What about us poor kids who cant get jobs, spend all our money on the console and get two games each year (birthday and christmas). We miss out on so many games without piracy. Once i get a job i'll stop but we need games.

but now something else peerguardian can hopefully help protect us from......

Yeah, CodeMasters made a big wrong move here. Now, PG2 will be updated with every company IP they use.. Which will hurt their business in the long run. It sucks for people who didn't really download things but get stuck with the bill because of the dynamic IP addresses their ISP hands out. Well, if it comes down to it, we can all start using a $10-15/mo VPN for our illegals. =D

If you can do that hacking without getting caught, why not ?



God knows I would

I recieved a letter about the same crap but has been a while over dub edition for xbox some racing game i think

lol either case



never did download it told them to kiss my butt nothing ever became of it



had my ip blah blah blah some file name linked to a BT site that I never downloaded from but they said I did



shrugs

We make Crappy games and no one wants to buy them.



Codemaster's Finacial Guru: I know we can still make a profit, we just have to spend alot of tax refundable capital on piracy (LOL) then claim that as a business expense!!



Make good games and people will Pay for them, and not just dload and say THIS SUCKS! Good thing I saved money by not beta testing this crap

Like SONY with the "OFW that is going to be UN Hackable" lol

Yeah Piracy is allways giong to exist I mean MG and RS, The can't just delete those files because that Person is paying for that space and its legal , so Piracy is always been there so is just that they were going to stop a little some webs, thats all, some peer to peer ones, theres like thousands and thousands of Piracy Websites so WTF! Codemaster is going to Be the Maximum empire and hack all Websites and delete all of its contents! lol Well don't worry keep doing what u do guys!!

Please, proof read what you type. The above sentence made no sense. (Yes, it's pretty much one sentence.) Also, they never said they would start "hacking and delete those files", just they they would sue the people who did it. Am I the only one who can't understand 3/4 of that?

just about everyone has the internet today. there are about 7 billion people in the world and a good portion of them will download something illegally at some point or another. they cant stop everyone because they have to provide the prosecution attorney to try every person. the legal fees would bankrupt them and not equal out to the return. this is only hurting them and is mostly a scare tactic. download what you want, unless you've stolen terabytes or material then you aren't in too much danger. also, who the hell are they?

i would never buy a psp game! lol! they suck too bad to pay for them, sept loco roco, bravestory and logans shadow, and all the movies.

Just like with the big Napster suit, and a bunch of greedy corporations (yes greedy, video games and movies are *BOOMING* in sales, higher than any year before) wanting the US gov to make criminals out of 5 million otherwise law abiding citizens. Luckily, the Supreme Court told them to get over themselves.

You should get into PC gaming before you knock it. We can tell that you're a fanbot, and that's nice and all, but it's pretty obvious you don't know what you're talking about. For the same price you paid for your PS3 I could build a gaming PC that would kill a PS3. Blu-ray is the future? I thought HD-DVD was killing it - there are 5 standalone HD-DVD players in customer homes worldwide for every 1 standalone Blu-Ray player. Too bad Sony didn't handle the PS3 as well as MS handled the 360, huh? Nobody wants to code for the cell processor because Sony provided no dev tools at all. It's wildly different that coding for any other system. The PS3 could have God's brain as a processor - too bad it only gets ported games from other systems and 1 or 2 above-decent games a year...

I guess these guys need to flaunt there big egos thinking they can achieve the unattainable. I mean piracy will continue hell look at those bootleg movies thats the same thing yet that hasn't been stop yet, neither has the black market so there just talking out of their A$$.

What does that post have to do with the terrorism story? (i.e. the codemasters terrorist brigade)

Oh and one other thing,



Blu-ray IS leading right now worldwide (MS suffers heavily outside the united states). Yea there's a 5-1 HD-DVD to Blu-Ray ratio of "STANDALONE" players. But you're missing one huge detail, THE PS3. Consumer's would rather buy a ps3 any day over a standalone which can cost over twice as much and do half the stuff a ps3 can do. And if you haven't noticed, reports of blockbuster and other stores are coming in saying that they are dropping the HD-DVD format for the Blu-ray because of higher sales of blu-ray. You would be surprised at how intelligently and clever SONY handled the ps3, you think its just coincidence that their own standalone blu-ray players are so much more expensive than the ps3. It's an obvious marketing gimmick, to get a larger install base ofcourse. And with their recent price drops (and more to come as analyst say) PS3 is quickly doing what it's former brethren did during their reign.

