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Alabama's Supreme Court is allowing a lawsuit filed against Sony, Take-Two, and US retailers of Grand Theft Auto to be commenced later this year or in early 2007. 18 year old Devin Moore murdered two police officers and a dispatcher in June 2003, and although he pled not guilty because of a mental defect he was convicted of the crimes and sentenced to death. Now, the victims' families are going after those responsible for creating and distributing the game because they believed it trained Moore to become a killer. While the infamous Jack Thompson withdrew from the case after being accused for violating legal ethics, there will surely be other anti-videogames lawyers to take his place. It is possible to argue that playing GTA might have given Moore ideas about going on a killing rampage, but it's hard to see how pressing the circle button equates to acquiring and firing a gun in real life. Ultimately, it'll be up to Alabama's Supreme Court to make the final decision, but you can be sure that there will be plenty of money involved in the settlement if it goes in favor of the plaintiffs.| 0% of voters think this story ROCKS! |
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Why take money from an average family when you can take from a successful company? People suck.
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The way I see it, if you do something haynous like this, then you were *****ed up to begin with, the games didn't provoke ANYTHING other than to give you ideas on HOW to carry out the violence.
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it makes killers more unique
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in america we can make things like GTA because it's the land of the free... don't take that freedom away. if you don't want to play it, then don't buy it (i don't want to play it, which is why i don't have it... though I would like it's hacking abilities)
there's a lot stuff out there that would be a better teacher of how to be a murderer than GTA.
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IF I FIND THE PARENTS AND THAT *****ER WHO IS SUING I AM GOING TO SLIT ALL OF THAIR *****ING NECKS I AM FING TIRED OR RANDOM PARENTS SAYING THAT VIDEO GAMES ARE VIOLENT. WHO ARE THE PARENTS WHO SAY THIS BECAUSE I WANT TO KILL THEM. SERIOUSLY MY DAD LETS ME PLAY RATED A GAMES AND HE DOES NOT GIVE A *****. AND DONT GET ME WRONG I AM 16 YEARS OLD AND I MAKE GOOD GRADES, I HAVE GOOD PARENTS. BUT NOT ONES THAT HANG ON TO MY NUTS WHILE I AM TAKING A PISS.
SO PLZ IF YOU SEE A PARENT LIKE THIS PLZ TELL ME WHERE THEY LIVE
I WANT TO KILL THE PARENTS
SERIOUSLY I AM GETTING TIRED OF *****ING PARENTS COMPLAINING ABOUT A *****ING VIDEO GAME. AND WEAK MINDED KIDS. ''OOOO THEY ARE SHOOTING IN THE GAME SO I GUESS ILL GET A GUN AND SHOOT EVERY ONE OOOOOO''. *****ING SONS OF *****ES ILL KILL THAT ***** FOR EVEN GOING ON TRILE ON ROCKSTAR. I HOPE THEY LOSE THEN I CAN SLIT THAIR *****ING NECKS. AND ANY WAY IF HE IS MIND DISABLED WHERE THE ***** DID HE EVEN GET A GUN. WOW GOOD PARENTS. JEEZ I HATE THIS. THEY ARE JUST TRYING TO BACK UP THAIR STUPID ***** SON WHO SOULD NOT BE SENTANCED TO DEATH, BUT TO A MAXIMUM PRISON FACILITY WHERE HE WILL RECIVE HIS *****ING DAILY RAPE IN THE SHOWER ROOM LIKE HE DISERVES IT. IF HE *****S ROCKSTAR GAMES IN THE ASS WE WILL TOO. I OUTTA SHOOT HIM MY SELF. I LOVE RAMPAGE GAMES AND YOU DONT SEE ME TAKING A PISTOL AND SHOOTING EVERY ONE IN THE *****ING SCHOOL. JESUS *****ING CRIST PLZ WASTE THAT MENTALY RETARDED *****ER GOOD ON THE ELECTRIC CHAIR.
My God, it's people like you who make poeple wanna ban video games in the first place. You're such *****ing hypocrites, it's hilarious. In the SAME EXACT sentence that you say that poeple are dumb for committing violent acts like this, you say you are going to KILL the parents who act like this, and you have horrible grammar and spelling to boot. I think that if banning these games got rid of people like you, it might just be worth it =D
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Dont blame peoples mental issues on games/movies etc. Retards get tried as retards and therefore dont go to prison because they are *****Ked Not the game developers.
