DS Heats Up, PSP Cools Down |
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The gaming community has choices these days that were pretty much unheard of a decade ago. Lucky for all of us, we have a lot of options to choose from. There are a lot of gaming platforms out there, but only two seems to be really slugging it out in the game handheld arena: Sony's PSP and Nintendo's DS. How do we measure them against each other? Graphics? Number of games? Let's try sales figures!
Remember the saying, "A picture is worth a thousand words?" we say, these stats show a million! All sales figures are as of July 30, 2006.
Nintendo DS
Japan - 10.3 million
US - 5.8 million
Europe - 6.2 million
Australia - .2 million
Canada - .4 million
Worldwide - 22.9 million
PSP
Japan - 3.9 million
US - 5.1 million
Europe - 4 million
Australia - .15 million
Canada - .4 million
Worldwide - 13.37 million
What does that mean for the game market? People are willing to try on a game handheld that is considerably less in the graphics department but high in gameplay and innovation part. We see a paradigm shift towards gameplay as opposed to high graphics.
Hopefully, after seeing this, Sony will do something either to the present PSP or the future one. Nintendo will have to continue with being innovative and creative in its gameplay or they'll lose their customers. Either way, us gamers will always win. It's a beautiful world after all.
Thanks to Sttrangler for all the work of compiling these figures!
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1st!!!
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Oh yeah I do
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That said, I've played a few games on the PSP that truly kick ass. Syphon Filter, Daxter, Valkyrie Profile, Breath of Fire, GTA, XMEN, Tales of Eternia, Popolocrois...
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PSP - perfect sony play
DS- dumb s**t
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Lolz
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Thats my two cents. If you dont agree you can go to hell.
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I have been saying this for years and so has nintendo. People who buy solely based on graphics don't always get good games. Not to say that neither the DS nor the PSP has terrible games! They BOTH have terrible games.
Why doesn't anyone realize this? Instead, they base their arguments on graphics and how powerful a system is. Who cares? Its the GAMES that make the systems! The PS2 is the weakest system (anyone who argues this is gonna lose) out there, but it has some of the best games out there!
The DS and PSP have great futures, and I am one of the lucky few that can have a taste of both sides and enjoy the greatness that each provides. Its really sad that some people can't look past their own ego's and look at the real issue at hand.
Both are great systems, get over it. Instead of wasting your life arguing different.
Game on!
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These numbers show the complete opposite. Doesn't make much sense. Just look at VGcharts.org and you will see completely different numbers. I am not saying VGcharts numbers are correct but I am 100% positive the numbers you are posting are incorrect.
Actually IGN reported 20 million PSPs shipped while the DS has shipped 21 worldwide (YES SHIPPED):
http://uk.psp.ign.com/articles/725/725264p1.html
Also please note that the DS had a huge advantage in time. They have one extra Christmas (both the US and UK) and a few months on top of that head start. Everyone knows sales are about 10 times on christmas than any other time. If you go by this you would realize that the PSP is selling faster worldwide than the DS has.
If the PSP drops in price this holiday season, prepare to see it taking off leaving the DS in the dust. Not that they will take DS customers, since the PSP is a completely different market, they will just do great with sales.
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I do bet that a large percentage of the DS owners are 15 and under though at least in the United States though because I hardly ever see anyone else with them, they usually always have a PSP.
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Or, just maybe, did you ever think that some people can't afford a PSP? The DS is much cheaper. I have many friends who wish they had a PSP instead f their DS, but they couldn't afford it at the time.
You guys sure put a lot of thought into this one. Morons.
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i do have both of them, but I leave DS to my friend and take PSP with me always because of it's functions
better sound better video, usb, wlan, homebrew. and a game or two..... that's more than enough for me.
i'm not the game-only type.
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also DS sells more cuz of DSlite, if a "psp-lite" comes out(from the rumors) them it will sell more!
kids in japan are obsessed with nintendogs, that made DS sell so much, just like pokemon boosted GBC/GBA sells.
**PSP aint a piece of ***** like nintedophiles say....i think nintendo is full of crap and just rehashes its Gameboys and doesnt really improve anything, DS still has the most crappy graphics, always 2d games, no analongs or multi-media features.-------yet ppls say psp is crap!!LMOA
i think nintendo fans get ripped off from all the crap gameboys out there.(i cant beleive i had a GBC and then bought a GBA afterwards.....i stopped after that cuz GBAsp was gay and many ppl got it...waste of money!!LOL)
even though the psp titles might not be as "fun" as DS games is cuz developers, not sony so stop saying *****..ignorant fools.i love luminines, but dont see it on the DS do you?plus the only reason the DS games might be "funner" is cuz you just read text and click on 2d stuff all the time which ppls that are young or really old enjoy!!LMAO!!!p sp is for teenager and above not little 12yr olds that like pokemon.games like syphon filter or daxter for the psp arent capable on the DS and are a few of the best handheld games out there.
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Wrong! I buy for me and my decision to purchase doesn't depend on how many retards are buying something. Top 10 chart music is also popular but crap, just like the DS.
Besides, 13+ million is an excellent effort for a first attempt.
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Waa waa waa, DS is better, no the PSP is.
Grow the ***** up, you're arguing over game systems.
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#10: Thank you. You made me laugh out loud XD I think you were being sarcastic, but someone already replied if you weren't. DS sold 227,369 in Australia according to that and PSP sold 145,345. Well, that's up to June 4th anyway.
http://ds.qj.net/DS-One-Ups-PSP-Down-Under/pg/49/aid/56058
#17: Actually, it's a proven fact that the DS fanbase (at least in Japan, not researched in USA) contains much more 30+ year olds than the PSP
#21: Actually, the PSP and DS launched at the same time in the country the DS is doing best in - Japan. It's the other countries that PSP launched later in. Also, wouldn't be hypocritical? The GCN and Xbox launched a year after the PS2 but they don't get the same excuse? Prices and launch dates are strategies for better sales. Sony can't make excuses, it doesn't change their situation.
#23: The DS has homebrew too. There has been homebrew since the days of the GBA. I think even the GBC had homebrew.
#24: VGCharts is wrong in this case. I know for a fact that Nintendo DS sold 21 million a while ago. I also know that the PSP has shipped 20 million (but only sold around 13 million as shown above). The numbers come from NPD, Media-Create, ChartTrack. The DS sells more in one week in Japan than the PSP does in one month in the USA (its strongest market). I don't think the PSP will be taking the lead anytime soon. And again, the Christmas thing is not an excuse. It doesn't change the situation Sony is finding themselves in. They're still almost 10 million units behind their biggest competitor. The DS Lite sold 196,000 in Japan last week. PSP sold 40,000. How do they make up for that to get more third party support?
#30: PSP isn't dead, and no one has said that. You are the one who is thinking about that. However, UMD sales are MUCH lower than DS cart sales. The best selling UMD game in the USA last month was NCAA Football at 49,000. Six DS games sold bewteen 50,000 and 300,000. DS software is doing much better than PSP software, believe me. Flash carts aren't too expensive either.
#31: I don't know where the user who submitted those numbers gets his numbers, but the USA and Japan numbers are right. Australia is right up to June 4th. Not sure about Canada. DS sold at LEAST 5 million in Europe so that may be right, not sure.
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I sold one PSP, and the guy brought it back after a week,
because it was too difficult to play on it for his 12 year old son.. (he bought a PS2 instead)
PSP is way much more than a gaming console..
pspupdates proves this every single day..
