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MGS4 and GTAIV kicked off top 10 in UK, SSBB still on top

Posted Jul 8, 2008 at 5:26AM EST by QJ Staff

Listed in: News Tags: Chart Track, UK

Super Smash Bros. Brawl in UK video game charts - Image 1

The UK is once again infatuated with Mario. It must be his mustache and piercing blue eyes. Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Games managed to stay on top of the UK Charts on and off for four months, I wonder how long Super Smash Bros. Brawl will manage to do so. It already beat Metal Gear Solid 4's track record on top of the UK Charts.

Speaking of MGS4, the game is nowhere to be found on the top 10, and neither is Grand Theft Auto IV. MGS4 has dropped down to 15th place, while GTAIV is found on the 13th. You can't mess with Mario. Lego Indy keeps its spot on third place. Here are the rest of the top placers in the UK for the week ending on July 5.

Super Smash Bros. Brawl
Battlefield: Bad Company
Lego Indiana Jones: Original Adventures
Big Beach Sports
Beijing 2008
Top Spin 3
Wii Fit
Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Games
Wii Play
The Bourne Conspiracy
Guitar Hero III: Legends of Rock
Dr Kawashima's Brain Training
Grand Theft Auto IV
Mario Kart Wii
Metal Gear solid 4: Guns of the Patriots
Kung Fu Panda
Guitar Hero: Aerosmith
Unreal Tournament III
Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare
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I've been playing games since the late 80's, got hooked on games and now work in the industry. I've had all the mainstream consoles and handhelds. It doesn't surprise me that Brawl is doing this well. Hands down the most fun game I've ever played, and that's not a comment being made lightly.

Even the single player is pretty good. Soundtrack is one of the best I've heard, so many memorable tracks remixed right. Online could be better but meh. Don't think I've played any other game since Brawl's UK launch.

In no way is this surprising. MGS4 is. Thought that might have lasted a bit longer in the charts. GTA IV has already had its run. Just needs that DLC to freshen it up again.

# - — APerson 2008-07-08 10:17

Whoa, so MGS4 is now below Mario Kart? LOL!

# ... — Ninjiz 2008-07-08 10:31

Too bad UK isnt the only region its fallin in...

# Agreed. — Scarface88 2008-07-08 11:22

Smash Bros. is mint, isn't it? I've hardly played anything else since getting it on its release day over here. However, I'm surprised MGS4 has dropped that low.

As for all you UK bashers, shut up. The USA isn't the only country in the world. Pull your heads out of your red, white and blue asses and open your eyes (and yes, I'm aware that the UK flag has the same colours on it).

No offense intended to those who don't totally refute the UK and/or jerk off to the USA.

# really? — projectdgarage 2008-07-08 13:18

i thought brawl was terrible. I guess its great with the younger age group and those who barely played melee, but competition-wise melee was a better game and also provided a learning curve separating the great players from the "noobs." brawl is too user friendly and any button masher can win a competition. feel free to criticize but thats my two cents.

# . — Popson 2008-07-08 13:25

Brawl is great but it isn't everyone's 'cup of tea'... Heck, I bought a Wii just for Brawl, but i've honestly grown bored of it. I haven't touched my Wii in a couple weeks (I think I might Chip it)

It's sad that MGS4 is already falling off the charts, it hasn't even been a month. Then again, everyone who wanted mgs4, has mgs4.

Anyway....

# .. — JaXeRiR 2008-07-08 20:50

Most of people never even played the ORIGINAL, Super Smash Bros. on the Nintendo 64 - I'd bet you even didn't know about it...

I think it was the best, even though it didn't have so many characters and maps.

# - — APerson 2008-07-08 22:01

I don't get why you said Brawl "was terrible" yet you clearly haven't played the game.

The game only has a slightly slower pace when fighting in the air, this is to open up air combat which Melee (I was a competitive Melee player) didn't pull off too well. The better pacing lets you get proper strategy into the game - the absolute polar opposite of button mashing. Take Ike; if you button bash with him you're going to lose. ANY of the upper tier characters would have a new player constantly losing.

