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Guinness World Records names its 50 most influential games of all time

Posted Feb 28, 2009 at 3:49PM EST by Glenn M.

Listed in: Magazines, News Tags: Chrono Trigger, SNES, Star Wars, Super Mario, The Orange Box, Zelda
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Guinness World Records EIC Craig Glenday put together an unspecified group of industry experts to form a judging panel and rated the most influential games of all time. So who makes it to the top of their list? Keep your favorites in mind, then find out on the list below.

 1. Super Mario Kart
26. Pokemon Red / Blue 
 2. Tetris27. Guitar Hero
 3. Grand Theft Auto
28. Project Gotham Racing 4
 4. Super Mario World
29. Super Mario Galaxy
 5. Zelda Ocarina of Time
30. Resident Evil
 6. Halo
31. Ico
 7. Resident Evil IV
32. Chrono Trigger
 8. Final Fantasy XII
33. Gunstar Heroes
 9. Street Fighter II
34. Soul Calibur
 10. GoldenEye
35. Advance Wars
 11. Super Mario 64
36. Ridge Racer
 12. Tomb Raider
37. Super Metroid
 13. Metal Gear Solid
38. Castlevania: Symphony of the Night
 14. Call of Duty 4
39. GTA Vice City
 15. Sonic the Hedgehog 2
40. BioShock
 16. GTA San Andreas
41. Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic
 17. Super Mario Bros.
42. The Legend of Zelda: Link's Awakening
 18. Zelda: A Link to the Past
43. God of War
 19. Gran Turismo
44. Sega Rally Championship
 20. Final Fantasy VII
45. Starfox 64
 21. Pro Evolution Soccer 4
46. Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion
 22. The Orange Box
47. WarioWare Inc.
 23. Lego Star Wars Complete Saga
48. Saturn Bomberman
 24. Tekken 2
49. Crash Bandicoot
 25. Wii Sports
50. Outrun 2


My first reaction was, "WTF?!" While I really enjoyed Super Mario Kart in the SNES days and spent countless hours playing and mastering it, I don't believe it should even be in the Top 10, much less #1. What's Street Fighter II doing all the way down at #9? I firmly believe it made a hell lot more influence than that, it was the springboard for modern fighting games! Then again, that's just me.

There are a lot more titles and ranks up there that I couldn't believe my eyes seeing, but I'm sure you guys have a lot to say about that list. There wasn't any info given on the criteria on which the judging was made. One thing's for sure, I'd like to know more about this group of "industry experts."

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# Why...Xeinix 2009-02-28 17:23
COD4 It isn't that influential. It's the one that is influenced by multiple games. It IS perfect though! :D

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# .........roaddog1088 2009-02-28 17:58
ummm i dont thinks so.... list isnt well made.... alot of good games there.... but how is wii sports ahead of so many games.... i mean come on... and gaylo ahead of goldeneye? i mean seriously... and there was no need for more then one gta listed in there.... but on the bright side.... love seeing gunstar heroes in there... one of the most underated games ever and glad to see it made the list... if you havent played it, buy it on the vc.... money well spent... i would of had it in the top 15

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# smkflammingcowz 2009-02-28 18:11
was the first modern racing game thats why

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# Doom?masta.g.86 2009-02-28 18:18
I see a couple of FPSs on the list, but where the heck is Doom? It's the granddaddy of ALL FPSs. It's the game that originally defined the genre.



Sure, I know some of you will say Wolfenstein3D came first, but nobody even knew about it until Doom came along with all of its awesomeness. People wanted more and "discovered" Wolf3D. Unfortunately, it just wasn't as fun after playing Doom.



Anyway, Doom belongs on the list because it influenced every FPS that exists today.

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# wut?masta.g.86 2009-02-28 18:24
Modern in what way? If anything, Mario Kart proved that racing games didn't have to be 'race from point A to point B'. You could have fun in between by pummeling your opponents.



Then again, Road Rash has this concept too, so Mario Kart isn't even original. It's just a "G" rated Road Rash. :/

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# Yeah....Shatterdome 2009-02-28 18:45
I agree that this is not the best list at all...



