Court gives go-ahead to GTA murder lawsuit |
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Alabama's Supreme Court is allowing a lawsuit filed against Sony, Take-Two, and US retailers of Grand Theft Auto to be commenced later this year or in early 2007. 18 year old Devin Moore murdered two police officers and a dispatcher in June 2003, and although he pled not guilty because of a mental defect he was convicted of the crimes and sentenced to death. Now, the victims' families are going after those responsible for creating and distributing the game because they believed it trained Moore to become a killer. While the infamous Jack Thompson withdrew from the case after being accused for violating legal ethics, there will surely be other anti-videogames lawyers to take his place. It is possible to argue that playing GTA might have given Moore ideas about going on a killing rampage, but it's hard to see how pressing the circle button equates to acquiring and firing a gun in real life. Ultimately, it'll be up to Alabama's Supreme Court to make the final decision, but you can be sure that there will be plenty of money involved in the settlement if it goes in favor of the plaintiffs. Contact Us:
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MY SECOND FIRST COMMENT OF THE DAY NOOBS
1st post! i own you
Cops got murdered all the time before GTA came out. Why do people find this surprizing and then have the right to sue?
im tired of hearing people blaming movies and video games for another persons own mental problems who probably needed some good attention from friends and family around them
Wow... people am smart. Seriously, when will people take responsibility for their actions? Maybe his parents never paid attention to him or something... but I guess the victims' families wouldn't get them involved when its just easier to go after Rockstar. Why take money from an average family when you can take from a successful company? People suck.
This is the kind of stuff that pisses me off. I mean, first of all, it's a VIDEO game, in no way at all could it prepare someone mentally or physically to go on a killing rampage. Second, I don't see how people keep attacking media for acts of violence. If someone can't handle playing a game like this, they shouldn't ruin it for everyone else with a stable mind. And third, this guy was 18 years old, what he does is his own fault. PRetty soon they're going to start banning mature movies and TV shows, because a VERY small majority can't distinguish between fantasy and reality. The way I see it, if you do something haynous like this, then you were *****ed up to begin with, the games didn't provoke ANYTHING other than to give you ideas on HOW to carry out the violence. ~ZFB8
SOEMGUY THOUGHT HE DID THE FIRST COMMENT BUT I WAS THE ONE WHO REALLY DID LOL
What the hell has America come to? Taking game developers to court just because you can kill a cop in them? Just because some f*kin kid claimed that the games made him go crazy? Jesus christ! Next your guna tell me ESRB was sued because the rated a game "E" instead of "E 10+"
It's odd how Rockstar, Sony and Take Two are being targetted and yet for some reason The Beatles were never sued when Charles Manson said that the song Helter Skelter drove him to kill all those people. AHEM! *****TARDS! If anyone should be sued it should be his family for not playing attention to him. How do you not notice someone, who is apparently mentally unstable to begin with getting into the state of mind to kill someone. This is a very, very sad day for parents with children with mental disabilities. It really puts a taint on them when many of them try so hard for their kids.
in my opininon video game vilence dose not make killers it makes killers more unique
Pushing buttons on a little game controller have absolutely nothing to do with shooting cops in real life! I'm tired of people using video games as an excuse to make money off of something that isn't even true! Video games DON'T cause people to shoot cops; they were most likely weird like that since they were born, not because pixels and polygons on a screen made them that way! VIDEO GAMES ARE FOR WHEN YOU'RE BORED AND HAVE NOTHING BETTER TO DO - NOT TO "TRAIN YOU" HOW TO COMITT GRAND THEFT AUTO, IT'S JUST TO MAKE YOU FEEL COOL AFTER A LONG DAY OF GETTING BEAT UP AT SCHOOL!
JEJE
lol ^^^^ he is right , they are gonna sue atari fro putting one of their dbz games early childhood insted of E7+ lol , anyways I like to seee atari sued and any company who makes dbz games , I hate dbz , the people who like dbz has the mind of people of early childhood , ohh and if you are a dbzfanboy don't bother writing hate mails to me cause I don't care if you think this is discriminating , I discriminate aganst the peopleI want , that means dbz freaks , pokemon freaks and yugio freaks just cause they suck their....... thumbs , anyways this is just crap that the government is making ( paying mr.crazy parents to sues rockstar ) and I know why the government hates videogame companies , because if videogame company grows , the realism grows , if war games with too much realism go ( or shooter games ) less idiots I mean people join the army , you know what I'll say idiots because people who join the army are morons and assasins.
He's 18, he's an adult, and if he was found guilty then he is. this is so lame. in america we can make things like GTA because it's the land of the free... don't take that freedom away. if you don't want to play it, then don't buy it (i don't want to play it, which is why i don't have it... though I would like it's hacking abilities) there's a lot stuff out there that would be a better teacher of how to be a murderer than GTA.
Thats gay, people need to take responibilty for them selves, not find other people to blame, shame on u
gess who bught him the game in the first place if u dont want ur child playing the video game dont buy it for them duh
It's odd how Rockstar, Sony and Take Two are being targetted and yet for some reason The Beatles were never sued when Charles Manson said that the song Helter Skelter drove him to kill all those people. AHEM! *****TARDS! If anyone should be sued it should be his family for not playing attention to him. How do you not notice someone, who is apparently mentally unstable to begin with getting into the state of mind to kill someone. This is a very, very sad day for parents with children with mental disabilities. It really puts a taint on them when many of them try so hard for their kids.
OH NO, ITS NOT A PARENTING PROBLEM.
hmm wonder why microsoft wont be sued.... they released the game too....
hmm wonder why microsoft wont be sued.... they released the game too....