I love how you talk to everyone in a condescending way, like you're some kind of genius, when your idiocy is plain throughout your entire post.



Was it a joke by any chance? If it was, congratz, it was HILARIOUS. If it wasn't, I pity you.



To QJ, what is with all the spelling errors in this article? Threats? Costumers? Proof-read and use spell-check next time Ryan A.

Bungie'3 Halo 3 was available at numerous torrent sites long before the official release. However MS ability to see if people are running copies or using hacked consoles meant that the number of people that actually d'ld the files was very very low.

One Ahole stated that its only a crime if your caught??? all i can say is get a life.

or should i say I will come rob your appartment when your out for a beer, its cool , this is not a crime because i can get away with it?

whatever, the real unfortunate thing about the whole issue is that there are some very good torrent sites and many offer an avenue to Film music and opinion that is often banned by our local authorities. That these sites have people posting items that others feel is damaging their potential earnings is a problem but not one that can be stopped with lawsuits. The lawsuits force many sites to close down. This is for me offensive as many sites offer a freedom of voice opinion and material that others governments often try to negate.

When this happens all that is left is a governmental grey soup of BS and sites that are genuinely offensive and should be closed down.

When the future will be pay per play I can only assume that those that are trying to stop the inevitable are just damaging the future possibilites.

I feel that these companies should embrace the technology and work with it to find a suitable manner in which to protect their intellectual rights rather than just lash out and bash at the systems that if used well would be to their benefit.

I purchased Halflife a few years ago and once installed had to visit the website. I typed in my serial number and received via e-mail the code to activate my game. It worked perfectly and the system was secure. I had my game, developers got their money.

Codemasters, go get some internet savvy people in your employee ranks rather than just developers and shareholders that cry that their ROI is not as high as expected.

I believe there's ONE way for the pig dogs to win the piracy war:



Make a game console that uses completely propriety optical media! And, allow no use of memory sticks, besides the internal ones, and they should only support at most 16 MB (with ZIP compression, 16 MB is more than enough). Or, if they'll be external, then they'd better be proprietry (i.e. a VMU or something like the PS1-2's weird propriety memory cards). Also, no USB ports... They're an open invitation to piracy!!! Note that the PSP would have been hack proof... IF it didn't have it's weak link: the universal memory stick pro duo...



Likewise, if all the directions above are followed, it'll be impossible to do piracy, or at least impossible for the average user. For example: the game cube was a prime candidate for being hack proof... BUT, they used a regular DVD drive... so pirates immediate took advantage of that fact and h4xxed it. Also, do not tell me "What about the nintendo DS? It uses nothing you mentioned above, but it still got hacked!"



Exactly... that's why I said that it should only use OPTICAL media. Good luck inserting an ISO filled memory stick onto the optical media...



As far as I know, the only way that you can beat such a system is by making a "freeloader" or "swapmagic" type system. Of course, even this is hard to do, since if they're using propriety optical media, good luck finding a suitable burner to make it....



So yeah, kind of like the blue ray post above mine... since people don't have bluray, they can't make pirated games (although, as time has showed us before, the first cracks will involve people releasing ripped copies that will fit on DVD-DL, which CAN be read on the PS3; just as the "uncrackable" DC was cracked because it was able to read CD-Rs...



Oh yeah, and in addition, there will have to be an un-universal connector to which you'll have to connect a propriety router... That way, none of that "streaming over wifi" crap that some people will try to pull.



So, provided that



a. the system uses unique optical media (like the sony "universal" media drive)



b. Does NOT allow for any outside connections (no USB/Firewire)



c. Does NOT use universal media for input (memory sticks, or in XBOX's case, USB flash drives)



d. Has some kind of anti swapping mechanism (such as forcing the console off... AND ERASING ANY SYSTEM RAM... upon the drive being opened)



e. If it shares any optical drive abilities (such as playing blu ray or DVD movies), then they must have a ROM chip that allows it to function only while the console is in a crippled "DVD only" state, where the graphics card is not enabled completely, thus removing any chances of people trying to use the DVD portion of the console to play pirated games. Basically, if Sony didn't do this, expect the first pirated games to be RIPPED ISOS that run off of DVD-DL media!



f. a strict online system, which will not allow any "weird" data to flow to the console. If it doesn't seem like signed (?encrypted?) data streaming from a legitimate online session, then the console will reject it. Thus, people can't use the Phantasy Star streaming method that they used on the Game Cube.