It seems like it is just a list of the favourite games of whatever "industry experts" that they chose...



Influential by definition means that the games would have had to inspire future generations of games...



In that regard, I don't think they should have chosen ANY games from the current generation of systems...



I really don't see how Wii sports has influenced any other games....it was new and maybe revolutionary, but so far hasn't been very influential.



Also, yes DOOM should be in the top 5, as it has influenced a decade of first person shooters....



Where is Counterstrike, it is why games like COD4 exist...



Resident Evil 4 was more influential than the original ? Really ? Without the original #4 wouldn't exist....



Same with super mario world, without the original, it would not exist....and seriously, mario 1 should be #1 just because of how it influenced the entire video game market...



gahh, I could go on like this for awhile, but you guys get my point...

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# huhMetal Jody 2009-02-28 18:47
what about Burnout, Crysis, Duck Hunt, Doom, World Class Track Meet, and Turok?

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# i guess not many people had a dreamcastVman00 2009-02-28 18:49
or powerstone would have been up there, also.

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# FF12 BEFORE FF7crsa3000 2009-02-28 18:57
WTF!!!!! That is just Effen discusting!

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# doubtPhoKyo 2009-02-28 18:59
None of them, Maze War was the influence for every FPS, even for Wolf3d and Doom..

Good old times.. anyway..



btw.. Influential in which way?, video games evolution or most remembered ?

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# ...PhoKyo 2009-02-28 19:07
also.. wtf?? 3 gta's ?? Where is Contra, Puzzle bubble, Ultima, Pitfall, Starcraft, SimCity.......etc

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# WHERE THE F*** IS STARCRAFT?!?!?!?smartdude 2009-02-28 19:08
Seriously WTF?!?!

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# AGREEDarkAssassin 2009-02-28 19:09
There is no way FF12 should even be on this list FF7 yes hell before i would have put FF12 i would have put the original FF... What a bogus list someone really doesn't know video games at all or even anything about influential. But whatever we all know which games should be on here and what shouldn't

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# recapPhoKyo 2009-02-28 19:13
"Industry experts" are'nt experts.

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# ???BrockStorm 2009-02-28 19:15
Super Mario has to be at the top. But if we are truly talking influential... where is Pacman? You have to include the games that drew people into the arcades in the 80's (which really started it all). How about Asteroids? Space Invaders? Finally, the Orange Box is not a game...it's a collection that we all appreciate but it's not a game. There's nothing influential about a good deal.

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# Yeah....thefinalhero 2009-02-28 19:22
Halo needs to be bumped down quite a few spaces...taking what shooters had been doing for ages and carrying that experience over to a console isn't that huge of a feat...

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# alright well i think this list is out of orderRayn389 2009-02-28 19:35
FF7 is still one of the most played re played and still bought games...ever!



COD4 is still considered to be top dog shooter



Mario is old skewl but still not as good as sonic



but where is like other people say HALO or Mortal Kombat?



And just to piss people off mario is a *****git XD

SONIC PWNS!

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# no wai!ov3rkill 2009-02-28 19:47
ok. no Shadow of the Colossus. xD

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# we should make our own list..yorbs 2009-02-28 19:57
I think we should put together our own list and combine with other large reputable gaming sites like gamefaqs, to put down the actual truth.



Eg. why is tekken 2 on there and not virtua fighter? I prefer tekken, but it was inspired by virtua.



And where is space invaders? frogger? pong? Captian Commando? after burner.. etc etc..



I don't think it's fair to put in anything new in this list, unless it truly was influential (eg wii sports, wii fit, LBP)



either way, some of the new stuff is so new that it has yet to influence a new gen or games.. so it can't count.. yet.



and when making this list, if your 14 now, you need to get on the wikipedia and do some research! Us oldies know what really influenced what.

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# lawlGuitarHeroGod 2009-02-28 19:58
this list made me lawl.