Space Invaders made me kill aliens :(
i think he was just trying to blame someone esle for his actions. im a parent of a 12yrs old boy and he loves to play the game but i teach him what is right and wrong its just a game. i think his parents should of teach him better and let him know its just a game im sorry for thier lost but no one deserve to die . i think thier parents is wrong for sueing the company.
i think he was just trying to blame someone esle for his actions. im a parent of a 12yrs old boy and he loves to play the game but i teach him what is right and wrong its just a game. i think his parents should of teach him better and let him know its just a game im sorry for thier lost but no one deserve to die . i think thier parents is wrong for sueing the company.
Since you are all wasting your time getting upset and making stupid cliche comments why dont you do a slice of research on the subject of the effects videogames have on people. If you do I gurantee you'll find some information in support of the parent's claims. Don't take my word for it, go look for yourself. Anyway, logically a case like this could not have been given the go ahead if there were no ground on which it could stand. Now, I may not agree with the parent's claim but I do know that from my minor in psychology and my thesis paper in philosophy concerning this very subject that there is enough evidence that it is reasonable to say that the parents are correct in their claim. The problem I have is that it would be hard to associate the kids killing spree with GTA specifically when there are so many violent videogames out there.
I AM GOING TO KILL SOME ONE IF I FIND THE PARENTS AND THAT *****ER WHO IS SUING I AM GOING TO SLIT ALL OF THAIR *****ING NECKS I AM FING TIRED OR RANDOM PARENTS SAYING THAT VIDEO GAMES ARE VIOLENT. WHO ARE THE PARENTS WHO SAY THIS BECAUSE I WANT TO KILL THEM. SERIOUSLY MY DAD LETS ME PLAY RATED A GAMES AND HE DOES NOT GIVE A *****. AND DONT GET ME WRONG I AM 16 YEARS OLD AND I MAKE GOOD GRADES, I HAVE GOOD PARENTS. BUT NOT ONES THAT HANG ON TO MY NUTS WHILE I AM TAKING A PISS. SO PLZ IF YOU SEE A PARENT LIKE THIS PLZ TELL ME WHERE THEY LIVE I WANT TO KILL THE PARENTS SERIOUSLY I AM GETTING TIRED OF *****ING PARENTS COMPLAINING ABOUT A *****ING VIDEO GAME. AND WEAK MINDED KIDS. ''OOOO THEY ARE SHOOTING IN THE GAME SO I GUESS ILL GET A GUN AND SHOOT EVERY ONE OOOOOO''. *****ING SONS OF *****ES ILL KILL THAT ***** FOR EVEN GOING ON TRILE ON ROCKSTAR. I HOPE THEY LOSE THEN I CAN SLIT THAIR *****ING NECKS. AND ANY WAY IF HE IS MIND DISABLED WHERE THE ***** DID HE EVEN GET A GUN. WOW GOOD PARENTS. JEEZ I HATE THIS. THEY ARE JUST TRYING TO BACK UP THAIR STUPID ***** SON WHO SOULD NOT BE SENTANCED TO DEATH, BUT TO A MAXIMUM PRISON FACILITY WHERE HE WILL RECIVE HIS *****ING DAILY RAPE IN THE SHOWER ROOM LIKE HE DISERVES IT. IF HE *****S ROCKSTAR GAMES IN THE ASS WE WILL TOO. I OUTTA SHOOT HIM MY SELF. I LOVE RAMPAGE GAMES AND YOU DONT SEE ME TAKING A PISTOL AND SHOOTING EVERY ONE IN THE *****ING SCHOOL. JESUS *****ING CRIST PLZ WASTE THAT MENTALY RETARDED *****ER GOOD ON THE ELECTRIC CHAIR. My God, it's people like you who make poeple wanna ban video games in the first place. You're such *****ing hypocrites, it's hilarious. In the SAME EXACT sentence that you say that poeple are dumb for committing violent acts like this, you say you are going to KILL the parents who act like this, and you have horrible grammar and spelling to boot. I think that if banning these games got rid of people like you, it might just be worth it =D ~ZFB8
Im thinking of sueing DC shoes. One day I tripped over my shoe laces. I feel that If i havent of bought the shoes I would of been fine. Dont blame peoples mental issues on games/movies etc. Retards get tried as retards and therefore dont go to prison because they are *****Ked Not the game developers. Everybody loves GTA so its like 1000million to 1. If 1000million people start killing then sommit is wrong
Someone please punch "rail" in the face and if possible give ZFB8 a high five for being awsome.
that's why most people in the world hates america... it's the stupidity country!
Perhaps we can save money training our military by just putting them all on violent video games. I'll feel real safe if the U.S. Navy S.E.A.L. teams just play a lot of SOCOM. What a joke. I was allowed to play violent games and watch violent movies as a child. I had been taught how to shoot a handgun, that games and movies are fake, and that the gun I was shooting was very real. The first time I pulled a gun on another man was at 13 yrs. old (crackhead broke in while I was home alone), well after I started playing video games. Thankfully, I didn't have to pull the trigger. If I hadn't been taught BY MY PARENTS/FAMILY I may have shot the guy or myself. This kid is a moron and so are his parents. Hey, Mr. & Mrs. Moron, have you ever heard of parenting? Oh well, it is unfortunate that ignorant parents likely leads to ignorant offsprring. Lock the whole stupid bunch up and throw away the key. They should spend the rest of their lives working to pay for their incarceration and the families of the officers. A.J.
you don't need to type in capitals, we won't read your comments if you just leave caps lock on all the time. this subject needs to be studied properly, why can't a well devised study be made into whether or not videogames will push an unstable person over the edge. don't get so angry at us either, if you want to shout about it shout where people who you're shouting at don't feel the same... can someone please post an intelligent comment, such as the guy who studied the pschology of this 'phenomenon'.
