Anascape Ltd. Drags Nintendo and Microsoft to Court |
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Anascape Ltd. has just recently claimed that Nintendo and Microsoft have both infringed on their patents for various controller designs. The thing is, it is not just for one supposed infringement, but 12 different ones! We've come up with a list that's a little on the techy side, but that shouldn't be too much of a problem:Patent #5,999,084 "Variable Conductance Sensor"
#6,102,802 "Game Controller with Analog Pressure Sensor"
#6,135,886, "Variable Conductance Sensor with Elastomeric Dome Cap"
#6,208,271 "Remote Controller with Analog Button"
#6,222,525 "Image Controller with Sheet Connected Sensors"
#6,343, 991 "Game Control with Analog Pressure Sensor"
#6,344,791 "Variable Sensor with Tactile Feedback"
#6,347,997 "Analog Controls Housed with Electronic Displays"
#6,351,205 "Variable Conductance Sensor" (A different patent)
#6,400, 303 "Remote Controller with Analog Pressure Sensor" (A different patent)
#6,563,415 "Analog Sensor with Snap Through Tactile Feedback"
#6,906,700 "3D Controller with Vibration"
After Immersion cashed in on the case against Sony on their infringments on 8 different patents, netting over $90 Million, another lawfirm is following suit, though this time it is not against Sony. It looks like after the success of Immersion's lawsuit, others are looking to make a quick buck the same way. It seems that the video game industry has now become so competitive some companies have to go to court instead of just making something better to offer the consumer - at least that's how it's looking these days, more and more.
You can download the official document from Anascape Ltd. [here].
Via The Inquirer
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Comments
Ok Sony is getting stupid.
its about time sony sued somebody they was being sued by everybody and its fair all nintendo fan boy that said the tilt was stolen idea look now whos stealing who....
Huh? The lawsuit comes from Anascape Ltd. not from Sony.
Good job Sony, it was about time to strice back ~ I hope Nintendo and Micrsoft will get billed reallllllyyyyy high for this :) / Sony fanboy /
Fix the title idiots, Sony is not suing Microsoft and nintendo. Anascape Ltd is the one taking action against Microsoft and nintendo, not sony. Anascape Ltd had patents for presure senstive buttons and other designs that microsoft and nintendo have in their controllers. That title is only going to get the fanboys aflame.
Its Ana not Sony, unless Ana is some part of Sony? Really misleading title... Either way though I dont care..
THey Can Sure For Many Thousand Million BIll Gates has Billions.Sony *****ing copied Nintendo Motion thing and Xbox Achievements with Entitlements WTF is that
"THey Can Sure For Many Thousand Million BIll Gates has Billions.Sony *****ing copied Nintendo Motion thing and Xbox Achievements with Entitlements WTF is that" Great post! lol ...
downloaded the .pdf document, i can only find Anascape, no SONY in there. wth? or wtf
sony aint suing no one... also if you say sony copied anyone, ask nintendo..they copied from atari back in the day....nintendophile!!!
There's only one problem with a lot of these lawsuits. Nintendo said all the Wiimote buttons were digital not analog. Not to mention Nintendo owns patents for this stuff way before Anascape did...
they just need money for their gay consol.. if they are at all suing ayone
For all you jackasses That are saying sony is not suing. If you know how to *****ing read, Anascape is Suing Microsoft and Nintendo on behalf of Patents made BY sony. So in the end Sony still gets a cut. So Stop whining like a bunch of pricks.
damn dude sony is kinda going outta control (and this is hard to say cause im a huge fanboy)
That is just bull*****. Sony is going bankrupted from all the illegal activites they engaged in, and now they just need some cash so they dont have to sell out :D HAHAHA sony are a bunch of asslickers. They are also putting themself in the hole with their ps3 beacuse it COSTS so *****ing much to develop.
Finally people will realise that SONY was the first to patent a controller that senses motion, NOT NINTENDO. I'm not being a fanboy or anything, its just no one ever beleibves me. Maybe people will now. Theres a link somewhere over on the PS UK forums
The ***** are you talking about?
"For all you jackasses That are saying sony is not suing. If you know how to *****ing read, Anascape is Suing Microsoft and Nintendo on behalf of Patents made BY sony. So in the end Sony still gets a cut. So Stop whining like a bunch of pricks. " Dude I agree but they dont read the article they just saw "Sony Sues Microsoft and Nintendo" and went with it... Sad the site used this as their title.
so anasoft is just doing this b/c they think that sony will love them?