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# Disgusting and Insultingevilmarshy 2009-02-28 20:18
Was that list made by a 4 year old who thinks he's cool or something. OK, 6 games which influenced todays games and their genre's.



1. Alone in the Dark (Survial Horror Starter)



Without this no Resident Evil



2. Wolf3D/Doom (FPS Starter)



Cmon thats all I have to say.



3. Command and Conquer (RTS Starter)



Made RTS games what they are today.



4. Super Hang On/Road Rash 1/2/3 (These were the biz before granturismo existed)



5. Sonic 2 WTF. Sonic 3+Knuckles (that truley made platform games into adventures)



6. Metal Gear (1988)



Without this I doubt anyone would have thought of this idea because most game developers are full of themselves and up theyre own a' holes



None of the games in this list are influential. None of them. These are just the "experts" favourite games. Yeah the have the write to call themselves experts the stupid f'ng dumb arses.

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# RE4evilmarshy 2009-02-28 20:26
Actually Resident Evil 4 destroyed a genre so that shouldnt even be in the list.



WTF The Orange Box, I didnt even see that. FFS if compilations counting they may have well said "sega collection" (megacd/segacd).

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# .itzzspencer 2009-02-28 21:48
pokemon1?!? wtf did that influence? more pokemon games?

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# lol?dbozan99 2009-02-28 21:51
This list was definitely made by morons, but who says it's in order.



nowhere that I could see stated that this was even 1-100; one being the most influential.



This could just be a (really bad) list of 50 influential games in no particular order. Or, I'm just an idiot....



O well... I really don't care anyway.

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# influenced the "entire" video game marketmr.x256 2009-02-28 21:51
What about Space Invaders and Pac Man?

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# -mr.x256 2009-02-28 21:54
All FPS are basically the same game really. just different weapons and scenery.

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# -mr.x256 2009-02-28 22:00
How could they have left out C+C?



I'm a little surprised that there was not mention of Duke Nukem or Ace Combat.



No Ace Combat + No HAWX.



Where do Solitaire and Minesweeper come in?

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# ....Shatterdome 2009-02-28 22:04
Yup....this list is *****ing stupid is all I can say....



It seems like they didn't even pay attention to arcade games or PC games.....yet failed to specify that it was maybe "console" games, but even then they left out coleco, atari and amiga....which really influenced the idea of getting video games into the home and out of the arcade....than it was Mario bros that cemented it....



Guiness book should still to factual records, that can be measure in distance or with a stopwatch.....stay away from video games....you know ***** all....as do your "experts"

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# naw...Shatterdome 2009-02-28 22:06
You are right....this list sucks major dank on so many different levels....

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# omgandre_euro 2009-02-28 22:11
ff12 was rubbish, dis list is bs jsut cus of that -.-!, ff10 shuda been there lol

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# Reading the source article....Shatterdome 2009-02-28 22:19
The list is made up of only console games....so that's why no doom or CS or tiefighter or what have you....still doesn't explain lack of atari or coleco....



Also the quote below kind of explains their reasoning....although they should rename it from "most influential" to "whatever sells most or gets most recognition by the mediocre public"



"The team said they picked Super Mario Kart for the top spot because it is the best-selling racer on the SNES, the GameCube and the DS. Tetris, a good choice for number two, was selected because it is available on at least 50 different gaming platforms. And Grand Theft Auto holds the record for the most controversial series of games."





Most stupidest logic ever.....mariokart was a different game on each of those platforms......ugh, f&cking idiots....Tetris...although amazing and warranted a spot in the top 5....should not get that spot bases purely on the fact that it's made it onto 50 diff platforms....





By these "Experts" fuxing stupid ass logic....Mcdonalds should be seen as the most influential cuisine in all of world history.....because lot's of people eat it everyday and it's sold in every country. Sorry....I never hear anyone asking for some home cooked Mcdonalds.....

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# what?RoutineCheck 2009-02-28 22:33
Final Fantasy XII before VII. Thats just an insult.



Halo in front of Street Fighter 2. lol



who-ever works at guinness doesn't play video games.



