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Jack Thompson: U.S. should follow UK game rating policies

Posted Jul 6, 2007 at 8:36AM EST by QJ Staff

Listed in: Tags: British Board of Film Classification, Jack Thompson, UK, Verbatim

With today's games being tailored for mature tastes and yielding graphic content, controversial lawyer Jack Thompson thinks America should be just as strict and as efficient as UK in rating titles and making sure those ratings stick.

This is after the entire hubbub of Rockstar's Manhunt 2, being refused a rating (which is tantamount to a ban) by the British Board of Film Classification (BBFC). The following is Mr. Jack's statement, verbatim:

The UK does it much better than the U.S., which rates a game that's inappropriate for minors and then sells it to them. I think the U.K. has got it right. You rate a game and you can't sell it to people if it falls in a certain category - the rating actually has a sanction, whereas in the U.S. the rating means nothing.

Jack Thompson also cited the root cause of the problem in the U.S., being that the authorities' failure to punish or discipline those who ignore the ratings and continue to sell violent games to children. Whereas in UK, such acts mean paying up a hefty fine, or doing time behind bars.

He says that currently, there isn't a single law in the law books that prevent a ten-year-old child from purchasing a mature-rated game, and that other countries should do well to follow UK's system.

However, to be fair, shouldn't the first line of defense - if one considers exposure to mature-rated games as an assault to morality - for minors be their own parents or guardians? Perhaps, with responsible parenting and proper communication between the 'rents and the kids, this wouldn't be an issue.

Isn't that something to think about?

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Can somebody tell me, who is this guy !?

I've been seeing his picture all over the net, but who the hell is this guy anyway o0

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Well, its idiotic that a handfull of people get to decide what kindof games an entire country is allowed to buy. They dont outlaw movies such as Saw ? Guess they still associate the word 'video game' with little kids. Guess what, there are also alot of people who aren't adults playing games. And I am pretty sure these people are gettin fed up with playing kiddygames.

# .. — Guest 2007-07-06 10:12

Leave it up to the parents. Don't blame a country because there are a few parents who shouldn't be having kids in the first place

# Look below — Guest 2007-07-06 10:13

"He says that currently, there isn't a single law in the law books that prevent a ten-year-old child from purchasing a mature-rated game, and that other countries should do well to follow UK's system."

That ten-year-old must look hella old and have an ID to prove it because every game store I go to asks for an I.D. and without it you don't get the M rated game.

# yo — Guest 2007-07-06 10:19

SIGNED. I AGREE AT FULL FORCE.

# aa — Guest 2007-07-06 10:23

assface

# Get a Life. — Guest 2007-07-06 10:24

Somebody please tell this man to get a life.

# Jack Thompson is CRAZY — Guest 2007-07-06 10:24

"The UK does it much better than the U.S., which rates a game that's inappropriate for minors and then sells it to them. I think the U.K. has got it right. You rate a game and you can't sell it to people if it falls in a certain category - the rating actually has a sanction, whereas in the U.S. the rating means nothing."

A) The US doesn't sell the game to minors, the ESRB was created to tell minors what they can and cannot play. Parents and irresponsible clerks sell games to minors, and in some states have to pay fines for doing so.

B) Rating a game and disallowing it's release is censorship. Censoring a game for a younger audience is intended, but censoring it for the intended audience is just plain stupidity and immaturity.

C) When I was 16 I could NOT rent "Conker's Bad Fur Day" on N64, reason being that it was rated 'M' and the clerks were cautious about age ratings. If this act, of keeping an M rated game out of a 17 year old's hands is the "rating meaning nothing" I do not understand what more you want.

In conclusion, I hope they find Jack Thompson crazy and unable to practice law, as by his many accusations throughout the years he is obviously not understanding the ESRB and the rating system in place, and it seems so simple a child could figure it out. Everyone can grow up and release a video game.

# Id Checks — Guest 2007-07-06 10:24

That is true, you are carded if you look a certain age, BUT if someone wanted to sell a game to a minor, there is no LAW that says its illegal. Most companies have adopted the ESRB and create policies that can lead to termination.

