Koller: No go for piracy on PSP Go

Posted Sep 1, 2009 at 7:13AM by Karl B. Listed in: Interviews, News, PSP Go Tags: firmware updates, John Koller, piracy, Sony
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In case it wasn't painfully obvious, the new PSP Go is Sony's next move in their ongoing battle against piracy on their gaming handheld. From firmware updates to the non-removable battery, it seems Sony has really done the research.

Speaking to PlayStation Insider, Sony's John Koller conceded that earlier PSP models -- from the 1000 to the supposedly unhackable (we all know how that turned out) 3000 -- weren't piracy-proof, but the Go will be a different beast altogether.

"You won't be able to rip your games and play them on the system, the firmware precludes that," he said. "There's no external [PSP Go] battery, so there's a number of protections put into place on the system."

Curbing piracy on the handheld is all well and good (and should result in more games), but the non-removable battery could still act as a deterrent for some. If that thing wears down, users who bring their handhelds wherever they go have no choice but to send their devices to Sony and get it replaced, unlike the current status quo where all you have to do is pop on down to the store and buy a new one.



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Comments [refresh]

by Acteon - 2009-09-01 03:21
» *Sigh*

I'd still like to know what, if anything, Sony are doing for those of us with big game collections who might like to move to the Go!. I'm starting to think that the 4000 model will be aimed at the UMD faithful, and the Go! will require a repurchase.



I'm not sure if Sony don't care or just make these things up on the fly, but being a Sony customer sure feels like being adrift sometimes.

by GLO13AL_T3RROR - 2009-09-01 03:32
» blah blah blah

Well i am not really a fan of psp game but all i want is to be able to play homebrew games. And yea the only reason i hacked my other psp is definitely because of homebrew applications!

by papajag - 2009-09-01 03:33
» **** the Go...

There's barely any games for the PSP worth buying. I only use my PSP now for PS1 and Classic games. Unless they sell the Go for $99 it's not even worth looking at.

by buttheadrulesagain - 2009-09-01 03:38
» ...

I don't know why people keep saying "psp games suck, I'm all for the homebrew". The PSP has great games, it is a great console for its own right. If I had to choose between homebrew and those new games coming up, I would choose the new games.



I love being able to have retrogaming, and to play past titles I never had the chance to try, and unless I have no choice, I'll still enjoy emulators.



For Acteon, Sony is not forcing you to buy the PSP Go. The 3000 is still in production.

by ov3rkill - 2009-09-01 03:45
» lol.

since the go is following the iphone trend on the battery. i bet it'll be jailbroken soon in no time. just like the iphone also. xD...



as for going legit, there are games worth buying and paying for. hopefully they're much cheaper on the PSN since there's no physical media involved. :)



would love to see more on infrastructure multiplayer games on psp though.

by silvard - 2009-09-01 03:51
» can psp go be sold?

In the EU according to this (Article 11 - http://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ/LexUriServ.do?uri=CELEX:32006L0066:EN:NOT ) battery should be easily removable for the end-user, isn't it?

by prime - 2009-09-01 04:08
» hmm

And sorta like how the PS3 was broken + pirated? Oh wait...

by hikamikazesama - 2009-09-01 04:09
» w/e

IMO I don't think this is going to matter sooner or later it will be hacked. As for me I am planing on getting 4000 and buying psp go 2/slim as knowing sony it should roll out in a year or so.

by apex05 - 2009-09-01 04:14
» Exploit

They already successfully stopped the Psp 3000 being hacked, i mean you can't use a Pandora's battery so all this unremovable battery does is piss people off and makes Sony more money when you have to pay to get it replaced.. The fact is people will always find software exploits and do nearly everything a fully hacked Psp can do.

by Acteon - 2009-09-01 05:17
» Uh, yeah...

I think you missed my point :) I have a PSP, but my choice whether or not to upgrade would be made much simpler if they gave us some straight answers. Such as the details of this "trade in" scheme they've been so vague about...



