Sony: It's still too early in the PSP's life cycle to add a second analog nub |
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The "second analog nub" mantra has since become sort of a call to arms for a vocal portion of PSP users. When Sony revealed that the new PSP Go would still have only one analog nub, these dissatisfied users ranted and raved about what they considered a "stupid" decision.
There's a reason for every decision, though, no matter how stupid they may end up being sometimes. As for the lack of a second analog nub on the PSP Go, Shuhei Yoshida, President of Sony Worldwide Studios, says that they did consider adding it, but it was just too early in the PSP's life cycle to implement it now. Here's what he told GameInformer:
We also felt - like many users - that we wish we had a second analog on the PSP. But we are talking about the mid-life cycle of this platform, and the PSPgo is designed to be perfectly compatible with the PSP-3000 and all the games that released before that. So we had a very serious discussion about this particular subject, but we decided not to add a second analog, and some of the developers are doing quite a nice job translating the second analog functionality to different buttons. We didnÂ’t want to divert their efforts either.
It actually makes sense to me. They did accede a bit and added support for the Sixaxis and DualShock 3 controllers, which is a welcome feature. Of course, I still expect a second analog stick on the PSP2 or whatever name they ultimately choose to call it, but that's neither here or now. Any thoughts, guys?
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- Another look at the PSP Go - controller connectivity, in-game XMB
- Sony: UMD-less PSP has always been the plan
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no its too late
honestly playstation's worst decision to date
the psp-go fair enough the didnt wont to rip people of even more, by making new games incompatible with the old systems
not the other way around like that idiot said
however its never to late to right a wrong
better than waiting years for something which was so obvious in the beginning that would lead to alot of criticism
I don't even know where people got the impression that the PSP-Go was ever supposed to be the PSP2 with omgwtfbbq type improvements. The sense of entitlement these people have is just sick.
first off the 'PSP Go" (2) is UGLY and cheap looking!
this statement just makes sony look stupid...
"Sony: It's still too early in the PSP's life cycle to add a second analog nub"
so my right thumb is getting bored and stuff i have to wait how many years to get a simple analog stick? oh wait sony has to put two buttons there. i forgot those take up SO MUCH ROOM.
Any game that requires a second analog nub doesn't deserve to be on the PSP platform.
Let's leave the FPS genre (for example) on the PC where it belongs.
As long as its still meant to play first gen PSP games it should NEVER have another analog nub.
Actually WHO THE F**** TOLD THEM TO MAKE A PSP GO!,PSP 3000 OR SLIM ?
they could've just use their brains and concentrated on the next PSP. They just wanted to make new hardware(costin g more money=more loss). seriously what was wrong with the phat psp.
all these versions in the end are all the same thing in gaming and have the same (almost) hardware and titles.
Have you thoght they might have made a new model to try and stop Homebrew
Have the new PSP compatible with DualShock3 with bluetooth connection. Gives you the option to use a control if you want to. Or just take the thing out on its own.
Cause what you said was incredibly stupid
dualshock3 controller didn't fit in my pocket, the last time i checked.
PSP-1000 should of had 2 analogs, so that discussion never happened. It isn't too early for the PSP's life cycle, it was just too LATE.
I agree with what Shuhei Yoshida, President of Sony Worldwide Studios, commented. It is technically too early for another version of PSP with the second analog nub since it's what they follow the life cycle of console. We all know it's SOP for them. saldude2 got a point too. Why would they release another revamp edition of PSP and we know that it has some additional features like bluetooth, slimmer and smaller, no-umd but with 16gb internal memory, etc. I'm guessing that Sony is trying to compete the Go in the field of digital downloading like itunes, steam, xbla, psn etc. especially exclusive only for the PSP contents digital media downloadable goodies - which include games, movies, music, etc. and the rumors about about sony engaging on applications (like the homebrew apps). Well, I guess this is a dry run test for them and trying to milk the cow if it squirts more.
Again, it's better to just wait and see this PSP Go 'til it's release date and from there on hopefully we get some reviews and lower price since it's TOO DAMN EXPENSIVE. Maybe they will be enlighten one way or another about this issue.