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As for the: "It's cuz its cheaper duh" argument, then GC n64 etc, which wer emuch cheaper hardware then psx/ps2 shoudl be dominating too..guess thats another argument u had thats gone down the drain
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also you sony fanboys realy crack me up. when xbox came out you made fun of it for being big and now defen ps3 for being big. you said graphics dont matter when xbox fanboys raved about their machines power now you do the same with the ps3. then to top it all off you guys are spitting out the obvious, that ds is cheaper so it should sell better but then on the x360 side of things you make fun of it for haveing worse sails that ps2 even thogh the price difference is even greater. bunch of hypocrits.
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i picked up Mario 64,Feel the Magic,and Madden 05...
if it wasn't for feel the magic,i would have been disappointed,Ma dden was okay,anyone who played the psp Maddens got the same crappy game for the 06 edition...with slightly better graphics.
Wario,Mario Kart,Metroid,Ne w SMB,and a few dozen more games made this system stand out,and now you have final fantasy 3,a new pokemon,basical ly a good mixture of games hitting the shelves over the next few months.
With the psp we have Vice City (the GTA era is dead,why this game didn't have online escapes me)
you know what,i wanted to point out the good and bad of both systems,but my suggestion is to get both,you'll go back and forth on playing them...when i got my psp i played that untill a few games caught my intrest on the ds,sadly emulation seems to take up my psp alot,but Socom is great.
so,get both ya cheap bastards!
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I can understand why Nintendo is selling more, they have a previous installed user basewhile the PSP does not on the handheld end. Also without the DS-lite, i think these sales wouldbe a little closer by a few mil(personally)
now a rant that will trail off due to doing tomany things at once.... ignore it
Also go into Walmart and look at the selections... see somthing odd with the psp? All the good games are usualy missing, they have the sports games, ps2 ports, and crap games that are stereotypical of the ps2 crowd on display. While the DS selection has alot variation in its selection. Walmart as usual is lacking in their research and puts out what they think will sell, the stereotypical *****s, and wont take chances. By putting everything in the same crowds for each system, their hurting the psp while helping the ds.
By the way ever try out the ds in any game store or walmart? they dont work right 99% of the time, they have cracks, touch screen doesnt work right, ect. The psps work fine, sure they have old ass demos in them but i see them played more usualy.
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That has very little to do with it.
Nintendo was always the top leading handheld provider. People trust them. The DS is quite a heft amount cheaper. It also suits CHILDREN much better. You do not see young children with PSPs as often as you do with DS. PSP is expensive and adult oriented. DS is inexpensive and fun to play with for all ages. Its a travesty to compare such great devices when they both serve such different purposes.
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By the way, I'm assuming these figures were taken from one of my topics on the GameFAQs boards? ;)
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Nintendo's had been the only one in the handheld biz for a long time, so it's great to be in second place...although second place was always open for the taking.
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PSP fanboys, why can't you admit defeat? will there be no proof that will make you admit that the DS is supreme among the handhelds? why must you keep arguing and accept the facts.
- Kiddie system -
I am almost 27 years old, definately not a kiddie, and I'm going to buy a DS Lite soon, so stop with that "kiddie system" crap, an overly graphic-loaded FPS does not make an adult game, I enjoy at my age all the fun and addictive games that the Nintendo had throughout all of its systems.
- Game-only system -
One of the many misconceptions is that the DS is a gaming only device while the PSP is a full media system, well, ever heard of Flash carts? if not, google for M3, Supercard, EZ Flash IV, DS-X and you'll soon realise that the DS can do all those things as well, emulation, organizer, mp3 playback, eBook reading, movie playback, ScummVM (Day of the Tentacle anyone?), even an FTP server, drawing software, IRC client, and many many more with an active homebrew scene.
In closing, the PSP is a good system, but it is most definately not better than the DS, it's a good effort though.
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the PSP has sold 13.37 million units, *WITHOUT* undergoing a redesign (ie, the DS Lite).
most of the 14 million people that bought the original Nintendo DS, have bought a DS Lite, thus beefing up Nintendo's numbers over Sony's.
when or if Sony releases a PSP redesign, expect PSP sales to jump, as those 13.37 million who own a PSP may consider buying a PSP "Lite," especially if they are big homebrew fans, and want to keep their original PSP at whatever firmware they are using (i myself will probably get another PSP at some point, though it's mainly for my fiance. since she doesn't play emulators, i'd just upgrade hers with firmware updates and play all the new games. lol).
both handhelds are great, and cater to their specific markets.
also, the PSP not having any good games is getting pretty old, especially since the quality of it's games have been going *UP* since it's release. the problem with coming out of the park hitting home runs (DS) is that the only real place to go is down.
look at the new Star Wars game being made specifically for the PSP and DS. it's enevitable that the developers of that title will be able to get more out of the high power system than the underpowered system, in terms of gameplay, and or features. i'm not making a prediction saying that the PSP version will be better because of it's horsepower, but that the developers working on that version have a bit more room to work with due to it. it's all up to them, however, in how they use it.
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Software sales do not reflect the hypothesis that people are rebuying their DSes.
Software sales do not reflect the hypothesis that people are rebuying their DSes.
Software sales do not reflect the hypothesis that people are rebuying their DSes.
Software sales do not reflect the hypothesis that people are rebuying their DSes.
Software sales do not reflect the hypothesis that people are rebuying their DSes.
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Also, the PSP had 3 sections! One at the front with the games, another in the middle with games and systems, and then one again, in the back, with UMD movies! Much more shelf space then the DS and stuff.
Anyway... onto the more general subject.....
People need to stop freakin out, the PSP is selling a prefectly normal amount, the DS is just... selling a abnormal amount.
And people who say only kids and stuff play the DS, well, back in high school I saw alot more 17 year olds or so, playing the DS (Ahaha, me included there...) then I did the PSP! I only saw one other person besides me with a PSP! Or something like that... either way... and these went people who couldent afford it, at my high school, I swear, more then half the people there had Ipods ya know, FAR from being poor people....
I also must say this, the reasons the PSP isnt doing AS well, which is lack of games and other small issues, is a real reason, in fact, if it wasnt for the fact that I first got a PSP as a Psudo replacment for my MP3 player, since ya know, it was a rather big upgrade, I would have to say that originaly I used my DS more for their respective purposes originaly...
Though, now 3 PSPs later, and finaly a 1.5, I use my PSP much more then DS, though for gaming, I still prefer DS, which is whats important to the selling factor...
And ummmm... huh, I think I have ranted long enough.... hmm.... >>;;
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One of the many misconceptions is that the DS is a gaming only device while the PSP is a full media system, well, ever heard of Flash carts? if not, google for M3, Supercard, EZ Flash IV, DS-X and you'll soon realise that the DS can do all those things as well, emulation, organizer, mp3 playback, eBook reading, movie playback, ScummVM (Day of the Tentacle anyone?), even an FTP server, drawing software, IRC client, and many many more with an active homebrew scene.
wrong. The DS is a gaming only device. People call the psp a media device instead because when it ships, it has the ability to play songs, videos, pics, and games. with updates it can web browse to. The DS can't do this and even updated it still can't. you have to buy external devices to do it. I can get my ti-83 to play music, but that doesnt make it an mp3 player(really cool though)
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DS = PSP
Yes I own both
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PSP is the best hand held system made to me, and I don't care what others think.
