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Concerned mother appalled by same-sex marriage in The Game of Life, posts story on Christian site

Posted Mar 16, 2009 at 6:17PM EST by Glenn M.

Listed in: Tags: AGENDA, Shockwave

One concerned mother was spending some quality time with her daughter while playing The Game of Life, a video game adaptation of Milton Bradley's board game. To her surprise, the supposedly child-friendly title allows same-sex marriages to occur - something that she was not prepared to explain to her 6-year-old daughter. She later writes to conservative Christian site, WorldNetDaily, to air her story.

"You know how kids are," the mother told WND. "My daughter noticed right away (even before I did) and clicked on one of the girls instead of one of the men and then asked, 'Mom, how come I can marry a woman?' And then that led into a lot more questions that, quite frankly, I was not ready to talk to my 6-year-old about."

The mother then went on to post her objection on the game's review board. "I went back to the web site and left a very respectful review of the game just stating that this kind of thing should be left out of kids' games, and the Shockwave.com administrator removed my post, stating it was inappropriate," she told WND. "I had no idea how insidious they were being with pushing the homosexual agenda."

"Your guidelines ask us to 'keep your language safe for the kids,' yet here's a game where children may choose homosexual marriage and child-rearing," WND wrote. "Many sections of society accept this as normative, but many also would consider this too mature a theme for children. Others would consider this downright offensive. Is it appropriate to include, for example, lesbianism in this game?"

Hmmm. Lesbianism is too mature a theme for children? I don't think that asking, "How come I can marry a woman?" is any different from, "Where do babies come from?" It's not the game's fault if she's shielding her kid from reality, and they won't be gay just because they were educated about it in their formative years. The only reason that lesbianism and making babies are under different categories is because homosexuality is frowned upon. My two cents. What do you think?

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Finally something I can agree with - though i still do disagree with your decision to put the WoW fanfic post in all sections.

"Hmmm. Lesbianism is too mature a theme for children? I don't think that asking, "How come I can marry a woman?" is any different from, "Where do babies come from?" It's not the game's fault if she's shielding her kid from reality, and they won't be gay just because they were educated about it in their formative years. The only reason that lesbianism and making babies are under different categories is because homosexuality is frowned upon. My two cents. What do you think?"

This is something that needs to be said.

# Stupid *****. — Demonsweat 2009-03-16 18:55

Get over yourself. This isn't 1959. Your child will learn sooner or later. Sheltering them from real life won't actually help them.

# Ridiculous! — PotterBoi 2009-03-16 19:32

Wow, I am outraged at this woman's stupidity! Seriously even in the feking board game the player can choose whom they'd like to marry. It's nothing new, it is after all a game called: LIFE.

There is no Homosexual Agenda. They just want to be given the same rights as everyone else. Its called equality and she should not be promoting segregation. What a stupid Cow! How is she pushing the denial of two people loving each other. What makes their love bad? Just because its a man loving a man or a woman loving a woman. Why the ***** does she care what other people do. Oh the bible says its bad--the bible also says eating shellfish is bad--and I forget that the bible is law... um no, sorry its not.

The bible is a book written by man in a completely different language which has been translated and re-translated over the last two millenniums. Also, we mustn't forget that it was also pieced together by Constantine; only choosing the "best" parts he thought needed to be included.

Homosexuality has existed from even before religion was ever a notion and it even exists in nature naturally. It is not something that is disgusting or gross it is just life, whether it be a human life or an animal life, it will always exist.

As for you kupomogli, you are an idiot. Homo's don't go after every man, sure they may think you're hot (which I severely doubt you are) and it should be taken as a compliment and just say, "sorry, I like girls." That's the end of that. Don't be a moron please.

# ... — TheLastGuitarHero 2009-03-16 20:11

I don't really care about the article, I didn't even read it, I just know that LIFE the board game is freakin' awesome. Even the PSX title is awesome.

# Common Misconception — jamesbrown900 2009-03-16 20:24

I agree kupomogli is a tool.

It is a common misconception that gays hit on every guy they see? Do guys hit on every girl they see? No. The fact of the matter is - gays generally don't waste their time on straight guys as it is a fruitless effort which gets them no where. The thing with homophobes are they're generally very delusional, and also have this idea that knowing someone is gay will make them gay, make their children gay, and practically turn society gay like a virus. If this were the case and sexual behavior spread like a plague, I'd imagine the overwhelming amount of straight people would have already immunized society from being gay to begin with.

So drop your insecurities and open your eyes to the world. I mean you obviously can accept it in some aspect you watch lesbian porn which according to your pastures and rabbis is as much of a sin as two guys together. Which means by you watching lesbian porn you're probably going to hell too.

The idea of you seeing a ***** instantly turning you gay amuses me so much I hope people intentionally start flashing genitals in front of your face so that you start to doubt your sexuality and become a very confused and misguided sorry excuse for a man.

# Interesting... — rowedahelicon 2009-03-16 20:47

"My daughter noticed right away (even before I did) and clicked on one of the girls instead of one of the men and then asked, 'Mom, how come I can marry a woman?' And then that led into a lot more questions that, quite frankly, I was not ready to talk to my 6-year-old about."

A now a quote from Louis Ck

"I should have to talk to my child! Those people cant get married and be happy because I dont want to talk to this kid

# Oh my god — WilLoW :--) 2009-03-16 21:34

I hope they didn't include the possibility for a white woman to marry a black guy in that game too, how would I explain that to my children?

It's gonna pervert my children's minds, who knows, if they play that game, they might become open minded, or worse, marry a handicapped person.

God, please protect my family.

# LOUIS CK ROCKS!!! — Aces In The Palm 2009-03-16 22:35

another quote

"Personally, i see nothing wrong with gay marriage...i mean dont they have as much of a right as the rest of us to be miserable"

# >.> — whaleshark 2009-03-16 23:14

The stupidity of some people. It amazes me. I still, to this day, don't see the problem in gay marriages. Seriously, A person has the right to wed anyone they love. If humanity is so naive as to think that to a man, another man isn't beautiful, or to a woman, another woman isn't a work of grace; then god so help us.

We must allow things to happen like this. Its nature. People like who they like, we should not mess with that.

# Clue is in the name? — simplebob15 2009-03-16 23:34

Surely the title of this software is going to give some indication of the content here. Being a parent I agree that including this type of content could raise potentially awkward questions from a young child, but no more than walking down the street and seeing a same sex couple holding hands for example or simply turning on the TV.

Its how a parent handles these questions thats key, not the fault of any media.

This is the world we live in and, imo, having these questions raised in a bright and fun format is going to help raise acceptance and understanding of such topics for future generations.

Well done to Game of Life for taking the blinkers off and and doing something progressive.

# .... — popmchnex 2009-03-17 00:02

Does it say something about her credibility when a 6 year old girl is more observant than her?

# haha — joemontana03 2009-03-17 00:35

i hated when my mother "said so", but agreed, it works!

on another note, many other religions homosexualism would end up in public stoning, so christians should consider themselves 'glad' for having that.

# @jamesbrown900 — joemontana03 2009-03-17 00:38

gay man always think straight men are not gay yet cos they havent tried, so they hit everyone... nothing against 'gayism', but i agree with kupomogli, that's fine, far from me.

# Maybe — FreePlay 2009-03-17 01:07

But it also says something about QJ's credibility when they use WorldNetDaily as a source.