# In the UK — Guest 2007-07-06 10:29

Over here in the UK, I went to buy a 12 and they still asked for ID.

Also:

"He says that currently, there isn't a single law in the law books that prevent a ten-year-old child from purchasing a mature-rated game, and that other countries should do well to follow UK's system."

What? WHAT? I think he means there isn't a law on a 10 year old playing a M game.

# ||| — Guest 2007-07-06 10:30

Its the same in New Jersey. There have been times where my little brother has been told to leave a store for not being old enough to buy M-rated games.

# jack has to pick on the game industry — Guest 2007-07-06 10:33

because he can attempt to sway public opinion to back his cause with horror stories. If he were to attempt a campaign against the real problem (apathetic parents) he would risk having no one behind him but a country full of pissed off parents with pitchforks, baying for HIS blood instead of Take Two's.

Grow some balls Jack and tackle the real issue you chicken *****!

# This is totally retarded. — Guest 2007-07-06 10:36

All of this BS because parents can't read the back of a game box. Completely retarded.

# Hey Mr. Thompson!!! — Guest 2007-07-06 10:49

Guess what? I was playing violent games such as Mortal Kombat when I wasn't yet in grade school, and I'm currently an A Honor Roll student, involved in plenty of great extracurricular activities. My parents seem like some of the few that actually stride the extra length to make sure that my mind is capable of realizing that a videogame is just a videogame, and nothing more. It's not a guide for people on how to live out their lives, it's just an escape from the REAL world where you can do what you want without such harsh penalties, rather than bringing your troubles into real life. If I have some anger I want to get out of my mind, why can't I play a great game such as Resistance: Fall of Man and burn it off? Then, I can go back into the real world without blowing up over something that someone did or said to me. That's my two cents, thank you.

# yes — Guest 2007-07-06 10:52

absolutely 110% correct. this man will never stfu.

# What an azz — Guest 2007-07-06 11:03

If this guy likes the U.K. laws so much why doesn't he just move his career as a "lawyer" to the U.K. cause this guy will never stop his BS.

# afsd — Guest 2007-07-06 11:19

This guy's kids probably play all the M rated games he's against but since hes a dumbass, he'll never know.

# pfff — Guest 2007-07-06 11:30

Even if he did move to the U.K he'll just get ass whipped by angry mobs and those stupid hooded gang wannabes..

Sorry, it just irritates me when people hang around your local store for no apparent reason lol.

# I HATE HIM — Guest 2007-07-06 11:30

WHY JACK WHY!

# why jack why — Guest 2007-07-06 11:41

Jack Thompson likes to flip flop his ideas on behalf to slam games, Where was Jack's UK standing when the ESRB changed San Andreas' rating from M to AO, never heard him complain about that change in rating. Plus Manhunt 2 was never released as an AO game it was pre-determined to be an AO game. Take-Two could have spent some more time on the game and edit it into an M rated game but they stuck by their guns and decided to not release the game altogether

# sad but true — Guest 2007-07-06 11:56

Jack Thomson is nothing but the pest

# Wow — Guest 2007-07-06 11:59

First time I agree with Jack Thompson, US ratings should follow UK ratings, this way Manhunt 2 is banned and whenever such a sadistic horrible game reappears (which will appear like in 2-5 more years) then it would be banned too.

# Thats BS — Guest 2007-07-06 12:03

Thats total BULL*****!!! I'm couldn't get my hands on GTA Vice City without my mom there with me, and I'm 16. These liberals need a bullet in the eye. They need to trust us more. What is seeing violence gonna do. I don't have violence thoughts, I don't do violence, I see a lot of violence on the street I live on. there's more gore in my school than the video games I play. I thought the game bully was based on my school. This *****er talks about the parents should be the first line of defense. Did he even know that those same people he is talking about are the same people buying these games for their 10 year olds and *****ing about it's contents after the retailer told them about what was in it. The rating on a game is real easy for people to see. These same *****ers have already got me waiting for 5 more years to be able to drink now they want to take away the one thing that makes their *****ed up world seem like a somewhat ok place. These liberal *****s need to go ***** themselves.