As for the second analog nub again, Sony sure finds a way to somehow implement it in a psp but in a TEDIOUS manner since first, you need to have a PS3 and second it beats the portability of a psp. I guess this is good if you're on a marathon or long hours of gaming goodness and playing like there's no tomorrow.
There are hardly any games that even need a second analog yet people feel the need to ***** about the system not having one. Sure it'd be nice to have one then some games would be a little better, but most every game works fine without it.
Honestly though. How many shooters are on the system? Action, adventure, and RPGs hardly even need to have the second analog. Gurumin, God of War, GTA series, etc. All play perfectly fine on the PSP without a second analog but you would have slightly better control with the analog to position the camera if you felt the need to.
Certain developers do well without the second analog even when the game should require it. Games like the Syphon Filter series for example, using the face buttons as an alternative and then the digital buttons are four additional buttons.
Then there are the new models. Some people are too stupid to realize that these are hardware revisions to, A, stop homebrew/custom firmware users, and B, because the newer revisions always end up costing the company less than the previous revisions. The PSP Go has no UMD drive and even though it has additional features, it makes the system itself less than the other PSP systems. The Slim systems were released because they were also cheaper than the Phat.
Try too effen late. No right stick .... me no buy.
Try missed the boat a third time.
Try lost the race cause you didn't try.
Why is the PS2 still taking a bite out of the PS3 sales?
Why does the PS3 not support PS2 games?
Why does the PSP not have a right stick?
Why would anyone buy the PSP go?
Too early, you need to look for a job where you can be productive instead of the obsticle you are.
Don't develop any games that require a second stick because the PSP doesn't have one. Ok that explains why there are hardly any games that need a second analog. Honestly..... Think about it no stick no games.
fps games are the types that i enjoyed most (other that monster hunter) when played together with bunch of friends.
i'm not a fan of fps on console either, mind you. fps still best played in a pc. but you cant possibly brings your pc everywhere you go now can you? so when we were hanging out psp is the best choice we have.
Good thing too. I don't want *****ty FPS games filling up my PSP. I already have Unreal Tournament 3, that's enough.
I think God of War needed a second analog nub, since its for dodging. Right now you need to push three button to do it (L+R+direction) . pushing three button at once is not a good game design for a simple action.
In syphon filter series, the face button is not as responsive as an analog nub, period. if we have a second analog nub, the face button can be use for other command like changing weapons, binocular etc alot faster and easier. right now we have to push direction button plus+face button (correct me if im wrong in this one but you get my point).
Can you guys stop ranting for a second and use your brains. First of all, he never said it was too early in the life cycle, Karl B. did in an effort to compress what he said into a short phrase. What he said is that they don't want to add a second analog stick in the "mid-life cycle of this platform". Which makes sense if you think about it.
If Sony has a number of years in mind for the life cycle of the PSP, introducing a second analog stick before that will kill the life cycle. If they added the second stick to the PSP Go, any new games that came out that used it wouldn't work on the PSP-3000 and down. So they would effectively kill the previous PSP's and you would be forced to buy the new GO in order to play the game. They are not going to do that until they are ready to move on to the PSP2.
The PSP Go are for all the people out there that complained all the time that they hated the UMDs and they wish they could just get a PSP with a HDD. Now that Sony has given them one, they have to find something else to complain about. It seems like you people are never happy unless you are complaining about something.
read the article again. then think before posting. read it twice if you have to then then think some more.
if you look at the playstation brand for a sec, you'll notice a trend of hardware revamps since the psone series. now, if you look at gaming scene as of recent, you'll notice the same thing is happening with every console. it's a no brainer that sony fully intended to create various versions of the psp. and only makes sense that they milk the psp for as much as they can because i dont know if you guys noticed, but they are a business and that's what businesses do. very simple.
and honestly, have you ever held you psp as if there were 2 analog nubs? it feels mad uncomfortable. maybe if the analogs were sticks like the dualshock, but, really, who wants to sticks sticking out of there psp; try putting that in your pocket.
hmm.. maybe sony wont be saying this when microsoft release their own portable xbox with 2 analog sticks?.. they dont want to make the old psp games incompatible with the new psp if ever it has a 2nd nub?.. so stupid.. i think this is possible: add a 2nd nub that works only for the newer games that can support it & as for the old psp games, just dont do anything about it, as long as theyre still playable on the newer psp that has a 2nd nub who cares if those games wont support it..
so youre saying that they should just forget about everyone else who already has a psp? there's certain word for your kind, STUPID!
well that's dumb. Have you ever heard, "if you can make it, you can break it"
having a new system might make it easier for hackers since the hardware is different and may be overflowing with bugs and glitches.