WND is notorious for literally making up stories simply to rile up the Christian fanatics. They LOVE to tell lies about how those darn gays are always working their way into American life in worse and worse ways, just to keep the hate and fear boiling.

I would not be at all surprised if the entire story is a lie.

# I mean, COME ON. — FreePlay 2009-03-17 01:10

'The redesign also included car game pieces that could be filled with plastic pegs representing a player's growing "family." The board game did not prevent players in any way from placing two pink or two blue pegs in the front seat, thus depicting a homosexual couple.'

HOLY F*CKING SH*T, you can put pegs in holes. Clearly this game is ALL ABOUT SEX!

See how ridiculous these creeps are?

# Law & Order — shivadow 2009-03-17 01:27

Religion was the law created before the days of Government to keep order among the people. The idea that they could be punished by something so powerful as a 'god' (these don't actually exist and it has been proven beyond doubt) was truly terrifying for them. A lot of people around the world still use this stone-age law method to create law within themselves of their family. Preaching should be treated as a form of terrorism.

Admittedly the woman has a right to protect the interests of her young daughter but why bring religion into it?. The reason... she has no power to face the corporation unless she has representation from a huge body.

Sorry darling but the world ain't listening unless you are Roman Catholic. FACT!.

# i love religion!! — yorbs 2009-03-17 01:58

hey I don't know how to say "it's a glitch".. so i reckon we kill 'em all!!

lets kill people cause gays are bad and so are software errors!

did u know, there was one commandment that actually goes above the 10 commandments.. and it says "gays are evil"..

so that gives everyone the right to kill them, because it precedes murder.

n hey, don't blame me.. this is the way the muslims interpret the koran.. and it obviously works for them.

ahhh religion.. the best excuse for murder :)

# Turdstorm approaching — Orlyeh 2009-03-17 02:10

I don't really know where to start correcting people on here. I could easily go off on how we don't have the "right" to marry anyone we like. I can't marry an already married woman, now can I? I guess I'll focus on just a comment from the article itself.

I don't think that asking, "How come I can marry a woman?" is any different from, "Where do babies come from?"

Who, in their right mind, is going to explain, to a six year old, the intricacies of intercourse and pregnancy? I smell the old stork story coming back up.

# I agree — Hotsuma 2009-03-17 02:51

Definitely a good point, but really this isn't that revolutionary. It is a shame these sort of 'ethical dilemmas' are still in debate because, quite frankly, in my opinion, this shouldn't be an ethical dilemma.

# Hopefully they don't read QJ.net — poopoopilot 2009-03-17 02:53

there's plenty of queers here to offend her.

# Thunderstorm approaching? — Hotsuma 2009-03-17 02:55

I absolutely agree. This video absolutely characterizes how irrational the debate against homosexuality is:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_y3-ckuM3E

# wtf — Allstaraugustine 2009-03-17 03:37

i respect religion but some people just take it too far...who the hell cares if theres same sex marriages in a board game for petes sake.

# what???!!! — tip.top.trick 2009-03-17 03:41

I'm not a gay, but why does she think that same-sex marriage is any worse than usual ones? What if her daughter asked her where do children come from? She'd also say she wasn't ready to answer that and ran to the court?

Damn, I hate such people who always want to find something amoral and start running around and crying!

# This mom is right — Nerd42 2009-03-17 03:48

The mother who bought this game is right, at least in the sense that she has a legitimate reason to complain. The Game of Life is supposed to be a "family friendly" franchise - and it always has been up to this point. Homosexuality as an acceptable lifestyle is a contraversial social issue - whether you like that fact or not is irrelevant - and something the developers should have avoided if they're making a game for kids. She didn't buy "Grand Theft Auto" or "Gay Hentai Quiz Show" - she just got ripped off, and I think it makes sense that she would warn other like-minded parents not to buy a deceptive product like this.

# It's called the game of LIFE — hush404 2009-03-17 03:56

Not the game of "Christian views".

In real life there's a little something called freedom of choice where a man or woman can choose which ever gender of partner they wish and live happily with that choice.

The game doesn't require you to actually explain facts to your children... but YOU SHOULD. A simple "A girl can marry a girl hunny, it's OK" would suffice... you don't need to sit down and discuss the whole political, religious and sexual background to the ideas. You can interject your own views on the subject pertaining to your believes and religion... but you shouldn't force the opinion as the only one on the child or (even worse) refuse to comment on the subject, instead writing useless letters to companies for including LIFE aspects in the game of LIFE.

# ... — Xastabus 2009-03-17 03:56

An obviously bigoted response followed quickly by moths to the flame war.

Seriously, eather you're ok with it or you aren't. You can't have it both ways.

People often forget that not everyone shares your beliefs and values. One people's cardinal sin is another's way of life.

"As it harm none, including yourself, do as you will." It's a variation on the golden rule, "Do unto others as you would have done unto you." The trouble herein is that everyone's definition of harm and they way each person wants to be treated is different.

Tina likes to be checked up on when she's sick, but her friend Bob prefers to be left alone when he's sick. Tina thinks Bob doesn't care about her when she's sick. Bob thinks Tina is annoyingly over concerned.

They both treat each other as they would want to be treated, but it isn't the right thing to do for either.

# Before anyone flames me... — Xastabus 2009-03-17 04:04

Accepting the existance of someone else's lifestyle doesn't require that you share it or even agree with it, just that you acknowledge the existance and keep your nose out of other people's business. That's Life.

# You know — soopergooman 2009-03-17 04:13

This is all ghey, who freaking still plays the Game of Life? Come off it get with the times missus.

Also the Queer community needs to take a break from the spotlight.

I mean In Toronto, Canada and alot of other cites they have a GAY PRIDE DAY where scary gross old men parade down the street in leather BUTT-LESS chaps and stuff like that, yet the want respect from the rest of us.

Then start acting respectful.

All the old stereotypes need to be dropped for a more conservative outlook of your lifestyle for the future.

All this same sex marriage isn't new, in Jesus's time Men had sex with Men and women were for Making Babies. I wish society would just give it all up already.

# Hope this has been said... — otakusensei 2009-03-17 04:14

Not to get on people's cases too much, but I'm getting offended by all the Christian bashing.

I'm Christian, I try to live my life in a Christian manner. For some people that means trying to "help" everyone they feel has done something against their own personal, and not always bible supported, moral views. For some people it means going to church on Sunday and playing with poisonous snakes.

Just asking folks to learn a little about anyone they feel they need to bash. Knocking Christians isn't any better than what she did after all, we just tend to forgive easier.

# . — hush404 2009-03-17 04:30

I thought I took a completely level headed take on the subject and didn't bash anyone. I believe that one can teach their religion to their kids, but they also have an obligation to let the kids know of the other views in place. Someday that little girl is going to find out about homosexuality and most likely come up with even tougher questions - big ones concerning why her mother lied to her and what it really means to follow the religion she's been following her whole life - which IMO would be a much harder issue to deal with than the same sex marriage in the game of LIFE questions.

# You know... — hush404 2009-03-17 04:42

I can agree with some of your points... like the fact that "Gay Pride" is everywhere and "Old guys parading down the street in BUTT-LESS leather chaps" is just wrong... but your wording and take on the subject just throws any credibility out the window!

You start by calling a mother and young daughter "ghey" for playing a board game and then go into labeling homosexuals the "Queer community"... seriously! You sound foolish.