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Oh... and I hate innovation! a touch screen? for a gaming device? no! I want to do the exact same thing, I don't want to start exploring new ways of interacting with my games, that's silly, I might end up having fun... and that would detract from watching the awesome graphics...
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also you sony fanboys realy crack me up. when xbox came out you made fun of it for being big and now defen ps3 for being big. you said graphics dont matter when xbox fanboys raved about their machines power now you do the same with the ps3. then to top it all off you guys are spitting out the obvious, that ds is cheaper so it should sell better but then on the x360 side of things you make fun of it for haveing worse sails that ps2 even thogh the price difference is even greater. bunch of hypocrits.
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such as console emulators and iso loaders
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Because it's exciting, but at the end of the day, we are all gamers and we love each other.
I wish the only war in the world was the DS vs. PSP war
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On the DS, there's no need for that. It's a 100% gaming device, and Nintendo is working its A55 off to make sure the games are fun to play. That can NOT be said about Sony, they've forsaken the PSP a long time ago - again, probably because they realized the homebrew community runs the show now.
I own both, and I don't regret buying any of them. But the DS has better games.
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i only see a first portable device are third behind Nintendo in the share of the market.
No pb for me i own both consoles
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the figures stated in the article are incorrect, the correct figures are stated in the articles linked to in the preceding.
the 13.37 million figure was probably a joke by the ds fanboy that sent in these numbers.
i really dont care because i have a psp and dslite.
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Figboy: Sorry. Your DS Lite is selling because it's new argument doesn't fly. Software sales that increased DRAMATICALLY after the DS Lite launch shows that people were waiting for the Lite to come out before making their purchase. If they had a DS, they'd have already bought games like New Super Mario Bros. and Brain Age before the Lite launched. A PSP redesign wont' do that well because the PSP looks great (visually appealing) as it is. The old DS was ugly as sin.
maverick990: You're misinterpreting the numbers. DS numbers reported by Nintendo are SOLD, as in SOLD to consumers. PSP numbers reported by Sony are SHIPPED, as in SHIPPED to retailers/warehouses. PSP has sold 13mil/20mil shipped. DS has sold 21mil/XXmil shipped.
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Here's the reason why DS has a larger sale figure.
The primary demographic for handhelds is for kids. Kids enjoy playing soft games like Nintendogs. Hence, the DS is more attractive than the PSP. The PSP is more geared for adults or mature people.
For example,
ratio of kids that play video games: 1:1
ratio of adults that play video games: 1:2
So, if there are 20 million kids, that means 20 million DS sales. If there are 20 million adults, that meants 10 million PSP sales since the other 10 million adults don't play video games. This is only a simple example, but this is how the handheld market share operates.
There you have it.
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psp has got some good games, and others are on the way, it'll probably do good business this holiday and next year...
the ds is cool, and i want one, but only having games i have to buy isn't cost effective for me, i had to have homebrew... and the psp homebrew scene is truly amazing, just look at amazing apps like irshell or snes9x... awesome.
yeah, i don't like the animosity between the fanboys, but this article is simply pointing out that ds has done better than psp... it may not be ACTUALLY better, but that's totally subjective.
one thing, take away japan and it's very close (i have always advocated that japan is the most important region, and perhaps here we're seeing the 'future' of gaming...)
the japanese have embraced the ds like it was their next of kin.
you know, the most important part is that BOTH systems are selling pretty good, so neither will go down the pan, and both sides of the argument will not have wasted their money. try to be nice people.
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What a load of bull*****. So you mean by this that in PSP games there's no gameplay whatsoever? Gameplay opposed to graphics? So you can't have both in any game? This is just that old tired Nintendo fanboy rhetoric...
How about some unbiased blogs for a change?
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comedy, you can have homebrew with DS too and play free homebrew, emulation, etc... with devices such as the supercard and the m3
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yeah ds has homebrew, but it can't do what psp can... and there's a stupid amount of psp homebrew out there, everything your heart could desire... AND! the psone emulator... the moment i heard there was a possibility of homebew on psp i thought psone on the move....
that's all.
i have bought 2 games for psp, i broke one... it's all homebrew for me.
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* The reason it doesn't matter for the Xbox and gamecube is because their generation is completely dead meaning there is no way they can catch up. Sales from those machines have stopped almost completely.
* When you are talking about the start of a system's life and when it's getting most of it sales you have to take into account time. Japan is the only thing keeping the DS much higher than the PSP and that is simply because of one type of game. Brain Age. This has cause a tremendous amount of demand for the DS in Japan and the top 5 games in Japan usually have 3 brain training games. Hardware revisions also matter. The DS fat was very poorly designed and looked like crap compared to the much sexier psp. Many DS fans had to rebuy their hardware just to not be shame of carrying one of these things.
* I like to point out is that PSP and DS are being compared but the DS is not getting the market Sony is targeting. Most people who want or have a PSP would not ever consider a DS.
* Homebrew on the DS is like homebrew on the PS2. Is almost non existent.
* If you dominate the Top 10 sales, it does not mean your machine sells more software. It means you have a few titles that sell really well. The PS2 currently sells about 30-40 times more software than the DS and 360 but it sometimes hardly makes the top 10.
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who here would say no to a free ds? or psp for that matter? we all want a gaming machine, just mostly we have budgets and have to try to justify choosing one system over another by putting the other one down. be cool, guys
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So, what are you looking for that the DS can't offer you in that department?
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OMFG h@xz0rs Lollolkrofl PSP is 1337 cause it gots 13.37 sales and it r toly betar cuse DS is fer lil kids LOL. PSP is fer teh ub3r cool people lolololo. DS design r teh retarded. DS sales r teh ub3r fake cuse the DS lite were released and it r made all nintendo fanboys buy them lol.
Or this.
DS isn't fer kids, PSP is teh gay cuse it's gots no good games cuse it r multimedia platform. DS gots all good games whil PSP gots teh gey games cuse it gots only good grafix cause it r teh gay. Innovation is ub3r aw3some and grafix r fer retards lolololk ROFL.
I do see tho that it's mostly psp fanboys that have 4 or 7 word posts saying PSP r way bettar. End of story.
Each system has their strengths. DS has a larger demographic to go to (cause of their non-game games), and innovative gameplay. Innovation isn't always good because some developers mess it up. It has more good games at the moment, but a lot of them won't appeal to the normal casual gamer that only plays sports games or GTA . It's also cheaper.
PSP has multimedia capabilities, a seemingly more developed homebrew community, and has good graphics. It also has the games that a niche of games gamers already come to know and love such as sports games, GTA, and some good console games on the go.
It might not be balanced, but I tried to make it balanced. Both systems have their strengths though. It all depends on your priorities for buying a handheld.
I'll also clarify some things. DS isn't for kids. PSP DOES has good games. Graphics are still worth something. PSP had the PS2 fanbase to go off so sales are NOT UNFAIR. I'll say it again.
DS isn't for kids. PSP DOES has good games.
DS isn't for kids. PSP DOES has good games.
DS isn't for kids. PSP DOES has good games.
DS isn't for kids. PSP DOES has good games.
Graphics are still worth something. PSP had the PS2 fanbase to go off.
Graphics are still worth something. PSP had the PS2 fanbase to go off.
Graphics are still worth something. PSP had the PS2 fanbase to go off.
Graphics are still worth something. PSP had the PS2 fanbase to go off.