I'm noticing a trend amongst certain players, those who usually instantly dismiss Brawl and claim it to be dumbed down. I'd put money on them just not liking Brawl/having something against Nintendo and never even playing the game... It's getting quite evident.

I also was going to criticise your feebly constructed points with or without your permission.

# - — APerson 2008-07-09 00:27

The Wii is ruining the industry? LAWL.

The Wii is making the industry better. Not seen the sales charts comparing each gen? The 360 and PS3 are failing to match their previous systems sales and attach rates. Blame it on PC gaming but it looks as if people don't care for them systems, exactly the first signs of the 80's gaming crash. Thanks to the Wii and DS we probably won't see a crash since they're riding so high.

Whereas the Wii is offering devs with a safe financial outcome. They don't have to sink as much in to produce a Wii game but still make a profit back from it.

I'm sorry the Wii doesn't fit in with your broken view of what gaming should be. But guess what - it's selling by the bucket load and has some absolutely stellar games. Hell... How many exclusive 90%+ rated games does the PS3 have? Yea, just MGS4. Whereas the Wii has 4. That's not a bad system by any stretch of the imagination. You're just discounting it for the lesser rated games, which nobody did for any other system before they struggled so hard to find a problem against the Wii...

BTW MGS4 has a limited market. It's limited by age (most gamers are younger, or older with jobs), limited by the lesser PS3 sales, it's in a limited genre and not an all-round entertainment game and carries an air around it that makes people think they have to play the earlier games to get the story. Most newcomers aren't going to play through 3 other 20 hour games before this. Grow a brain and learn how the world works.

# why are guys so upset??? — Quixand 2008-07-09 00:33

all those are-waving-hip-shaking wii boys has to buy a game somehow... and we all know how many wiis are out there.

# to raggedjimmi — keengsnake 2008-07-10 20:47

I agree and disagree in some areas!

"The 360 and PS3 are failing to match their previous systems sales and attach rates."

Are you a moron? These figures can't be made by just guessing . Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't the X360 selling better than the Xbox?

"Blame it on PC gaming but it looks as if people don't care for them systems".

I would have to agree seeing as how many game torrents for PC are being used daily. (illegally) but don't count me in your claim.

" They don't have to sink as much in to produce a Wii game but still make a profit back from it."

Half-assed games with no story depth and the same plumber doing the same **** for over 20 years gets boring after awhile . Don't get me wrong they sell , but it's aimed at an younger audience .(not saying older people can't enjoy).

"it's selling by the bucket load and has some absolutely stellar games"

What did you expect ? it's the cheapest off all three and being Nintendo it has a fan base all over the world unlike Microsoft that has it's most fans in USA. As for Sony it's not going down that easy . It has taken Nintendo down TWO times It can do it again! and it will...

Hell... How many exclusive 90%+ rated games does the PS3 have?

It actually has more than what you claim, not to mention a variety of different games . I bet if you were to put all the Wii titles that have 90% or better reviews it'll have that Phat plumber more than once in the cover! It just gets old. Not to mention they are 10 dollars cheaper . You pay for what you get . kinda like a cheap high.

"That's not a bad system by any stretch of the imagination."

It's not a bad system. In fact I love the Wii ......as a system only... it's the games and lack of NEW "heroes", and "fantasies"... that makes me want to puke all over the thing. Ok you got new controls but the same characters/games for over 20 years ...booo! I can't wait for Mario Party 50 and Mario Kart 22! pffttt

"BTW MGS4 has a limited market. It's limited by age (most gamers are younger, or older with jobs), limited by the lesser PS3 sales, it's in a limited genre and not an all-round entertainment game and carries an air around it that makes people think they have to play the earlier games to get the story. Most newcomers aren't going to play through 3 other 20 hour games before this. Grow a brain and learn how the world works."

Metal Gear is anything but limited you crazy woman! It sold very well in all three major regions ! Not to mention that they are being bundled with ps3's and REAL records have shown an increase of 200% percent in sales . Now is

that as limited as the space in those old 8gb DVD's you call "Games" for your wii? To me the only thing new and good the Wii has is the controls and online play (if you can find a decent online game) .