I wonder if his amazing parents know he uses such fowl language. I am also curious as to whether this bitter child leaves his house this agressive. My money is that he doesn't. I would be willing to bet that he wouldn't make eye contact with anyone because he is such a coward. If venting your anger here is the only thing keeping you from killing yourself there rail, do us a favor and stop venting; the world would be that much better off having gotten rid of garbage like you.
why did they let him play it in the first place. yeah great parenting and now cause we failed as parents lets blame a video game company to hide those faults and lets get some money out of it. everything parents do around there kids influences there actions later in life. so the question is why isnt child protective services filing a law suit againt the parents for bad parenting.?
this courts are totatly stupid, the game dont have nothing to do with murders, Its the *****ing parents that allow or not allow them to play the game, if he kills someone, ITS his fu..cking problem to get punished and not THE game.
so because his parents were not able to raise thier child with the ability to tell the difference between right and wrong they get the right to sue everyone else for thier own incompetence? times like this i fear for humanity...
"Now, I may not agree with the parent's claim but I do know that from my minor in psychology and my thesis paper in philosophy concerning this very subject that there is enough evidence that it is reasonable to say that the parents are correct in their claim." Man, if that kid isn't mentally unstable then the parents should have taught him better. If the kid is mentally unstable then they should not have let him see/play the game. Either way it is the parents responsibility to educate/protect the child.
Doesnt this remind you of that WWF case a while back?? the one where that kid killed his neighbor using a WWF move AND THEN the parents tried to Sue WWF? not like the people trained the kid how to do it.. he did it on his own...
For that 18 year old guy to have shot someone he must have been a dbz fan or pokemon fan or yugio fan who for first time played a GTA game and took a gun and started shooting like if it was the game ( belive me I saw at some videos AOTS showed of gencon , some dbz fans dressed as dbz chracaters ( mostly people older than 30 ) and even talked dbz crap , omg how I hate dbz and yugio and pokemon and I'm starting to hate nintendo too and sega , and how I hate the communists people , they don't understand the term economical balance , for their to be an economical balance in a country there has to be rich people and poor people and medium class and if you try and make all medium class the economy will unbalance itself eventually making everyone poor and then the president turns to a dictator , communism is like following George Bush , ohh and I hate republicans but not all , only the Bush followers , the people who voted for Bush are morons and I will hate them for the rest of my life , Bush sucks , he's even worse than osama and saddam , worse than Kung Ji Ling or whatever is the name of the N.Korean president , *****ing Bush saying that Hugo Chavez is a bad president , I wish my country president was Hugo Chavez , that way Puerto Rico can become free of USA abuses , liberty for Puerto Rico and it's 4 million inhabitants , then after P.R. the other 30 million on Irak , but P.R. more important cause is my country.
1.) To the people typing in caps about you killing some other guy or some bs like that, YOU are exactly what is fueling the whole lawsuit thing against awesome companies like Rockstar... 2.) With that said, the main issue here is with the parents of the idiot. I'm happy that he's getting the death penalty and that the system actually works, but i don't see what his actions really had to do with GTA or games like it. In the end its the person who pulls the trigger...Also, aren't kids just a reflection of their parents and their parenting?
Im sure if this person played zelda, he probably would have taken a big knife thinking its a sword and cut up every guy he can find giving a girl a hard time and say, "Im trying to save princess Zelda" Lol, then that would be a fun lawsuit case to see. Oh and i bet that if he happend to see some gay porno, he would go out an rape some men in real life. I couldn't wait to see lawsuits being filed against that!
gta is an amazing and well-made game. i cant believe the video-game industry may suffer just bc some negro's effed up mommy forgot to breast-fead the little nut-case.
yup, like some have already mentioned, the parents are more or less in denial of the fact that they can't parent and guide a child correctly of what is right and wrong. 2 folds of shame for giving an already mental unstable child violent video games. do you give excitable children cocaine? no because its stupid. don't give mentally disturbed individuals material that contain sensitive topics. it only makes sense. these lawsuits against sony, take2 etc are to take the spotlight off of the irresponsible parenting that is running rampant in our society.
it's funny that its always a video game or a movie. never the parents..i have played violent games for a very long time. im 28 now i played all the mortal kombats when i was a teen one of my fave. sega games was immortal and countless others that was graphic and loads of blood.. i have a good steady job makeing close to 40k a year and proud father of 3 kids my oldest is a 8yr old a girl she has stright A's in school and she very well mannerd!!!!!! i also have a 5yr old little boy and he is on the same route he is very good mannerd and also dose very well in pre school he starts kindergarden this comming year i do sports and all with my kids.........(but we also play GTA all of us even my 5 year old son so i don't want to here a damn thing about games its the parents be in there lifes do stuff with them and be a parent period.... also my son the 5yr old his fav game is halo on the pc i set it up for him with a game pad and he has finished the game on his own.(easy) but still he is only five if this dose anything its help the kids out with motor skills and lots of other things. Last thing just so she is not left out my youngest is also a girl she is only just 3 but when she can she also plays video games........................... thanx ice45044
The truth is there is something very wrong with this country.