Did I say these enough times? Damn, all of the fanboys are just saying "My handheld is better lol. Since I said it's better, it must be better lol OMFG lololololo hAx!"
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*I was merely saying that GCN and Xbox fanboys could use the same excuse but it would mean absolutely nothing.
*Since the software drought for the DS ended (Nintendogs started the end of the drought), DS has been consistently outselling the PSP in many parts of the world. Brain Age and Nintendogs started the DS sales in Japan. Now games like Animal Crossing and New Super Mario Bros. are showing that there's more room for "real games" as people call them. And like I pointed out before, although people re-bought the DS Lite, a vast majority of DS Lite owners never owned a DS. NSMB sales tripled with the DS Lite launch. That alone should show you that people buying the DS Lite aren't necessarily the same ones who bought the DS. I have a DS and have no intention of buying a DS Lite.
*That's what lots of people say and it's damage control - plain and simple. The same goes for Wii/PS3/360. They're all competing for gamers and they know it. Seeing all the GBA owners who split into PSP and DS, they're obviously going for some of the same market. The gaming market.
*Homebrew on the DS is existent and it's alright, but obviously no where close to the PSP. I'd say the DS scene is comparable to the Xbox scene
*The DS software sales are still better than the PSP sales. Especially in Japan where the PSP has as software tie-in ratio of 1.xx.
I don't think the PSP is dead. I'd say it'll go through this handheld generation just fine. However, is has completely failed to live up to the expectations of all the gaming publications that expected it to trounce the DS.
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psp can also do that stuff, a tiny bit more, and has the potential to do rather more... i am mostly playing gba emulator (with roms i don't own the original to) and snes emulator... and i'm very excited by daedalus.
also, just a few days ago psxp was announced (psone emulator),
yeah, ds has some games i sorely want to play, but psp also has some games i would rather miss if i had a ds instead. with devhook, and admittedly i have downloaded some illegal iso's :( ... i have played some real gems, lumines, burnout, tekken, every extend extra, loco roco, ridge racers, everybodys golf, wipeout pure, gta... and some otherrs....
basically, i want everything for free, and i get more for free with psp than i would with ds.
your points are valid, and i don't disagree, i want a dslite, but i made my choice and i don't regret it. psp ftw!
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I was considering buying either a DS or a PSP but I'll probably go for a cheese sandwich at the end... yummy...
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LOL, do some research before you troll.
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so i think you have it the wrong way round, psp hasn't trounced ds like publications predicted, and this is because ds has succeeded, not because psp has failed. it's a crucial difference, and one i feel ought to be highlighted.
ds was a risky venture, nintendo chose well and succeeded, but the risk was that no one would want to play that kind of system and they'd lose the one market they currently own.
what's more, psp is not down and out yet. of course ds has some delights left for us, but psp COULD go for redesign, and who knows that might work... it will have the psone emulator, and perhaps most important to me: there's mgs portable ops (i totally love mgs) and final fantasy 7 crisis core (i totally love the ff series too).
psp is probably going to be around for a while, lets remember sony have been rather busy with ps3 lately, and they'll be really stressing the importance of buying ps3 and psp come this christmas. i know nintendo are doing the wii, but it's not going to cripple them if wii doesn't work out.
yes, ds is winning but i don't feel like a loser.
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Game Gear was kinda like the PSP, but it failed pretty quickly. I'm not sure exactly how it worked. I remember having a GG and a GB when I was younger. Sonic
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PSP = Pricey, Sh***y Product
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I hope this won't happen to the PSP as I think it's a good system, Nintendo seem to be crushing every competitor, I feel sorry for SEGA, I love their games
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That DS Lite is lookin mighty fine right about now...
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PSP = Pillow Scientist Pile
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I got both consoles and I only use my PSP for homebrew and my DS for games - infact the only reason I bought a PSP was for the homebrew. For the PSP2, we'll just have to see if Sony steal... I mean think of new ideas to make it as good as the DS.
Oh and for 103, your friends made a wise decision by trading in ;).
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PSP = Powerful Sexy Prestigous
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and there was always the gimp in the corner who had an atari lynx... lol... on the advert it showed how you could link 4 together or something, but it seemed that there were so few lynx's in the uk that finding 2 lynx's in close proximity was a statistical impossibiliy...
gamegear had some cool stuff, it was better than gameboy but it ate batteries like there was no tomorrow, 6 AA batteries would last less than 2 hours...
then it had that tv attachment, now that was cool.
as i recall GG was more expensive than GB and there were so few people who actually played games back then that there was only room for one handheld on the market.
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DS = Divine System
PSP = Pretty Solid Portable
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DS market is composed of people younger than 12 years old. One of you said (don't remember who) that the market here (Japan) is composed of 30+. Well, you are totally wrong there. The people over 30 who buy the DS usually only own ONE game: Brain Training.
The people who buy DS are children, nostalgics and people who can't pay a PSP. Also Japanese people are very loyal to Nintendo. I've always liked Nintendo myself (not that I'm Japanese)
Anyway, both machines are great in their own way and people saying that PSP games are crap and blah, blah are just bind and stupid fanboys.
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I own a DS, but that's just my preference, I don't think the PSP is a bad system, my friend has a PSP and she loves it
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PSP has greater technical function.
FACT.
DS has greater variable input via touchsreen.
FACT.
DS is outselling PSP worldwide.
UNDENIABLE FACT.
Everything else is opinion, and quite frankly I DON'T GIVE A DAMM IF YOUR PENIS IS SMALL OR YOU THINK THE DS IS FOR 5 YEAR OLDS OR THAT THE PSP SUXXORZ.
Leave that for recess.
Thank you all who have remained rational.
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Nintendo churn out kiddy crap, if you want to impress a little boy with intent to sexually molesting him then get a DS. If you are straight bred hetrosexual then you get a PSP.
Very simple.
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each of those sales were 1 psp or ds to 1 person (not someone who owns like 5 psps and 2 ds's)
thats
75% of australians own a psp
10% of austalians own a ds
that proves that all ds owners are GC's (gay c**ts)
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The DS is awesome, the PSP is too. CLEARLY, the DS is better at games, because DS is ment for games. PSP is also for games, but many other features, so it's better in features. It's not our fault Nintendo is dedicated and doesn't want all these other features like Sony.
Uh, does 13.37 = 1337? Nope. You guys are saying Nintendo is for kids? Look at almost everyones grammar and ***** above who is dissing the DS and saying its for kids. YOU guys look like little *****s nothing better to do than to go on this and comment about stupid *****. Also, your Math is directly horrible as *****.
A decimal in 13.37, is different than 1337. That's the lesson for today Sony fantards.
So before any of you Sony fans bash the DS, (I'm not saying DS fans are totally innocent, but here it looks like Sony fans are just little *****in nerds wanting to get sales up, while their discouraging people like me not to ever buy a Sony product), think about how you guys act.
DS is kiddy? No way. Sony PSP is kiddy? Probably, look how the people who BUY the SONY PSP are acting.
Kids..
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is this a typo or does worldwide mean the rest of the world or the total of everyone in the world (including usa, europe, japan, aus. etc)
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Sony fantards are the kids.
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The PSP has SOLD more in the US, and Europe than the DS, but this sales comparison says otherwise. NPD says so. So I don't get why whoever did this even bothered.
If your going to make sales comparison, at least get it right!
