Dille: Sony "confident" in PS3 plans, PSP piracy is "sickening"

Posted Apr 21, 2009 at 7:17PM by Karl B. Listed in: Interviews Tags: BitTorrent, Peter Dille, piracy, Sony
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Sony PlayStation 3 - Image 1


Sony's Peter Dille has claimed that they are confident in their 2009 strategy for the PlayStation 3 home video game console, both in pricing and in content. When asked about price cut calls from some third-party developers, Dille said the following:

We have a big event every year called Destination PlayStation. All the third-parties attend; all the retailers attend. We don't have the press there for a reason -- because we want to be very candid in our plans and not have sort of the implication of having the PR aspects to those conversations.


When we lay out the plans to those folks there -- I think it might be fair to say that some people came into Destination PlayStation curious about what our plans were.


I think they all left really fired up about the year ahead because, once they understood what our plans were, we didn't hear any of that grousing that you're talking about -- certainly not from the folks that attended.


Sony PlayStation Portable - Image 1


Dille also touched on piracy, a constant problem plaguing Sony's PlayStation Portable handheld console. Calling the situation "criminal", Dille admitted that piracy has taken a big chunk of Sony's PSP sales and pointed out that it's not just Sony who's being affected:

It's not good for us, but it's not good for the development community. We can look at data from BitTorrent sites from the day Resistance: Retribution goes on sale and see how many copies are being downloaded illegally, and it's frankly sickening. We are spending a lot of time talking about how we can deal with that problem.


To curb the piracy problem, Sony is opting for "multi-pronged approach". Legal measures will be taken, of course, but Sony also wants to educate PSP owners on just how bad the problem has gotten:

...hopefully we can have a multi-pronged approach -- it's going to require legal; it's going to require education. I think gamers, if they understood if this meant that a platform would go away, can we convince gamers to pay for their content?




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by Donish1786 - 2009-04-21 14:23
» ima have to agree...

psp piracy is getting out of hand, i have a hacked psp, and love it, but we could honestly do without the piracy, thats why im hoping this new approach with games like patapon2 will be more successful of avoiding piracy

by doubleA - 2009-04-21 14:34
» o crap

"...hopefully we can have a multi-pronged approach -- it's going to require legal; it's going to require education."



I think sony might actually have some balls and go after all thoe pirates. I actually feel a little bad for sony. They`ve actually tried pretty hard lately to get people to buy a psp and to revive game sales for the devs but they keep getting shot down by piracy, lose dev support, and alot of money with trying this.



Its pretty bad and many piraters wonder why they don`t get anymore good games or support. Its mainly because of them (not that used game crap especially with PSP piracy #'s and most are arrogant bastards who wouldnt wan't to ever admit it or dont give a damn because theyre getting free games. Nothing is free and sony`s about to go lawsuit an all of thier cheap asses.



Just wan`t to say that ive really havent downloaded any games after realizing all of this. hopefully but doubt others will see this.

by SaintHobson - 2009-04-21 14:39
» Has my sales

No worries Sony, I'll always buy your games! Secure Suikoden VI for PS3 and you'll always have me

by Alistar - 2009-04-21 14:47
» Hmm...

Well, most pirates, especially on the PSP platform, still won't accept they are damaging the system. However, they all seem to ***** about not having any many good titles on the PSP.



It's also funny to note that most users won't go on any firmware that doesn't support ISO/CSO. Here I thought they wanted homebrew, when that is only a lie most say. What they really wanted were free PSP games.

by flammingcowz - 2009-04-21 15:12
» Your logic is flawed.

I've been with the scene since the PSP was first released, and as far as I know, there is no CFW that allows homebrew to be run without allowing ISO/CSO's. Some firmware versions that have been exploited without having a custom firmware(2.00-2.60) allowed some homebrew without downloaded games, but no one would go back to them as they are very outdated.



On another note, think about this situation and what you would consider a reasonable solution.

---You have a PSP and are looking for game X. Game X is no longer sold in major retailers, and can not be bought new. Game X is sold on ebay and second hand video game shops, but the developers see no money from its sales. Your PSP supports ISO's, you could easily download the game, or spend unnecessary money for it on a cumbersome and outdated medium.

