ESRB's response to the Manhunt 2 re-rating issue

Posted Aug 28, 2007 at 2:10PM by QJ Staff Listed in: News, Titles Tags: CCFC, ESRB, Leland Yee, Patricia Vance
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Manhunt 2 - Image 1After Leland Yee and CCFC's (Campaign for a Commercial-Free Childhood) demand for an explanation why Manhunt 2 was re-rated to Mature - despite the fact that Manhunt 2 was already modified to fit the standards - ESRB now decided to break its silence and released a statement regarding their decision to take off the Adults Only rating from Rockstar's controversial game.

Here's an excerpt from the statement of ESRB's president Patricia Vance:

Upon reviewing the modified version of Manhunt 2, the ESRB assigned a rating of M (Mature 17+) with content descriptors for Intense Violence, Blood and Gore, Strong Language, Strong Sexual Content and Use of Drugs. This is a very clear and firm warning to parents that the game is in no way intended for children. As always, we urge parents to strongly consider the ESRB rating in their decision about whether a game is appropriate for their children.


Publishers submit game content to the ESRB on a confidential basis. It is simply not our place to reveal specific details about the content we have reviewed, particularly when it involves a product yet to be released...


It is a parent's rightful place to make choices for their own children. The ESRB and console manufacturers provide families with the tools and information to help them do so."


So there you have it, straight from ESRB's Vance herself. She does make a good point in saying that its up to the parents themselves to regulate their children's games, and they are already given sufficient aids to make sure that the kids play with media appropriate for their ages, such as child locks or password protection.

What do you guys think? Do you agree with ESRB's official statement? Hit the comments button below.

Read Vance's entire statement in the Read link!

Via Joystiq

 
 
 

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by Oldschoolgamer - 2007-08-28 09:35
» Sounds good to me....

Her comments sounds more than reasonable to me.

Glad she mentioned it because in the end YES it's

up to the parents to decide and regulate the content their children are exposed to! I am SO TIRED of everyone expecting the government or industries to make the parental decisions and I am really tired of the banning or editing of content to appease such people, I as an adult should decide what I want to see or be exposed to, as long as it's rated then that is ENOUGH!

by Dartan - 2007-08-28 09:39
» Good!

Sounds like a good reply to me. Hopefully this will end ALL the MADNESS!!!

by Nauraushaun - 2007-08-28 09:39
» Agreed

Do we care? Nah, I think most of us just want Manhunt in our PSPs. I agree though, it's up to parents, and it's not right that the general gamers, the ones in the correct age bracket miss out because of the risk of bad parenting.

by mr john - 2007-08-28 10:05
» AMERICA....F()CK YA!

AMERICA....F()CK YA!

by yes - 2007-08-28 10:10
» Ditto!

" I am SO TIRED of everyone expecting the government or industries to make the parental decisions and I am really tired of the banning or editing of content to appease such people"



I'm very happy that the ESRB is not bending over backwards in their response to the CCFC. I agree wholeheartedly with you oldschoolgamer. Kids need to be taken care of by their guardians and NOT by the government or corporations.

by hellodentist - 2007-08-28 10:16
» Great...

Whoa!? Is the ESRB cool now? It must be. "I've been into the ESRB for years now."

Pretty much I agree with everything anyone else said, I had nothing better to say.

But I am glad that we are going to get to play Manhunt 2.

I actually had it reserved and cancel my reservation the day before they announced the new rating. Haha.

by abizzle - 2007-08-28 10:31
» content

anyone know what was taken out?

by dsf - 2007-08-28 10:33
» sdfds

*****ing reactionists, let the parents control and take responsibilty for what their kids play, and let people who are adults make their own decisions on what they want to view, the government are basically saying what we in the free world are allowed and not allowed to view.

by Dan - 2007-08-28 10:41
» hi

maybe nothing....haha

I dont thik rockstar would chop up theyre own game too much....not to worry, it'll be great

by Ninja2507 - 2007-08-28 10:44
» Agreed

I agree with you as well.

by NovaMan XP - 2007-08-28 11:12
» ...

"This is the land of the free, however you can't do that, or that, or even that."



Yeah, sure is freedom. >_> I'm really starting to hate the people in my country.

by matt - 2007-08-28 11:16
» this is absolute BS

seriously, why the hell should they TAME the game for a rating??? JUST STICK A DAMN R 18+ on it and adults will buy it .. SCREW the kids.. seriously.. its NOT for them.. NEVER was intended for them.