I'm also aware that the Go! is useless for imports, which cuts the game library in half for those of us in the UK.



Oh, and to those saying the PSP has no decent games, you don't know what you're talking about.

by nonosabes - 2009-09-01 05:17
» History

It's look to me like Sega's mistakes are repeating but this time with Sony's PSP. Replacing or upgrading it's consoles so fast and forgetting the fans,buyers,gam ers, even the developers they are taking or the pie because if you buy a new Psp non of the 3rd parties are winning and, what is this the 3rd same console in less than 2 years? and rumors about a 4th? c'mon release more games (AVG 2 GOOD) and more accessible prices. And i now this is going to be misplaced but think a bout the Blueray now the market belongs to Sony you won't see good prices on any devices because they OWN THE MARKET. KCUF YNOS

by D.Dark - 2009-09-01 05:47
» No imports?

Question for all those people saying that the PSP Go will make imports unavailable....can't you just make a PSN account for Japan (or any other region) and just download the games from there?

by spitfyre1985 - 2009-09-01 05:56
» Stupid move

I tend to agree with what some of you guys have already said regarding Sony flooding the market with too many systems in too short of a time span. Also, if the details of the psp 4000 prove to be true the go makes even less sense if they are just going to re-introduce the umd in the very next version of the handheld.



I doesn't seem as though Sony has any real game plan here and as for the whole battle against piracy...they should have learned by now not to waste their time. As hard as they work to make the go impossible to hack their will be people every bit as smart or smarter than their engineers working to hack it.



I am sticking with my good old 1000 for now, I don't see any reason to upgrade until there is some type of improvement in the hardware and the processor.

by TheRockness - 2009-09-01 07:12
» Haha

It's only unhackable because it hasn't been released to the public yet. Calling something unhackable is simply a challenge to the hacker community. Maybe the challenge Dark Alex and co. have been waiting for.

by downloader1122 - 2009-09-01 07:20
» In theory yes, in practise no

Instead of importing a boxed game with pre-order give-away you now need to import PSN Cards. It's up to publishers to collaborate with Sony to sell special edition promotional cards that still come with preorder figurines and such.

by downloader1122 - 2009-09-01 07:31
» Just like their Clie product line

Released so many Clie handheld organizers in such a short time before canning it and now look where Apple are in the handheld/smartphone market. The only difference is Sony needed to release new hardware to reassure developers the platform was "secure" and worth investing in.



Plus with many PSP games including GTA: CTW going to iPhone Sony's fate in the handheld console market is looking grim.

by RSX46 - 2009-09-01 07:53
» PSP-Go

PSP-GO = FAIL!

by Cyber-X- - 2009-09-01 09:22
» I give it 3months...

And then it shal be hacked like the 3K model..





Near future.. (2025)

*PSP6000 on it's way again..* :/



F@CK! Where is PSP II?...



-X- :)

by FreePlay - 2009-09-01 10:06
» Heh.

An interesting bit of a legal bind, that.

by pewpie - 2009-09-01 10:17
» yawn

This brainfart is sponsored by Sony Corporation and brought to you by the letter W and the number zZZz.

by ShinseiTom - 2009-09-01 10:31
» Huh?

If that applies to the PSP GO..... I read the line I think that came from, and the PSP doesn't require a constant energy source for medical or any other use, therefore it should have instructions for at least taking out the batteries, right?



So how are they going to sell a non-end-user replaceable system if law requires it to be replaceable?

by vizard00 - 2009-09-01 11:04
» lol

MR John Koller the GO will be hacked soon , hope u lose your job then .

by Applesin - 2009-09-01 11:31
» no wai

Before a new fw update comes out and we get this fixed. The PGO has 2 major flaws:



The 1st one is the buffer overflow exploit found in the video feature of the pgo.



The 2nd is the one found with the connection via usb or "media" port as it seems to be called, which holds something similar to what the iphone had, thou it doesn't have any backup hardware failsafe such as the iphone/touch does, so were kinda lost on that one.