Everybody loves GTA so its like 1000million to 1. If 1000million people start killing then sommit is wrong
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I was allowed to play violent games and watch violent movies as a child. I had been taught how to shoot a handgun, that games and movies are fake, and that the gun I was shooting was very real. The first time I pulled a gun on another man was at 13 yrs. old (crackhead broke in while I was home alone), well after I started playing video games. Thankfully, I didn't have to pull the trigger. If I hadn't been taught BY MY PARENTS/FAMILY I may have shot the guy or myself.
This kid is a moron and so are his parents. Hey, Mr. & Mrs. Moron, have you ever heard of parenting? Oh well, it is unfortunate that ignorant parents likely leads to ignorant offsprring.
Lock the whole stupid bunch up and throw away the key. They should spend the rest of their lives working to pay for their incarceration and the families of the officers.
A.J.
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this subject needs to be studied properly, why can't a well devised study be made into whether or not videogames will push an unstable person over the edge.
don't get so angry at us either, if you want to shout about it shout where people who you're shouting at don't feel the same... can someone please post an intelligent comment, such as the guy who studied the pschology of this 'phenomenon'.
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and not THE game.
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Man, if that kid isn't mentally unstable then the parents should have taught him better. If the kid is mentally unstable then they should not have let him see/play the game.
Either way it is the parents responsibility to educate/protect the child.
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2.) With that said, the main issue here is with the parents of the idiot. I'm happy that he's getting the death penalty and that the system actually works, but i don't see what his actions really had to do with GTA or games like it. In the end its the person who pulls the trigger...Also, aren't kids just a reflection of their parents and their parenting?
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Oh and i bet that if he happend to see some gay porno, he would go out an rape some men in real life. I couldn't wait to see lawsuits being filed against that!
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these lawsuits against sony, take2 etc are to take the spotlight off of the irresponsible parenting that is running rampant in our society.
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never the parents..i have played violent games for a very long time. im 28 now i played all the mortal kombats when i was a teen one of my fave. sega games was immortal and countless others that was graphic and loads of blood..
i have a good steady job makeing close to 40k a year
and proud father of 3 kids my oldest is a 8yr old a girl
she has stright A's in school and she very well mannerd!!!!!!
i also have a 5yr old little boy and he is on the same route he is very good mannerd and also dose very well in pre school he starts kindergarden this comming year i do sports and all with my kids.........(but we also play GTA all of us even my 5 year old son so i don't want to here a damn thing about games its the parents be in there lifes do stuff with them and be a parent period....
also my son the 5yr old his fav game is halo on the pc i set it up for him with a game pad and he has finished the game on his own.(easy) but still he is only five if this dose anything its help the kids out with motor skills and lots of other things.
Last thing just so she is not left out my youngest is also a girl she is only just 3 but when she can she also plays video games...........................
thanx ice45044
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#1 - Alot of people don't understand these games have frikkin Ratings on them .... The ones who are to blame are either the store clerks who sell these games to someone under age. Or the parents who buy the games for their kids without knowing what the hell is in it.
Be more active in ur childrens lives and this type of ***** wouldn't happen. Now as far as an 18 year old killing cops and dispatchers. LOL thats funny. How the hell does an 18 year old kill a cop and dispatchers wtf is he a splinter cell or something come on give me a *****in break ... a Mentally Distorted child at that. I think he was military trained to do something this extreme maybe brain washed or something by an outsider.
Thats my view on it
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Simple and Logical. Infact, its already engraved as the first amendment in the US constitution (the Freedom of Speach and Press) Its just the republicans who think they are above the constituton so they can enforce 'contraverial subject' censorship from the media.
Plus censoring violent media from everyone accually has the provable reverse effect of creating more violence in society, just bigotry hides this provable fact. Allot of extremely gory and violent videogames and movies and such keep the fuct up cerial killers in there house jacking off to the gore and violence of hurting innocent people. Also unleashing some inborn instincts of violence from fustrations playing a violent video game and hurting people in the game keeps angry husbants from beating on their wife and kids reducing domestic violence. This same thing can be applied to any form of "contravercial subject" censorship from society.
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IF I FIND THE PARENTS AND THAT *****ER WHO IS SUING I AM GOING TO SLIT ALL OF THAIR *****ING NECKS I AM FING TIRED OR RANDOM PARENTS SAYING THAT VIDEO GAMES ARE VIOLENT. WHO ARE THE PARENTS WHO SAY THIS BECAUSE I WANT TO KILL THEM. SERIOUSLY MY DAD LETS ME PLAY RATED A GAMES AND HE DOES NOT GIVE A *****. AND DONT GET ME WRONG I AM 16 YEARS OLD AND I MAKE GOOD GRADES, I HAVE GOOD PARENTS. BUT NOT ONES THAT HANG ON TO MY NUTS WHILE I AM TAKING A PISS.
