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If the German Government has its way, we could be looking at an EU-wide ban on violent games. It has taken the initiative to the European Commission's justice minsters, requesting for more control over violent gaming across the 27 countries in the Union."A certain degree of linkage between the growing violence among the younger generation and the growing diffusion of violent games exists," said European Justice commissioner Franco Frattini during Dresden meeting last Tuesday.
In connection with their initiative, the German Government announced it was conducting a study of each of the country's rules governing video gaming. The study is hoped to help establish a centralized ruling system.
"The Commission wants to see a combination of outright bans on the most violent games, together with minimum age rules on other titles," Frattini said.
In related news, the Interactive Software Federation of Europe objected to the proposed ban. While they agreed on Frattini's reiteration of protecting children from bad influences, they strongly proposed an age-rating system much like in movies instead of outright prohibition
It will be remembered that Bavaria's Gunther Beckstein had made a similar statement, when he called for the ban of violent games like Counter-Strike and Call of Duty 3 in Germany last year. Consider this your latest news from the country that's brought us Heckler & Koch, Mauser, Walther...
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another interesting statement of this "politician" was: "Playing violent videogames should be punished like owning child pornography". i am from germany and i am ashamed for my gouvernment and their statements.
Sorry but I know its all been said before however,
1) The problem is not the violence in the games, it is that there are no laws to govern the selling of violent videogames to minors. Simply put, BBFC classification should be fully implemented in the same way as DVD's. That would resolve a lot of issues.
2) There is no hard evidence to support that playing viloent videogames turns someone into a violent person. The people who claim videogames are to blame are mostly unstable BEFORE they play the videogames, leading them to enact these violent crimes.
3) It has been proven that in the last 10/15 years, viloent crime by teenagers on the whole has declined, not increased. Most teenagers these days play violent videogames!
If what this madman is saying is true, then the whole of the world would have errupted with teenage viloence years ago. The reason that people commiting crimes due to videogames became such a huge issue, was because it is SUCH a rare thing to happen that when it does, it gets splashed all over newspapers!
in the U.S things like this don't hold cuase of freedom of expression. i feel bad for you guys if this crap passes
They'll be invading Poland next if they get their way across the EU...
Poland is part of the EU for a few years now, so it is already target of that stupid campaign.
I am very embarressed to see the most stupid german politicians gaining momentum in the media. People running this campaign identified Final Fantasy VII as a malicious "killergame" because two stupid 17yo named themselves Sephiroth and Reno while killing (seemingly) out of pure boredom.
I don't get this "logic" at all.
So, what if I decide to call myself Mickey Mouse and then go on a killing spree after watching the Lion King, they will then have to ban Disney??
just cos the two kids decided they would give each other nicknames, bears absolutely no relation to the crime they commited.
My question is "where is the source"??? Think about it if there were no war there would be nothing to model games like COD.
Video games present people with entertainment. Is Germany banning movies like "Die Hard" because of the violence?
I'm ashamed that a free thinking country like Germany wouldn't stand up to their lawmakers and defend their right to entertainment and the right to free expression and art.
I won't join the army to fight for oil but if you try to take my games??? GIVE ME FPS OR GIVE ME DEATH! (:
I'm sure the real problem isn't that they want to ban violent games. They just want no more WWII games !! I can understand that they are tired of passing for the bad guys and getting killed all the time.
Every one know that Nazis are evil, but I think that the 257 games about WWII that come out every years are a good reason for the germans to want to ban them. They just can't say that they just want to ban just the WWII games. They have to be "fare" and ban all of them.
Sorry for my bad english, I'm French...
Wow you might be the first Frenchie I've ever liked...
"Sorry for my biased opinions I'm an American"
This whole arguement pisses me off. I mean isn't there better things to pass laws about? Guns and video games don't kill people, people kill people. Let's throw everyone in jail for being human and the problem will solve itself... (:
they're a bunch of f*cking p*ssies
This is a fact.
But German politicians shouldn't be the only ones to be blamed because it is discussed by other EU-Countries as well.