"Gay Pride" is something heterosexuals are tired of, simply because every chance that arises there is some outspoken avatar for the homosexual community screaming "We are GAY!" and the whole world (or atleast us here in Canada) respond "Yeah... dun care! It's nothing new!" You don't see heterosexuals dressing up with sexually provocative clothes and marching the streets proclaiming "We're Straight and Proud".

# .. — KylBlz 2009-03-17 04:44

this is stupid, why discriminate on a group of people within our society? thats supposed to be unconstitutiona l but i suppose the supreme court justices are a bit homophobic too.. damn religion, just like the south discriminating against black people >=(

although, marriage is strictly a religious ceremony, gays/lesbians should have an equivalent that gives them the same benefits of marriage from an economic/financial stand point.

.. if anyone hits the :( face above this your not american

# "why discrinimate?" — Nerd42 2009-03-17 04:51

Keep in mind that the word "discriminate" means "choose".

If people choose not to buy a stupid video game because they don't like something in it, or for whatever reasons, it's their business. What else is the meaning of freedom?

# Just Maybe.... — NeoHumpty 2009-03-17 06:06

Maybe if you aren't prepared to explain these things to a child you shouldn't have had one. Or maybe you should move to Utah and live in a Commune. Or maybe you should just laugh it off and tell the kid that it is a choice that some people choose to make.

Or maybe just tell the kid that you can choose that, but at the end of the game when you retire your player piece will be set on fire and burn for the rest of eternity, along with your same colored peg-partner.

Or maybe you should just grow up and realize that someone's sexuality only matters if you want to f**k them....

unless you happen to be a vengeful, wrathful god yourself....

# Ironically... — Cydonos 2009-03-17 06:24

This woman is accusing someone else of "pushing an agenda" when she's the one asking for increased censorship.

To use her own terminology, I'm sure milton bradley didn't know how insidious she would be in pushing the homophobic agenda.

# Also, — Cydonos 2009-03-17 06:28

I'm not sure why this woman was interested in playing the game of "Life" with her daughter when "Life" is what she's trying to shield her from.

# Nowadays — p0p0 2009-03-17 07:11

All I have to say to these anti-gay folk need to suck it up. Homosexuals are a fact of life in today's society. Their just like everyone else. Maybe the marriage was simply a glitch or lack of code to check if the sexes were the same.

But so what?

The kid is gonna know. Saying "because it was her choice" isn't gonna screw up the kids mental development or turn them gay just by hearing it.

I don't get these people who feel that they need to broadcast their opinions and views on everyone else.

I say this as I comment on her broadcast. Damn. lol.

...

Hey look, its Candlej-

# Lets see the answers on the board... — SeRosiS 2009-03-17 07:47

Yep, this about sums up how ridiculous you ALL are making this out to be.

Just simple short answers is all you need, not some long poetic speech full of sh*t and lies.

NeoHumpty there has some pretty good viable alternatives to what this lady could have done or said, but she didn't, oooooooh. end of story.

# ... — Justingraziano 2009-03-17 07:54

And this is exactly why religion must be banned. These morons did the same thing back in the 60s with interracial marriage then, after everyone started accepting it they act like they loved it all along. People forget that Christians were very anti interracial marriage. In a couple more years when homosexuality is accepted they will start treating homosexuals good too, and look for someone else to discriminate against. Just ban religion now and stop this nonsense. Religion has caused nothing but problems ever since it was created.

# Oops — rowedahelicon 2009-03-17 08:37

The quote was shouldn't have to talk, not should.

And yea, he does rock, he says it like it is!

# Allow me to play devils advocate. ;) — NickyP 2009-03-17 09:03

"Homosexuality has existed from even before religion was ever a notion and it even exists in nature naturally. It is not something that is disgusting or gross it is just life, whether it be a human life or an animal life, it will always exist."

Ahh, the ol' "nature does it, so we can do it too" argument. Essentially what you're saying is, because animals can be homosexual, it is correct for us to be homosexual as well, yes?

Well then, many mammals (including dogs, rabbits, squirrels) eat their own feces after pooping. The reason being that there's still nutrients in them so they eat them to get the leftover ones. So, because "nature does it, we can do it too", does this mean it's now OK and perfectly natural to stick my head in the toilet and eat what I just crapped out?

How about this one: many mammals also eat and/or kill their own children if they don't learn to fend for themselves within a certain time period. Does this mean it's now alright for me to kill my son if he can't cook dinner before he's 3? Or if he doesn't have a job before he's 16? You know, because nature does it as well?

I'm waiting. :)

# HAHA — s10swamper 2009-03-17 09:33

STUPID JESUS CRISPIES, ALWAYS THINKING THEY ARE RIGHT AND THE REST OF THE WORLD IS WRONG

# for real — eric_954 2009-03-17 09:55

even though this type of thing is in everyday life i still dont think it should be in a game for kids because people are not born gay it is learned.its a mental disease.and christianity is not a religion its the truth.

# Yes we should... that's how those species remain strong. — jamesbrown900 2009-03-17 10:19

Yes you should... the reason the gene pool is so polluted and we are getting weak and dumb is because medical science has kept the weak inside of it. Rather than letting them die at birth or early age. So those defective people get to procreate. Simple science, it's how we bread stronger healthier plants.

# ... — Justingraziano 2009-03-17 10:47

Kids, here is a great example of why you should not do drugs. One day your snorting some white powder, the next your worshipping fictional beings and believing that completely normal people have mental diseases. Next thing you know you wont even wipe your ass anymore because you'll believe that these fictional beings will wipe it for you. STAY AWAY FROM DRUGS!!!

# WRAP UP — T-Spice 2009-03-17 10:55

Just a quick wrap up of absurdities posted here that made me laugh.

"I'm not a big fan of homosexuality, though girl on girl is awesome."

"And this is exactly why religion must be banned."

"...because people are not born gay it is learned.its a mental disease.and christianity is not a religion its the truth. "

# hush404 — Orlyeh 2009-03-17 10:56

"but you shouldn't force the opinion as the only one on the child"

unfortunately, that's the very job of the parent - to instill values upon the child. you have to use absolutes with children because they often don't have the life experience to know when the rules can be bent or broken.

"don't lie" - unless of course, merely omitting the truth is more tactful

"don't steal" - unless of course, it's the government doing the stealing in the name of social welfare

"don't drink" - unless of course, you're a responsible adult

"don't smoke" - unless of course, etc.

you don't allow children the chance for moral ambiguity because they are incapable of wrestling with the consequences of such a decision

# Whats really being said here? — nubz69 2009-03-17 11:07

" 'Mom, how come I can marry a woman?' And then that led into a lot more questions that, quite frankly, I was not ready to talk to my 6-year-old about." "

She does not say that her child is not ready to learn about this part of life. She says "I was not ready to talk". I can understand that this is a hard subject to discuss with children just as many other related topics can be hard to discuss. I don't understand why this is even an issue. Every parent is responsible for what their child learns about and is exposed to, even though it may sometimes be out of their control. She should have reviewed the game herself first before letting her child play it, if she was so concerned.

# I see. — NickyP 2009-03-17 11:12

So in my understanding jamesbrown900, you are now advocating that parents murder their own children if they are insufficient?

My my, that's lovely of you. I wonder if you're a fan of the Nazi regime?

# Daytime tv's worse — apex05 2009-03-17 11:36

A kid could watch eastenders or coronation street or whatever daytime drama is in each country and learn more about lesbians and gays than any game could show.