Ok #1 - Alot of people don't understand these games have frikkin Ratings on them .... The ones who are to blame are either the store clerks who sell these games to someone under age. Or the parents who buy the games for their kids without knowing what the hell is in it. Be more active in ur childrens lives and this type of ***** wouldn't happen. Now as far as an 18 year old killing cops and dispatchers. LOL thats funny. How the hell does an 18 year old kill a cop and dispatchers wtf is he a splinter cell or something come on give me a *****in break ... a Mentally Distorted child at that. I think he was military trained to do something this extreme maybe brain washed or something by an outsider. Thats my view on it
Another group of parents shifting their responsibility to others when their kids ***** up. Why is it now parents are so quick to blame everything else in society for messing up kids, maybe they should take a look at their home environment and the way they raise kids - who knows, maybe that effects the way a kid grows up - *****ing morons.
I say a new law should be passed saying its illegal to blame the actions of individuals on "ideas" portrayed by media. If a mental defect causes people to act out the things they see on tv, videogames, movies, books etc. The mental defect is what should be responsable not the idea portrayed by what was shown in what ever medium. There is no way possible that any idea given to someone by the media can force someone to act it out. Its up to the viewer to deside if its right or wrong to do in real life and if they see killing people as the right thing to do becuase it is in a movie or a video game, then its that persons fault. Simple and Logical. Infact, its already engraved as the first amendment in the US constitution (the Freedom of Speach and Press) Its just the republicans who think they are above the constituton so they can enforce 'contraverial subject' censorship from the media. Plus censoring violent media from everyone accually has the provable reverse effect of creating more violence in society, just bigotry hides this provable fact. Allot of extremely gory and violent videogames and movies and such keep the fuct up cerial killers in there house jacking off to the gore and violence of hurting innocent people. Also unleashing some inborn instincts of violence from fustrations playing a violent video game and hurting people in the game keeps angry husbants from beating on their wife and kids reducing domestic violence. This same thing can be applied to any form of "contravercial subject" censorship from society.
I AM GOING TO KILL SOME ONE IF I FIND THE PARENTS AND THAT *****ER WHO IS SUING I AM GOING TO SLIT ALL OF THAIR *****ING NECKS I AM FING TIRED OR RANDOM PARENTS SAYING THAT VIDEO GAMES ARE VIOLENT. WHO ARE THE PARENTS WHO SAY THIS BECAUSE I WANT TO KILL THEM. SERIOUSLY MY DAD LETS ME PLAY RATED A GAMES AND HE DOES NOT GIVE A *****. AND DONT GET ME WRONG I AM 16 YEARS OLD AND I MAKE GOOD GRADES, I HAVE GOOD PARENTS. BUT NOT ONES THAT HANG ON TO MY NUTS WHILE I AM TAKING A PISS. SO PLZ IF YOU SEE A PARENT LIKE THIS PLZ TELL ME WHERE THEY LIVE I WANT TO KILL THE PARENTS SERIOUSLY I AM GETTING TIRED OF *****ING PARENTS COMPLAINING ABOUT A *****ING VIDEO GAME. AND WEAK MINDED KIDS. ''OOOO THEY ARE SHOOTING IN THE GAME SO I GUESS ILL GET A GUN AND SHOOT EVERY ONE OOOOOO''. *****ING SONS OF *****ES ILL KILL THAT ***** FOR EVEN GOING ON TRILE ON ROCKSTAR. I HOPE THEY LOSE THEN I CAN SLIT THAIR *****ING NECKS. AND ANY WAY IF HE IS MIND DISABLED WHERE THE ***** DID HE EVEN GET A GUN. WOW GOOD PARENTS. JEEZ I HATE THIS. THEY ARE JUST TRYING TO BACK UP THAIR STUPID ***** SON WHO SOULD NOT BE SENTANCED TO DEATH, BUT TO A MAXIMUM PRISON FACILITY WHERE HE WILL RECIVE HIS *****ING DAILY RAPE IN THE SHOWER ROOM LIKE HE DISERVES IT. IF HE *****S ROCKSTAR GAMES IN THE ASS WE WILL TOO. I OUTTA SHOOT HIM MY SELF. I LOVE RAMPAGE GAMES AND YOU DONT SEE ME TAKING A PISTOL AND SHOOTING EVERY ONE IN THE *****ING SCHOOL. JESUS *****ING CRIST PLZ WASTE THAT MENTALY RETARDED *****ER GOOD ON THE ELECTRIC CHAIR.