Sony is a bit crazy. Having to release a 4th version of their psp. No other system has done that except the gameboy, and each of those times have been a major upgrade in the software.
Sony should just have focused their technology and time on a psp2 and have released it in a couple years.
When corporations look at stuff like this, they think about the majority.
You can't make everybody happy, so why not make most of them happy?
Imagine if they did release one though....
Everybody would be mad because they'd have to make ALL new games for them, which you'd have to pay for.
I see your point, but Sony's makes much more sense.
now i dont care, I WANT IT.
i see where everyone is coming from when they give pros and cons about the device, its all undestandable.
Regardless on what happens, whats gunna happen, or the rumors, for me the psp has always delivered. Even if it seems to be taking a long time for more excitement.
For the psp go i love mostly because they made what i love more compact.
My biggest complaint, and since i want it, my only complaint is how would i play my previously bought games, without having to buy them again.
The psp has always delivered, we complain because we care.
Does any one remember the jump Sony made from it's original PS1 controllers to the Dual Shock? it had analog sticks but they weren't compatible with any of the old games.. the new games there after had analog Stick support (one stick at first and then eventually both were enabled) I think the same could be used for a PSP with Dual Nubs.. just make it compatible to the library of games that are already out.. but then make it so that new games can take complete benefit of the dual nubs. it's mos DEF cheaper then getting that UMD drive...
The Psp 1,2,3000 and Psp go are all the same console so you can't start adding controls when it means older Psp's can't play certain games, Sony isn't going to flat out say they won't add a second analog so they'll just keep peddling this elude about it being too early, it would be good to have a second analog but it would also be good if my car had 8 wheels and a jet engine.. We all have to accept the fact it isn't going to happen.
I don't understand why I'm the only one who thinks daylight visibility is a real problem for the PSP. I want to be able to use it outside, and I don't think that's too much to ask for a portable device. There are plenty of devices with screens that are capable of being seen in daylight, including cell phones made by Sony. There is no excuse for it to have such miserable daylight visibility. If they fix this problem, I will definitely get a PSPgo.
what they are trying to say is that they are saving the second analog stick for the next psp if not they wont make money. Sony's been slacking in the gaming department for a while now.
out of all the things "wrong" with the psp, this is actually something worth crying about.
Nintendo and PSP game developers did.
Boost sales or lose support
I don't care either way about analog nubs, but the screen, in general, is the one major disappointment of the system. I can't stand to play an FPS or any other fast-moving action game because it blurs so badly. (PSP-1000, shipped with FW 1.50)
I understand LCD's are expensive, but we got ripped off. IMHO, the first-gen Japanese PSP has a higher quality screen than any other model.
agreed.
Yea, there isn't a second analog stick but damn, use it for playing your PlayStation games, emulators, the few good games and upcoming games that don't require it like Assassins Creed, Rock Band (I didn't like this game too much), MotorStorm, Gran Turismo, Little Big Planet, Virtua Tennis, Lumines, etc. I don't play FPS on my PSP. Well, I lied. I did play Resistance Retribution but honestly, I had more fun playing NES Emulators.
For everyone that doesn't like sony's decision, follow these steps:
Go on http://www.ebay.com
Search PSP 1000
Choose one and buy it.
imo, the best model to date. Every single one is hackable, unlike the PSP 2000 where you take a chance with the TA-whatever the ***** it is motherboard thats unhackable.
How many other portable systems have lasted long enough to put 4 versions? All others tanked...god bless the game gear.
solution:get bigger pockets!
...why everyone who wanted the GO! ....(which is obviously not a PS2 portable...just look at the meek collection of LEGAL PSX games you can download, how would that give you any hope of seeing PS2-game compatible PSP (which would also somehow mean that SONY is begging you to hack their GO! with cfw *They don't care about security like on the 1000-3000s... in fact, the GO will launch with custom firmware just so you can steal PS2 isos now and still not give them a dime* = fairytale.)