# @s10swamper — dd409 2009-03-17 11:41

Aren't you saying the exact same thing in your post? That you're right and Christian's aren't?

Irony ftw.

# @dd409 — PSPZorZ 2009-03-17 11:51

Not sure I understand your reasoning. All swamper said was christians who think that they are right about everything are morons.

He basically said "Christians aren't right about everything", which you interpreted as "Christians are wrong about everything"

# this is the 1st game of life troll I've experienced — Curt Blizzah 2009-03-17 12:11

Thanks for the new encounter; I thought the family bought the game in order to play The Game of Life. I don't get the "ripped off" and "deceptive" comments. What's wrong with the franchise being friendly to gay folks who choose to have a family? What about a kid who chooses a character with a name from the opposite gender? Should that be allowed by the programmers?

I do hear about people who are against homosexuality hiding it from their kids so they never learn to have a choice to be gay or not. How embarrassing can that be for the parents when the people in the church congregation find out later the kids turn out to be gay gay gay! Kids should know about loving relationships at some point in order to warn about and differentiate from pedophilia and abuse. Looks like this parent is blowing a huge opportunity to open up a dialog with their kid about a number of issues. I'm straight, but like and dislike a wide range of folks; preferences of who they love notwithstanding . I'm more disappointed of intolerant persons, however.

# NickyP... — Xeinix 2009-03-17 12:14

You stupid kid. Not only you, the rest of the unrespectful and downright intolerant people here. Grow up and learn to live with other people. If they didn't include this into the game then you would get a gay couple saying that the game is intolerant of people like them.

# :) — mogwai 2009-03-17 12:32

Those were my favourites too.

# dumb — enigmaticdude 2009-03-17 12:50

The title should be renamed

"crazy religious ***** goes insane over something in a board game"

# But... — Justingraziano 2009-03-17 13:01

If Christians get their way television and everything else that does not relate to church will be illegal and a capital crime.

# Religion? — apex05 2009-03-17 13:51

I have no problem with religion as long as it's basic ethics are just used to guide someone to being a better person and not take away their freedom to think for theirself, but things like this just wake up the hardcore bible bashers who have given themself a superiority complex, for all those people out there, it's the 150th anniversary of Darwin's origin of the species and we have something to celebrate.

# Xeinix — NickyP 2009-03-17 15:04

Stupid? Disrespectful? Intolerant?

I've asked a perfectly legitimate question, and the only person who answered it believes in the extermination of "defective people".

I've made no other remarks towards the subject other than that. Perhaps it is you who is the disrespectful stupid one? :)

# Yes, however. — NickyP 2009-03-17 15:13

"Every parent is responsible for what their child learns about and is exposed to, even though it may sometimes be out of their control. She should have reviewed the game herself first before letting her child play it, if she was so concerned."

That is correct, however this isn't quite the problem here. That would apply if a mother bought her child Manhunt or Dead Rising and then was up at arms when she saw all the gore. However, she thought she was buying her daughter an innocent, family game.

Whether you agree with homosexuality or not, really isn't the issue. It's the fact that a more mature message is being conveyed in a place that it shouldn't. In other words, being somewhat deceptive.

# Hmm... — Kingdomkz 2009-03-17 15:54

The laws of the United States were meant to protect the rights of the individual, not the majority. If a woman wants to marry a woman, then she should be able to if she wants to; lesbianism shouldn't have been mentioned at all in this situation, whether or not it was a straight relationship, two adult partners of any sex, marrying each other is the same commitment. So the child's question "How would a woman marry a woman? is irrelevant to the christian mother's complaint because there is no difference; if she truly respects the interests of all relationships she would understand. I think unfortunately *in my own opinion* this was an attempt to stab shockwave.com for not supporting christian practices.

# The Face of Christianity — Kingdomkz 2009-03-17 16:02

Lol. All the christians in my area really piss me off with that, my mother controls my life with it to the point of frustration, and to her I cannot ever reveal how I feel about christianity as she would take everything dear to me away from me. Unfortunately christianity tends to become so inherently evil when it becomes monopolistic and controls people's lives, guess it goes along with social darwinism "Only the strongest survive".

# "How do I marry a Woman" — natalic 2009-03-17 17:24

Is it so hard to lie? Is it that hard to just say "Its a glitch in the game honey." I mean seriously...I'll be probably be bashed for using such logic...But I just don't understand!!! She would understand that...Tell her the game makers were lazy...Stupid people these days...

# NickyP — PotterBoi 2009-03-17 18:24

Okay, NickyP, that is the most ludicrous comparison connection ever. We know that it is bad for us to eat our own feces and we know that it is bad to kill our own kids.

This also falls under the ridiculous "slippery-slope" argument that the "good" Christian people use for saying that with allowing Same-Sex Marriage, what is to stop society from allowing Incest Marriage and Pedophiles Marring their pedophilees (the people they molest). We know that those things are wrong. Incest because it is scientifically wrong and leads to fecked up children with all kinds of problems. And as for pedophilers we know it is morally (and you don't have to be religious to have morals) wrong because of what the parameters that it falls under.

# you dumb? — PotterBoi 2009-03-17 18:35

So, what you are saying then is that since it is a "family friendly" franchise they shouldn't allow same-sex marriage?

What about the family's in same sex marriages?

Wouldn't that be segregating them? I believe it is. It is a game called LIFE and it is a part of life that there are homosexuals that exist. Developers don't want to allianate anyone and I commend them for including the possibility of same-sex marriages.

# You... — PotterBoi 2009-03-17 18:51

You sir are a complete and total idiot. Gay can't be learned, it just is like Straight; People can either be it or not be it from the time they are first conceived. Christianity is anything but truth. Christianity is a choice of faith and that's it. With or without it the world would be the same, heck it probably be a happier place, no crusades in the name of the lord. Christians are the biggest bigots and I can say that because I was raised catholic.

# .... — hypercoyote360 2009-03-17 19:21

Potterboi, not all pedophilia involves molestation/rape, there are consenting 9 year olds out there. Not that they're a majority but it does allow for the argument.

You say we know these things are wrong, how do we know they are wrong? 100's of years ago it was perfectly acceptable to do a lot of things we consider wrong today.

My point is, everyone is their own moral judge unless they rely on some outside source. Christians rely on the Bible for their source. The only thing I can think of that agnostic/atheist people can use is the current laws and what they "feel" is okay. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong (cuz I know someone will).

# whats up — eric_954 2009-03-17 20:57

whats up with all the comments that are dissin christians.christianity is the truth you say it is not because

you are probably athiest or something and you dont wanna see the truth.o and PotterBoi did god design us to be gay no

so it had to be learned in some way which is not the right way.you evil bastards need to stop posting comments about

christians for real.

# Meh — NA1NSXR 2009-03-17 21:44

I'm kind of bored by the Christian bashing. This woman has every right to instill her set of values in her children. Some of us out here not surprisingly, do not accept the moral relativism pushed upon us by TV and magazines. Why is there a war against people who still believe in right and wrong? We aren't exactly fewer in number, even if we aren't as outspoken.

# ahahah — jomacho0 2009-03-18 01:04

It's the mother's fault to play a game that i even haven't heard of. Just get the child a nice GTAIV copy, alot more fun and no gay marriage (i think).

