking about. Just give up, you're too ignorant to hold a conversation here.
"Uh there are no "adults only" console games. No retailes would sell them."
OMG! How damn ignorant can you be?
"You find a pornographic console game and let me know, ok?"
Adult/Mature and pornographic are not synonymous.
"I'll say it again, I'm done here."
You were done before you started.
The POINT here is ADULT CONTENT. You keep flipping sides in order to force a point. Much like an immature child desperately trying to win a debate with absolutely no facts or common sense about him.
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