And yes, I'll trust IGN, who gets their figures from NPD. Both consoles have SHIPPED 20+ million units. Thus, how could the DS have sold more than the amount shipped. This kinda proves this comparison is bull. PSP will sell loads more when games like Killzone, Metal Gear, LocoRoco, GTA, and 50-Cent (yes, it will be in with the crowd)...
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The PSP has SOLD more in the US, and Europe than the DS, but this sales comparison says otherwise. NPD says so. So I don't get why whoever did this even bothered.
If your going to make sales comparison, at least get it right!
And yes, I'll trust IGN, who gets their figures from NPD. Both consoles have SHIPPED 20+ million units. Thus, how could the DS have sold more than the amount shipped. This kinda proves this comparison is bull. PSP will sell loads more when games like Killzone, Metal Gear, LocoRoco, GTA, and 50-Cent (yes, it will be in with the crowd)..."
But..50 Cent blows..with his game and as an artist. Just because Sony said that the PSP is outselling the DS by 1mil...doesn't make it true. Metal Gear isn't even the most well known franchise except to those who've played it. The average gamer would most likely not recognize Snake. But seeing Sony Fanboys pulling out of their asses. Is just ridiculous.
"i think said it before, the market for the PSP is mostly people that wouldin't buy a handheld before, so it will take a few years to grow a new market of the age group buying PSP's. as the DS already has the 5 to 13 age group well covered, and from the years of nintendo running the gameboy family, thay have grown a huge market in that age group. and i think thay should keep with aiming thare cuase we always have kids that want to play games"
No. This is a good example of out of the ass Sony fanboyism. They see higher sales as a threat. My god that couldn't anymore immature than it already is. Your age group is completely off. Dear god..
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Logic, NPD data shows that DS is ahead of the PSP. Search "Monthly US Sales" on the search bar and include the quotations. You'll find the data there. DS has outsold PSP in every part of the world so far so I don't know where you're getting your NPD data from.
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and sales don't acully prove wich is better.
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DS Lite on the other hand, is a masterpiece that fell from heaven. Great original games that are good to go(taco bell slogan).
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interview from gamespot today with kaz.
GS: Right. Now you mentioned the PSP hardware. Now obviously there have been rumors about a PSP hardware redesign. Will Sony have any news on that front anytime soon?
KH: No, right now we're comfortable with what we have. I mean, you probably have seen some of the numbers that were included in the Q1 earnings report from Sony Corporation and as far as the platforms go. Between PlayStation, PS2 and PSP, the PSP happens to be the fastest-growing product we've ever launched. I think we cleared 20 million units worldwide within the first what, about 18 months or so. And in the US, we've already cleared 5.2 million.
http://www.gamespot.com/news/6156046.html?tag=latestnews;title;0
if you think there are 7 million psps sitting around in warehouses collecting dust you are stupido supreme.
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(PS3 + Xbox 360 + Wii = The Best!!!).
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(taken from my original GameFAQs topic on PSP General)
http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs9/genmessage.php?board=984&topic=29975006
From: Typhoid Larry | Posted: 8/16/2006 10:53:57 AM | Message Detail
DS
Japan - 10.3 million
US - 5.8 million
Europe - 6.2 million
Australia - .2 million
Canada - .4 million
Worldwide - 22.9 million (shipments: 23.7 million)
PSP
Japan - 3.9 million
US - 5.1 million
Europe - ~4 million
Australia - .15 million
Canada - .4 million
Worldwide - 13.37 million (shipments: 20 million)
DS+PSP Japan: http://vgcharts.org/japweekly.php?date=38928 (DSL 165,000 last week)
DS+PSP US: http://vgcharts.org/usamonthly.php
DS Europe: http://www.nintendo-europe.com/NOE/en/GB/news/article.do?elementId=xZZe1-VBn8vtPg1xXaOuW1cBrYLfZllB
DS Lite Europe: http://www.nintendo-europe.com/NOE/en/GB/news/article.do?elementId=JvFzofS6ffU8V0PrOkzRJXbrMdkR24AG
DS+PSP Australia: http://www.aussie-nintendo.com/?v=news&p=3594 (as of May)
Last confirmed PSP European number (2.44 million) in December: http://palgn.com.au/article.php?title=DS+and+PSP+sales+in+Europe&id=3897&sid=1afff0d1d2ab837c8133bb4cc64a1b87
Sales have slowed significantly since then - PSP software has gone from >10 games in the top 40 in the UK on average to just 2, for example. 4 million is a reasonable estimate.
Canadian numbers are based on their statistical tie & the Canadian market being a tenth the size of the US market.
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Right.
That's one Giant Enemy Crab taking Massive Damage, Kaz Hirai.
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6mil vs. 4mil in europe, well the psp is more than 1.5x the price of DS so that's fine..
also yeah there is the matter of the ds lite to consider..
US is pretty much equivalent. 5.1m vs 5.8m.. not much diff.
sony are just losing out in japan...
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Everyone, stop arguing. Whether the DS or PSP is better is just a matter of opinion. Can't we all live in peace?
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DS = Dumb-ass System
PSP = THE BEST IN THE WORLD.
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Mods, you can now close this thread.
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so thats fact? those numbers are all from vgcharts which rushan implicitly says are wrong in post #39.
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VGCharts is wrong in this case
Rushan S. (QJ. NET Staff)
rushan make up your mind dumbazz. you post numbers and say they real, then turn around and say they bs.
oh, and rushan, your post in #81 is pure bs.
You're misinterpreting the numbers. DS numbers reported by Nintendo are SOLD, as in SOLD to consumers. PSP numbers reported by Sony are SHIPPED, as in SHIPPED to retailers/warehouses. PSP has sold 13mil/20mil shipped. DS has sold 21mil/XXmil shipped.
nintendo numbers are NOT sold to consumers. they are sold to retailers. nintendo has been using the sold moniker for ages trying to make people think they are to consumers when they are not. look at nintendo financial reports and you will see the discrepency between ninty sold bs #'s and npd numbers. again if you think there are 7 million psps sitting around you are stupido supremo.
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how come marioo doesn't say much even koopa, princess, lugi, toad, wario. hippe im mario or its me mario lame phrase that is too short. put more dialogue into ds games. i don't even know how zelda talks. can't talk a little more. in psp i get pics, videos, games, music, and everthing else. plus nintendo takes alot profanity and nudity away even people who are older. cartidge are boring also. psp is still going to be first not ds to have psp tv at home. nds is for tikes who can't grow up. grahics are lame on ds i mean 3d. wii is not strong enough to big. oh yeah i hate nintendo music irrating. wii looks like a hard drive that too small. trust a lot of people have bought expensive ipods for $200 for a 2gb i rather have a psp. tu8ck mario all the up all ready. sonic is way cooler, metal gear, devil may cry, final fantasy. no blood in nintendo or nude
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how come marioo doesn't say much even koopa, princess, lugi, toad, wario. hippe im mario or its me mario lame phrase that is too short. put more dialogue into ds games. i don't even know how zelda talks. can't talk a little more. in psp i get pics, videos, games, music, and everthing else. plus nintendo takes alot profanity and nudity away even people who are older. cartidge are boring also. psp is still going to be first not ds to have psp tv at home. nds is for tikes who can't grow up. grahics are lame on ds i mean 3d. wii is not strong enough to big. oh yeah i hate nintendo music irrating. wii looks like a hard drive that too small. trust a lot of people have bought expensive ipods for $200 for a 2gb i rather have a psp. tu8ck mario all the up all ready. sonic is way cooler, metal gear, devil may cry, final fantasy. no blood in nintendo or nude
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how come marioo doesn't say much even koopa, princess, lugi, toad, wario. hippe im mario or its me mario lame phrase that is too short. put more dialogue into ds games. i don't even know how zelda talks. can't talk a little more. in psp i get pics, videos, games, music, and everthing else. plus nintendo takes alot profanity and nudity away even people who are older. cartidge are boring also. psp is still going to be first not ds to have psp tv at home. nds is for tikes who can't grow up. grahics are lame on ds i mean 3d. wii is not strong enough to big. oh yeah i hate nintendo music irrating. wii looks like a hard drive that too small. trust a lot of people have bought expensive ipods for $200 for a 2gb i rather have a psp. tu8ck mario all the up all ready. sonic is way cooler, metal gear, devil may cry, final fantasy. no blood in nintendo or nude
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how come marioo doesn't say much even koopa, princess, lugi, toad, wario. hippe im mario or its me mario lame phrase that is too short. put more dialogue into ds games. i don't even know how zelda talks. can't talk a little more. in psp i get pics, videos, games, music, and everthing else. plus nintend
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Your second post is irrelevant as I've already stated before that PSP has shipped 20 million units worldwide. We're talking about sales here, not shipments.