SO PLZ IF YOU SEE A PARENT LIKE THIS PLZ TELL ME WHERE THEY LIVE
I WANT TO KILL THE PARENTS
SERIOUSLY I AM GETTING TIRED OF *****ING PARENTS COMPLAINING ABOUT A *****ING VIDEO GAME. AND WEAK MINDED KIDS. ''OOOO THEY ARE SHOOTING IN THE GAME SO I GUESS ILL GET A GUN AND SHOOT EVERY ONE OOOOOO''. *****ING SONS OF *****ES ILL KILL THAT ***** FOR EVEN GOING ON TRILE ON ROCKSTAR. I HOPE THEY LOSE THEN I CAN SLIT THAIR *****ING NECKS. AND ANY WAY IF HE IS MIND DISABLED WHERE THE ***** DID HE EVEN GET A GUN. WOW GOOD PARENTS. JEEZ I HATE THIS. THEY ARE JUST TRYING TO BACK UP THAIR STUPID ***** SON WHO SOULD NOT BE SENTANCED TO DEATH, BUT TO A MAXIMUM PRISON FACILITY WHERE HE WILL RECIVE HIS *****ING DAILY RAPE IN THE SHOWER ROOM LIKE HE DISERVES IT. IF HE *****S ROCKSTAR GAMES IN THE ASS WE WILL TOO. I OUTTA SHOOT HIM MY SELF. I LOVE RAMPAGE GAMES AND YOU DONT SEE ME TAKING A PISTOL AND SHOOTING EVERY ONE IN THE *****ING SCHOOL. JESUS *****ING CRIST PLZ WASTE THAT MENTALY RETARDED *****ER GOOD ON THE ELECTRIC CHAIR.
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~ZFB8
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I say a new law should be passed saying its illegal to blame the actions of individuals on "ideas" portrayed by media. If a mental defect causes people to act out the things they see on tv, videogames, movies, books etc. The mental defect is what should be responsable not the idea portrayed by what was shown in what ever medium. There is no way possible that any idea given to someone by the media can force someone to act it out. Its up to the viewer to deside if its right or wrong to do in real life and if they see killing people as the right thing to do becuase it is in a movie or a video game, then its that persons fault.
Simple and Logical. Infact, its already engraved as the first amendment in the US constitution (the Freedom of Speach and Press) Its just the republicans who think they are above the constituton so they can enforce 'contraverial subject' censorship from the media.
Plus censoring violent media from everyone accually has the provable reverse effect of creating more violence in society, just bigotry hides this provable fact. Allot of extremely gory and violent videogames and movies and such keep the fuct up cerial killers in there house jacking off to the gore and violence of hurting innocent people. Also unleashing some inborn instincts of violence from fustrations playing a violent video game and hurting people in the game keeps angry husbants from beating on their wife and kids reducing domestic violence. This same thing can be applied to any form of "contravercial subject" censorship from society.
Amen =P
~ZFB8
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we noe u dont care so stop commentin u fool we noe u dont care wut people say but f**** u too ***** stop talkin its the parents fault dont blame it on DBZ and pokemon or wutever jus shut up
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you get my point e-mail me at jonut_3@hotmail.com
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Sorry, how do you "know"? What evidence?
I assume the guy lived with his parents and had probably been playing gta for a while, probably before he was 18 too. Now, if I have a kid who twitches and blinks a lot, the last thing I'm going to do is let him play gta. Even if he's legally an adult, I'd suggest that the parents have a great deal of responsibility, escpecially considering this guy was a few clowns short of a circus.
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Sniper Scope? Do you see anyone going to a gun shop, buying a rifle and going on a killing spree? I dont think so. All these cases are just for people to get some money and blame someone else for their stupidity. First of all they are responsible for letting their kids play GTA in the first place.
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its not the games fault. its the persons fault. obviously for someone to do that, theyr not mentally stable or okay in the head in the first place.
I PLAY ROCKSTAR GAMES AND DONT HAVE IDEAS OF KILLING PEOPLE.
idiots.
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Just by showing the urges to be violent already shows a child has the potential to do something violent, and censoring him from everything violent doesnt fix it. In most cases it makes things worse. You can't prove that someone who has no urges to play violent games would become more violent if they played a violent game. They would just dislike it and most likely be appauled by it. Its like trying to get a straight person to watch gay porno, it wont make him any more gay and he wont like it unless he is already gay.