# Orlyeh — hush404 2009-03-18 01:43

Ok I get ya. When dealing with "Don't Steal, Lie, etc" but telling children that there is one and only one way of loving - the heterosexual way and anything else is evil? Honestly?

# ... — Zi-Bit 2009-03-18 03:33

You sir, are an absolute hypocrite. Atheism/whatever you wanna call it causes problems too.

# ... — Justingraziano 2009-03-18 07:57

And how does atheism cause problems? Only by religious idiots that don't like it. Believe it or not I'm not an atheist, I believe in a God, I just don't follow religion as religion is man made and thus can be completely false. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that gays are born gay and the reason is to reduce population yet your average Christian simply cant process that through their close minded little brains. And, of course, it's not just Christians, its all religions. Christians just happen to be the most pro-discrimination. The rest of them tend to cause other, non-discrimination related, problems.

# you would have a point — Stealth! 2009-03-18 09:31

If the child was actually around a 10 years old.

The point is, she's a 6 year old, basically a baby. While maybe she overreacted a little, she still has a good point.

Personally, 6 year olds shouldn't be learning about or being exposed to this stuff. Hell, you might as well give that kid some porn while she at it, since she's going to learn and be exposed to it some point in the future. See how your point falls here?

# Now I feel bad... — Curt Blizzah 2009-03-18 11:19

I was looking for the secret code to unlock Lesbians in this game, and a 6 year old figured it out first.

To the folks who think homosexuality is a "right or wrong issue": if you think it's wrong, just don't do it. Just like abortion: don't have one, if you don't think it's right. Leave everyone else alone, especially ladies, and let them be judged by your invisible sky-man when they die. It's not your job!

# Aren't the characters sort of... imaginary — Farnesworth 2009-03-19 03:04

If you pick up the card that says marry or whatever, just say your character is a guy, or girl. If they are assigned at the begining, super, take it for what it is. It's a flaw in the game. It's a flaw because the game was made WAY before it was a hot topic issue. It was made during a time when at best it wasn't talked about.

Everyone is all Christians blah blah blah. No, this is about a woman who is hiding behind Christianity to sell her point. Everyone attacks to the straw man while ignoring the point. And the point is that it was originally a flaw in the game. A flaw from the design perspective because I dont think Milton Bradley wanted to cause contraversy.

I highly doubt it was a conspiracy and I highly doubt they can do anything about it. It's probably a design flaw in the game that nobody has cared about for 100+ years!

Yeah, it was originally designed in 1860.

# Strange isn't it — EugeneE 2009-03-19 05:43

I have to agree with joemontana03, in certain religions, people are stoned for being homosexual. In some countries, you can be executed or spend years or even life in prison for being homosexual.

I'm a Christian and I do believe in God but I don't throw it in people's faces. If someone wants to be homosexual, that's their right and it's not my job to tell people that their wrong.

I don't believe in homosexuality but I will not tell someone that's wrong. If someone wants to be homosexual, that's their right.

The mom is upset because the game of life allows same-sex marriages. Well, the game is called The Game Of Life and same-sex marriages are part of life. If the mom won't explain to her daughter about it, she will find out some other way such as school, movies, etc.

# ... — Justingraziano 2009-03-19 08:02

God damn these Christians cant process the fact that HOMOSEXUALITY IS NOT A CHOICE. Please go and look up the word NOT right now.

# No. — FreePlay 2009-03-21 09:34

Because this is how people are born. This is like exposing children to mixed-race marriages.

# ... — FreePlay 2009-03-21 09:40

"Not to get on people's cases too much, but I'm getting offended by all the Christian bashing."

Boo *****ing hoo. Grow a spine.

# Not to harp on it or anything... — FreePlay 2009-03-21 09:42

But "Queer Community" is a self-created label. Everywhere I've been, that's what they call the LBGTS/whatever community.

# ... — FreePlay 2009-03-21 09:44

Atheism cannot CAUSE anything. Atheism has no dogmas, no beliefs, no rules, no philosophy, etc.

It's like saying that problems are caused by people not collecting stamps.

# ... — FreePlay 2009-03-21 09:47

"That is correct, however this isn't quite the problem here. That would apply if a mother bought her child Manhunt or Dead Rising and then was up at arms when she saw all the gore. However, she thought she was buying her daughter an innocent, family game. "

Bull*****. She shouldn't let her daughter play any game until she's done her research.

When you ASSUME, you make an ASS of U and ME.

# ... — FreePlay 2009-03-21 09:49

"Some of us out here not surprisingly, do not accept the moral relativism pushed upon us by TV and magazines."

No, you much prefer Biblical moral relativism.

OT, NT. Same God. In one, you should stone your kids for being unruly. In the other, not so much. It's all relative to the culture and the times.

Because that's how reality works.

# ... — FreePlay 2009-03-21 09:50

FYI, it was never a flaw in the game. The game has graphics of female couples.

# . — jesuschristmonkeyballs 2009-03-22 05:06

damn right, girl on girl is AWESOME,

i think if your gay and your a guy it's a bit weird, because why would you want to stick your thing in another guys poop hole?

Also, why do most of them have the gay voices? You don't see lesbians going around with gay voices, unless i suppose they're butch prison lesbians, in which case will have deep man like voices, and probably like cake.

Oh yeh i played the game of life when i was like 6 aswell, didn't really give a crap about it because it was a board game. I mean, what is this the effing 50s? Does it offend anyone if i go outside and push a hoop with a stick down a dirt road?

I really like articles like this though, you always get funny comments and all the serious people always get fired up.

# WTF!?!?!?!?! — ISOHaven 2009-03-23 10:08

dd409 is right.

1. Christians don't claim to be right about everything.

2. Not every Christian believes 100% in all views of Christianity.

3. Thus he called s10swamper on his ignorance.

The comment s10swamper made was just plain dumb. This article has nothing to do with ALL Christian beliefs or whether they are right or wrong. It has to do with ONE belief and in keeping to the point or rather, staying on topic with his comment then yes he implied that all Christians are wrong and everyone else is right on this one matter.

That is as ignorant as ALL Christians believing they are right.

Also, not only Christians believe homosexuality is wrong. So why is no one bringing that up?

Christians are not alone on this.

Fact - If we snapped out fingers and turned everyone gay, the human race would be become extinct. Thus Homosexuality is NOT NORMAL. Anything NOT NORMAL will always be shunned by the masses.

But, NOT BEING NORMAL is not the same as BEING WRONG.

It simply is not natural and it simply is NOT the way things are suppose to happen. You can not deny that.

But at same time many of us are enlightened enough to believe... "to each his own."

# @hypercoyote360 — Aces In The Palm 2009-03-23 18:31

to consent, you must be aware of the consequences

therefore there is no such thing as a consenting 9 year old.

why do you think they call it "the age of consent"

and morals come from COMMON SENSE

you dont need a feckin bible to teach you common decency

if you do.

you need to get your head read.

# NO — Aces In The Palm 2009-03-23 18:59

IT IS YOU THAT IS BLIND TO THE TRUTH.

www.godisimaginary.com

that site contains 50 proofs of gods non exsistence

find me one bit of undeniable proof that he does

get your head read halfwit

truth is the incredible flying meatball monster made the earth and all life on it.

all hail flying meatball monster !!!!

# WTF!?!?!?!?! — ISOHaven 2009-03-24 05:29

NickyP brought up some very good points. Kudos!!! Not too many people use their head around here.