Although some of the choices make perfect sense, others make the list a joke

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# ...Musev 2009-02-28 22:52
Crysis? turok? world class track meet? why??

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# utter pifflepewpie 2009-02-28 23:31
this list is so wank.

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# odd list indeedyoshi314 2009-03-01 00:23
i fail to understand what influence did god of war and ff12 have. they are great games, but by no means influential. i don't see anything that both of them added to the genre that would appear in many other games.



god of war was an excellent game, but it did not invent anything new. it was just very well done, with decent story backing it.



maybe if ffxii had a bit more polish, it would be influential. the game had a great potential be an rpg with a really deep and elaborate story. but somewhere in the half of the game, i started feeling that something was going wrong. the plot pretty much fell apart, many things were left undeveloped - especially the background of each character.



ffxii started off in such a great way. also the entire playthrough (just the main story, not including optional sidequests) was way too short to be enjoyable.



ico - an original creation indeed. but what influence did it make? maybe it inspired okami, graphically?



also tetris - a legendary game, but i don't know what it was that influences other games? maybe if it was considered a "mother of logical games" - then i'll agree.



i have no idea what key was followed to make that list, but it just doesn't make any sense. few games are worth being there, though. but not all of them.

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# I KNOW!iamshadow 2009-03-01 02:27
FFVII(FF7) Was THE greatest game and i am still starting over from disk one to replay through it. i have beaten this game many times and still love it. it should be at least #2.

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# loliamshadow 2009-03-01 02:30
lolz pokemon isnt even that good...

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# Postal 2 Anyone??Cobra 2009-03-01 02:56
How could they forget Postal 2?!

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# what kind of list is this???1ofamillion 2009-03-01 03:05
why is ffXII even on this list...and before ffVII!! they need to switch these 2, and remove the "II" from XII....and like others have said, where is pac man?? another classic that needs to be up there is mortal kombat...Others may think differently, but these are my thoughts...

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# -APerson 2009-03-01 03:05
The list is right. Especially the top 10. Personally I enjoy F-Zero more than Mario Kart, or more than any other racer tbh, but I agree that it started something big with racers. Previously they had much straighter tracks and were all built using a ray-casting like engine. Mario Kart completely bucked that trend.



Though I also think Goldeneye should be above Halo. Even though the singleplayer of Halo 1 was much better than Goldeneyes, and the multiplayer better on Goldeneye.



Many good games on that list. Probably many here won't like it because it's not PSP centric, or even Sony centric.

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# honestlyjoemontana03 2009-03-01 03:11
it looks more like a list of copied games. i supose anyone will argue that pac-man and space invaders just had to be in any list of influent games... though, they werent necessarily widely transformed in random games like tetris was, for example.

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# hm...florinzgtrst 2009-03-01 03:22
i know it's beside the point, but i would give up any other game over god of war

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# My "Expert Analysist" Top 10 No Orderswatmajor1 2009-03-01 03:26
Donkey Kong

Pac-Man

Doom

LoZ

FFVII

LoZ OoT

Super Mario Bros.

Original Sonic

Final Fantasy 1

Grand Theft Auto



Ok, this list IS NOT made by an expert, but a GAMER!!!



I tink this list best refects what games have influenced their future offspring the most. Games like DOOM set up the FPS stage, GTA opened the idea of games beyond obvious fiction. Games like LoZ and FF opened in depth stories their first time around, and opened true 3D for consoles when the time came.



So there's my list, one which the experts will never understand.

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# -swatmajor1 2009-03-01 03:36
No one is saying these games were'nt great games, but people are puzzled over the one word: influential.



Was Final Fantasy XII or Halo THAT influential over games afterwards. Well, Halo I give credit. It spawned several retarded offspring which the younger gen seem eager to soak up into their brains, with results.

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# ..What??Navani 2009-03-01 04:05
Pokemon is AMAZING!! And that isn't sarcasm.. I spent more time playing Pokemon Red than I spent on any two video games combined. Man.. I had Pokemon Red for my Gameboy Pocket.. then I started playing it on my Color when it came out, and by the time Advance rolled around I was using GameShark and exploits to see what I could do!