People blaming the violent actions of others on the availibly of violent video games to minors is just as wrong as blaming the video game itself. Any child, if raised properly to be able to destinguish whats real from fantasy and knows right from wrong, they should be able to handle playing a violent video game to release their violent urges in a form that won't hurt anyone else. If they are sensitive to that sort of violence or appauled by it, its simple, they just wont play it.
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18 year old plays violent games and kills someone, blame the games.
WELL..
This 18 year old must have been eating his share of meat to pump muscles big enough to carry guns and ammo to take down not 1 but 3 adults. Why not blame the cattle industry for fueling his muscle power?? YEa that's right, I eat meat and i killed someone, therefore we should blame the cattle industry or poultry if you're anal about it.
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Alright, if you're going to talk sh*t about other country's intelligence, at least learn your grammar, retard.
Yes, America isn't necessarily the best place in the world for insane people. There happen to be a lot more homicides in the United States than a majority of other countries in the world, but that has nothing to do with intelligence.... It has much more to do with a poorly raised individual impacted by the harshness of society.
Poorly raised individuals like the ***** who talks sh*t about the U.S. Quit making your country look ignorant.
By the way, I'm Canadian. But you're no less ignorant.
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if someone like this guy is truly psychotic, which i imagine he is due to his actions, then he will most likely go kill someone if he has a gun or not... and that makes the gun argument slightly harder to carry off.
and then there's the news, has anyone ever watched the news? they give you some crazy ideas on there, how to kill people, how to crash your car, how to do all sorts of evil things... but then not many people blame the news for violent behaviour.
it's clear that everyone who reads this site is in agreement, it's not the videogames which have made this guy go nuts... i just wonder how some idiot middle american housewife who's never played these games and has only listened to some arsehole politician who's rallying for votes, manages to form an opinion on this. it's ignorance of the videogame medium which drives people to condemn it.
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HAHAHA
SOEMGUY THOUGHT HE DID THE FIRST COMMENT BUT I WAS THE ONE WHO REALLY DID LOL
Please take a look at the times of the first two posts. Exactly the same. So technically, you're both first post. However, the second one of them is better because at least he doesn't sound like a n00b. If you insist on posting in all capitals, you merely look stupid.
And about these people who are going "I'd kill the parents!"...please stop. Your only making yourselves look stupid. And, while I fully expect myself to get flamed, at least you can read my post and understand it.
Anyhow, on topic with the actual report...the people who are suing obviously have never played the games. True, I've only played GTAIII, but that's close enough. And, while there may be blood and swears, Grand Theft Auto does NOT teach you to kill people. There's a few assassination type missions, but nothing too bad. Anyhow, in games like "Ghost Recon" and "Unreal Tournament", you are behind the gun.
AAAARGH! I'm feeling it...happening...I've played Grand Theft...Auto III...and now I must...
RAAARGH! MUST GO ON A SHOOTING RAPMAGE! BAHARE SMASH!
By the way, to some of the above posters - that was a somewhat appropriate time to use all caps. NOT what you are doing.
Mahare, over and out.
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it's not what your finger does, it's what your mind trips
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SO WHAT PEOPLE ARE SAYING IS THAT IF I PLAY SOME BARBIE PRINCESS GAME I WILL START WEREING DRESSES AND SPREADING PIXY DUST
F*CKING MORONS, THEY ARE A DISCRASE TO THE F*UCKING HUMAN RACE, STUPID PIECE OF SH*T MORONS NO DIGNITY WHAT SO EVER!!!
OK MAYBE I DID RANT A LITTLE :)
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"Monday I've got murder on my mind..."
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since it is though there is no way rockstar and sony can be held accountable because violence is everywhere in the media. can it be proven that this guy played gta and nothing else. no tv, no movies, no music to get him to go over the edge. maybe he was watchin CNN do a story in iraq before right before he started shooting ppl.
and the parents. they are not completely to blame because the guy was 18 and as such he is legally responsible for his actions. the parents did have a hand in raising the boy but as an adult he is the only 1 who can be held accountable which he was. this case should be thrown out.
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Its one thing playing a game, but its a totally different thing to make the connection between playing a game and enacting its content in the real world. Either games are being used as a scapegoat , or the person really did use the game as inspiration, HOWEVER, that person must have had something wrong mentally to make that transition from game to real-world violience in the first case. Generally, if it really was solely down to videogames, we'd all be mass murderers
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News like this makes me sick...not only that they even thought to sue...but for the judges, logical people, ALLOW it to be brought to court.