Or say you have a system where it's impossible to find new games for, only overpriced used versions in the same places, would you rather spend unnecessary money or simply download them?

by du.der.icio.us - 2009-04-21 15:13
» interesting

However, I don't know that taking {x} number of pirates off of pirating equals {x} number of new sales.



Sony would do better to solve the used game problem.

{x} games not resold DOES IN FACT equal {x} number of new sales.



LISTEN SONY



Sell game licenses (locked to a specific psp).

Not game disks.

Not game downloads.

Sell LICENSES.



Now your media is worthless to ...

Hackers

and

Profiteers



And there you have it.

Problems solved.

by Metallica101 - 2009-04-21 15:57
» WOW!

^

|

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Smart one!!!

by Puntymario - 2009-04-21 16:00
» hmm

unfortunately the same shouldnt be said for japan only games. these games are usually the better ones out of the psp crop and unfortunately they only stay in japan. the only way to get these games is to pay much more expensive importing prices and they require credit cards and paypal. not everyone has access to those materials. this makes it extremely difficult to buy any good japanese game for alot of people. so how do you find a solution to that?

by Metal Jody - 2009-04-21 16:04
» i wish pirating wasnt my only option...

but i have no choice but to, because of my umd drive being ripped out and all. havent pirated in a few months though. homebrew's been good to me. :]

by Metal Jody - 2009-04-21 16:08
» game licenses

sounds like what they were trying to do with PSN. licenses are worthless.

by Metal Jody - 2009-04-21 16:14
» .

i'm going to stop pirating games now. i havent in a few months but i'm done. i wish everyone would stop too. if no one pirated, we'd probably have a Resident Evil or another GTA on psp. i feel sorry for those devs. no pirating and we'd have much cooler firmware updates.

by xyal_zx - 2009-04-21 16:56
» arrogant bastard

Hey your right man! thats why PC and Microsoft has been doing so terrible lately! Nintendo seems to be doing pretty bad too eh? All I have to say is damn Sony must be real broke after selling all those PSPs for ppl to play ISOs on I guess. Realization and speculation are not the same thing, PSP has been rivaling DS all over the world in terms of sales. UMD was a lame format. Realize that.

by mike_jmg - 2009-04-21 16:58
» I'm a sick criminal

At first I bought a psp so I could play snes on the go, then came the GBA emu by Exophase (thank you). and all was good and legal, I bought several games I liked.



Then I bought Burnout Dominator expecting something like Burnout Revenge on the PS2, I couldn't be more wrong, and I got really pissed off. Then 3.03 OE was released and I discovered I could play isos and csos, from that time on, I started downloading psp games.



Piracy or no piracy we would still have the same lame games and support. I'm not willing to pay around 50 bucks for some POS I'm not sure I'm going to like. I do have the UMDs of the games I really like but only those.



Make a Devil may cry game, a Resident evil, another God of war for the PSP and I'll buy all of them.

by auronvi - 2009-04-21 17:14
» It's pretty bad...

I love my Emus on my psp, my custom xmb, playing the PS1 games i own on my psp and ofcoarse no UMD to play PSP games. I own my share of psp games and I only dload the ones i would never buy but want to try out. I dloaded dissidia to give it a whirl before it comes stateside and I can't wait for it to come out. I will buy this title. My cable company recently threatened to shut off my service if they catch me dloading another illegal file so don't think sony isn't watching because they are. I am leaving the pirating scene and hoping i can come up with more cash for some PSP games. Of coarse they will have to run off of DarkAlex's as an ISO but i will own the UMD!

by kvadair - 2009-04-21 17:14
» If Sony didn't hate its customers....

I can't help but think there would be a lot less piracy on the PSP if Sony had not alienated so many of its customers in the first place.



Let's be honest about one thing, the homebrew community is not the same thing as the piracy community, but pirates are enabled by custom firmware. I can't help but think that if Sony had chosen to work with the homebrew community and provide support for limited applications (possibly by limiting the maximum size of an application to less than that of an ISO, or only enabling user mode support, or a selection of Sony approved content ...) then they could have avoided most of the problems they now have. Unfortunately they chose instead to fight homebrew to the death, and alienated the very customers that are in a position to pirate. Worse still they continue to fight this loosing battle by trying to shift to a download only strategy (aka Patapon 2), which only further alienates customers. Inevitably what will happen is that the downloadable games will get hacked by someone looking to use them on their 6th PSP (PSN ToS do not state what the limit is, but reports are currently 5 PSPs, which cannot be revoked without the PSP in quesiton). The hacked version will then get distributed via bittorrent and be easier to use than the DRMed version. This will cause purchasers and pirates alike to proliferate the hacked version. That is what happened when PC games have tried ever more invasive copy protection, and the result has been increasing piracy.