Still... injection code is possible. You'll just have to mask your code in a media format which the pgo supports, i.e mp4 containers with a suitable codec w/ a checksum that it detects and would load up rather than giving you the default error code, not bypassing the check in any way other than checking for the textstring found in the beginning of the file.



The basic idea is simple, it's something similar to how flash can be exploited on web-browsers although not often used since either it gets patched or the hole stays open with *****ty browsers like IE.



kthx.

by Nineball - 2009-09-01 11:51
» If you buy a PSP Go (Away)....

Then all I can say is that a fool and his money are soon parted and you don't deserve cfw.

by nate443556 - 2009-09-01 12:21
» The PSP community is especially unrelenting

I agree. I don't think Sony will ever be able to make a model/firmware that can't be hacked. Some will take longer then others, but it's inevitable.

by TPot - 2009-09-01 13:25
» I think I found the loophole.

It only applies to waste batteries. That probably doesn't include recharchable ones. Although we all know they become waste after a number of uses.

by xXSniperXx - 2009-09-01 14:36
» Nice Plan...

I hope the PSP GO! will never be hackable right now!Anyone tried to hack it must be go to jail if possible...XD

Good Job Sony!!!

by vizard00 - 2009-09-01 14:58
» lol

hope psp go get hacked 1 day after public release , no i think psps scene are waiting it .

by ho-oh arabia - 2009-09-01 15:20
» Well.......

I call shenanigans on you Mr. Koller. When there is a will, there is a way. Some things will take longer than others, but rest assured it WILL happen one day or another.

by Nezumi - 2009-09-01 17:13
» Loops

Well, even removable batteries get discarded after time. However:



'...safety performance, medical or data integrity reasons...'

That one kid that got burned by the PSP battery overheating; Safety and medical.

Pirating in general; Data integrity.



'...continuity of power supply is necessary and requires a permanent connection between the appliance and the battery or accumulator.'

They could claim, via their programming, that it is necessary...

by Nezumi - 2009-09-01 17:17
» 2025?

They are working on PSP-4k, give it only til 2011 for a PSP-6k.

by Nezumi - 2009-09-01 17:21
» Hack the Planet

I'm not for pirating games, but I'm against limitations. I like 3rd party things. Would your TI-83+/TI-84+ or whatever may be now, have been as fun in school if they were just normal calculators with a lot of buttons? No. Everyone enjoyed many games from space shooters to pac-man. Hell, I programmed music on mine.

by NakedFaerie - 2009-09-01 17:39
» nope

You really think buying from PSN is going to be cheaper?

Look at GT5 prologue. Online its $49 but in the shops its $29.



I think the PSP GO will be a flop from the start. No shops here are going to sell it as they only make a $10 profit and they dont sell any games for it so its not worth it to them.



I give the PSP GO a 6 month life span. Either it WILL run CFW or it will die very quickly.

by xXSniperXx - 2009-09-01 18:07
» lol

Mr.Koller,the next thing you should do is make the PSP GO! self-destruct when someone tried to hack it.

by billylee8 - 2009-09-01 19:40
» Again with the exclamation mark...

THERE IS NO EXCLAMATION MARK!!! Media Go doesn't have the exclamation mark either. Might as well just call it a "Game Boy"...

by Jupp3 - 2009-09-01 20:02
» battery desolder

"There's no external [PSP Go] battery, so there's a number of protections put into place on the system."