Thus, even with internal modchips installed, unless the modchip somehow miraculously allows games to run off of the internal harddrive (...how are you going to put games in that harddrive anyhow, considering how there's no interface for you to connect your PC or any custom media to it?), the system will be pretty much hack proof. Of course, there's only one way to do it: if the modchip has like 10 GB of onboard storage, then it can inject some code to force the console to run the game... but come on... who's gonna open/close their video game system each time they want to play a different game?....



Of course, if you can find a way to hack this system, please, do tell me. As far as I know, this procedure, while adding an extra $20 to each system, will make it very hack proof.



Let's just hope that none of the companies are reading this. If the

Here's an example I came up with...

Imagine this scenario:



You are in a poor village. Your neighbor has a well, and at night he burns a nice warm fire in front of his house. No one else can afford fire, but only he has it, and he sells it for outrageous prices...



Anyhow, one day, you're really thirsty. You have a little bit of money, and consider buying a bottle of water from the local merchant. However, you realize that you can get the water for cheaper, if you just steal it from the neighbor. In addition to that, you go and get some more, and share it with your livestock and your friends. Is this theft? Heck ya! Because



a. you were going to spend money on it, but decided not to, just to save some money. (likewise, if you KNOW you needed some software, and you pirate just to save money, that's theft)

b. the neighbor has lost a portion of his water! he has incurred an actual loss!



Likewise, this is the same thing as going to a store, and stealing a CD or a DVD physically.



Now, later that night, it gets really, really cold. You have a blanket, and it's ok. You notice the neighbor is being a capitalistic pig dog, and is offering to sell rights to allowing you to sit by the fire. However, you aren't entitled to take any of the fire to your house (via lanterns, for example) because he says that's "piracy", since he made the fire, and he has all rights to it. You decide that this is stupid. He has unlimited fire, and he doesn't lose anything if you steal it, since it's not something you were going to buy anyway (like the water from earlier). So, you sneak out, sit by the fire when he's not looking, and grab a stick from your house, and light your own fireplace. You then share this fire with all your friends.



Is this theft? The capitalistic pig dog neighbor would say "Yes, because you stole my fire. I made the fire, so you owe me money", while the pirates would say "Hey, wait a minute! You lost nothing! You've still got an unlimited amount of fire right there! I wasn't going to buy the stuff to begin with, so it's not like you're losing any money!"



I tend to side with the fire side of the story: the pig dogs lose no money when software is being pirated. However, if you were going to buy a game, BUY IT! Example: the only game I think is good is Brawl. Thus, I'll probably buy it. All the other games... I wasn't planning on buying them, so while my sporadic piracy allows me to get a "profit", at the same time, the companies aren't going to lose anything, since either way I wasn't going to buy it.

Speaking of condescending...

Well, what I was trying to say is that "intellectual rights" seems kinda stupid to me. If you steal a physical CD, I think that's wrong: they paid to make the CD, so if you steal one, that's one less CD available for them to sell... Just like the well that'll eventually get empty if enough theft occurs.



BUT, if you steal the actual code, of which they have an unlimited supply of, (like the fire), then screw it, it's not really theft or if it is, it's not immoral.

I pirate because my UMD tray is knackered, and I don't fancy buying another PSP just for that reason. If Sony offered a download system for games, or games on mem sticks, then I'd gladly pay for the ones I like. I'd still pirate, but as a post above me said, just for testing reasons.

SO TRUE LOLOLOL

people pirate games, because they cost too much. how much does a developer make??

i have read they make 9bucks an hour.

i have over 100 psp iso's and cso's... and allmost all of them suck. i support piracy, because MOST of the games duck donkeynutz, and they aren't worth 2 squirl farts. i cant wait to get a 360 mod chip. 60 bucks for a game? halo 3 SUCKED. i beat it in 1 day, and i didn't even play all night! games are overpriced, and untill they get reasonable, pirates (AND ME) will continue to rape them all day