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Gabe Newell: Gamers smarter than publishers

Posted Oct 17, 2008 at 5:34PM EST by Glenn M.

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Videogames galore - Image 1Gabe Newell, managing director of Valve, has made a lot eyebrow-raising comments through the years, more particularly the ones about his stand on console game development. Here's his latest quote from the Game Informer:


It seems by and large that gamers are incredibly smart; the average gamer seems to know more about what makes a good game than the average person at a publisher.


It's true - gamers are smart. In many ways, no one really knows what a gamer wants out of a game better than a gamer. Haven't we all gone, "It'd be better if..." at some point while playing? Whether it's a bad camera angle, crappy in-game dialogue, or unreasonably hard-to-get items, we all have our ideas as to how to improve a game.

It's nice to see Gabe Newell recognizing gamer intellect - especially since he's a publisher (being a gamer too sure helps). He ought to use that recognition more when bashing consoles, though.




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# wowfearlubu 2008-10-17 18:57
Gabe pointed the most obvious ish out



"the average gamer seems to know more about what makes a good game than the average person at a publisher"



really? cause we play the damn games. why did u even make an article about this? should this article be about what a dumbass this guy is?

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# Agreed.Techni 2008-10-17 20:14
Apparently gamers are smarter than Gabe Newell

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# ..kraft 2008-10-17 20:28
yeah well it might be obvious to us gamers, but i do think it was something that needed to be said..most publishers are hopeless and seem to think that every game needs online capabilities etc.



games seem to be lacking depth these days and rely on online play to make the game sell

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# About timeCactuar Knight 2008-10-17 21:09
Somebody finally noticed!

Yeah obviously the gamers know more about what kind of games would be fun - we pay to play them!

In fact, I've got more than enough game ideas/designs in my head to take over the gaming industry lol.

Anyone else want to join forces and start a new development team?

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# hjklOverlordXenu 2008-10-17 21:58
I didn't expect to see Game Newell here.

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# okdazmo 2008-10-17 22:21
lets do it.

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# well.ShadeyProphet 2008-10-17 23:00
judging by the pic, he may be right.



dude seriously needs to watch his carbs.



as funny and or rude as that may sound....

dude looks like he could fall victom to a stroke any second now...



i suppose that would be "my" eyebrow raising comment "as of late"

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# ...Silver-Tiger 2008-10-17 23:06
count me in, too.

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# Bullsh**WiiRolled 2008-10-18 00:10
Nowadays, most SHOULD have online capabilities!

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# Gabe can talkDave 2008-10-18 00:35
Gabe certainly doesn't know what I want. Fixed bugs, FIXED BUGS. AHHHH valve doesnt fix anything unless it looses em money.

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# they should but....darky89 2008-10-18 01:41
@WiiRolled

Yeah they should, but not at the expense of a decent single player exerience or functions for real friends. Too many games come out now that don't have 2/3/4 player split screen...i don't know about everyone else, but i miss the days of golden eye and mario kart.

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# rock and roll!rebel101152 2008-10-18 02:09
im in too!

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# ughhush404 2008-10-18 02:37
Wish someone would run that fool over.

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# you betdbzking 2008-10-18 03:10
u see the publisher game makes the game with many errors but instead of complaining we find a way to make it fun such as glitching. and some even etc.

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# FOURTH!StingBlah 2008-10-18 03:40
.

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# I'm a PS3 ownerc74gta4smash 2008-10-18 05:23
...so you know how much hate I have for this jerk.

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# Duh!mike_jmg 2008-10-18 06:25
This is obvious, but publishers don't realize that



Also Gabe Newell should know we like consoles and stop bashing them

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# yupApeaggedon 2008-10-18 07:46
count me in as well.

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# Well yaHekynn 2008-10-18 07:48
Hell ya we are! We can spot out the bugs and ask dev's to tweak them out of the game hehe.

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# Since when did game publishers play games?ajnauron 2008-10-18 07:49
They just design them. Artists.

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# oh really?NarooN 2008-10-18 08:47
I could have sworn the artists were the developers themselves.

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# lmao ..The Weatherman 2008-10-18 10:32
someone give Captain Obvious a cookie.