But I'm not that angry, in 1 more year I'll be able to buy any rated game that I want. And if something goes otherwise and I still can't get the game I want. Then I'll import it in from my home country Jamaica where I can get it no matter how old I am. Unlike here I don't hear about kids there killing themselves or each other because they saw it in a game.

Death to all liberals. They already took dodgeball away from schools. What next?? :'(

# . — Guest 2007-07-06 12:05

someone should ban you from the US

# 14 when I bought my first rated R game — Guest 2007-07-06 12:07

When Half Life 2 came out I bought that and no one ask me for ID. I was only 14 when I got the game to.

# Think about your comment... — Guest 2007-07-06 12:08

Think about your comment. "Leave it up to the parents", well you can't erase the fact that more than half the parents in the world are irresponsible can you? The thing is that a game like Manhunt 2 can affect kids mentally and most violent games end up in the hands of kids. Take for example the GTA games, more than 95% of them are played by kids. Now I don't think GTA games can affect kids but a game like Manhunt 2 can because the plot of the game is to be ultraviolent in many sadistic ways that a kid of lets say 6-12 years old can be affected. Again you can't erase the fact most parents are irresponsible and will buy this game for their kids. The only way to avoid negative impacts this game can have on kids is to avoid that and the only way it can be avoided is by avoiding this game for everyone, in other words banning it. If you're so selfish and cruel that you prefer a game over many innocent lives then you just don't deserve to live...

# and — Guest 2007-07-06 12:15

did you go into a violent rage after playing it? did you kill anyone, did it have any influence that made you want to go commit serious crimes? I guess not cause your hear posting.

# to metralspector — Guest 2007-07-06 12:19

are you on this guy's ***** or something? You can't ban a game from the audience it was rated for. I don't see much difference in manhunt 2 and the movie saw. It's easier for a kid to sneak in and see saw than get an m rated game.

# Same — Guest 2007-07-06 12:29

Same

# .. — Guest 2007-07-06 12:42

is it just me or does the picture of his eyes make him look like the G-man(if u dont know he is from Half-Life game)

# Re: Correction — Guest 2007-07-06 12:42

Actually, Mr. Somedude, Jack Thompson is a Republican. Just wanted to clear that up. But, yes. You're right. That guy needs to get a life and pick on something REALLY important, like the war in Iraq or something else that's even bloodier.

# ok — Guest 2007-07-06 12:51

It doesn't matter what party he's with. Both parties have people who are liberal and conservative. This guy is a liberal. Always trying to make things better by making them worse.

# THEY WILL GIVE ANY RETARD A LAW LICENSE — Guest 2007-07-06 12:52

hit the nail on the head.you are a frikin genious MR UNREGISTERED.

# jackyl — Guest 2007-07-06 12:59

As much as I don't like the guy, what he's saying in this case is not crazy, for once.

# yep — seargent007 2007-07-06 13:00

same here :) how bout that jack?

# --- — Demon Slayer 2007-07-06 13:02

Actually, there isn't a law that prevents children from buying Mature rated games. Most stores choose to follow the ESRB, but it is in no way a requirement. I believe the same is true for R rated movies; there's no law, but most stores choose to follow the ratings.

Making a law preventing a form of media from being sold to certain people could be considered both discrimination and a violation of our Freedom of Speech.

# rated m — Guest 2007-07-06 13:08

"You can't ban a game from the audience it was rated for"

This game wasn't rated for an audience:

"being refused a rating..."

# Jack Thompson is FUCT in the head! — Guest 2007-07-06 13:32

the description is self-explanatory, this guy just tries to make headlines.

# just wondering... — Guest 2007-07-06 14:07

why does JT hates violent games? did he try to swallow a violent game and nearly choked to death when he was young or what? O_o

# c.u.n.ty — Guest 2007-07-06 14:22

Jack is a total n00b he basically is similar to uwe bowell.. nothing good will ever come of him..