I only referenced to VGCharts.org once. Not twice. Not everyone who disagrees with you is me. Anyway, the one I called false was because it was used improperly. The chart linked to before was on SHIPMENTS. It's also out of date seeing as PSP and DS have both shipped more than that.
No. You're mistaking Nintendo for Sony. Sony exchanges sold for shipped all the time. That's where your confusion arose earlier. Nintendo usually states when they're using shipped and sold. Why? Because when we compare Sony's PSP "sales" to numbers by official sales tracking companies (NPD and Media-Create for example), they do not add up. However, when we compare Nintendo's sales to official sales tracking companies, they DO add up.
If you can't understand that people ordered too many PSPs thinking the demand was going to be higher, then you've gone nuts. Nintendo had to freeze GCN production for a bit because of the same situation a few years ago.
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Excelent Words!!
(but the FanBoy Virus kills all reason.. they don't listen... never do... ).
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How the hell can anyone think that a stock PSP is actually better than the DS? Load times, battery life and most importantly games available. There hasn't really been an epic PSP game that has defined the PSP and made it stand out yet. Now look at all the games available for the DS.
And what's with the DS is for kids? People play games to have fun. What, you don't want to have fun? Do you want realistic graphics and gameplay and multimedia? How about gtfo of the house and live REAL LIFE (because well, that's as real as it can get) and leave the games for people who ACTUALLY enjoy them.
No wonder the DS is slaughtering the PSP.
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I agree that the touch screen kind of sucks, but anyone I know would rather play Metroid Prime Hunters with a touch screen than some crappy PSP FPS that requires you to manuver with a plastic nipple-thingy or the least comfortable D-Pad ever created!
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77. » GOD I'M SICK OF THESE
Is everyone one here blind??? The DS is a new system compared to the PSP, THEREFORE unless it is a complete POS it will outsell the PSP. BUSINESS 101. That's doesn't mean the PSP is "losing", why don't you make some goddamn charts of TOTAL SALES OVERALL and see how many of each are out there.
by Jesus H (Unregistered), at Aug 18, 2006 at 02:34PM
heres the second one:
33. » tards
sales doesnt mean its better, it means it sold more. DS sales are better simply for one reason. Because its cheaper. But keep in mind you get what you pay for. You can either have a mini PC, or a 2 screened N64. You can either get a 30 dollar mp3 player from walmart, or get a iPod from bestbuy. it al depends on how much money youre willing to spend. Be cheap and get cheap sh*t, which is what DS is.
by heh (Unregistered), at Aug 18, 2006 at 11:57AM
DS is cheap ass stuff with low capability nomatter how much it sells, it still dosen't prove DS have better performance, psp can even emulate mac 8.0 at a good speed, can you DS do that? at VERY low speed probably, it just proves DS is CHEAP and LOW IN PERFORMANCE, and it proves it's fans are cheap, also, I've seen SO many dumbass DS fanboys/fangirls running around blabbing about how "good" ds is.... those dumb kids have 2 GBC, 2 GBA a GBASP and a DS and a DS lite, Nintendo sure know how to rip kids off nowdays... I guess PSP owneres(wiser adults) won't be out buying so many psp just cuz they love them so much, also because it cost way more...
Oh well, I'll leave you Nintendo die hard fans buying EVERY unnecessary handheld and bankrupt... why did DS suck? because nintendo wanted people to buy it then offer everyone DS Lite, and make a quick buck... Why the hell do you need all that crappy equipment for GBA? cuz nintendo wanted to rip you all off, it could been built in! also whats the purpous of GBA SP??? smaller and better? hahaha losers..
I swear... dumb kids and their desier to own a DS...
also heres another reason DS outsells PSP:
17. » because is cheaper...
DUH!! This article is DUMB!. OF COURSE! the DS will sell better than the gorgeus PSP. Because is way cheaper than the PSP and people like cheap because they are poor bastards. And because the handheld basicly dedicated for kids. There are a lot of kids out there and parent would buy the toy for them
Thats my two cents. If you dont agree you can go to hell.
by PSPDUDE (Unregistered), at Aug 18, 2006 at 11:32AM
Also.... Both system have SUCKY games.. well in my opinion PSP games are better... the metroid for DS SUCKED BALLS.... come on.. what kind of game is it? yeah ofcourse the graphic sucks... but the gameplay isn't much at all either... in the other hand, PSP has got a lotta potential that SONY and its dumb 3rd party friends aren't exploring... only Rockstar did their homework...
Nomater what, PSP outperform DS in every way possible, damn 3rd party lazy greedy losers....
Cheap DS and its Cheap fans...
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Oh OH *click click* omg I shot him! with a touch screen! oh oh wait! another enemy that looks exactly the same! *click click* omg I missed! darn! its so small on this small touch screen I can't hit it!!!! oh oh wait *click click* I got him!
20 min later:
Darn! I'm bored! I'm tired of clicking at a screen so I hit enemy that looks the same and run through linear levels that have no extra features, lets play Nintendogs! .... omg it crapped.... aww lemme take care of that...
10 min later:
Skew u dog.. ur annoying, stop barking, I can't even pet u
10 min later:
oooo I can run Mac on my DS!
OMG is too slow.... I wish I had a PSP
heres me playing my PSP and GTA:
OMG I SHOT HIM WITH MY MP5!
10 min later:
awwww... tony's mom threw him out and sent assasins after him! so sad! O well I'm gonna blow all ur heads off!! muahahaha!
10 min later:
oh im on QJ, wow look edisoncarter cheat device!
10 min later:
OMFG I AM IN AN AIR BASE!!!!!! HOLY CRAP NO COP CAN GET ME HERE
another 10 min:
OMG my dude's invisible! and hes creating a giant ball of cars and killing people with it! holy crap!
even more 10 mins....:
ooooooo "car's deathtrap" lets try it, hahahaha they are all stuck!
yeah... another 10 min later...:
U cops can't catch me if I fly with my car! hahahahaha
10 min later:
ooo another mission!