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# Well...FatTrousers 2008-10-18 12:05
Judging by his multiple amount of Chins, i'd say he's had enough cookie's, maybe if he'd gotten off his fat ass sooner and put those pies away he'd have noticed he's stating the obvious.

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# Gabe Newell has obviously...RexNox 2008-10-18 12:41
never played Warhawk.

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# ....vannk 2008-10-18 14:36
This guy is Fat ....XD LOL

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# ,jamiestepanian 2008-10-18 14:49
LMAO, nicely said, I completely agree

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# amazing.shabghai360 2008-10-18 15:24
This guy deserves more cookies for stating the obvious.

It would have been more interesting if he said what he was gonna do about it.



we all know war is a bad thing but so far no one has found a way to stop it.



By the way he also bashes Apple for not helping him sell more games.

Also If he doesnt like consoles he should consider making one? There are plenty of gamers here who like what they have already, we are just waiting for devs to give more games we enjoy to play.

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# You know whatSuperQuest 2008-10-18 16:45
why don't you just STFU Newell ... stupid dumbass !!!

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# Agreed completelyMaster Chef 2008-10-18 21:08
Most of the best games the past few years have no online whatsoever. Bioshock, Mass Effect, Oblivion, etc.



If a feature is cobbled together and half-assed, and brings down the quality of the game as a whole, that will come back to bite publishers. So why do they do it? They need to wake up



Unless if course your game has 50 Cent in it, that whole game is garbage yet has sold millions. Same for Army of Two and Kane and Lynch, horrible games all around with terrible online modes, but millions in sales. They are the exceptions however



Also the Newell hate found above is getting annoying. Is it because he dislikes your PS3? Deal with it. The man has made some of the best games ever, he could also hate the Xbox for all I care, and only make games for PC. So long as he keeps making games

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# umSpawnx777x 2008-10-18 21:42
for him its called bein obese

he looks like a ****in fatass zombie, i bet he is sayin in his head "i cant wait to go home and watch some hentai"

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# Dunno much about Valve...WiiRolled 2008-10-18 23:03
...but I gotta say that Team Fortress 2 and their support for it rocks.

Valve brings out so many updates for Team Fortress 2 and it's all for free.

That's what I call a good publisher.

But I heard that they aren't so attentive to their other games.

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# Stfu JabbaTashy P 2008-10-19 02:06
Gabe should shut up for once, hes made a few great PC games but should stop being a *****y ass. hl1 and 2 are good, but get over it. So is Zelda which was on consoles. He cant take that PC gaming is dying and his PS3 port of TOB was dire.

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# Yeh!!!tobyo1 2008-10-19 02:39
Let's do this,

(After I learn to become a programmer) lol

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# no *****PS3 OUTSIDER 2008-10-19 04:07
well were obviously smarter cause we decide who gets our hard earned cash for what games we choose to buy a bit of a no brainer this one.

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# LMAOsage3k 2008-10-19 04:17
My Friend has that T-shirt!!

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# nice answershabghai360 2008-10-19 04:31
indeed money talks.

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# I have an opinion, but you will not like it...kittykat 2008-10-19 07:27
If we, the gamers, are smarter than why are we still purchasing lacklustre games that receive a fair bit of hype?



We vote for games with our dollars, if we purchase bad games then we are telling publishers that we will purchase bad games and love it.



THE SOLUTION (for those who have read this far): TRY BEFORE YOU BUY. You can rent video games at video rental stores and test them, or download game demos when they are available. Some web sites, like www.gametrailers.com, happen to feature trailers for new games so you can get a feel for what to expect in the game. Not that I condone piracy, but if all else fails you can resort to downloading the game through file sharing and then either purchasing or deleting the game after playing through one level.







ALSO, A NOTE TO THE PUBLISHERS (don't worry, this is not offensive)...

Perhaps you should publicly ask the gamers "What would you like to see in our next video game?" That question alone will give you a lot of new ideas and help you to create the next best seller.

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# ^mr_bigmouth_502 2008-10-19 08:32
That's a great idea!

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# ...Musev 2008-10-20 00:33
That port was by the "great" EA

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# Jack Trettonlogicbomb.de 2008-10-20 04:55
has obviously never player Hanna Montana on DS.

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# FinallyNevers 2008-10-22 06:37
I fig'd out who that pic reminds me of.



Denis Nedry



Wayne Knight's part from Jurassic Park

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