If animals do it, so can we! That is such a pathetic argument. Last time I checked most animals are UNDER US and for very good reasons.

Male animals screw other male animals for DOMINANCE and STUPIDITY/CONFUSION. Brain check people! How intelligent are they? For a gay man to compare himself to a "gay animal".... hilarious! Knock yourself out moron! Bring yourself to that level!!!! HAHAHAHA!!!!

A female animal will also hump both male and female animals. Again, for DOMINANCE!

Education is key people!!!!

Gay animals....HAHAHAHA!!!!!!! !! Yeah, my chocolate lab is perfectly capable of LIFE CHOICES. HAHAHAHA!!!!!!!

# WTF!?!?!?!?! — ISOHaven 2009-03-24 05:35

"She should have reviewed the game herself"

That is such a copout! Typical nonsense coming from a NON-parent! I don't know what world you live on but the rest of us only have 24 hours in a day around here.

Review every single game our kids ever play from START TO FINISH? That is such BS!

I barely have time to play any games myself, HTF am I going to play all my kids games first for them?

Absolutely NO AMOUNT of research would have enlightened her to the homosexual nature of this game.

It is 100% valid for her to have believe this game was the same board game she's been playing for.... how many years now? Before ME I believe!!!

You guys are reaching so damn far and are pulling back nothing but false nonsense.

# WTF!?!?!?!?! — ISOHaven 2009-03-24 05:39

Once again we find freeplays head clear up his ass.

Stoning kids? Who the hell even mentioned that?

NA1NSXR is 100% right.

This woman has the RIGHT to speak her mind.

This woman has the RIGHT to raise her children as she sees fit.

This woman has the RIGHT to warn other parents about the homosexual nature of this game.

That way when other parents DO RESEARCH the game they can actually find something on it.

Sorry freeplay, this is EVERYONES world, not just yours.

# You f*cking idiot. — FreePlay 2009-03-24 10:40

"Fact - If we snapped out fingers and turned everyone gay, the human race would be become extinct. Thus Homosexuality is NOT NORMAL. Anything NOT NORMAL will always be shunned by the masses."

Fact - If we snapped out fingers and turned everyone female, the human race would be become extinct. Thus being female is NOT NORMAL. Anything NOT NORMAL will always be shunned by the masses.

You goddamn moron!

# LIAR. — FreePlay 2009-03-24 10:43

"Absolutely NO AMOUNT of research would have enlightened her to the homosexual nature of this game."

Her DAUGHTER certainly had no problem finding it, so you're F*CKING WRONG.

# LOL — FreePlay 2009-03-24 10:44

"It is 100% valid for her to have believe this game was the same board game she's been playing for.... how many years now? Before ME I believe!!!"

So it NEVER CROSSED HER MIND to think, "Hey, this game is played with COLORED PEGS THAT REPRESENT PEOPLE. I wonder if, like in THE ACTUAL GAME, you're capable of using TWO PEGS OF THE SAME COLOR?"

What a moron.

# LOL — FreePlay 2009-03-24 10:46

"Stoning kids? Who the hell even mentioned that?"

The Bible, dipsh*t.

# WTF!?!?!?!?! — ISOHaven 2009-03-24 12:14

You fail!!!

Snapping our fingers and making us all turtles would also kill the human race.

Your rebuttal was lame at best.

Apples to apples you moron!

# WTF!?!?!?!?! — ISOHaven 2009-03-24 12:18

Playing the game itself IS NOT RESEARCHING the game BEFORE playing the game. The game itself is not research.

You failed to address ALL of my post at once. Which is easily seen by your failure of a reply.

I hope you know that each of your posts here only further proves how much of an idiot you are and how you are incapable of maintaining a normal mode of thought.

Try to THINK before posting. It'll help you in the long run.

# WTF!?!?!?!?! — ISOHaven 2009-03-24 12:24

You replied to NA1NSXR, you didn't reply to the bible. Nothing in your post was relevant to the comment you replied to.

You are such a jackass when it comes to religious topics. You THINK you know everything and you act like a self-righteous ignorant fool.

You refuse to have a normal adult conversation with anyone and all you ever do is lash out.

When exactly are you going to grow up?

You are NO MORE RIGHT or wrong then religious people are right or wrong.

Get your head out of your ass. Also, you are quoting the OLD testament. Christians do not follow the old testament. So while you're fishing your head out of your ass, go get an education as well!

# You imbecile. — FreePlay 2009-03-25 00:51

The point is that IT ISN'T GOING TO F*CKING HAPPEN YOU IGNORANT SH*T, so USING IT AS AN ARGUMENT IS F*CKING POINTLESS!

# Look, dipsh*t. — FreePlay 2009-03-25 00:53

The mother could have spent FIVE MINUTES PLAYING THE GAME and discovered this. It's her f*cking fault.

Parents have a RESPONSIBILITY to keep things they find objectionable out of their children's hands. Nobody ELSE has a responsibility to NOT MAKE THEM.

# ... — FreePlay 2009-03-25 00:56

"You replied to NA1NSXR, you didn't reply to the bible. Nothing in your post was relevant to the comment you replied to."

Nope, sorry, WRONG. He was arguing against moral relativism, which implies he has an OBJECTIVE moral standard, which (for a Christian) is the BIBLE. Which is FULL of moral relativism.

"You refuse to have a normal adult conversation with anyone and all you ever do is lash out."

When I'm talking to idiots who say stupid sh*t, they don't deserve my respect.

"You are NO MORE RIGHT or wrong then religious people are right or wrong."

Except that they base their morality on a BRONZE AGE MYTH, and I base mine on THE REAL WORLD.

"Get your head out of your ass. Also, you are quoting the OLD testament. Christians do not follow the old testament. So while you're fishing your head out of your ass, go get an education as well! "

Right, because they're MORAL RELATIVISTS. It was okay for SOMEONE ELSE but not for YOU. That's the DEFINITION of moral relativism. Why is this so f*cking hard for you to understand? Are you going to claim that it wasn't the same GOD giving two different sets of rules? Are you going to say that Jesus DIDN'T say that "not one jot nor tittle" would pass from the law until all was completed, thus ENTIRELY NEGATING YOUR CLAIM?

# WTF!?!?!?!?! — ISOHaven 2009-03-25 04:58

No, it's not pointless. It illustrates the point that homosexuality is ANTI-propagation. It goes AGAINST nature.

Gees dude, I can't wait for you explain how much more ignorant you are....this is great stuff!!!

But it's ok. I understand how complicated it is for you to understand such stuff.

# WTF!?!?!?!?! — ISOHaven 2009-03-25 05:08

You are dead wrong.

1. It would have taken longer then 5 minutes to figure that out.

2. Should of, would of, could of. This isn't the point you know nothing jackass. The point is to get the WORD OUT. Which she did. The real problem with you is she was successful and there aint a damn thing you can do about it. That pisses you off something fierce!!!

3. You AGAIN failed to address my ENTIRE POST ALL AT ONCE. There is NO REASON for anyone to think otherwise then this video game being the SAME AS THE BOARD GAME.

So am I supposed to review the instructions for EVERY SINGLE BOARD GAME of life I purchase just to MAKE SURE there are no homosexual references in it? WTF kind of life is that to live? Your argument is PATHETIC!!!! I guess I should also inspect all happy meals and make sure there are no homosexual references in them as well? EVERYONE CHECK EVERYTHING FOR HOMOSEXUAL REFERENCES!!!!! I have no intention of explaining homosexuality to my 6 year old daughter. Not yet. That is too complicated of a NOT NORMAL subject for her to understand. She'll learn about ALTERNATIVE once she learns about NORMAL reproductive means.