"Grow a brain and learn how the world works".

if you knew anything about anything you'd know that the world does not revolve around you or your brain!

# Sorry Keensnake — APerson 2008-07-11 07:04

Well you're actually very wrong in many areas.

Firstly no, the 360 and PS3 are failing to match their previous consoles sales. Go to nexgenwars for confirmation.

I would be inclined to take your points seriously but since you harbour a fanboy grudge against Nintendo I simply cannot.

I don't quite understand how you can say I don't know anything (I have an Ma in marketing and business management and currently run a game studio and publisher). The evidence for MGS4 not being a mainstream hit is the sudden drop in sales. A commercial hit is something that sustains sales, not something that sells a lot initially then drops off the charts. That's the gaming equivalent to the music industry's "one hit wonders".

The good news about the sudden drop is that in order to continue sales it will be ported, in time. But truth be told most non-casual games have limited markets. The hardcore market is minor compared to casuals. Hence the dominating casuals on the charts (Brain Training, Wii Fit et al).

Mario Kart 22? Hmm. See this is what I mean, you have difficulty in articulating your points. Mental deficiency likely? So far there have been 5 (FIVE) Mario Kart games. That's less than the number of Metal Gear games despite being an older franchise...

And you final mental failing - 360 is the cheapest console. 360 Arcade is £150 compared to the Wii's £180.

No, actually I think your final failing was thinking that the PS3 can overtake the Wii. Frankly that's retarded from a fanboy, from a business, from any kind of angle. From the market trend it would take Sony 1.8 years to catch up to the Wii IF Nintendo stopped selling them from today. Seeing that we're already 2 years into this gen wouldn't that be... when next gen starts?

Sheesh, the failings continue.

"It actually has more than what you claim,"

NOPE. Go to Metacritic. Look for PS3 games and arrange by score. Notice that only 1 is an exclusive title? Go to the Wii and arrange by score. Yea... 5.

Seriously I don't even understand how you can argue against facts.

Last one - these "old 8gb DVD's" you refer to store games like Oblivion, GTA IV and all these other giant games. So go away until you learn about game design and methods around storage limitations.

Of note, HD textures and video are the biggest space wasters on modern games. Since the Wii doesn't require HD textures or videos it saves a LOT of space.

# yeah kiss my — keengsnake 2008-07-11 16:51

"I don't quite understand how you can say I don't know anything (I have an Ma in marketing and business management and currently run a game studio and publisher). The evidence for MGS4 not being a mainstream hit is the sudden drop in sales. A commercial hit is something that sustains sales, not something that sells a lot initially then drops off the charts. That's the gaming equivalent to the music industry's "one hit wonders".

it doesnt not take a genius to figure out what is actually happening . The sales were bound to go down down seeing how they sold over a million sales in less than what 2 days ! kiss my ass schoolboy!

"I would be inclined to take your points seriously but since you harbour a fanboy grudge against Nintendo I simply cannot."

Label me what you want . You can still kiss

myass. I label you from now on as asskisser suck-up!

"The hardcore market is minor compared to casuals.Hence the dominating casuals on the charts (Brain Training, Wii Fit et al)."

Yeah having a kids game with bunch of fat USA people jumping on limited spaced Japanese mat is so HARDCORE!!

"Mario Kart 22? Hmm. See this is what I mean, you have difficulty in articulating your points. Mental deficiency likely? So far there have been 5 (FIVE) Mario Kart games. That's less than the number of Metal Gear games despite being an older franchise..."

See this is what makes me see what a real dumbass you are . Have you taken a joke lately ?

It's called sarcasm!!!! Answer this though what would be after Wii ? what same crap are they going to bring over and over over again? it's not mental deficiency . I just can't understand why play the same game with a different control scheme ? I think you my friend are brain washed by your own imagination . Get over it .