Sony when will you ever learn to view your customers with respect? And failing that, when will you learn that if you disrespect your customers they will disrespect you?

by LeXiO - 2009-04-21 17:46
» smart....NOT

I'm refering to flammingcowz response.



Your logic is wrong in a sense. It's not that you can't find the games, or that they are overpriced, it's that you missed your chance to get them when they were still being sold at these major retailers. That being said, if you really wanted to game in the first place, you would of gotten it. It's not a matter or waiting for the price to decrease, or any matter really. It's that you're a pirater, and no matter what anyone says, all PIRATERS are the same. They pirate, and by pirating, they deplete the life span of whatever it is they are pirating, and then when it's too late, well...it's too late. No one to blame, but yourself, along with all other piraters.

by RubberDucky451 - 2009-04-21 18:24
» PIRATING IS WIDESPREAD!

Everyone needs to understand that pirating is rampant on the DS also. All you need to do on a DS is order a cheap $40 flash cart and bam! It's hacked.



The DS is having the same problems when it comes to pirating, there is no reason for the PSP not to get great games like the DS. The psp has potential but without software it's useless.

by kupomogli - 2009-04-21 18:30
» xyal_xy

Don't be a douchebag.



Also. As for. "OMG THE PC ISN'T HAVING TEH PROBLEMS." The PC isn't just gaming, dumbass, and ontop of that, the amount of PC users are pretty much far more than any next gen system combined.



Aside from that. I'm sure you've heard of the major decline in PC game sale and that PC gaming is actually going towards downloadable games due to too much piracy?



Truthfully though. The PSP is a great system and the greatest portable. I emulate all on the PSP except for PSP ISO's. People say how much the PSP sucks and how it doesn't have the boatload of shovelware that the DS has and complain about it. These are the same people that pirate all the games.



If you're pretty much any gaming company. Are you going to want to develop for a system where the majority of people are just going to steal the games rather than purchase them? So the reason that the PSP isn't as big as it could be is infact because of the pirates, then they ***** and moan about the system having fewer games released than any other.



I own 43 PSP games right now because it's my favorite portable system(a few imports.) I've got about 1/3 the titles that I have for the PSX.



Only games I've ended up downloading were Breath of Fire 3, Tales of Eternia, and Final Fantasy Dissidia. The first two were because I own them on my PSX and the PSP files are smaller. Dissidia because I'm buying it as soon as it's released.

by kupomogli - 2009-04-21 18:46
» Sortof, but sortof wrong.

I know more people with a hacked PSP than a DS flash cart in which I actually only know a single person who has a DS flash cart. I own three hacked PSP's and a DS with no flash cart.



In theory, there are a few reasons why the piracy isn't as widespread on the DS as it is on the PSP. With the PSP, you didn't have to spend any additional money to downgrade a system originally. Even when the slim came out, all you needed to know was someone who owned a pandora battery.



With the DS. It's 40 dollars for the flash cart. Atleast half of the userbase for the DS are well underage. Not many would know that you can get a flash cart to play DS games, and even if they did, where are they going to get the credit card to purchase those online? Out their asses? I'm pretty sure their parents wouldn't just allow them to post their credit card on just any site and guaranteed most wouldn't order online at all.



So with the userbase of the DS over that of the PSP, again in theory, the DS really has no problem with piracy because it's pretty much nothing most of them know how to do or could do. Point is. It's easier on the PSP.

by pewpie - 2009-04-21 21:30
» poor poor little sony

poor sony.



poor sony who dominate every aspect of consumer and commercial electronics at every level from components to fnished products.



sony is one of the most massive and prolific companies on the planet. the psp piracy problem is like a tiny gnat buzzing round the eye of a huge bull.



sony are doing the lame duck act.. and it don't work.

by zzk2001 - 2009-04-21 22:00
» What a Load of crap

It's Like saying a fast food place is getting made that everyone is making hamburgers at home and not going to them.



But anyways, PSP would not be as big as it is without piracy i know 1,000s of ppl who only got a psp because of CFW on the PSP.



