Why don't they all just F-OFF and leave us gamers to our games!

i'm tired of this.I mean iam 15 years old and i play violent games since 12 and i not even an agressive person, i don't kill people or animals.I really hate guys like this.





Ps:some games that i've played: Gta:Vice City Stories & GTA:vice city, gta:liberty city stories & gta:liberty city, gta:san andreas, counter-strike:codition zero, couter-strike:source, half life 1 & 2, half-life 2:deathmatch, postal 2, teken:dark resurrection and the godfather (limited edition :D) and many more.

Hopefully in the future we'll have a more educated system when it comes to ratings and games. Many people play Mature rated games and are underage to purchase them, yet never have problems.. I remember I was playing Resident Evil back when I was a kid and it was released on Playstation. I know what's right and what's wrong, and I also didn't have the happiest childhood.



Ratings should move past age and move towards mental health. Just because someone is old enough to buy a Mature rated game doesn't mean they're mentally stable enough to handle the content, and even then if they've been sheltered from the violence, or the sexual content being displayed it could be more damaging then if they're exposed to it throughout their life so then they at least understand what they're seeing.



If parents don't want their child playing a specific game, or any game, then they have the right do put their foot down and not allow them to do so. They don't have the right do speak for other people and tell others that they shouldn't release a game just because they don't want their kid playing it. It's called PARENTING, and many of them are failing at it.

"Ultra-violent" is WAY too goddamn overused in modern press.



I think the term was meant to be kind-of-joking when it was used in A Clockwork Orange

Dude, has anybody even played this game yet? I played it for about 3 hours yesterday and it isn't even that violent. They totally edited out all the killings. Seriously, I think that Resident Evil 4 and some of the old school Mortal Kombat games are more violent. Honestly it is more like splinter cell (Completely stealth), rather than some "murder simulator". It amazes me that the UK still banned this game. But you know how it is, the main issue is never with the actual controversy itself, but always friggin politics!

Woot already hae my copy

I have to admit most of the time these "I hate video games" people are just ridiculous, but I actually agree with them about Manhunt 2. I've seen videos about this game and all I can say is if I had kids and saw them playing this game I would go nuts. This game has the most violence I have ever seen.



Now some of you reading this are probably thinking "Well, stores won't sell these games to minors so they cant get their hands on it." Do those of you really believe that kids cant find a way to get ahold of this game? When it comes to restrictions, kids have always found ways to get around them. An, example of this would be cigarettes. Kids ask adults to go inside stores to buy them cigarettes and pay the adult a fee for their service. Still dont believe me? Think about it this way, have you ever done something as a child such as sneak out past curfew or even look at pornography even though you knew you weren't supposed to?



Still, even after all that some believe that it is the parent's responsibility to handle this, and their right. But something terrible happened recently that I saw on the news. A thirteen year old kid was playing video games when his mother came in to tell him he had to do the dishes. He confronted the mother and after some arguing, the sixteen year old brother stepped in between them. The younger brother got so angry that he grabbed a letter opener and stabbed his brother in the head. The older brother is now in critical condition, while the younger brother is faced with a minimum of 21 years in prison. How was the mother supposed to know her child was going to react this way? She didn't, and no one ever does. I mean how could this mother ever believe that her thirteen year old son who she raised in her arms would commit such a violent act? Granted this is one of those isolated instances, but if regular game such as Halo or even Socom can cause this kind of intense violence, I'm afraid of what Manhunt 2 will cause.

Things like this piss me off. I've been playing Video Games since I was 4, First video game I played was Doom. Ever since, I've been playing so many "Violent" video games and it hasn't had one negative effect on me. It's just fun, I'm not "De-sensitised" and I've never had any thoughts about going on a crazy rampage. Kids are always looked down on, They aren't that stupid, they CAN make their own decisions. Eg, I'm only 12, I still make my own decisions not to watch ***** that might scare me or something. With that, I say - Thanks for your time.

You sir, are an idiot.