It would be a really epic fail, if their super duper anti-homebrew protection was nothing more than "forcing user to open the system and desolder the battery to get custom firmware flashed" :-D



So from homebrew prevention point-of-view I can see no point in making the battery harder to reach, that alone just "is not enough"

by houaruto - 2009-09-01 22:25
» that must be the hundredth same dumb post

so many pirates have been using that idiot phrase if u can't run homebrew on it ...it will die out..............if u been living under a rock all this time..............the psp and the ps3 are selling strong the ps3 is hack proof and it won't die anytime soon not until after the 10 year lifespan...................if ur 2 cheap to buy a game the go read a book or get a job

by Sephiroth86 - 2009-09-02 01:00
» "longer than others"

I wish people would stop saying "then" when they mean "than".

by Ray2Jerry - 2009-09-02 01:49
» All I read was a challenge to modders! haha

He's taunting you guys... are you going to just let him get away with that? I mean he was right all those other times about Sony's flawless copy protection and anti-modding technology, but perhaps this time is different? lol



Koller, my dear sir, what is it that sold all those original PSPs in the first place? The solid games you've been making for it? The same ones that even pirates won't even bother to download? lol



The battery idea was brilliant, instead of just removing service mode from the old battery why not make it impossible to change them on the new PSP? What's next, selling PSPs with only one game hard-built into it like the handheld LED games of the 80s? (I call dibs on 3-Point Shot!)



So UNTIL the firmware IS hacked we'll see how well that little new old device will do... and then we'll see the sales after hack ;) Actually I'm pretty much certain there might not be a difference afterall lol

by Ray2Jerry - 2009-09-02 02:23
» Just to clear things up...

For the record, I own 3 PSPs and love them, but added to what the original firmware was lacking on them and would expect the same from any device a person BUYS.



So in no way was this just another fanboy attack of some kind. Was just an opinion on another corporate strategy gone wrong...

by 3laiwy - 2009-09-02 04:32
» I really want homebrew as much as the next person but

There has been hardly any homebrew releases lately.. for a while, most of the releases are Emulators and hardly any homebrew game.



I'm disappointed, I really love homebrew but nobody is contribuating to make some new homebrew games.



Even though I can't code, people should make some full homebrew games.



Most of the homebrew games were specifically made for PSP-1000, unless they make new homebrew projects or something, I'm all in for hacking the PSP GO, but unless there are some awesome mods/homebrew they shouldn't hack the PSP GO

by Rosh31 - 2009-09-02 05:20
» Epic Fail.

What are you supposed to do if the psp freezes badly? You can't take the battery out! That's ridiculous.. What if a little boy is looking at something hes not supposed to be on the internet and his mom walks in and he can't exit fast enough? He could always pop out the battery.. Or not!

by Kotonoha - 2009-09-02 09:27
» You fail at failing

Hitting Home would be faster than any alternative in that situation.



Also, holding the power switch for about 8 seconds always turns a PSP off, no matter what state it's in (within reason of course).

by PSPMAN90 - 2009-09-02 16:46
» TROW!!

Trowing the PSP to the side of the room will make it even twice as fast as fast!



Brilliant! lol

by PSPMAN90 - 2009-09-02 16:49
» PSP GO, and be hacked! Someday! lol

PSP Go it will be hacked someday, sony doesnt have an secret architecture, perhaps an unknown organization but it will be study by Devs, mods, coders, and crackers to get in to it and make the PSPGo , PSPFr33...



lol , fr33, lol

by reyknow - 2009-09-02 18:10
» ??

why does everyone keep saying ps3 is hack proof?? my ps3 is hacked and ive been buying pirated games for almost a year now!

by Ricochet__ - 2009-09-03 06:25
» Rip and Play

whats he mean by "You won't be able to rip your games and play them on the system" how can i do this on mine ^^

by DJKMan - 2009-09-03 09:35
» @reyknow

You actually buy pirated games? +P





Anyway, I still think it's possible to hack the PSP-Go. What about exploits in games?

by DJKMan - 2009-09-03 09:44
» ......

Trow? It's throw. +]

by DJKMan - 2009-09-03 09:45
» ,

Long tutorial short, Google.

by reyknow - 2009-09-03 15:27
» @djk

yes, but i buy the original if i like the game and for the multiplayer. the pirated ones cost only $2 USD so i buy em first to try the game out.

by home.grown.twinkie - 2009-09-04 15:59
» faulty battery

I hope they have faulty batteries thus making sony recall them and give out new ones.

Hackers will find a way to hack it. they always have. always will.

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