It 7 other countries exactly: Finnland, France, Greece, Italy, Spain and Hungary.
But as it looks: You will just have to show your ID buying a "Killerspiel" in those countries.
I think working things out a bit better, qj.net could only profit..
Funny how in America violent crime has actually gone down since videogames were introduced...still today they keep falling. I'm willing to bet it's because we are able to let out our frustrations in games instead of keeping them in and exploding someday.
If kids in Europe are doing stuff they see in games...they're probably just really stupid...same as the select few retards in America that do what they see in games.
The UK would never let this pass, im pretty sure we can veto any laws that the EU makes but that may just be with issues of security. Even if not it still will never pass.
here in london no one cares about violent games and im sure the u.s dont either........cough cough...stupid german goverment....cough cough
I guess the Krauts are just pissed for getting their azzez kicked in EVERY FRIGGIN FPS...
I says it would be better for the EU to ban THEM instead!
Here in the UK the politicians still hold a little common sense, which is why I'm all for pulling out of the EU; they want our common sense!
I'd like to see your proof for your statements. I'm not saying you're wrong mind you.... but i'm not saying you're right either.
Show me the statistics in which violent crimes (or any crimes) has decreased due to the introduction of video games in America. Or an article or anything, because I've not seen a single study or article that has a defined connection between the two.
There have been cases where people say they let out their frustrations through playing violent video games but it is also noted that video games are being used to train military forces as well for combat (knowledge given to me by a friend of mine who's job is in the US Military).
Kids are NOT "stupid" for acting out scenes they've observed in video games and/or the movies. They are mislead and confused from the display of example as well as misinformed about how to react to such displays of violence, but they are not "really stupid" as you put it. I'd also like to point out that being brought up in a home that doesn't have, display, and enforce a stable and good set of morals mainly leads to those falling into the trap of relativism when judging right from wrong conduct.
If the people that act out scenes in violent media believe they did nothing wrong, then you can't blame fault completely to the exposed violence... there is more to blame on not being taught before-hand that this violent conduct is not right and in no means is it morally correct to do these things.
Germany has historically been a peace-loving people. They just want to continue to share the freedom and peace they have been known for especially in the last hundred years. *insert sarcasm*
lol i bet the germans are sick of WWII fps's because you have to kill them in every game >_>.
I'm not sure about Call of Duty, etc, but I know for a fact that it was illegal to sell Return to Castle Wolfenstein in Germany.
Either way, I really hope this doesn't affect Australia, if it passes. You know, us being PAL and all...I feel sorry for the Germans, in this case.
yours is also funny...Hugh Mann......
Oh, and your comment was pretty funny.
Here is a summary of your commentary free of charge:
Blame the parents.
I'm not blaming parents, I'm blaming the kids' upbringing as well as our established culture. A lot of children don't know their parents or don't even live with their parents and thus don't grow up in a stable environment.
It's become socially acceptable recently (as in the past decade or two) for gruesome acts of violence, gore, sex, rape, crime, and anything else that's bad to be displayed or carried out on public access cable, movies, and of course.... video games. None of this would ever have happened if a certain group in the USA wouldn't have kept using the controversial issue of "freedom of speech" as their arguement. Mind you that freedom of speech can be a good thing, but most of the time it's abused towards the side of secularism and only causes corruption... not correction.
When you put these two factors together (violence in media and relative-moral upbringing), kids acting out what they witnessed isn't that hard to comprehend. More of the blame might be on their upbringing, but there is still a whole lot to blame on the corrupt media as well.
please get some distance to that germany -> ww2 crap.
the politicians just need some quick answers for the mistakes of the system. lots of germans are under pressure cuz they need their job. the social system isnt as good as it is exhibited. this pressure makes them work longer, the kids are at home and watch tv or play videogames.
no one cares about them because everybody is on his own.
and then some mentally weak kid freaks out. why?
simple solution: "evil games". censorship the only solution. until the next teenage mass murder commences.
must suck to live in europe now