...could f.u.c.k. themselves.
But there was one problem that stopped me and set me even further away from the stupidity of the GO!
SONY in addition to an ugly design, moved the START/SELECT to an analog stick-like island as a big f.u.c.k. you to the (misguided but hopeful) consumers.
I know SONY has done some stupid sh.it with the PSP...
*SONY give up on the Harry Potter movie UMDs not even magic can sell those*
...but even though I get the appeal of the GO! provided that: It is not a gift for someone else (specifically a little kid), you own a credit card, you have a good enough job to pay for the things you wanna fill your 16gb, you are a tech freak that has to have the latest new toys,you hate UMDs/ love long download times, have no want for CFW, the smaller size doesn't bother you because your ***** is small too but your car is shiny and fast.
But stop getting mad about things that this system isn't people. You're starting to remind me of the noobs on PSPISO my brother insists demand unreleased games everyday.
Someone who agrees that RockBand Unplugged was a waste of development? I wanted to enjoy it but the customization was lame and the song collection was bad too. They had an opportunity to use the players own music but didn't. they completely eliminated any kind of difficulty by getting rid of the strum (analog stick was MADE FOR THIS) also the instrument switching was a horrible idea. and what is the point of the PSP3000 having a microphone I have NEVER used in game (I wanted something like maybe the sound of my own voice to distract from the fact that my frontwoman was singing all male fronted bands). And the only PARAMORE in the game had to be downloaded for EXTRA money! WHAT?
I bought a 3000 on a whim after owning a cfw1000 and buying an unhackable 2000 (pre-chickHEN, now both the 2000 and 3000 are CFE) I never really see a difference in glare resistance on my 3000 outside. But i do love the 3000 brightness with the wide color option, plus add 5th brightness from hold+.prx. Even though in the daylight i can't play games the 3000 was a needed update to the PSP because now whenever I look at a phat or slim the poor color array and lack of vivacity make my eyes hurt.
Then there are the new models. Some people are too stupid to realize that these are hardware revisions to, A, stop homebrew/custom firmware users, and B, because the newer revisions always end up costing the company less than the previous revisions. The PSP Go has no UMD drive and even though it has additional features, it makes the system itself less than the other PSP systems. The Slim systems were released because they were also cheaper than the Phat.
A. so then there is no piracy in psp slim(except for the special motherboard),ps p 3000
B is that the reason why slim is still costlier than phat ? (cost goes down in respect to time)
C have you checked the price they gave for go. its more expensive than phat (without memory sticks)
exactly what im also thinking about.. having the 2nd nub is possible if sony would just go for it.. but they wont for the psp go coz theyre still keep on making newer psp versions till they hit a spot where no one cares anymore then that'll be the time theyre gonna make the 2nd nub.. -- just business..
i totally agree with you.. paramore not included on the game but as a DLC.. i was disappointed too.. instrument switching sucks, why are you a one-man band on this game?.. this is supposed to be a multiplayer game with at least the adhoc connections.. and then the mic or singing is made as pressing buttons?.. that is dumb.. they should have made it the same as whats on the consoles, sing with the mic on the psp.. or better yet, the bluetooth headset of the ps3 connected to the psp go (which will boost the ps3 headset sales a bit)..
i dont see why all you are whining about the psps now or in the future anyways , all any of you can do is use homebrew anyways bacause you have no skills to play the games as they are...i hope they do make the new psp so that they can stop you whining little b!tches from running hacks.... p.s. just because you run SOMEONE ELSES software doesnt mean YOU are a "hackers" dont flatter yourselfs
complaining about this second anolog stick. i understand what this sony guy is saying but... i really feel like the second anolog stick would add some real flavor and a real next gen feel to the psp.
i think it would enhance the experience. because no where else are you playing with an analog stick and some buttons. i remember when that game coded arms came out, all my friends and i screamed for a second analog stick. and i hear that they do a better job with fps now but..why not just give me a second analog stick and let me use the right trigger to shoot. then i could play with the psp go screen down and have tons of fun...im sure that would boost sales...c'mon sony...c'mon
also this whole life cycle thing is b.s because the last psp i bought was the original and ill be damned if i by another one just cause of an analog stick...especially if i know the system is at the "end of its life cycle". you cant add the second stick and have developers use it as an option..this reasons given feel like b.s.