^^End yourself, now. ~ZFB8
Lets push new laws I say a new law should be passed saying its illegal to blame the actions of individuals on "ideas" portrayed by media. If a mental defect causes people to act out the things they see on tv, videogames, movies, books etc. The mental defect is what should be responsable not the idea portrayed by what was shown in what ever medium. There is no way possible that any idea given to someone by the media can force someone to act it out. Its up to the viewer to deside if its right or wrong to do in real life and if they see killing people as the right thing to do becuase it is in a movie or a video game, then its that persons fault. Simple and Logical. Infact, its already engraved as the first amendment in the US constitution (the Freedom of Speach and Press) Its just the republicans who think they are above the constituton so they can enforce 'contraverial subject' censorship from the media. Plus censoring violent media from everyone accually has the provable reverse effect of creating more violence in society, just bigotry hides this provable fact. Allot of extremely gory and violent videogames and movies and such keep the fuct up cerial killers in there house jacking off to the gore and violence of hurting innocent people. Also unleashing some inborn instincts of violence from fustrations playing a violent video game and hurting people in the game keeps angry husbants from beating on their wife and kids reducing domestic violence. This same thing can be applied to any form of "contravercial subject" censorship from society. Amen =P ~ZFB8
"For that 18 year old guy to have shot someone he must have been a dbz fan or pokemon fan or yugio fan who for first time played a GTA game and took a gun and started shooting like if it was the game ( belive me I saw at some videos AOTS showed of gencon , some dbz fans dressed as dbz chracaters ( mostly people older than 30 ) and even talked dbz crap , omg how I hate dbz and yugio and pokemon and I'm starting to hate nintendo too and sega , and how I hate the communists people , they don't understand the term economical balance , for their to be an economical balance in a country there has to be rich people and poor people and medium class and if you try and make all medium class the economy will unbalance itself eventually making everyone poor and then the president turns to a dictator , communism is like following George Bush , ohh and I hate republicans but not all , only the Bush followers , the people who voted for Bush are morons and I will hate them for the rest of my life , Bush sucks , he's even worse than osama and saddam , worse than Kung Ji Ling or whatever is the name of the N.Korean president , *****ing Bush saying that Hugo Chavez is a bad president , I wish my country president was Hugo Chavez , that way Puerto Rico can become free of USA abuses , liberty for Puerto Rico and it's 4 million inhabitants , then after P.R. the other 30 million on Irak , but P.R. more important cause is my country." we noe u dont care so stop commentin u fool we noe u dont care wut people say but f**** u too ***** stop talkin its the parents fault dont blame it on DBZ and pokemon or wutever jus shut up
As it is true the law suite should not be against rockstar games and Sony because at the starting of every game it stricktly announces that the game is for fictional use only. So in court Rockstar would have an advanctage to the point that they have $$$ and they got Sony on their side $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ you get my point e-mail me at jonut_3@hotmail.com
Video games are the newest kids on the block. Everyone's going to pick on them. Rap, rock, and such are becoming more accepted since they were around for a long time. Eventually, people will learn to accept video games and move on to blame something else for their problems.
"Now, I may not agree with the parent's claim but I do know that from my minor in psychology and my thesis paper in philosophy concerning this very subject that there is enough evidence that it is reasonable to say that the parents are correct in their claim. The problem I have is that it would be hard to associate the kids killing spree with GTA specifically when there are so many violent videogames out there." Sorry, how do you "know"? What evidence? I assume the guy lived with his parents and had probably been playing gta for a while, probably before he was 18 too. Now, if I have a kid who twitches and blinks a lot, the last thing I'm going to do is let him play gta. Even if he's legally an adult, I'd suggest that the parents have a great deal of responsibility, escpecially considering this guy was a few clowns short of a circus.
Theres plenty of better simulation shooters out there? Time Crisis for example. You hold a gun and shoot stuff on screen. But do you see people going out and being vigilantes and killin criminals? NO you dont. Not even those games prepare a person to shoot a real gun no matter how realistic they try and simulate the shooting of a gun. Sniper Scope? Do you see anyone going to a gun shop, buying a rifle and going on a killing spree? I dont think so. All these cases are just for people to get some money and blame someone else for their stupidity. First of all they are responsible for letting their kids play GTA in the first place.
stop your comments, I'm the last one
This one time I played Q-Bert, now i'm jumping off of buildings.
agree with comments 3 and 5. its not the games fault. its the persons fault. obviously for someone to do that, theyr not mentally stable or okay in the head in the first place. I PLAY ROCKSTAR GAMES AND DONT HAVE IDEAS OF KILLING PEOPLE. idiots.
I just wrote an essay about video game violence....this is completely stupid, these parents need to realize that they raised their kid wrong and didnt put the games into perspective as is their job as parents. So this just adds another page and a half to my essay....GOD DANGIT I HATE WHEN THIS CRAP GOES DOWN.
If a kid shows interest and urges to play violent video games, restricting them from playing it could cause them to find other ways to release there internal violent instincts. It may be by bullying or beating up on other kids in school. Just by showing the urges to be violent already shows a child has the potential to do something violent, and censoring him from everything violent doesnt fix it. In most cases it makes things worse. You can't prove that someone who has no urges to play violent games would become more violent if they played a violent game. They would just dislike it and most likely be appauled by it. Its like trying to get a straight person to watch gay porno, it wont make him any more gay and he wont like it unless he is already gay. People blaming the violent actions of others on the availibly of violent video games to minors is just as wrong as blaming the video game itself. Any child, if raised properly to be able to destinguish whats real from fantasy and knows right from wrong, they should be able to handle playing a violent video game to release their violent urges in a form that won't hurt anyone else. If they are sensitive to that sort of violence or appauled by it, its simple, they just wont play it.
lol america makes me laugh. 18 year old plays violent games and kills someone, blame the games. WELL.. This 18 year old must have been eating his share of meat to pump muscles big enough to carry guns and ammo to take down not 1 but 3 adults. Why not blame the cattle industry for fueling his muscle power?? YEa that's right, I eat meat and i killed someone, therefore we should blame the cattle industry or poultry if you're anal about it.