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# .bradman4 2009-03-01 04:30
cod4 made a kid run away and die i think it is pretty influencial

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# dhush404 2009-03-01 04:47
This list is fu**ed!



Honestly:



Super Mario Galaxy

The Orange Box

LoZ Links Awakening

StarFox 64

PES4

PGR4



Don't deserve to be on the list at all!



and Tetris would beat mario kart all over the place.

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# skitchen !!!TouchDaSkeleton 2009-03-01 04:55
dah da da da da dah nah lol genesis

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# wowDremth 2009-03-01 05:48
great list, but i agree that it seems to be a little out of order. for me, castlevania would be like #3

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# HahaFulminant 2009-03-01 06:15
So, where's Dragon Quest?

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# Who wrote this?nensondubois 2009-03-01 06:19
It's like they let a drunken monkey decide.



Here's my take on 20.



1. Gameboy Gallery 5 Games in 1

2. Animal Crossing

3. Super Smash Bros. Melee

4. Super Gameboy

5. Goldeneye

6. Super Mario Bros. 3

7. Sim City

8. The Pagemaster

9. Star Fox

10. Super Mario RPG

11. Wario Ware Twisted

12. Donkey Kong

13. The Orange Box

14. Spectre

15. Sim City

16. Wario's Woods (SNES)

17. Doom

18. Castelvania 3

19. Earthbound

20. Harley's Humongous Adventure

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# Crysis? turok? world class track meet? why??Metal Jody 2009-03-01 06:22
Because Crysis is super bad @$$

Turok had awesome weapons

World class track meet can help you lose weight (better than a Wii)

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# oh yeah...Vman00 2009-03-01 06:35
what happened to all of the capcom fighting games? remember marvel vs capcom 1 and 2?

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# still...rollypoly 2009-03-01 07:33
no one mentions mortal kombat?



probably the biggest reason we have game ratings now and no one not even QJ users bothers to mention it?



bah...

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# lawlocaustkhaijiao 2009-03-01 08:52
ahahah FFXII ahead of street fighter II. They should rename this list "Games that are pretty good in no particular order"

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# noicekhaijiao 2009-03-01 08:55
Good games, but they're mostly just Nintendo which isn't fair. Though I will say that Harley's Humongous Adventure is *****ing fantastic.

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# This list is...hyperzyph 2009-03-01 08:59
full of fail.

Completely out of order, and some of these don't even belong here.

CoD 4? Who could this possibly be influential to? 9 year olds that played while they're siblings/parents weren't home?

Warcraft, Chrono Trigger, POKEMON, Zelda, Command and Conquer, Starcraft, Crash Bandicoot, Bomberman (Snes and N64), Ridge Racer? Some of these are in here, but they should definitely be considered for the top 10 (or 20). These either started new game genres or set a higher bar.

Only 2 positions I can somewhat agree with are 1. Super Mario Kart and 2. Tetris

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# NO...93pauott 2009-03-01 10:55
Duck Hunt was the first Fps.

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# Soooo.....lixiaochenx277 2009-03-01 11:17
I see they wrote Starfox... I'm quite sure they should replace that -fox with "-craft"; as well as move the listing to the the top 3.



I mean... Starcraft ONLY influenced a whole *****ING COUNTRY!!!! (South Korea, I'm look at you).

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# console not PCxophaser 2009-03-01 11:40
Well Doom roots is the PC and as you can see this list is for console. Not perfect, but a list.

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# watr3quiem 2009-03-01 13:04
uhuh sure. more like, "the top 50 games that guiness record writers are still playing"

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# well..Mr Toasty 2009-03-01 13:15
Pokemon IS huge. It started millions of kids into RPG gaming, and gaming in general.



So many of my friends who weren't gamers bought a gameboy and only ever owned Pokemon red or blue. At least half of those kids still play the series today.