20 min later:
*turns off GTA*
OMFG this game rocks.... big city, so many cool mission, nice cheat device.. ahhhh
*runs PSPR anime edition*
OOOOOO im getting better at this
10 min later:
*using bookr to read "harry potter" while listning to my favorite song using IR shell while in car*
yet another 10 min:
*using AFKIM to instant message friends while at a mall using wifi, then uses the notepad to jog down that sweet game's title*
end of the day: damn... psp is so useful.... ds sucks
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Megaman Maverick Hunter X
Dragon Ball Z Shin Budokai
DarkStalkers: The Chaos Tower
Street Fighter Alpha 3 Max
Daxter
Tekken: Dark Resurrection
& now...
DS:
Castlevania: Dawn of Sorrow
Lost in Blue
New Super Mario Bros
Super Princess Peach
The Rub Rabbits!
Trace Memory
Yoshi Touch & Go
hhhmmm... I like two systems... have games on both... weird... that has a game.. oh yes.. A GAMER.
Gaming... it's more than just a hobby -- it's a lifestyle
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The numbers in VGCharts are Media Create and NPD data increased by less than 5% to make up for either of them suddenly tracking too high or too low years earlier (like Media Create tracking low in 2001 and too high a year later, resulting in higher reported GameCube sales than actual shipments). The differences between the two systems are well outside this 5% margin of error.
"nintendo numbers are NOT sold to consumers. they are sold to retailers."
Nintendo numbers are shipped to consumers (24 million). Media Create, NPD, and the various European trackers that they use to report SOLD data are sold to consumers (23 million). I have been following sales since before the PSP was even launched here, I know more about this than you.
"nintendo has been using the sold moniker for ages trying to make people think they are to consumers when they are not. look at nintendo financial reports and you will see the discrepency between ninty sold bs #'s and npd numbers."
Yeah, Nintendo of Japan financial reports (which report, you know, retail shipments) are the same as the European division's reports of SELL THROUGH numbers (which report, you know, data from European sales trackers). You're doing a great job of making yourself look like you have no idea what you're talking about.
"again if you think there are 7 million psps sitting around you are stupido supremo."
Except, you know, there ARE 7 million PSPs sitting around in retailers. There's about 400,000 retailers that sell 'em in Europe, America and Japan combined..and 18 PSPs isn't too far off from a usual shipment to a single store.
(in before yet another denial of factual numbers using sketchy sources and not the actual sales tracker data)
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Originally posted by Jessman:
This is why I hate Sony! You bastards won't STFU for one minute to think logically!
Haha thank you.
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Can you guys shut the ***** up, no one cares for Christmas, birthdays, price, teh DS is pwning the PSP. SHUT THE ***** UP NOW. GO CRY YOUR SORRY ASSES AWAY and STFU.
No more excuses thx. Glad i sold my psp, which = Piece of ***** Portable.
Sorry DS is winning, go cry to ur mommies now. U guys care so much about sale rates that u guys have to make up pathetic excuses and *****, it's *****ing sad. shut the ***** up thanks.
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-Nintendo relies on ideas
-Sony and Microsoft relies on Graphics
-Nintendo relies on what people want
-Sony & Microsoft relies on trying to win
-Nintendo wants to make people feel the experience of the game
-Sony PS3 stole the idea of the Wii freestyle capability
-Microsoft wants to be on the top
-Nintendo thought or a new invention of a controller, that has over 10,000 diffents ideas you can do with it.
-Sony only took their original dual shock 2 controller and cut the wires out and put in the Wii's Feature that they stole.
-Microsoft same ol' plain controller
-2006 Wii is smaller and only need less technology and still remains competetive
-2006 PS3 is GIANT! which needs more and More Technology involving their so called Graphics.
-2005 Xbox 360 Decreased their Size of Technology needed.
RESULTS:
NINTENDO in first place
MICROSOFT in second place
SONY in 3rd Place
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. His ridiculous stupidity is the cause for this editorial. In the words of Popeye, the sailor man, "that’s all I can stands, I can’t stands no more."
For starters, who does the president of Nintendo think he is to make comments regarding the current market or what is going to happen to it? This isn’t one of the leading companies in the console market. This is one of the distant, distant companies in the current console war, with absolutely no hope of catching up. This is the company who used to own the #1 spot with an iron fist, strike fear into other companies. Let’s be honest here, Nintendo is a shadow of its former self. For their president to comment on the industry like he is Miss Cleo, is like Vince McMahon commenting on what it takes to be successful in the professional football business. It’s like getting marriage advice from Tom Arnold. You are to take everything with a grain of salt. But wow, these comments are just beyond inane. Former president Yamauchi Hiroshi said some stupid things in his time but Iwata’s comments just take the cake and prove Nintendo is just too far behind the times. Let us discuss some of Iwatas stupidity.
He said unless things changed people "would get tired of games".
Yea, because we all know Nintendo is about complete change. I mean, one look at the "newest" Pokemon or Mario Party 542 can tell you that. Apparently it is ok for Nintendo to re-use the same franchises for 20 years but everyone else must innovate or die. Gaming has grown through each generation. Was there a significant difference in gaming besides graphics in the 8 to 16 bit leap? 16 to 32? 32 to 64? 64 to present? No. Oh wait... YES, there was. Sony used a CD medium in the PSone and Nintendo refused to adapt. The PSone could also be used to play CD’s, the Nintendo 64 could only play games. PSone games were $40-50 new, Nintendo 64 games were $60-70 new. Sony won. In the leap from 64 to the present, online gaming has become a big part of the industry. Which two companies utilize this feature? Sony and Microsoft. Which two companies are currently leading the US market? I’ll give you a hint: one of them isn’t Nintendo. Just like they did with the cartidge format, Nintendo dropped the ball with the GCN. Only this time they made two crucial errors. The first was neglecting online play completely. Oh no my bad, they didn’t neglect it completely. I mean, after all, they did make broadband and 56k modems for the GCN. Too bad they’ve yet to include a use for them in a single one of their games. The other area where Nintendo failed was multimedia. While Sony and Microsoft were expanding to components of the home console including the DVD players and hard drives and what not, Nintendo opted for simplicity. Great move!
"Some of the people in the industry still believe we can simply beef up the current technology in order to provide a constant supply of games to people. We don’t agree with that."
Apparently he hasn’t been involved in gaming since... oh... the *****ing day it was created. What is even funnier about this is that he goes on to hype up the DS based on what? Two technical features, touch screen and voice recognition. Neither of which are really innovative anyway. Hell, Seaman on the Dreamcast revolved around voice recognition. But this is Nintendo we are talking about. Wind Waker had innovative graphics, even though it was only the hundreth game of this generation to use cel-shaded graphics. Animal Crossing was innovative, because apparently no one had ever seen or played Harvest Moon before. Metroid Prime was the worlds first FPA, because apparently games like Half-Life and Deus-Ex do not exist. The point? When Nintendo does something, they sell it as new and innovative and they have enough of a blind army that it is eaten up and believed. What else could explain the fact that Nintendo fanboys constantly ***** about PS2 having too many sequels, and then they go back to playing Mario, Metr
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"Nintendo wants to bring gamers and games back to the start line of 20 years ago," he said.
"In order to do this, touch panel and voice input systems will have big possibilities."