"that's why most people in the world hates america... it's the stupidity country!" Alright, if you're going to talk sh*t about other country's intelligence, at least learn your grammar, retard. Yes, America isn't necessarily the best place in the world for insane people. There happen to be a lot more homicides in the United States than a majority of other countries in the world, but that has nothing to do with intelligence.... It has much more to do with a poorly raised individual impacted by the harshness of society. Poorly raised individuals like the ***** who talks sh*t about the U.S. Quit making your country look ignorant. By the way, I'm Canadian. But you're no less ignorant.
it is true that due to the 'right to bear arms' in the american constitution there are a lot more firearms in the u.s than there are in other well developed countries, and that ought to be the main problem here. if someone like this guy is truly psychotic, which i imagine he is due to his actions, then he will most likely go kill someone if he has a gun or not... and that makes the gun argument slightly harder to carry off. and then there's the news, has anyone ever watched the news? they give you some crazy ideas on there, how to kill people, how to crash your car, how to do all sorts of evil things... but then not many people blame the news for violent behaviour. it's clear that everyone who reads this site is in agreement, it's not the videogames which have made this guy go nuts... i just wonder how some idiot middle american housewife who's never played these games and has only listened to some arsehole politician who's rallying for votes, manages to form an opinion on this. it's ignorance of the videogame medium which drives people to condemn it.
Well if thats the case, I am kick ass quarterback!!! wheres my deal! Training pffff!
If anyone of you wants to get free money, just snipe the family trying to blame rockstar/gta for their sons actions. Snipe the kid and parents and I'll give you what I have. Don't come back until the job is done.
reading things like this is making me want to go out and kill some people who sue others for this BS.
First - to the poster who posted this... HAHAHA SOEMGUY THOUGHT HE DID THE FIRST COMMENT BUT I WAS THE ONE WHO REALLY DID LOL Please take a look at the times of the first two posts. Exactly the same. So technically, you're both first post. However, the second one of them is better because at least he doesn't sound like a n00b. If you insist on posting in all capitals, you merely look stupid. And about these people who are going "I'd kill the parents!"...please stop. Your only making yourselves look stupid. And, while I fully expect myself to get flamed, at least you can read my post and understand it. Anyhow, on topic with the actual report...the people who are suing obviously have never played the games. True, I've only played GTAIII, but that's close enough. And, while there may be blood and swears, Grand Theft Auto does NOT teach you to kill people. There's a few assassination type missions, but nothing too bad. Anyhow, in games like "Ghost Recon" and "Unreal Tournament", you are behind the gun. AAAARGH! I'm feeling it...happening...I've played Grand Theft...Auto III...and now I must... RAAARGH! MUST GO ON A SHOOTING RAPMAGE! BAHARE SMASH! By the way, to some of the above posters - that was a somewhat appropriate time to use all caps. NOT what you are doing. Mahare, over and out.
I'm going to sue all the people who blame games for their criminal actions because it makes me want to kill them all.
pressing a button.. or sqeezing a trigger... it's not what your finger does, it's what your mind trips
WTF!!! WTF!!! WTF!!! I AM NOT GOING TO BOTHER WITH THE RANT BECAUSE EVERYBODY HERE ALREADY SAID WHAT I AM GOING TO SAY SO WHAT PEOPLE ARE SAYING IS THAT IF I PLAY SOME BARBIE PRINCESS GAME I WILL START WEREING DRESSES AND SPREADING PIXY DUST F*CKING MORONS, THEY ARE A DISCRASE TO THE F*UCKING HUMAN RACE, STUPID PIECE OF SH*T MORONS NO DIGNITY WHAT SO EVER!!! OK MAYBE I DID RANT A LITTLE :)
hahah keep posting comments im getting a real kick out of em,i think these are the best comments ive seen on this fourm, laughing so much im in tears:)
I can think of a million people to kill before I start on just any old cop. (p.s. support HONEST cops) But I'm really having trouble seeing how video-games inspire murderous rampage. You choose to play the game, it's television that gets my finger itching... then politics... then Joe-stupida$$-Public B!tching... etc... "Monday I've got murder on my mind..."
the guy was found guilty therefore courts ruled he was responsible. this case should have never got off the ground. since it is though there is no way rockstar and sony can be held accountable because violence is everywhere in the media. can it be proven that this guy played gta and nothing else. no tv, no movies, no music to get him to go over the edge. maybe he was watchin CNN do a story in iraq before right before he started shooting ppl. and the parents. they are not completely to blame because the guy was 18 and as such he is legally responsible for his actions. the parents did have a hand in raising the boy but as an adult he is the only 1 who can be held accountable which he was. this case should be thrown out.
This type of thing just gets run to the ground sooo much. First it was Presley and his hip gestures, then it was Judas Priest and his music( and later, of course, Eminem...lol). But NOW hey, now we the incapable ones have a NEW tool to point the finger with.....games? I don't know who's having a problem associating right from wrong worse, this judge or the teenager who shot the cops and dispatcher :P. I mean do you honestly think that if these games weren't around they wouldn't be doing wrongful actions and have murderous intentions? Did Hitler have a game console, my guess is no :P..lol. What about those two kids who kidnapped a boy made him walk a few miles while periodically beating him and torturing only to finally brutally kill him and leave him for a train to run him over. I'm pretty sure THAT wasn't in a game. Thing is, as parents, your job is NEVER done no matter WHAT age your child becomes. Parenthood is a lifelong commitment. And also, the news shows depictions of violence with just a small warning that the following scenes may be unsuitable. Should we sue them too because HEY they didn't label their broadcast as TV-13 or TV-M and wait until we bought the airspace? Poor parenting , teenage angst, peer pressure.....it's an AGE OLD PROBLEM !! As well as scapegoat-ism. When you point your finger there are always three pointing right back you.