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# FF12? lolSpecht 2009-03-01 13:16
While I agree that FFXII probably shouldn't even be on this list, I find FFVII isn't really that "influential" more than FF1 through 6 which each added it's own to the concept of what FFVII turned out to be. All VII really added was 3D and for most people it was the first FF they ever played.



Actually, most of the titles on this list are bogus. Super Mario Kart was influential, but nowhere near #1. Doom or Wolf3D should've been on the list and higher than Goldeneye(but it still on the list).



Super Mario Bros. should've been higher than World. Possibly in the top 3.



I almost think that they just got a bunch of game devs or game reviewers to say what their favorite games were...

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# Fu*** Up listSolidXnake 2009-03-01 15:16
Games that are copies of games should not be chosen for the fact that those copies are implemented from original games. And where the F*** is Super Mario Brothers and Pacman? Those are original games that influenced future generations. That list is crapped out.

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# wow...anhero 2009-03-01 16:30
comments made in this thread show the lack of gaming knowledge of many QJ viewers. This list is pretty good, and if you've played many games and set fanboyism aside you would know.



Yes, Mario Kart can be considered the most influential game of all time, from influencing the porting many series (some unimaginable) to the racing genre, examples such as Sonic R, Disney racing games, the FF chocpbo racing game, and many others. From giving popularity to the racing genre which wasn't so popular. From popularizing the item/powerup system which is now available in many games. Pioneer in 3d-like racing game. Influencing Nintendo in showing them that they could take their game characters and port them to different game style/genres different from their roots. And really I could name many more reasons why Mario Kart is the most influential game in gaming history.



Many of you criticize Halo but it was indeed very infleuntial. You should all remember that Halo popularized the self-regenerating health bar. It saved a console from complete failure, and because of it the 360 became a market possibility. It redefined online multiplayer experience and has became the most popular online multiplayer game on gamig consoles. It paved the way to giving life to xbox live which influenced sony's PSN (fanboys here forget that).



Also, someone posted that pokemon red/blue shouldnt be on that list. I would have give it a higher spot. It influeced the RPG genre a lot and challenged the linearty of many RPGs of the time. It stole the hearts of many gamers and paved the way to the gaming series that has sold more games throughout history (yeah, over 200 million pokemon games have been sold) and has sported the most games (theres like 30 different pokemon games). It gave the Pokemon series an even bigger popularity than it had befor and helped it turn to a phenomena (even now pokemon is still selling lots of merchandise). It gave the Gameboy Color a big boost in popularity, enough to make it immune to competition in the handheld gaming market (and easily fending off the neo geo color, ect.). It also popularized handheld multiplayer competition and interaction (remember playing aainst your friends and trading pokemons?). Lets not forget it brought the biggest amount of of people into gaming and if it wasn't for that game there wouldn't be so many gamers at all.



Yet, the list is not perfect... I fail to see Ultima, which was the greatest pioneer of MMORPG. Starcraft 64 also deserves a spot, becuz of the way it has influenced the RTS genre. Also, FF12 though influential shouldn't be on that list as I can think of over 100 more influential games. Pro Evolution Soccer 4 shouldn't be on the list either. Doom is missing, and is probably one of the 20 most influential games on all time. I fail to see Metal Gear for the PS1... And Chrono Trigger should be up in the 10 most influential games, not 32...

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# MGSfearlubu 2009-03-01 17:38
is number 13...and i dont think they'd put the PC version as influential

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# LOLDemonsweat 2009-03-01 20:55
I stopped reading when you listed GameFAQs as a reputable site.

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# ordering?yoshi314 2009-03-01 21:30
i didn't even take the order of the games into any consideration.



i mean, you cannot toss a platformer and rpg into the same box, can you? the best way would be to order them in alphabetical order.

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# where the f*** is zeldairwintorres727 2009-03-02 04:35
seriously The Legend of Zelda (1986) should be number one for reviving the videogame market from the crash of 83'.

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# The timelines are too screwed up for this to be an relible opinion to trust.Polybotic Thief 2009-03-02 07:30
How can you say that Halo influenced goldeneye?

this list does it many times.