How could anyone possibly think touch panels and voice recognition are going to wow gamers? It isn’t new. PS2 owners use voice recognition in many games, and so do XBox owners. Touch screen elements? Been on PC’s, laptops and other things for awhile now. This is no different than Nintendos fad with connectivity. Just something else they are going too far on a limb with. Does dual screens, touch panels and voice recognition sound cool on a handheld? Yes. But how is that high-tech crap any different than the movies/music and all the other features of the PSP that Nintendo always plays down? One might affect gameplay while the others don’t but Nintendo still fails to grasp the fact that the industry has moved on since the SNES days. That’s why the XBox and PS2 launched able to play CD’s and DVD’s and on the XBox, a HDD and the ability to burn music to use in games. And here is the big one.
Mr Iwata said he feared current games with their emphasis on complexity, realism and sophisticated control systems were alienating many potential gamers.
Right. This, ladies and gentleman, is why Nintendo is doomed to continue to slip further and further down the totem pole they created, and will eventually go the way of Sega. Forget that the gamers average age is now somewhere around 22 or 23. Forget the fact that since Nintendo lost their #1 position, the industry has strived and expanded to boundaries people could only dream about in the Nintendo-dominated 80’s. Forget the fact that so far the top 5 selling games on the 3 home consoles are all complex, realistic games with sophisticated control schemes.
Lets recap. Nintendo ran things their way until the early 90’s, and then the industry changed. Business boomed, millions and millions of gamers who would otherwise never of been seen playing games are now all over them. Hell, celebrities are at parties gaming on PS2’s and XBox consoles. The industry has grown immensely under someone elses watch, and now this jackass chimes in saying that the very types of games that have made this excellent change take place, are alienating many gamers from playing games? Brilliant. So, then, Einstein, how would that explain Nintendos slip from #1? Everyone knows Nintendo thrives on simple, challenge-free games that anyone can pick up and play. I would think that goes squarely against complexity, realism and sophisticated controls. Oh wait, that is right, this is Nintendo we are talking about. They are above all logic.
The main point is, Nintendo continues to come up with stupid move after stupid move, backed up by retard reasoning and more retard reasoning. Meanwhile Sony’s userbase has suprisingly improved over PSone’s, and Microsoft is starting to gain momentum. If not many gamers give a rats ass about Nintendos games right now, what makes this jackass think they will start to sell games if they "take gaming back to the starting line"? As *****y as Nintendo is, they are likely forgetting that the "starting line" of gaming wasn’t even the NES. Anyone want to go back to an era of gaming that resembles the Atari era? No *****ing way. I like my games fine the way they are now, regardless of what tripe Nintendo tries to come up with, telling me what I want and how I want it. Obviously I am not in the minority either, because gaming is still just getting more and more popular, while Nintendo continues on that downward spiral. Maybe they are just bitter. Whatever their problem is, I am now convinced to the fullest that they have no idea what the solution is. The GBA I purchased last year is likely the last Nintendo console I will ever own, and I am suprisingly not saddened
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PSP IS THE POWNAGE!!! IT IS 1337ZORS
now that thats done. I think all that this "DS site orented" poll was trying to prove was that
ds sales are higher then expected. this probably means that people enjoy the new and uniqe controls that the ds offers.
psp sales are high, but not as high as nintendos
therfore people probably enjoy the innovativness and gameplay the DS offers. in spite of the Amasingly beautiful graphics the psp has.
I like both systems, and i think that the DS is refreashing and i like the gameplay oreanted style they have chosen
But, i think if PSP gets there act together this could be a very very close run at the end
Both are great systems, PSP gets my vote for hardware, and DS gets my vote for software
Chow!
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Not sure, the two probably at parity when it comes to price per capability thing. Games? Maybe, but both sides has been rehashing old favorites for awhile now.
At the end, it might be basic, basic issues like battery life, load times, and gameplay. More often than not, I hear of PSP's battery life going up in smoke quickly and the load times compete with PS1 and PS2 on the regular basis. That will frustrate people. We gamers are simple folks and when we're out on our methods of transportations , we want our games to pop out quickly and play quickly... and play the entire length of our trip. Something that the PSP seems to do a bad job at. The cartridge for the console may be a bad thing... but the DS is showing that a cartridge-like thing for handhelds isn't entirely a bad idea. The PSP is still a newcomer to the market, as long as they don't get too discouraged... they may become a mainstay in the handheld market. (Although, to a Sony exec, those Japan sales numbers has gotta be a bit disconcerting.)
Anyhoo, that's my two cents
darter9000@gmai l.com
(just a wandering commentator on the world of gaming)
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23 million DS units as of the end of July
The DS has sold another 800,000 in US since then, another 800,000 in EU since then, and about 1.5 million in Japan since then.
So the DS is at a total of about 26 million right now.
PSP at 13 million at the end of July. It has sold about 200,000 in Japan since then. About 300,000 in US since then (GBA actually sells more lolz), and I'm going to guess about 100,000 in EU since then. I don't know about the EU numbers, but I know that the DS sells 100k per week, making up 70% of the market. Plus there's GBA which sells on par with PSP, giving PSP about 15% in EU. It's crap, folks.
So the PSP is at about 13.8 million now. Enjoy.
I think it's important to note the horrible software sales of the PSP in America. They are really struggling.
From pcvsconsole.com:
Top 15 DS
NDS POKEMON MYSTERY DUNGEON: BLUE RESCUE TEA - 285,311
NDS STAR FOX COMMAND - 137,620
NDS NEW SUPER MARIO BROS - 134,954
NDS MARIO HOOPS 3 ON 3 - 89,072
(NDS NINTENDOGS combined - ~87,000)
NDS LEGO STAR WARS II: THE ORIGINAL TRILOGY - 58,540
NDS BIG BRAIN ACADEMY - 57,383
NDS BRAIN AGE: TRAIN YOUR BRAIN IN MINUTES A - 56,012
NDS MARIO KART - 51,133
NDS HARVEST MOON - 47,312
NDS MEGA MAN ZX - 38,701
NDS ANIMAL CROSSING: WILD WORLD - 37,801
NDS NINTENDOGS: DACHSHUND & FRIENDS - 33,601
NDS MARIO VS DONKEY KONG 2: MARCH OF THE MIN - 31,928
NDS NINTENDOGS: LABRADOR & FRIENDS - 27,434
NDS SUPER MARIO 64 DS - 26,737
Top 15 PSP
PSP MADDEN NFL 07 - 81,888
PSP LEGO STAR WARS II: THE ORIGINAL TRILOGY - 46,665
PSP MIDNIGHT CLUB 3: DUB - 32,400
PSP STAR WARS: BATTLEFRONT II - 31,328
PSP TEKKEN: DARK RESURRECTION - 24,649
PSP LOCOROCO - 23,566
PSP GRAND THEFT AUTO: LIBERTY CITY STORIES - 22,439
PSP NCAA FOOTBALL 07 - 18,325
PSP ULTIMATE GHOSTS 'N GOBLINS - 17,069
PSP DEF JAM FIGHT FOR NY: THE TAKEOVER - 15,597
PSP THE GODFATHER: MOB WARS - 15,134
PSP VALKYRIE PROFILE: LENNETH - 14,644
PSP NASCAR 07 - 14,260
PSP 50 CENT: BULLETPROOF - 13,836
PSP NBA LIVE 07 - 13,078
The PSP can't break the 100k mark with a single game in the length of a month. That's really sad.
So now that I've pretty much proved the sucktasticism of the PSP, I really don't think you fanboys can say anything good about the system besides *****got posts like "psp is l33t gyus" or ***** like that. Seriously, grow up... :|
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