# @ somedude — Guest 2007-07-06 14:22

If a kid watches Saw wil he be psycologically affected? No. If a kid plays Manhunt 2 will he be psycologically eaffected? In some cases yes. Studies have proven it...

# .... — Guest 2007-07-06 14:33

wat a *****....

# lol — Guest 2007-07-06 15:19

stupid communists... trying to restrict freedom.

# falling away, from me — Guest 2007-07-06 15:38

how can somebody this ugly be taken seriouly

# Statistics — Guest 2007-07-06 15:44

why do people constantly pull statistics out of their ass to prove a point. "95% of kids play GTA," how the hell can anyone ever accurately ascertain that information? it's ridiculous with the scare tactics being used to scare lawmakers into banning these games. i've noticed no higher crime rates since GTA III was released, games don't train "terrorists." if anything has increased its the media's incessant need to blame every murder on something else and not the fricken MURDER! just another way the U.S. is completely screwed up.

# ?? — Guest 2007-07-06 15:45

What is the difference in either. Both can give people ideas. I don't see the difference in seeing some one shoot someone in a game, and seeing superman jump off a building. Little kids can be easily influenced by both. They try to blame one side of gaming.

# **** you jack — Guest 2007-07-06 17:36

Someone please do us all a favor and shoot him

# heh heh — Guest 2007-07-06 17:46

I wonder what Jack was smoking...

# sigh — Guest 2007-07-06 19:59

I really don't understand what he's trying to do here... The kids that play these games and maybe go on a rampage are the kids who get picked on at school and have a mental disorder. Simple as that. ITS NOT BECAUSE OF THE GAMES!!!! Its because their minds are truly messed up. I was 13 when i bought my first rated M game. I was 12 when i played my first rated M game. Postal 1. Did i go postal? Hell no, I'm not a nut!! It is the parents fault, simple as that.

# The issue is not violent games — Guest 2007-07-06 21:29

If a violent game influences someone to do something violent... There's clearly something wrong with them.

If they never play the game they're still crazy, they just haven't been 'triggered'.

There are people who don't play videogames who are criminals, murderers, rapists, terrorists and so on. If any do use the videogames made me do it excuse, that's all it is - an excuse.

It would make more sense to ban guns, alcohol and religion but people like these things and ultimately it's the person's responsibility on how to use them.

# To all above — Guest 2007-07-06 22:11

Im all for regulations for the prevention of minors to purchase M or AO games, and this is exactly what he's trying to see fit. Kids should abide by ratings just as much as their parents.

If the ESRB sees that a game is too violent for a child under 16, then so be it, and I hope lawmakers can help prevent children from playing any such game, of course, not by banning it.

Anyway, most of you guys are instantly seeing thompsons name and thinking OMG IDIOT LOLOLOL, but he's being a bit toned down on his words and only talking about REGULATING, not BANNING of games.

# Eh i guess — Guest 2007-07-06 22:15

Yeah, just like how the movie industry is. Violent or suggestive "R" Rated movies cant be watched without a parent or if someone's over 17 or 18.

I dont think you mean adults should only have the fun. Because, let me tell you, some games meant for kids SUCK. Hence why kids play more mature games because they have depth, as well as violence in it. Because, a good story cant have ***** without conflict.

# Regulation — Guest 2007-07-06 22:29

If the parents could be bothered to read the back of a game box, it wouldn't be a problem.

# censorship — Guest 2007-07-06 23:28

is wrong whatever the circumstances

# He's right for once — Guest 2007-07-07 00:19

wow. I can't believe this - but I actually agree with him. The first time ever.

The ratings thing is kinda pointless if they aren't being enforced. Yes, I realise violent games don't make normal people go out and kill people, but if a game is rated too violent or whatever for a 15 year old say, then the 15 year old shouldn't be able to buy it.

And yes, I am 17 myself and own a few 18 rated games, so yea, I know i'm kinda contradicting myself, but since the 18 rated games I do have were bought by my parents, they feel I am responsible and mature enough to play them.