Its so simple, basically either its all due to poor parenting and they dont want to take responsibility, or their child had some kind of mental problem. Its one thing playing a game, but its a totally different thing to make the connection between playing a game and enacting its content in the real world. Either games are being used as a scapegoat , or the person really did use the game as inspiration, HOWEVER, that person must have had something wrong mentally to make that transition from game to real-world violience in the first case. Generally, if it really was solely down to videogames, we'd all be mass murderers
America...the land of lawsuits. Where spilling coffee on yourself nets millions of dollars. Where you never have to take responsiblity for your own actions. Where you are afraid to do something because somebody is going to sue...and the one with the slickest lawyer wins. Where any problem is somebody's fault...not yours. Where lawyers run ads on TV perpetuating the whole problem (in my country...never have I seen a single lawyer ad). And last but not least..where you can get sued by a fat person for making food simply because you admit that "it was their fault." News like this makes me sick...not only that they even thought to sue...but for the judges, logical people, ALLOW it to be brought to court. Sick sick sick.
hahaha gta trained him.... i wonder how many times he died in the game before he killed those cops
How easy it is to blame the parents, I mean almost every person commenting is doing just that. But what if the parent is a good one, an undeniable great parent that did everything they could to raise his/her child in an appropriate way? Who do you blame then? Stop blaming the parents. I think it is more than reasonable to look into the parenting but there is this little thing called free will, which whem comined with violent thoughts can be dangerous. To this It might be seen that I am blaming the kid which is pretty much where I stand. Many people come from bad families and turn out fine and many from good families turn bad; you cannot assume it is only the parent's fault, that is just silly. Do a little critical thinking, maybe some research and you'll have more information to fairly decide but at this point the only finger that can be pointed for sure is at the boy that commited the act and he is getting what he deserves for that. We'll have to wait and see how the rest unfolds.
I want the gold. Show me the gold! Do you see the gold? Give me the gold!
Why not sue the film studios for movies where people are killed too?
How the hell can a video game make some wanna kill?? I like playing Postal on pc, but I doesn't make me wanna go around setting fire to people or smashing heads in with a shovel! it's just a GAME!!!
"To this It might be seen that I am blaming the kid which is pretty much where I stand. Many people come from bad families and turn out fine and many from good families turn bad; you cannot assume it is only the parent's fault, that is just silly." Somes times its the parents who seem to be good parents, or think they are good responsable parents becuase they "shield" their children from the outside world of real life. Keeping constant watch making sure they have no clue what the idea or concept of a video game is, making sure they never learn what a gun is or what it can do but dazzled by something he has never even seen before in his life. Then their kid finds a gun in his friend's closet and blasts his head off by accident. Then the same parents say that its not their fault becuase they are good parents then blame the father of the kid who dies for making their perfect son with the perfect parents a murder.
SO where were videogames when Hitler killed millions... People always look for somthing to blame, instead of blaming the real culprits, which are the parents. I'm not even going to continue tryiyng to make a point...because irresponsible parents are always gonna be ignorant...
I HAVE TO COPY THIS EVERYWHERE I SEE THIS F***ING ARTICLE! im so sick of this, i have to copy and paste this for every forum i see this "gta made me do it" thing. if its not your parents responsiblity, its GTA's (which its not). but THEY PUT A DISCLAIMER ANYWAY it clearly says on the disclaimer RIGHT before the loading screen to the actual game that grand theft auto is NOT based on real violence(meaning that its fictional).Only someone blindfolded and drunk would actually ignore everything they say, kill everyone in the game, and get to the point where you actually have to KILL 3 POLICEMEN only to have them send you to court. heres a tip: ALWAYS READ THE ****ING DISCLAIMER!!! if there is one that is. Video game companies should start putting disclaimers on their games, and it only takes about half a brain to figure out that video games arent REAL! i can auto aim in grand theft auto, can i auto aim in the real world? no.I can jump REAL high in grand theft auto and land without dying.can i jump that high in the real world? not without dying.and theres no bits of text in life that tell us what to do either. if you want the real problem, its that people simply DONT PAY ATTENTION! the devil didnt make you do it. gta didnt make you do it. YOU MADE YOURSELF DO IT! how? BECAUSE YOU NEVER LOOKED AT THE DISCLAIMER! so put: gta takes no responsibility for said actions
e-mail me at da_guy_of_2003@yahoo.com if you want to make any comments about this bullsh*t thats been being roamed about
No need in myself to want to kill, just to punch rail in the face like someone suggested earlier.
How does a game teach you how to use a weapon? I just dont get it. Its not like your holding the gun or anything. Its just a button you press on a controller. If thats how to use a gun then im already a pro. So watch out. Ive been playing violent video games my whole life and I am the least violent person in my family. You dont see me killing some one with a fiber wire just because i saw it. Its just retarded. This person must have something wrong with them. Who ever feels like they need to kill some one that just *****ed up and you should be in jail. I just dont know why people feel the need to sue everybody. Alright i live in chicago and this happened pretty recently. It was very snowy and a plane needed to land at the airport but it was hard to see. The plain land but can stop because if a malfuntion in the brakes. The plain skids off the run way and on to the street smashing a car. The son dies. The parents feel they need to sue the airline company. Do the parents even car that there son is dead. Everyone thinks that money makes all your problems go away. That just *****ing bull *****. Alright lets take it down a scale. Someone runs over your dog do you sue them, no. All i need to say is that the kid was already *****ed up to begin with and his parents need to do something its called parenting thats why your called parents to watch out for your kid so they dont do the wrong things.
they put a disclaimer, they warned us, they cautioned us, and devin disobeyed them. now jack has to find an excuse for the killing of 3 police officers. WHAT EXCUSE!? they warned you devin, and you disoybeyed them.how is jack going to defend you? this is YOUR FAULT! YOUR SCREW UP! ALL OF YOU ARE SCREW UPS BECAUSE YOU HAVENT SEEN SOMETHING AS SIMPLE AS A DISCLAIMER ON THE GTA GAME! it comes RIGHT before the loading screen to the game! THIS IS PROOF THAT GTA IS NOT LIABLE FOR SAID ACTIONS!!!!! WHY ARE ALL OF YOU SO BLIND!? p.s: im the same guy with the da_guy_of_2003@yahoo.com address
right now i feel the need to send an e-mail to the press
why are we all talking? the press isnt even hearing this. ITS A *****ING DISCLAIMER! READ IT YOU *****GOTS!