"That is just bull*****. Sony is going bankrupted from all the illegal activites they engaged in, and now they just need some cash so they dont have to sell out :D HAHAHA sony are a bunch of asslickers. They are also putting themself in the hole with their ps3 beacuse it COSTS so *****ing much to develop." LOL First of all learn how to *****ing write. They don't have to sell out? They are going bankrupted? That's not even a word you tard. If you read any news articles you'd know that Sony's profits are up this year regardless of costs for anything. So shut up you stupid Xbox Fanboy flamer.
What do you mean they don't have to sell out?
is sony on crack they sueing nintendo and mircosoft cause they copied their controller designs wtf, mircosoft should be sueing sony cause they copying their acheviments thing and calling it entitlements
You are a moron. Who Hired your stupid ass?
Wow, this is pretty amusing.... I like Sony, alwaysed have...I own a 360 tho, and love it...so this is interesting to see. I could care less about the outcome of this event...this will be pretty fun to watch how it unfolds tho
omfg who ever is sueing... get a freaking life what a bunch of noobs make money from sales not law suits
Sphaloman, You're a *****ING IDIOT!
like they dont got anything better to do scam
Heh, i'd like to see Sega step up and sue somebody for ripping off something as well.... im almost POSITIVE theres gotta be something.... although.... the original creators of Pong... they could sue EVERYBODY cuz theyre all ripping off videogames
this is self destructive for the game industry. every company has brought somthing to the table. if they start calling in their patents we will have radically different systems....THAT DONT FUNCTION AT ALL
Yes HmmqH he's an idiot, but next time try explaining why at least, you are an idiot because you just said he was an idiot, but didnt say anything that would prove him an idiot and just making an idiot out of yourself. Well, its buisness, if they are competitive companies (And we all know how competitive they are.) They are bound to go on lawsuits for anything, soon well see that nintendo will get sued by sony because they started using two analog sticks on the GC controller, even if the first analong stick was on a nintendo console (as far as i know of course) , then nintendo will have to sue microsoft for another minor thing, then microsoft will sue sony for entitlements and on and on, its just predictable buisness, sometimes war seems less elaborate.
You cant blame Sony for doing this... This is a competitive market, people are going to do whatevr they can to make thier system #1. Immerson started it with Sony, so in turn they have to make that money up somehow...I don't think these patents are pure speculation...so why not go after a competitor. Like i said, I could care less what happens, I have somethings from all 3 companys, I enjoy all 3 companies differently...
If you think that this Anascape company weren't coerced into taking action by Sony then in my opinion its clear you should think again. Also, for this patent: #6,135,886, "Variable Conductance Sensor with Elastomeric Dome Cap Thats basically a mini analogue stick, present in the Xbox, PS2 and Cube, but also present in the N64 (Nintendo initially pioneered the mini analogue stick and were the first to have an analogue stick as standard on a controller) but Sega brought one out for the Saturn before that with nights into dreams. so I cant see where sony are coming from with the analogue stick thing. they only brought out their analogue pad cos nintendo & sega both had analogue sticks in their pads, and nintendo had brought out the rumble pak. so im not sure theres much (if any) opportunity for them to patent something they probably made in retaliation. @ Sparksalot Im not sure about who patented what first, but your story sounded almost plausible until I reached this line: "Theres a link somewhere over on the PS UK forums" Oh right yeah, over there on the 100% neutral playstation forum. Nothing can ever be impartial from a playstation website, same as any other forum which holds people who are brand loyal. Im not sure i wouldnt take anything pro-sony from there with a pinch of salt.
I can't wait to see what happens.
It isn't Sony doing the sueing... Anascape Ltd is... or atleast thats what I gather from it. To number 32, those are patents man, there's obviously a difference in technology other wise Sony couldn't patent it. ALSO! Have you ever seen the making of the analogue stick on a n64 controller??? IT is some wacky 2 teir, piviting system that doesn't resemble the normal analogue stick that's in PS2/xbox/gc controllers at all! Don't believe me? Take one apart and see for yourself.
Nintendo invented the analog stick and Nintendo sued sony for copying them way back. One thing i dont get is if sony wasent supost to be able to have a analog stick on there controller in the first place so how the hell can sony make patents for the analog stick when there already breaking copy right law by even having a analog stick you cant sue some one for copying ideas about somthing if you were making the ideas for it wile you were never supost to have the thing your making ideas for in the the first place.
"For all you jackasses That are saying sony is not suing. If you know how to *****ing read, Anascape is Suing Microsoft and Nintendo on behalf of Patents made BY sony. So in the end Sony still gets a cut. So Stop whining like a bunch of pricks. " And pluse sony patent the motion senseing controller why before nintendo!!!!! so who copied who!!!
when its sony getting sued, everyone says haha eat that $ony. but when its MS and nintendo getting sued everyones like, stupid $ony sueing everyone ruining everything for everyone.
sony is just fun to hate
didn't the ps1 come out in japan back in 1994, and what nintendo console used analog besides the 64? bill gates sux my dic k!