IMO it is too broad of a catagory and your reteric for assigning numbers isn't provided.

Are we suppost to buy the book?

Oh well...I guess we will just have to talk about it.

Who cares though?

I might if I agreed that the list wasn't crap.

Whose with me?

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# yeahKylBlz 2009-03-02 08:23
Doom really set the theme and gameplay style for all FPS's coming after it. Not to mention the content of the game REALLY shook the entire industry. That should really be on the list..

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# huhblitzlp 2009-03-02 10:47
The only thing Mario Cart influence was how Nintendo does business, namely put Mario in front of various sports titles. Seriously, the only game I can think of that Mario Cart influence was Burnout.



They really should define what these games are influencing, business models, other games, peoples lives, etc.

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# derpGAWDIE 2009-03-02 11:32
Lol Halo

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# Crap list preduced from a laundry-list of recent gamesdamonous 2009-03-02 13:19
First off, joemantana03: if you don't think that Pacman and Space Invaders were "transformed in random games", you either have a very bad memory, or are too young to know. Back in the 80's, those 2 games were copied EVEN MORE than Tetris. Just look at the ROM's available in MAME, to get an idea. There were so many unofficial rip-offs, official rip-off variations, extensions, sequels, etc. etc. ....that it makes all the Tetris knock-offs look like there's room to embellish some more. :-O ...BUT, you make an EXCELLENT POINT: how in the world can the list of "50 Most Influential Games of All Time" not include PacMan or Space Invaders .... or Doom or Quake, for that matter? ....And (really), "The Orange Box" is in the top 50, but not Half Life, itself? ---That's like saying, "Half Life and Half Life 2 sucked balls. But, .... when they wrapped-'em up together in one package with Portal ....now you're talkin' influential!" :-( ...One more thing: how is any serious Gamer supposed to take a list seriously that has "Lego Star Wars Complete Saga" listed at number 23 (*before* Tekken, God of War, Outrun, Starfox, and Guitar Hero --to name just a few) ????

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# Gaylo?....SKUD 2009-03-03 02:20
I never heard of someone killing his parents to play Goldeneye.............

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# WHAT?SKUD 2009-03-03 02:24
I say if anything PONG! To be completely neutral! WTF........I call Bull$hit!

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# this list sucksEugeneE 2009-03-03 14:44
This list is totally screwed up. It should be called 50 Most influential console games of all time.



This comes to show that industry experts don't know what their talking about. In fact, they left out the arcades and computers.



What about these games which were very influential on games:



Pong (jump started the video game industry)

Space Invaders

Pac-Man

Ultima

Wizardry (one of the first 3D games)

Mystery House (first graphic adventure game)

Maniac Mansion (first point and click game)

Super Mario Bros

Wolf3D/DOOM (pioneered the FPS genre)

Alone In the Dark (grandfather of survival horror. Without this game, there wouldn't be Resident Evil)

Bard's Tale (one of the first 3D games to use bitmapped graphics)

Impossible Mission (Commodore 64. One of the first computer games to have voices)



Seriously,



This list is way to screwed up. They only listed newer games and forgot about the older games that changed the game market. One of the only older game listed is Tetris.



I bet you that the industry experts based their list on the sales of the games in the list and not on their influence.

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# yeahAces In The Palm 2009-03-05 00:10
where the hell is doom

oh and xophaser

even though it was on PC first

it was ported to almost system at the time

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# wellAces In The Palm 2009-03-05 00:24
they should take tekken 2 and all the other games that come out on arcade first then later ported to console

they cant omit doom it was on ps1 as well as a host of other consoles

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# uhhh....victorinox 2009-03-06 18:32
i think before we all go, this list is this and that.... i dont even see in what way the influence is based on...



i mean i can see games like Conker, being HUGE on that list... but clearly its based off something very stupid

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# Freeman?popmchnex 2009-03-09 18:04
No love for the Freeman? Where is Half-Life 2 (Set standard for next-gen shooters) and Half-Life (Set standard for games that don't suck.

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