What do u expect??? Its probably stupid rednecks... of course that kid didnt get much attention from his parents...
ive got an even higher gpa then u so dont keep talkin Sh*t about some people u dont noe becuz u never noe wut might happen to u.
It's *****ing retarded. If they're gonna blame GTA they should use the "Why didn't he use the Pay-N-Spray?" defense.
They have no clue about what they are talking about in video games . My parents think that I will have no life LOL ya all parents need to open their eyes!!!!!!!!
Why are parents so against video games? They try to blame video games for all of today's problems, even though these things have always existed and were never caused by video games in the first place!?
The kid was 18 when he bought the game (assuming he bought it). The kid had to have known that it had a mature rating and his parents had to have seen him playing this game and realized that its too violent. if the kid had a "mental" issue than why would the parents let the kid play the game. its the ******* parents fault for not doing something. Rockstar and all the the ppl who made the game have had numerous cases like this and all of them were in Rockstars favor stating they are not responsible. These anti-videogame lawyers can all rot in hell and should be shot in the face. I mean come on WTF! Get a life and stop trying to make all the ppl who love GTA and GTA like games think that the games are gonna make u kill someone(BULL****).
good god, trying to convince people that video games are not the blame is like trying to find diversity in a Abercrombie & Fitch catalogue.
ok, for this dude that has a "minor in psychology", researching proves nothing because if you actually did research, you would find it that many psychologist have different findings and very different opinions on the effects of the brain while playing video games. Some would even argue that video games are good for you while some will say it promotes violence. now im gonna tell you this, I know literally HUNDREDS of people who play video games and not one of these people are violent. infact, alot of these guys are the friendliest people I know and some of these very same guys are my best friends. to put it simple it goes like this: If your not old enough to play a certain type of game(for example, a game rated M) then you shouldnt even be allowed to buy it. If the parents are the ones buying it for their children then thats a problem thats also a separate issue. If you dont like the game simply dont buy it. as for that 18 year old retard killing a kid...well, If my son was retarded, then why would I let him play a violent game if he's unstable? thats like training a dog to be violent and then sueing an old man for shooting it after the old man was attacked by this dog. bad analogy? maybe. but the dog wouldnt know any better just like the stupid retard didnt know any better. its the parents fault, not GTA. Plain and simple. now everybody, shut da F*** up and pick up ur psp's and play GTA:LCS. kill some hoes, shoot some pedestrians and have fun. I know I will.
you ppl are friggin hilarious!!! my favorite?? sue the cattle industry!! just too much! lmfao!
You sue the game company you're going to have to sue every piece of entertainment including games, movies, television shows and whatnot if they contain violence and/or killing in them. Good luck trying to do that. Somehow, I can't see someone trying to sue the producers of "Desperate Housewives" or "Lost."
I didn't spend time to read all of the comments since I could care less but all I have to say is this. At the age of 18, there is no possible way that he could have played a video game and it taught him how to kill people, being a normal person that is. I've played many GTA's and i'm only 16, I find them boring and repeditive. At the age of 18 and to murder someone because of something in a video game, you would have to have huge mental problems. Also, he could have had problems in his past that might have caused him to kill them. He could have been beaten when he was younger, or was picked on, beat up or made fun of most of his elemetary and/or middle school part of life which could have caused him to have mentally emotional problems, he could have uncontrollable anger because of it. I'll bet you they didn't do ***** to find out any information like . Blame everything on video games, TV or movies because of your own incompetence and ignorance.
what about how he got the gun? I think that's a bigger problem. or maybe who's gun it is... Nah, lets them sue Rockstar and get money... it's said that you can't put a price on life, but I guess them hillbilly's did.. And to them: Suck a D!*K and Die nameless
what a crock of *****. oh, i just played grand theft auto and now i have the urge to kill. the boy was *****ed up before he played the game. *****in fat chicks suing McDonalds all over again. wot about all the other people who play gta and don't have the urge to kill? cos i don't. and guess why, because i'm now *****ed in the head so i don't want to kill so i can play gta all over again. freakin hillbillies wantin to get money out of their loss so they can get out of their trailer. go suck *****s
you should be glad that stupid shlt like this is happening in the world. it makes the rest of us look better.
first of all i must say that i am sort of a gta fan, but not a hardcore player, i mean i may spend about 10 to 20 hours continuously in sanandreas, but it doesn't mean that i know a lot of secrets and all... so this being my position, let me say what i think about these "pushers" that blame a video game for their actions. everything that we see, feel, smell and touch "educate" us, and the visual impresions are the most influent. so it might be possible that a video game or any video-something can determine a human to take certain actions. but the human element in this ecuation is the most important, i mean the human shoud make a difference between the real life and the fictional one. if that's not possible then he shoud go to get some counciling. as for this particular case, the game might be only the drop that filed the glass. the problem actually relies in the education of that boy, so their parents shoud first ask themselves how did the boy got to play the game, how did he managed to get the weaponry and so on... i one think he is insane, so the death sentence shoud be changed to something less, but all i know is what i read in this article.
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