Sony aint going bankrupt, they r more then a games company, the are a major eletronics company, and spider man 3 will make them lots of money, for the whole company
nocomment
reading all this *****. some ppl on here are ignorant fools starting with the writer that made up the damn title its anascape thats sueing not sony, reading all the nintendo fanboys comment made me crack up, look how defensive they got. go to gamespot for the story, i even think they sued sony too (i think). RLMAO at "Analscape"
http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=33466 Sony has nothing to do with it. Do your own research before you start idiotic arguments.
Hey he forgot you fogot this one! #6,103, 991 "Making a Video Game System that plays ....GAMES!" Thats so freakin retarted!
Too bad all Sony Fanboys are too retarded to understand all the above. Sony is almost guaranteed not to win these lawsuits, the only reason they're sueing is to make up for the console that WILL fail in every way, the PS3. Sony likes to cheat people out of their money *coughfirmwareupdatescough*
There is no way to prove who copied whom as every company manufactures their products differently. As for the motion sencing controller, Microsoft patented it first for the PC, one that worked exactly like PS3s is going to.
This is going to be a hard one for anascape to win. These patents take place after the N64 was release, but some of the things their suing for was in the N64. And what happens if Nintendo owns the patent in Japan before the US patent? Doesn't the US courts take into account other countries laws when suing a company from another country. Just some thoughts.
lol so funny ppls like to hate on the top dogs like sony, but if gay MS is sued, OMFG everything is going to hell!!!LMFAO!!!!plus nintendo didnt invent the analong stick..didnt atari have the first stick on a pad?so nintendo copied from atari in the past. RIP 2 pac...i wish you were here to kick xbots ass all day for being ps3 haters!!!and ignorant little children that like to suck big coc k like a whales coc k!!!
Sony may be more than a gaming company, but with falling sales of TV's, Video Camera's, Digital Camera's and Laptops, the only thing keeping Sony above water is the Playstation 2 console. So in order not to go bankrupt, they need to insure that they don't lose with the new-gen system.
omfg how dumb are they the xbox 360 controller is based on the sega controller which was before sony so shut the ***** up
Falling sales ? You're 2 years late
Sony is Gay, and fan boys are *****in' dumb ***** *****a ass *****es and should go to damn hell. Bastards.
You guys are retarded, SONY HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS this is Anascape Ltd. you ****in retard fanboys...
Damn all you f****** fanboys of Sony you are so stupid that i start to cry blood. I didn't know HOW stupid you where but now when i know i have to say im scared that god or how ever made you peoples could make so stupid/retarded humans, i bet he had a bad day so the outcome was all Sony fanboys. Im sorry for your parants that have to be near you (all the time).
I'm too tired to read the other 54 or so comments, but if this is in fact Anascape trying to sue Nintendo or Microsoft for infringing on SONY'S copyrights... That's illegal, they have no connection to the alleged crime. Further, several of these copyrights appear to be somewhat redundant... I think someone's just greedy.
Reading the article on Gamestop, looks like I misunderstood. I guess it's Anascape themselves who held the patents.
Wtf, this is a ridiculous lawsuit, it's like "You made money!"*grab*. If this is what the gaming industry is coming to it'll be no better than the music industry soon.
It doesn't matter who made the analog first. A patent is a patent, and as long as you have one on something, you have the right to call someone else out for violating it.
I been a big surporter of Sony and plan to get a PS3 as well as my 360, but if this lawsuit ends up with Microsoft having to change the brillent 360 controller then I will never buy anything from Sony again.
*****ING HELL SONY IS NOT SUING ANYONE! DO ANY OF YOU DUMB *****ING RETARDS READ THE ARTICLE!? (not including the people who actually post proper comments)
Don't you just adore companies that put patent on things that will eventually come on the market, without them being capable of inventing it themselves, just so that they can sue companies for millions the moment something that can be considered the same as your patent is braught to the market. It's some sort of gun to the head of anyone who wants to make actual progress in technology. "Hah! You can't make that without paying us millions and millions cause we got patent!" I really love all these people going "Hah! suits you right for stealing from sony!" while Sony has nothing to do with this whole article. Oh well.
With those lawsuits, Nintendo and Microsoft are DOOM 3! It's a great game.
What exactly does Anascape produce anyway? Other than lawsuits, I mean.
That is just funny. Sony WILL NOT win any money. ARCADE GAMES have a joystick. Joysticks have...well a joystick. Hey, if you want to get down to the facts, creators of atari or whatever should sue sony, nintendo, microsoft, and everyone else who has a joystick.