Keep it coming man! This stuff is great!!!

# WTF!?!?!?!?! — ISOHaven 2009-03-25 05:20

Nope, sorry, WRONG. He was arguing against moral relativism,

"which implies he has an OBJECTIVE moral standard, which (for a Christian) is the BIBLE. Which is FULL of moral relativism."

Nope, sorry, WRONG! It does NOT imply that at all. That was YOUR ASSumption.

"do not accept the moral relativism pushed upon us by TV and magazines"

That is the comment. The BS you added into it was just that. BS!

"When I'm talking to idiots who say stupid sh*t, they don't deserve my respect."

Everything said by anyone is stupid shlt then based on your actions. Also, everything EVERYONE EVER SAYS that goes AGAINST your religious beliefs must be the same. Because you acts like this 100% of the time in religious articles. Facts are facts man....you're an ahole!

"Except that they base their morality on a BRONZE AGE MYTH, and I base mine on THE REAL WORLD."

Wrong! Theirs is based on faith. You base yours on the same anti-religious crap from since the beginning of religion. So you as well bases your morality on BRONZE AGE MYTH.

FACT - you have NO PROOF of there being NO GOD.

Like I said. You are no more right or wrong then they are. You can cry about it otherwise all day long. That FACT wont change.

"Right, because they're MORAL RELATIVISTS. It was okay for SOMEONE ELSE but not for YOU. That's the DEFINITION of moral relativism. Why is this so f*cking hard for you to understand?"

I understand it just fine. NO ONE HERE BESIDES YOU IS ARGUING THAT. "moral relativism pushed upon us by TV and magazines" - See that comment? Why is this "so f*cking hard for you to understand?"

"Are you going to claim that it wasn't the same GOD giving two different sets of rules?"

I make no claims either way. However, you FAILED AGAIN to address my post. CHRISTIANS DO NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT FOLLOW THE OLD TESTAMENT. PERIOD!!!

YOU FAIL!

"Are you going to say that Jesus DIDN'T say that "not one jot nor tittle" would pass from the law until all was completed"

Honestly, I don't give a damn. WTF is your point? Do you think I'm Christian? Get a clue man!!!!

"thus ENTIRELY NEGATING YOUR CLAIM?"

Which claim!?!?! Nothing you said here negates ANYTHING I've said.

# ... — FreePlay 2009-03-25 10:27

"No, it's not pointless. It illustrates the point that homosexuality is ANTI-propagation. It goes AGAINST nature."

And it's based on a FALSE PREMISE OF SOMETHING THAT IS IMPOSSIBLE, so it's a F*CKING POINTLESS ARGUMENT.

# LOL — FreePlay 2009-03-25 10:31

"It would have taken longer then 5 minutes to figure that out."

THE DAUGHTER FIGURED IT OUT. Are you saying that the woman's DAUGHTER is more intelligent than she is?

"Should of, would of, could of. This isn't the point you know nothing jackass. The point is to get the WORD OUT. Which she did. The real problem with you is she was successful and there aint a damn thing you can do about it. That pisses you off something fierce!!!"

Successful my ass! The game is still being sold. She f*cking failed, c*cksniffer.

"You AGAIN failed to address my ENTIRE POST ALL AT ONCE. There is NO REASON for anyone to think otherwise then this video game being the SAME AS THE BOARD GAME."

And it IS the same as the board game, you worthless sh*tstain! You can put FOUR PINK PEGS in the car at the beginning if you want. You're PHYSICALLY CAPABLE OF DOING THAT. The game is MORE RESTRICTIVE, limiting you to only TWO.

Why don't you f*cking own up and admit that this is an instance of a woman WANTING SOMEONE ELSE TO DO THE GODDAMN PARENTING FOR HER?

# LOL — FreePlay 2009-03-25 10:39

"Nope, sorry, WRONG! It does NOT imply that at all. That was YOUR ASSumption."

Are you goddamn serious? He's arguing AGAINST MORAL RELATIVISM. There are ONLY TWO OPTIONS: Moral relativism or objective morality. ARGUING AGAINST ONE IS ARGUING FOR THE OTHER. I'm sorry this concept is over your thick head.

"Everything said by anyone is stupid shlt then based on your actions. Also, everything EVERYONE EVER SAYS that goes AGAINST your religious beliefs must be the same. Because you acts like this 100% of the time in religious articles. Facts are facts man....you're an ahole!"

Facts are facts man... anyone who bases moral decisions on MYTHOLOGY is a MORON.

"Wrong! Theirs is based on faith. You base yours on the same anti-religious crap from since the beginning of religion. So you as well bases your morality on BRONZE AGE MYTH."

Uh, NO. I base my morality on THE COMMON GOOD and BEING A PART OF SOCIETY. You know... things that are actually WORTHWHILE.

"FACT - you have NO PROOF of there being NO GOD."

FACT - you have NO PROOF of there being NO LEPRECHAUNS. Give me some f*cking evidence that there IS a God. You're the one making the positive claim - THE BURDEN OF PROOF IS ON YOU.

"Like I said. You are no more right or wrong then they are. You can cry about it otherwise all day long. That FACT wont change."

If I see a plastic bottle that shrank overnight because it got cold, I can either LEARN WHAT ACTUALLY HAPPENED or draw a parallel to the fact that my balls shrivel up when they get cold. Yes, they're BOTH CORRECT - it's due to the cold. But I am MORE RIGHT because I actually THINK about what the answer is rather than just plug my f*cking ears and believe mythology.

"I make no claims either way. However, you FAILED AGAIN to address my post. CHRISTIANS DO NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT FOLLOW THE OLD TESTAMENT. PERIOD!!!"

Matthew 5:18, you Biblically-illiterate fool.

"Honestly, I don't give a damn. WTF is your point? Do you think I'm Christian? Get a clue man!!!!"

You have said that you are. Are you going to LIE to me now?

"Which claim!?!?! Nothing you said here negates ANYTHING I've said."

WRONG, you GODDAMN MORON. Matthew 5:18 is a verse they love to IGNORE, since in it Jesus says that THE WHOLE LAW OF THE OLD TESTAMENT STILL APPLIES. You said Christians don't follow the Old Testament. Yet they ARGUE FOR THE TEN COMMANDMENTS TO BE PUT IN SCHOOLS AND COURTHOUSES, and they use Leviticus to hate homosexuals (just like you do).

Which is IRRELEVANT, because they claim that the OT and NT gods are the SAME BEING, yet they have DIFFERENT LAWS FOR DIFFERENT PEOPLE. That is the DEFINITION of moral relativism, which is EXACTLY WHAT THE OP WAS SAYING HE OPPOSED. Yet his RELIGIOUS BELIEFS support it.

Learn to connect PREMISES AND CONCLUSIONS, you IGNORANT FOOL!

# WTF!?!?!?!?! — ISOHaven 2009-03-25 11:31

Thank you for proving you did NOT understand. It was NOT an argument. It was an illustration.

Also, my last point remains fully intact. Try again! But first learn the difference between the two. I'm getting sick and tired of having to school you.