# Lol! — Guest 2007-07-07 00:21

I bet the JackAttack could win you any lawsuit you wanted....

# ~ — Guest 2007-07-07 00:35

A kid isn't supposed to play manhunt 2. Nor supposed to watch a movie such as Saw.

# hmmn — Guest 2007-07-07 00:35

why dont you mr JT just resign as a law maker, copying law of other countries just proves that you are LAZY.

# jack thompson.... — Guest 2007-07-07 01:05

.... is a CLINT (courtesy of the UK)

# 'The US should follow UK game rating policies'...?! — Guest 2007-07-07 01:26

Well, the UK sometimes is a bit too strict. I went into Gamestation in my local town, and got 3 UMD movies to buy. I wasn't allowed to buy them, because 2 were rated 15. I am 15 years old, and was at the time, and the clerk wouldn't accept my DOB on the profile on my phone, so I had to delay the holiday in order to be able to get my mom to come along in order to get them. If anything, the US should be less like the UK.

# lol wow to metalspector — Guest 2007-07-07 02:04

You sir are a JT **** s.u.c.k.e.r.

So by your comments your saying no one should play games right.

Listen i have played doom and jurassic park for sega in 1992 , i was 6 does that mean i will start shooting people, do you even read or think of the BS your saying.

These kids choot and kill people cause they are Mentally ill and Deserve the DEE DEE DEE award.

I swear so play with him and barbies until you learn to STFU like this idiot should be doing.

Your not going to win anyone hearts on this, This is bad for gamers. Cause of the Stupid flawed Ratings that was implemented for Mortal Kombat this will one day banned all games. That means we will be stuck reading books called the JT way of life and Mostly cause problems.

They are taking away free speech and right to choose what we want.

Now Shut up and leave us alone.

# Jack Banning — Guest 2007-07-07 02:30

Actually, he is. By 'following the UK's rating system', any game that gets rated too high is automatically banned. That means any game that met whatever ratings the lawmakers decided was 'too high' could get banned. If they set a law that says 'AO Games are not suitable for children, and therefore, need to be rated AO, which means instant ban', then we'll never see any AO games EVEN THOUGH they're intended for 'ADULTS ONLY'.

May as well stop selling cars, since cars kill children, especially when kids steal their parents keys and go joyriding. A car is an Adult Only device. The onus is on the sellers of the games and the parents who buy them. The rating system works IF PEOPLE PAY ATTENTION TO IT. It only works in the UK because they have it set so that AO games get banned automatically, and anyone who sells an M game to a minor gets jail time. But I bet plenty of parents buy their children M games just like over here. They just don't have a Jack Thompson who goes on a crusade against violent games because they have different standards than we do.

Jack is a pest, a menace, and should be disbarred from practicing law. He is a fear mongerer, and really has no idea what he's talking about. He went on about how 'Bully' was a 'Columbine Simulator' when there's not even a single death in the game whatsoever. He was clamoring to get it banned /before details were even released on the game/. This just goes to show how skewed he is. If Take Two produced a game called 'MurderDeathKill ' and said 'A romp through the ruined childhood memories' and made a game about a kid playing amongst old and forgotten 80's cartoons and toys, he would clamor to get it banned as well even though there wasn't even such a concept as VIOLENCE in this game other than the name.

That's Jack for you. Tell me that isn't crazy.

# ignore him — Guest 2007-07-07 03:50

if you ignore him and don't write articles about him, he'll eventually go away. if you give him attention like this, then this bastard will keep on talking just to piss us all off. for everyones sake, please please please don't write anymore articles on he-who-must-not-be-named aka voldemort lol.