You guys are stupid, read the article, Sony is not the one suing anyone, is some stupid thing called Anascape Ltd. gues that just shows that Nintendo and Microsoft fanboys CANT READ.
that is so great, now i hope they get the worst. maybe won't come out at alll the right way hahahhaha. that is what you get for treating sony bad. you never stick to the rules of patents to use. check out my wireless tv remote duhh idiots oh technology. i love ps2 guncon then the zapper. guncon best for time crisis.
If nobody patented the "joystick/analog" idea except Sony, then nobody else can sue for the "joystick/analog" except for Sony. That's assuming Sony 'is' the first to have patented it.
...and I don't mean just Sony. I'm talking about any company that patented someting first. Sony is just an example.
All of these sueing other companies is getting out of control. Sure, some sueing has to be done but in this case its stupid. If Sony is some part of Anascape, one example (correct me if I'm wrong) of a stupid "violation" is the N64 had a rumble pak before the PS1 "dual shock", i.e. making the [#6,906,700 "3D Controller with Vibration"] patent violation worthless. I'm sure there are other wierd patent violations in that list as well. Looks like all 3 companies will be at everybodys' necks for a long time (well, maybe just Sony vs. Nintendo and Microsoft - haven't seen any quarls between N and MS).
i really feel sorry for ps3 / wii / xbox 360 cause they cant invent for S#it wat ever they come up with some one out there has patent for it .... makin it really hard to come up with concepts that are innovatice and original ... all hail sony for takin out the vibration module from the ps3 controller, otherwise right along with nintedog and MS.
nintendo introuduced the d-pad so does that mean sony should be sued? look at the old game and watch games from 20 years ago... oh and look sony's controller is a knockoff of the super nes pad... microsoft uses the dreamcast/saturn analog controller... gamecube's controller was a analog/dpad swap of the ps2 dual shock... the wii virtual console controller looks exactly like a sony dual shock... i mean so really you had the joysticks from the pre-nes days,the d-pad from nes on and the analog from n64 on. along with vibration from nintendo... gameboy color had motion sensors 10 years ago... kirby's tilt and tumble.
Why are there still tards who think it's Sony sueing MS and Nintendo? Read the title jackasses
If you're referring to my post, then read it. I used Sony as a simple example; so that'd make you a tard. Otherwise, carry on and ignore this.
Sony can go die. They were cool and all with PS2, but with PS3 they have changed so god damn much. I hate them now. They've given up all effort to make a great console, which they have the potentual to do, but they're just too lazy this time around. At first, I saw they copied a couple things and I was ok with it. But now, they just keep copying more and more things. Totally unorigional. I hate it. They need to go die. /endrant
No, was mostly referring to the one above yours. And anybody else who said "yay sony" AFTER they changed the title to say Anatech Ltd. And wtf is up with the post above? What did that have to do with the topic?
they suck! SONY is the one who's stealing ideas ffs! PERISH IN FLAMES!
HAHAHHa omfg, LOSERS !!!!!
Everyone's suing the ass of everyone... Greedy bas-*shot*
most of u think ps3 sucks cause u set ur standerd at the 360
The truth is, it's probably too late to sue for all those things anyway. I mean if your patent is infringed upon prominantly by several different companies several diffent times over several years, you lose a lot of leverage in your case. For example, in a copyright case Barnum and Baily circus sued the State of Utah for infringing on their slogan, "The Greatest Show on Earth". For years Utah had been using "The Greatest Snow on Earth" as a slogan and stamping it on all their license plates and other official and promotional materials. When Barnum finally tried to sue, they lost the case. Even though the copyright was still valid, they had gone so long without taking any action that "The Greatest Snow on Earth" had become integrated as an important intellectual property of the State of Utah. While copyright and patent laws aren't exactly the same, they share most of the same legal principals. There are other cases like this that have to do with real estate law as well--in most states, if you live on and develop a piece of land for seven years, it's yours (you may have to pay back taxes on it, though). The legal principal is, you can't sit on a patent and wait until everyone in the world has infringed it, and then sue everyone in the world. After a while people have to assume you're not suing because you don't care. The Immersion case began a long time ago, so it was easily within the "window". It didn't help $ony's case that M$ settled either. Anyways, long post. . . the point is, this case is a scam. $ony has to be involved on some level if they are not being sued as well. It will cost all parties a lot of money no matter what happens. And nobody wins if everybody loses.
I hate companies like this that are not improving the industry and sueing for some easy money. I feel Sony went to a motion control to fill the hole when Immersion ripped out the force feedback on the dual shock with there frivolous law suit. Now Microsoft and Nintendo are being targeted. I need to patent a rotary analog control that allows easier manipulation of automotive vehicles and sue all the auto makers for infringement. Its just crazy I can see a lawsuit if its a direct duplication of the parts but they are getting plain silly here.
***** sony cheap bastards
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