Sick sick sick.
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To this It might be seen that I am blaming the kid which is pretty much where I stand. Many people come from bad families and turn out fine and many from good families turn bad; you cannot assume it is only the parent's fault, that is just silly.
Do a little critical thinking, maybe some research and you'll have more information to fairly decide but at this point the only finger that can be pointed for sure is at the boy that commited the act and he is getting what he deserves for that. We'll have to wait and see how the rest unfolds.
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I like playing Postal on pc, but I doesn't make me wanna go around setting fire to people or smashing heads in with a shovel!
it's just a GAME!!!
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Somes times its the parents who seem to be good parents, or think they are good responsable parents becuase they "shield" their children from the outside world of real life. Keeping constant watch making sure they have no clue what the idea or concept of a video game is, making sure they never learn what a gun is or what it can do but dazzled by something he has never even seen before in his life. Then their kid finds a gun in his friend's closet and blasts his head off by accident. Then the same parents say that its not their fault becuase they are good parents then blame the father of the kid who dies for making their perfect son with the perfect parents a murder.
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People always look for somthing to blame, instead of blaming the real culprits, which are the parents. I'm not even going to continue tryiyng to make a point...because irresponsible parents are always gonna be ignorant...
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im so sick of this, i have to copy and paste this for every forum i see this "gta made me do it" thing. if its not your parents responsiblity, its GTA's (which its not). but THEY PUT A DISCLAIMER ANYWAY
it clearly says on the disclaimer RIGHT before the loading screen to the actual game that grand theft auto is NOT based on real violence(meanin g that its fictional).Only someone blindfolded and drunk would actually ignore everything they say, kill everyone in the game, and get to the point where you actually have to KILL 3 POLICEMEN only to have them send you to court.
heres a tip: ALWAYS READ THE ****ING DISCLAIMER!!! if there is one that is. Video game companies should start putting disclaimers on their games, and it only takes about half a brain to figure out that video games arent REAL!
i can auto aim in grand theft auto, can i auto aim in the real world? no.I can jump REAL high in grand theft auto and land without dying.can i jump that high in the real world? not without dying.and theres no bits of text in life that tell us what to do either.
if you want the real problem, its that people simply DONT PAY ATTENTION! the devil didnt make you do it. gta didnt make you do it. YOU MADE YOURSELF DO IT! how? BECAUSE YOU NEVER LOOKED AT THE DISCLAIMER!
so put: gta takes no responsibility for said actions
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I just dont know why people feel the need to sue everybody. Alright i live in chicago and this happened pretty recently. It was very snowy and a plane needed to land at the airport but it was hard to see. The plain land but can stop because if a malfuntion in the brakes. The plain skids off the run way and on to the street smashing a car. The son dies. The parents feel they need to sue the airline company. Do the parents even car that there son is dead. Everyone thinks that money makes all your problems go away. That just *****ing bull *****.
Alright lets take it down a scale. Someone runs over your dog do you sue them, no.
All i need to say is that the kid was already *****ed up to begin with and his parents need to do something its called parenting thats why your called parents to watch out for your kid so they dont do the wrong things.
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WHAT EXCUSE!? they warned you devin, and you disoybeyed them.how is jack going to defend you? this is YOUR FAULT! YOUR SCREW UP! ALL OF YOU ARE SCREW UPS BECAUSE YOU HAVENT SEEN SOMETHING AS SIMPLE AS A DISCLAIMER ON THE GTA GAME! it comes RIGHT before the loading screen to the game! THIS IS PROOF THAT GTA IS NOT LIABLE FOR SAID ACTIONS!!!!! WHY ARE ALL OF YOU SO BLIND!?
p.s: im the same guy with the da_guy_of_2003@yahoo.com address
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Its probably stupid rednecks... of course that kid didnt get much attention from his parents...
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And to them: Suck a D!*K and Die nameless
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so this being my position, let me say what i think about these "pushers" that blame a video game for their actions.
everything that we see, feel, smell and touch "educate" us, and the visual impresions are the most influent. so it might be possible that a video game or any video-something can determine a human to take certain actions. but the human element in this ecuation is the most important, i mean the human shoud make a difference between the real life and the fictional one. if that's not possible then he shoud go to get some counciling.
as for this particular case, the game might be only the drop that filed the glass. the problem actually relies in the education of that boy, so their parents shoud first ask themselves how did the boy got to play the game, how did he managed to get the weaponry and so on...
i one think he is insane, so the death sentence shoud be changed to something less, but all i know is what i read in this article.
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