# ESRB Is Doing It Wrong! — Kichigai 2007-07-07 05:04

Am I the only one who thinks that the entire makeup of the ESRB is completely wrong? Its rating system (E, E7, T, M, AO) is too one dimensional, and its being pressured to do too much. My family has a grasp on what the ratings generally mean, but have no idea the meanings (neither do I). What exactly does a game have to do to get a T rating? Why aren't the content labels more descriptive? I personally despise the entire concept of the one/two letter rating label, and think we should just switch to content labels (realistic violence, etc.), so that parents can make a more informed decision. I think that the ESRB telling you that this particular game (Let's say Final Fantasy IX, for example) is a game for teens, when I would have no problem with a nine or ten year old playing. Consider the content for Christ's sake! FFIX had no blood or gore, its language was quite tame (maybe the worst they did was "dammit"), there was no objectification of women, nothing that would be considered "adult content," or anything like that. But the ESRB says it's still for teens and older, even though children under 13 have been exposed to far more mature content than that seen in FFIX (like maybe hearing daddy say "*****" when you were 18 months old? Or walking into your parents room when you were three, only to find them having sex? Or driving through the wrong part of Baltimore?) It's like the ESRB is telling me I'm a bad parent because I think my kids should be able to play that game.

Of course, then the ESRB is a bit inconsistent at times. Take a look at the game Jaws Unleashed or Destroy All Humans. Both were rated M by the ESRB, which means that (to anyone not willing to look beyond the label, and there's a lot of those people) it's on the same level of violence, gore, language and sex as Halo 2, Gears of War, Grand Theft Auto, and Leisure Suit Larry. But to anyone who's actually played those games (or watched someone play those games) the violence is nearly comical, the gore is minimal (compared even to the original Mortal Kombat), and the language is squeaky clean. Doesn't sound quite right to me.

Of course, the ESRB is also being overworked these days. Ever since Hot Coffee, they're expected to make revisions to games because of user introduced content (I guess The Sims is AO now), and rate every single little thing, right down to the multiple endings. Again, this doesn't sound quite right, that we're making gamers and companies suffer because a few miscreants though it was funny to see boobs (OMG BEWBS!) in a game. Hell, Halo 2 for PC had to be reworked and modified because apparently half a buttock was found somewhere in its unused/never seen texture maps, and Microsoft was forced to go in and find it, and remove it, or face getting an AO rating. You see worse in episodes of King of the Hill.

So I'm going to have to say that I'm on the entirely opposite end of the Spectrum from Jack, and I think that the ESRB's importance need to be turned down a bit, and its system completely reworked.

Oh, BTW: there is evidence to suggest that violent games do have an effect on people and their level of aggression, however this research also states that this effect only lasts between twenty minutes and an hour. Of course, this is just increased aggression (like you throwing your controller on the ground in rage), not rabid murderous rampages (like you choking your friend because he won't stop camping). There always is the whole "viewing this will possibly scar the child psychologically ," and that's true too, but I think the accessibility of games like that is rated a bit too high, but anyone giving a child a game like that, or having them sit through a session is outright negligence (though, we'll see how the courts rule on that one with Reiser, poor bastard). So STFU, truth hurts, but take it like an adult and don't rate someone down because they're right and you don't like it.

# @ Stealth — Guest 2007-07-07 06:44

First of all, it's weird people as violent and retarded in some comments as you are the people who defend the game (although maybe you aren't violent in real life, just a weird nerd who gets beat up at school and takes the furstration out on a sadistic game). Anyways if you would have read my WHOLE comment instead of the first sentence you wouldn't be making a fool of himself. First I don't say noone should play games, as in my comment I expressed that I don't think GTA games cpuld affect someone (and the ones you just mentioned like Doom and Jurasic park) cause they're fun and have a real plot. Now a game like Manhunt 2 focuses completely on being ultraviolent, sadictic and the purpose of the games seems to be to kill in the most mentally ill ways possible allowed by the game. This may not affect you and many people (or maybe it has affected you since you seem to not be able to respond against a comment in a positive way or smart way) but a few would be affected by this game and those people can end up commiting domestic violence or brutally murdering someone innocent, even your mother, father, sister, or you. Now I stand by the UK ratings which in fact are not as strict as Australia (which has banned over 20 games) but maked bans when necessary (only games ever banned in the UK are Carmaggedon and Manhunt 2). See this link which has a list of banned games in different countries and the reasons: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_banned_computer_and_video_games

# Dunno what they mean? — Guest 2007-07-07 07:18

Gee, I wonder what age of people shuld paly T rated games...