1) PS3 DOES support PS2 games, learn facts before you *****(and don't you dare tell me I'm wrong because I do it all the time, it even supports PS1 -_-)
2) second analog + break compatibilty with 1k, 2k, 3k PSP's
THERE WON'T BE A SECOND ANALOG UNTIL THE psp2 GOT IT? QUIT *****ING ABOUT THAT
it is to late, it was either on the fat, or on the PSP2 you can't add something like that on a revision model... god damn noob...
WTF is wrong with you and frolix probably brain damaged FPS are meant for Xbox and PlayStation 3 and psp. playing on a keyboard are you *****ing stupid. you guys are the stupidest people ever. srry for so much aggression but stupid comments like these infuriate em
so let's say they add a 2nd analog stick. Anyone care to explain how in the hell it affects previous games?
Answer: It doesn't, so why the hell don't they already make a psp with a 2nd analog stick?
WOW. When I say support PS2 games, I should have said all PS3 need to be able to play all PS2 games, not just be able to put the DVD into the slot. For your information not ALL PS3 support playing PS2 DVDs that is the FACT.
"which is obviously not a PS2 portable"
no it's a psp
"look at the meek collection of LEGAL PSX games you can download, how would that give you any hope of seeing PS2-game compatible PSPwhich would also somehow mean that SONY is begging you to hack their GO! with cfw *They don't care about security like on the 1000-3000s... in fact, the GO will launch with custom firmware just so you can steal PS2 isos now and still not give them a dime"
there is a lot of reasons why there aren't many psx games. if you knew anything about licensing, and weren't stupid, then you'd understand why they cant just port over all the psx games ever made. if they ever make a psp that can play ps2 games, it will be the same thing. psx games are coming and the recent influx just proves that.
and what is that nonsense youre spewing at the end there? the go will launch with custom firmware and stealing isos+fairytale...? huh?
"SONY in addition to an ugly design, moved the START/SELECT to an analog stick-like island as a big f.u.c.k. you to the (misguided but hopeful) consumers."
yeah cause R+D sat in a room and said "let's make a psp that no one will want! yeah, in fact let's make something that will insult our customers! LET'S NOT MAKE MONEY!!!!! YEAH!!!" if you took maybe a second to read the article, you'll notice why exactly why they chose not to add the second nub.
"*SONY give up on the Harry Potter movie UMDs not even magic can sell those*"
harry potter sucks and so do you
"...but even though I get the appeal of the GO! provided that: It is not a gift for someone else (specifically a little kid), you own a credit card, you have a good enough job to pay for the things you wanna fill your 16gb, you are a tech freak that has to have the latest new toys,you hate UMDs/ love long download times, have no want for CFW, the smaller size doesn't bother you because your ***** is small too but your car is shiny and fast."
-PSN CARDS!
-16gb is awesome
-some people just like tinkering with new technology. same kind of person who hacked the OG psp
-would you carry all your psp UMDs around?
-long downloads...ugh..this coming from the same guy who want's a psp that can play ps2 games..kill yourself
-some dont care about cfw
-smaller is better in some cases; the psp is actually big piece of hardware to lug around when compared to other handhelds. the fact that is 50% smaller is godsend to people who want to put their psp in there pocket and not look like they're carrying a brick.
"But stop getting mad about things that this system isn't people"
really? take your own advice, loser
really? no way! youre so smart for pointing that out, too bad you fail
the point is, it will affect everyone else who doesnt have a psp with 2 analogs.
so now ask:how will it affect those with previous psps?
answer: because when a new game that comes out that utilizes a 2nd nub, those with the older psps wont be able to play it.
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if they implemented the 2nd analog, there would be games that would not be playable on the old psps. that's the whole point of the damn article. pls read.
ape escape on the ps1 is a prime example of this. anyone without a dual shock could not play the game. so imagine they did implement the 2nd nub and they came out with a new god of war or a game where you had to have a 2nd analog stick to play, how pissed would you be that they forced you to buy a new psp to play that game??
FPS games do suck on consoles. Controllers are way slower then a keyboard and mouse. FPS games are to be played on a PC not some lame console!!!