# WTF!?!?!?!?! — ISOHaven 2009-03-25 11:38

"THE DAUGHTER FIGURED IT OUT. Are you saying that the woman's DAUGHTER is more intelligent than she is?"

No you moron. I said it would take longer then FIVE MINUTES worth of playing to have found it. LEARN TO READ JACKASS!!!!

"Successful my ass! The game is still being sold. She f*cking failed, c*cksniffer."

Wow, you just proved your level of intelligence with THIS ONE!!! Who said her goal was to remove the game from the shelves? You are SO GOD DAMN DUMB!!!! The goal is to let people know what is IN THE GAME. She is 100% successful.

And it IS the same as the board game, you worthless sh*tstain! You can put FOUR PINK PEGS in the car at the beginning if you want. You're PHYSICALLY CAPABLE OF DOING THAT. The game is MORE RESTRICTIVE, limiting you to only TWO."

Wrong again moron. Nothing is the TEXT of the intructions states or discusses homosexuality.

Seems to me they left the option up to the player. I've not played the game to see for myself. Either way it shouldn't have been an option.

"Why don't you f*cking own up and admit that this is an instance of a woman WANTING SOMEONE ELSE TO DO THE GODDAMN PARENTING FOR HER?"

Why would I own up to that? I've not read anything that claims that's what she wants. Had the box claimed HOMOSEXUAL REFFERENCE then she wouldn't have anything to cry about. Not all parents can play all games from finish to end to see what hidden evils are found inside. That will never happen and can never happen. We require proper labeling to educate us on the software.

# WTF!?!?!?!?! — ISOHaven 2009-03-25 11:55

"Are you goddamn serious? He's arguing AGAINST MORAL RELATIVISM."

You are such a fool:

"In philosophy moral relativism is the position that moral or ethical propositions do not reflect objective and/or universal moral truths, but instead make claims relative to social, cultural, historical or personal circumstances"

He stated "moral relativism pushed upon us by TV and magazines". I'm sorry you can't get THAT through YOUR thick head.

"Facts are facts man... anyone who bases moral decisions on MYTHOLOGY is a MORON."

That's not a fact you jackass. That's your OPINION. This is why people think you are such a JACKASS!!!! You are no better or worse then Mr. Common Douche Bag. You claim your opinions as FACT!

"Uh, NO. I base my morality on THE COMMON GOOD and BEING A PART OF SOCIETY. You know... things that are actually WORTHWHILE."

Again, WORTHWHILE is YOUR OPINION.

"FACT - you have NO PROOF of there being NO LEPRECHAUNS. Give me some f*cking evidence that there IS a God. You're the one making the positive claim - THE BURDEN OF PROOF IS ON YOU."

Why should I. There is no proof either way. As well I can not argue that there are NO leprechauns any more then I can argue there are. This is why you FAIL!!!!

"I make no claims either way. However, you FAILED AGAIN to address my post. CHRISTIANS DO NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT FOLLOW THE OLD TESTAMENT. PERIOD!!!"

"Matthew 5:18, you Biblically-illiterate fool."

What about it you moron? That says nothing about Christians following the OLD testament. The old testament was REJECTED by Christianity. Like I said, go educate yourself!!!!

Here's a quick little quote for your ignorant @ss:

"The key to understanding this issue is knowing that the Old Testament Law was given to the nation of Israel, not to Christians."

That doesn't mean Christians shouldn't study the old testament. Knowledge is power. Something you lack VERY MUCH!!!!

"You have said that you are. Are you going to LIE to me now?"

I'm Catholic you jackass. Next you're going to tell me it's the same thing!

"Which claim!?!?! Nothing you said here negates ANYTHING I've said."

WRONG, you GODDAMN MORON. Matthew 5:18 is a verse they love to IGNORE, since in it Jesus says that THE WHOLE LAW OF THE OLD TESTAMENT STILL APPLIES. You said Christians don't follow the Old Testament. Yet they ARGUE FOR THE TEN COMMANDMENTS TO BE PUT IN SCHOOLS AND COURTHOUSES, and they use Leviticus to hate homosexuals (just like you do).

This is where you turn into a douche bag. I do NOT hate homosexuals. My best friend is gay. I have tons of gay friends. They know exactly where I stand and they accept that. So for you come out and claim I hate homosexuals, makes you the lowest form of scum around here.

As for Matthew 5:18, you have a GREAT misunderstandin g of it. Go back and read fool. Unless you want to claim that the Christian bible cancels itself. Stone HER!!!, He who has never sined may cast the first stone. Can't have it both ways.

Let us know when you figure it out.

"which is EXACTLY WHAT THE OP WAS SAYING HE OPPOSED."

No, he did not. Go back and read moron!

Come on, bring on some more!!!! I love turning you into the same damn fool I turned Mr. Douche Bag into.

# @isohaven — Aces In The Palm 2009-03-25 14:51

I barely have time to play any games myself, HTF am I going to play all my kids games first for them?

you sure have enough time to visit QJ everyday

maybe if that time was spent with your kids?

# the above wasnt meant to be a personal dig — Aces In The Palm 2009-03-25 15:00

i'm just saying

i hear alot of parents say "i dont have the time"

it's a load of crap

if you got time for QJ and the many other sites you visit, then you have time to review your kids games.

you do have time. you choose to spend it here

# WTF!?!?!?!?! — ISOHaven 2009-03-26 07:11

Well then, let me explain it to you. I work 10-12 hours shifts. But I only work 8 hours. That's 2-4 hours worth of breaks/meals every day because I have to be on site open to close. Consider it on-call.

That's why I visit news sites. I comment the hell out of gizmodo as well. I used be a mod at psp-hacks but that was way too time consuming. I also used to frequent newsgroups but got sick of the trolls.

In conclusion. No, I do not have time to play all my kids games for them before they play them. The average parent doesn't. Nor can I watch ALL their movies before them either. We rely on proper LABELING to know what the product is that sits in our hands.

But at the same time I would have enough of a brain to tell my 6 year old daughter... hum..the game is broken... oh well.

I'm not saying this women is the smartest thing in the galaxy. Quit the opposite!!! But throwing homosexuality into a kids game...lame! Even though plenty of adults play this game as well.

Honestly, a 6 year old has no clue how to play this game. Even if you walked them through it, the full value wont be there.

I went home last night and looked at my game box and it says 9+. So I give this gal 1 failure point!!!! I assume the video game is the same?

# yeah — Aces In The Palm 2009-03-26 20:17

thats why i wanted to point out that it wasnt a personal dig at you

i live in a gold mining town where people do 12 to 14 hours a day not including travel to sites.

i enjoy reading your posts

and your rival freeplays comments are always worth a read as well

i was just pointing out that when most parents say i dont have the time. it is a load of crap

anyhow friend, take it weasy and look after yourself

# WTF!?!?!?!?! — ISOHaven 2009-03-27 08:27

Oh I agree. A lot of parents are full of it. Well a lot of people are full of it in general.

# HAHAHA — yarod_g14 2009-04-01 08:58

I wish I had the time to read all this today and argue with all the Christnies.

What a crock though, whats the difference between explaining men and women or men and men or any combination. Sounds like she told her kid that being gay was WRONG already!! So when kid sees same sex relationships it in the REAL world not her Christian Brain world she is stuck! Is it really that hard to believe? I was having arguments like this 10 years ago are we all going backwards or something?

Seriously people like this are so ignorant, they have no business raising children.

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