There are tons of content ratings out there, for all of the thins you describe--violence, sexual themes, and varying intensities of each. Suggestive themes

# ^ — Guest 2007-07-07 09:50

Stfu *****

# Good point — Guest 2007-07-07 10:02

Point taken, Jack Thompson is crazy. If your in the know about web comics, he tends to be "friends" with a few of owners, mainly Scott Ramsoomair of VG Cats and Gabe and Tycho at Penny Arcade.

If you don't know, look it up, its hilarious.

# I actually agree with 'some' of this. — Guest 2007-07-07 12:13

Although I find Jack Thompson to be rather over-zealous with his 'abhorance' towards games and I disagree with him at every turn, I do have to agree with what he's saying here.

Being a UK citizen I've grown up around the idea of certificates being legally enforced. If a game or film has received a 15 or 18 certificate, children under that age should not be allowed to see them, therefore it makes sense they should not be allowed to buy them.

I do however, disagree with censoreship and banning, we, as adults, should be allowed to decide for ourselves what is appropriate for us to view.

# Political Retards — Guest 2007-07-07 15:22

The problem isn't the ratings, it's the parents that walk into the stores and buy Manhunt 2 or GTA for little Jimmy. Retailers warn them of what's in the game, but the parents just shrug and get it for their whining brat kids to shut them up. Of course, the second little Jimmy gets the game home and start lopping body parts off and raeping hookers, the parents want to get militant, but really, if they're too stupid to realize a game titled "GRAND THEFT AUTO" isn't something a kid should be playing, maybe they should've been denied the right to breed in the first place.

# Wow.. just wow — Guest 2007-07-07 15:56

Someone, just go shoot him.. and while you at it yell at him something like "Hah.. and i dont even like fps!"

This guy makes my IQ drop every time i read something by him.. its redicilus

# .. — Dodo 2007-07-07 21:34

I don't know about US, but ID checking in UK is pretty strict. I'm 20, but I look pretty young for my age, like 16-17. I always get asked for ID. It's not pleasant, but at least they are doing their job.

Ultimately, it's up to kids' parents to take responsiblity and protect them from buying or playing violent games. Parents should supervise their kids playing games just as much as chatting online to potential paedophiles. It's because of lazy, ignorant parents kids turn out f**ked up.

I don't necessarily agree with BBFC's decision, but I think they do a better job at ratings. I just don't think banning the game or sticking an A/O rating is the solution to protect kids, when it can be simply dealt with better awareness. BBFC/ESRB could just issue a stict notice to all game retailers to take extra caution when selling particularly violent game.

# wrong — Guest 2007-07-08 03:55

Excuse, but the assertion by "Jonathan" above that in some states fines have to be paid when mature games are sold to minors is utterly false. There is no such law on the books in any state in the Union. That's precisely why we need them--there is no sanction against selling these adults materials to kids?

I'm "crazy for wanting that? Then the entire nations of UK, Canada, Japan, New Zealand, Australia, Gernmany, others in the EUk--they're all "crazy." Get a grip, people. Jack Thompson

# Jack is what's wrong — Guest 2007-07-08 06:05

There's no such law when it comes to 'R' rated movie either, and the FTC found in April 2007 that seven in ten underage shoppers (that's 70%) were able to purchase 'R' or un-rated (which are likely to be rated NC-17) movies. The 14th Amendment ensures that if you go after one type of media, you must go after them all. A chart I have provided at http://members.aol.com/KinCryos/FTC.png shows that of all violent media sold to children, videogames have taken a nosedive while other forms of media remain strong. Of course, none of that compares to the violence and sex found in the Holy Bible.

http://englishatheist.org/indexr.shtml

There are no better porn writers than the authors of the Bible. Consider the unbridled eroticism of the Song of Solomon. Or if you want hardcore smut, incest, rape, sexual mutilation, voyeurism, watersports, fornication, adultery, etc., look no further than your family Bible. And this is practicly given to children.

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