I want my violent games and no one has the right to tell me to not play them. Last time I checked the freedom of speech was still in the constitution. All this anti-videogame violence propaganda is a way for the senators like the *****head in the post above to score points and win their political games.



Yes. No one can stop kids from getting their hands on the violent video games and that is why it's up to the PARENTS to stop them. And yes, the parents CAN stop them. That is the whole point. The ESRB rating system is not the Ten Commandments set in stone. They are an informative approach to let the parents know what is right for their children and what is not and give them the right to choose for their kids.



Parents need to GET OFF THEIR ASSES and start putting some goddamn WORK into their kids. The mother and father both work like slaves all day and all night to pay off the grand old 3 storey House they just bought and the freaking kid grows up in a day-care centre. This is the story of 90% American homes in this country.



And no, you are dead wrong in saying that the 13 year old kid stabbing his brother has ANYTHING to do with him playing a video game. Imagine for a moment that video games do not exist. Now honestly tell me what is stopping the kid from watching Porn on the internet? R-Rated or even X-Rated movies? Violence in movies is 10 times worse than the violence in Video Games and don't even get me started on how FREELY porn is available on the internet. Can you honestly tell me to my face that instead of playing a Video Game if that kid was watching a movie and his mom told him to do the dishes he wouldn't react in the same way? No you cannot. Because you don't know. The way the kid reacted that way has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with him playing a video game. The problem lies in how the kid was raised and the fault lies solely on his upbringing and hence the Parents.



This is the problem in this country. Since in tragedies most parents seem like victims people are shaky when it comes to putting the blame unto supposed victims. But in fact, it is the parents' fault. So all the stupid ass parents who are not letting their kids play video games GROW SOME BALLS and RAISE YOUR KIDS RIGHT. By not letting them play video games you might think you're doing something very good but in fact you are emotionally destroying your children from the inside and they are MUCH more likely to grow up to be someone they are not and do something stupid.



So shut the eff up AND LEAVE OUR VIDEO GAMES BE.

Let me start off first by saying that insulting someone is not a way for others to respect your opinion. Now if you had completely disagreed with everything I had said and not called me an "idiot" or a "*****head," I would have respected your opinion, but now that you've made a fool of yourself I can begin with once again stating my opinion.





1.Where exactly do I "...score points...?" Yes, I did take it out of context, but if you dont believe me, just read his post. What do I have to prove to anyone and how exactly do I benefit from all of this? Now obviously I can tell that your not calling me a politician, but just because I posted a reply about my concerns for violent video games doesn't mean I'm going to win some sort of Nobel Peace Prize.



2. You kind of proved yourself wrong on this one. Try reading this one more time for me. "No one can stop kids from getting their hands on the violent video games and that is why it's up to the PARENTS to stop them" What? If no one can stop the kids, who can? Anyways, what's with you talking about the ESRB rating? The problem isn't that parents are buying the games, its that the kids are buying the games. The parents are refusing to purchase the games, but the problem is that child will just go out like I said before and pay some guy to buy the game for him. Obviously the kid isn't going to play the game infront of his parents. It's almost the same thing when teenagers do drugs.



3.Okay now here your just being ridiculous. Where exactly did you get your stats again? Did you make Americans take some sort of survey? I was not aware of this. I'm also sure that you included those in poverty in your stats. Because you know, their three story house is all they have left.