"No, actually I think your final failing was thinking that the PS3 can overtake the Wii. Frankly that's retarded from a fanboy, from a business, from any kind of angle. From the market trend it would take Sony 1.8 years to catch up to the Wii IF Nintendo stopped selling them from today. Seeing that we're already 2 years into this gen wouldn't that be... when next gen starts?"

Why are you with that fanboyism thing again ? that isn't even a real word! Mr. educated $hit.

You thinking that I'm a "fanboy" , does not change a DAM thing ! I still have my opinions and you still have your imagination got it ? We think differently , and the possibility of over taking them is always AVAILABLE ! Just because you said it won't happen all of a sudden Sony is going to stop ? Get out of your rock son.

"NOPE. Go to Metacritic. Look for PS3 games and arrange by score. Notice that only 1 is an exclusive title? Go to the Wii and arrange by score. Yea... 5.

Seriously I don't even understand how you can argue against facts."

The hell is wrong with you ?? Are you serious ??

MGS is the only "exclusive" title to got a perfect score but still not the only exclusive out there. I don't give a crap what "reviewers" think, I play the games I WANT . SCREW them and you! I'm tired of "gamers", telling me what im " supposed" to like. F' U!

"Last one - these "old 8gb DVD's" you refer to store games like Oblivion, GTA IV and all these other giant games. So go away until you learn about game design and methods around storage limitations.

Of note, HD textures and video are the biggest space wasters on modern games. Since the Wii doesn't require HD textures or videos it saves a LOT of space.

Yeah I know what they can store. Games like Gta and oblivion are the shiznit . But my beef is not with the Xbox I love it too. I hate the Wii and the Wii will never get these good examples you gave because you will have plenty of plumber boy going down to clean your pipe? right?!? yeah so the Wii " saves alot of space " you say ? Actually saving "space" for the Wii can be a both good and bad for a game . Not to mention it might sacrifice the over all " sharpness" or quality of the game . To each his own , leave me alone. Rhymes .

# have ta agree with snake over there — fenrir911 2008-07-11 21:31

as many exclusives as the wii has, not many of them are really good. mario kart is the same as the rest, every game that required techniques nintendo took out them like in mario kart ds. they took out snaking. in ssbb they took out wavedashing and some of the competition gameplay. they slowed it down. id still have to say that the ps3 dominates in the better exclusives. 360 has what halo 3 (failure) gears of war (only fun for awhile) and they just now got UT3 after like 7 months. and they only added two maps and took out mods. With games like resistance (better cause there isnt that noob feel of autoaim) mgs4, Haze, and couple of other ones.(too lazy to look at my collection) id say that it dominates. im not saying 360 sucks but with that kind of console they focus too much on graphics and to little on gameplay. SSBB was fun but gets boring after awhile, and everything with the plumber in it is getting annoying.

# - — APerson 2008-07-13 02:43

I'm having a hard time trying to understand what you're saying. Frankly I'm confused as to why you want somebody kissing your donkey, what has a donkey got to do with anything?

You can argue back all you want, you're entitled to your opinions. I'm not denying that and you're free to continue with your opinions and thoughts. My problem was with you claiming incorrect information as "fact". For example - the only way the PS3 will be able to catch up with the Wii is if the Wii is no longer sold for 1.8 months and the PS3 sales accellerate exponentially. Such an event would require an MGS4 hyped game every month.

Also - why did you joke about "Mario Kart 22" and not about Final Fantasty, MGS, GTA etc having countless sequels? To be so biased is a discredit to you.

# - — APerson 2008-07-13 02:45

I didn't buy a Wii just for Brawl and I'm still loving every moment of it ^^

# - — APerson 2008-07-13 07:40

How on god's earth can you say the PS3 has better exclusives, yet only 1 is actually any good?

I'm not defending the 360 but it's got a much larger, more diverse and higher rated library than either the PS3 or even the Wii.

You lost ALL credability the moment you mentioned Haze btw, and it's retroactive so your post is now disregarded.

Everything with the plumber gets annoying? How queer. But IMO anything with guns, space marines, WW2 themes etc are pretty damn boring. Then again people who don't like original games like them above items...

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