Why should we suffer?

by XyZZy - 2007-08-28 11:29
» Re: this is absolute bs

same rason you don't see many (or about ANY) NC17 films in theaters or most places where you can buy movies, or AO games...anywhere. many retailers simply don't carry those games due to lack of demand or for "good part of the community" image status.

that being said, the difference between the M (17+) and the AO (18+) rating is one year, and i'd be surprised if the line between those two ratings isn't blurry.



that being said the reason ESRB is "stingy" about releasing what content was changed is because most companies have extremely tight NDAs to prevent game content they don't want leaked from leaking prematurely.



a lot of this comes from the fact that the ratings and the enforcement of the ratings isn't actually very controlled, in fact it's entirely voluntary (in the US anyway). the reason most stores hold up the policy is to keep their image.

by passion of the manhunt - 2007-08-28 11:31
» Kids see worse on the internet/news/passion of the christ every day

What a non-issue this is

by ahh - 2007-08-28 12:00
» FREEDOM!!!

Atleast the people in your country haven't kidnapped, killed, maimed, harvested, or destroyed you. Be happy +D, and enjoy Manhunt 2!

by Jesus Man - 2007-08-28 12:53
» I agree

They should have just left the game alone as an Adult Only title. We suffer because of BAD Parents!

by Jesus Man - 2007-08-28 13:00
» I agree

but it all started with the winy brits saying they won't allow it into their country. Then Jackass Thompson and the the LAME ASSed CCFC. They all jumped on the band wagon, screwing us all in the long run. If it was AO before, obviously it wasn't meant for children but that didn't stop the communistic extremists parents and organizations from trying to get a little media coverage while taking our rights away even though it was never intended for their little communist children who will no doubt fallow in mom or daddies extremist foot steps.

by Jay Arsonist - 2007-08-28 13:27
» ...

In america we have a little thing called "Freedom of Speech." Which also applies to non-speech such as movies and video games as defined by the supreme court case United States v. O'Brien. This means that this can be sold and nothinng can be done to stop its sale, even if it was AO. For those of us who are under 18, this is good for us because we can just go in and buy Manhunt 2. Jack Thompson and the ESRB will ultimately fail. And about these "child locks and password protection," I am currently working on a homebrew app to disable this without the password, so all of us can enjoy games like Manhunt 2.

by meh - 2007-08-28 13:27
» ..

Meh, people like taking the line 'land of the free' straight out of context too much.

by lavino - 2007-08-28 14:34
» because....

selling 10x more to all the kids can feed you longer than selling 1x to all the adults only...

by Perry - 2007-08-28 15:18
» Thats why parents are here...

Like they say, It's the parents fault if their children have or obtain a copy of Manhunt 2 (Which we all know will kick so much ass). Back off companies. Manhunt 2 got its M rating and its staying like that.

by screw those muthafcker kids - 2007-08-28 18:15
» stupid no brain parents

fCK YOU AMERICANS OF FCK,FCK YOU AMERICA

by ... - 2007-08-28 19:26
» ...

It's called go to change password and put four zero's in to reset the password.

by aldostools - 2007-08-29 02:08
» M? hahaha... ESRB took money to change the rating...

"M (Mature 17+) with content descriptors for Intense Violence, Blood and Gore, Strong Language, Strong Sexual Content and Use of Drugs" that sounds "Adult Only" to me. I wonder what Rockstar "removed" from the game to get M... bet instead they "added" money behind

by mohaas05 - 2007-08-29 02:10
» thank you

thank you ESRB for pointing ppl in the right direction. everyone thinks its the governments responsibility to protect their children from violence, etc. Its the Parents responsibility! If the parent can't do something as simple as taht they shouldn't have kids.

by mohaas05 - 2007-08-29 02:14
» thank you

thank you ESRB for pointing ppl in the right direction. everyone thinks its the governments responsibility to protect their children from violence, etc. Its the Parents responsibility! If the parent can't do something as simple as taht they shouldn't have kids.

by Mike - 2007-08-29 04:49
» Parents taking responsibility?

Yeah right... Parents are so god damn lazy nowadays, they want society to raise their kid for them but they want it done the way they want it without doing any of the work involved. Screw these conservative pricks.

by . - 2007-08-29 11:58
» .

Fail.

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