4.Yes the fact that the boy was playing the video game was the reason why the boy killed his brother. I can say this because I've seen kids who play video games and go crazy just because they were killed in the game. Now you just imagine for a moment that a kid is sitting there playing his games and he is just about to win the game. Now here comes his mother telling him to get off the game and he continues to play anyway. She gets tired of the way he's acting and decides to turn of the game, making the boy lose the game. Now that boy is going to be more than just upset, he is furious. Haven't you seen those videos of the kids screaming at the game? You cannot tell me that the game had no influence in that. Most of the time that's where it ends. The boy is grounded for his outburst and the mother takes the game away. But in the case I brought up, the boy tried to kill his brother because his blind rage made him just grab anything close by and stab his brother. Remember that angry German kid video? You know the one with the kid going nuts over something like WOW? What would of happened if that his mother had walked in anytime between that and asked him to do something? Do you really believe that the kid is going to get right out of his chair and and do as he's told? Also, its somehow the parent's fault because the child doesn't like to do the dishes? Come on now. Another thing, if his mother had told him to do the dishes, what's he gonna say? "No mom, I'm looking at porn right now!" What? Jeez this is getting boring. Once again, sure a child would be upset if to say he were watching a regular movie, but when one plays a video game they tend to be more focused as to where during a movie one tends to lean back more. When someone intrudes on a child playing a game, he's more likely to react more violently. Now, I'm not able to prove this because I don't have the time, but I'm sure you can agree with with me when I say the reactions would be different.



5.Oh my God, I have not read such garbage. To sum up what you said in this paragraph would be that the reason why kids are acting violently is because the parents are restricting them from playing video games. Huh? I'm guessing that from paragraph three you just kind of started ranting from there on out because your first two p

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5.Oh my God, I have not read such garbage. To sum up what you said in this paragraph would be that the reason why kids are acting violently is because the parents are restricting them from playing video games. Huh? I'm guessing that from paragraph three you just kind of started ranting from there on out because your first two paragraphs...actually I'm going to have to say that your post was just one big rant.



The main problem with your post is that I seem to be the antagonist of video games. If that were true why would I bother even coming here? I love my PSP. I play it everyday. There are so many things to do with it from streaming videos to playing Dragon Ball Z. Now if you were able to comprehensivly read my statment, you would've noticed that I was only talking about Manhunt 2 inparticular; not all games that include violence.

Well the opinions of weather or not the game should be banned is always going to be the controversy, and you present your case well. There are only two problems I have with your argument.



1 - Why are you basing your argument around "videos" of this game, when in fact almost all videos of this game contain scenes that are not even present in the actual "Mature" rated game. I actually played this game with the mentality that it was going to have this graphic content just based on these "videos". The problem is that most of these videos are just propaganda to either:



1 - Prevent the sale of the game (Parental Groups)

2 - Increase the same of the game (By Rockstar)



I can understand that you probably wouldn't want to even give the game a try (Some of my friends don't), but if you don't actually see what the "end" product of Manhunt is (Since it was highly edited - even though Rockstar doesn't want people to know that) then your opinion is going to be skewed and you should ultimately know this.



2nd - It can never EVER be proven that this child killed his mother because of a video game. Even if this child "says" it's the game's fault, we as humans can never be absoluetely sure, because if it wasn't the game, it is possible that something else could have set this timebomb off. Kids are smart, they know that if they can blame something on someone/something to get in a "little bit less" trouble, they will do it. It reminds me growing up when friends of mine would blame other kids for their mistakes in order to get off punishment. Also you bring up the fact that the "angry German kid" got pissed because he lost in WoW. Again I don't think that WoW is the problem, I think that he just has anger issues. I honestly think that if this kid was playing "Monopoly" with his friends, and he landed on Boardwalk that had two hotels on it, he probably would have flipped out as well.



I respect your opinion and argument, and I hope you can respect mine as well. Because arguing and debating controversy is what it really means to be an American.

I'm not stating my opinion. I'm telling you that you're a retard to think that Video Game violence causes any unusual behavior in children.



To clear my "No one can stop children from playing Violent Video games so the PARENTS should stop them" statement: I was in a hurry and typed my response without much time to ponder over which grammatically correct clauses to use to convery my message. Hence it doesn't make sense. Basically what I'm saying is: "No one can stop children from playing violent video games, but that is not an ultimatum for anyone to bash video games because that is the definition of hypocrisy. If you're going to bash kids playing violent video games you'd better bas porn, movies and every other form of entertainment, otherwise you're a hypocrite."



Having said that the duty falls on the PARENTS to guide their children as much as possible since that is their duty, which American parents are failing miserably at.



To sum up my thoughts, you're still an idiot.