Now i will say for all them ppl who just download and liked the game and does not buy it can go to HELL as if it's good you should support the ppl who made it BUT.



i don't know how it is around the world but down here the rental stores do not keep but 20+ PSP games in stock and 90% of them are super Old, And there's no way i am waiting 2-3 day for a rented copy to be shipped to me.



IDK what or how ppl think but me and my friends LOVE the UMD and having the box of the games we like, Even so i do not open them i just get the .iso of the game and play.

by Digitus - 2009-04-21 22:17
» ...

Well I have to agree that pirating games can really damage a platform but if there are people out there like me Sony saying "please pay for stuff" isn't going to do much of anything. I never got to mod my PSP because I sold it but I have a modded 360 and a regular 360. I get "backups" of the majority of all my 360 games but if there's a game out that I feel needs some support (like a new IP trying to make its mark or an ambitious sequel or something I'm just a big fan of) I'll buy a real copy. If I get another PSP I'll probably only buy games developed by NIS, Square, and other RPG heavy developers and just pirate everything else. When it comes down to it I don't want to spend money if I don't need to lol.

by Alistar - 2009-04-21 23:47
» Hmm...

flammingcowz :



There is a firmware that lacks the ability to launch ISO/CSO yet still offer the ability to launch homebrew. I should know, I use it, it's XiaoFeiChong's firmware.



You say my logic is flawed but then you continue by being wrong... Mate, I'm not gonna bother reading the rest of your reply. :)

by ~~ - 2009-04-21 23:55
» ~~

Same here !



Hope it's gonna turn out better than 5 or 4 though...

by zach - 2009-04-22 00:56
» What's the new approach?

I know Patapon 2 is PSN only in the US, but the PSN DRM is decrypted...

by samstrand90 - 2009-04-22 01:50
» Defo not just PSP....

True PSP piracy is "sickening" but then again the Nintendo Wii, DS and 360 Piracy is getting rather rampant as well.

The new DSi however has managed to acheive some protective measures against piracy but as for Wii...... thats on the same boat as the PSP.



I know quite a few people who are tottaly against PSP pirating and know that it's killing the console..... but I highly doubt educating these people on piracy will get them to stop.

As long as theres a free alternative.... people will carry on pirating.

by demologik - 2009-04-22 02:21
» Open Letter to Sony.

Dear Sony, I have an idea that will work. Allow full downloads of your games, with multiple security checks during usage of the game. Allow an open source firmware so the homebrew community can flourish, but not harm the systems software sales, and with every UMD sold, offer a locked iso version of that game. Its obvious that reading the game from an internal or flash drive is WAY faster than using a UMD, that is why I download my games. Convenience. Offer your customers a better solution, work with us, not against us. We can come together and save the PSP. Just open your doors to us so we can shape the future of the PSP together.



sincerely,



-PSP Userbase.

by Hekynn - 2009-04-22 03:15
» STOP THE PIRACY!!

You *****ing pirates and hackers need to stop this other wise their will BE NO GAMES AT ALL FOR THE PSP YOU MOTHER *****ERS!

by ~~ - 2009-04-22 03:57
» ~~

"But anyways, PSP would not be as big as it is without piracy i know 1,000s of ppl who only got a psp because of CFW on the PSP."



One could even say that Sony Playstation is this big because of piracy, it is a bit of a far stretch, but;



The PSX also had 'trouble' with piracy, I don't know a single person who did not own a chipped PSX, and every one of these people bought a PS2 and PS3 when they were released because they liked Sony's PSX and its games.

by Acteon - 2009-04-22 04:10
» More supply of existing games...

In the UK we get a fraction of the available games. No Yggdra, Jeanne D'Arc, Prinny... I'm sick of paying a fortune to import games - just get the bloody titles on PSN and be done with it.



I own over 40 PSP games, half of which are imports. I'm happy to shell out for titles, just make them available.



The only reason I use ISO's at all is to save carrying 40-odd discs around with me.



Oh, and perhaps releasing some decent PS1 titles on PSN might save me having to ISO my collection. Glad I held on to the discs now.

by tainogunslinger - 2009-04-22 04:54
» I own around 30 games (on UMD) already for PSP

...but I have to admit, I have downloaded several older titles that are only available thru import or USED games sales here in the last few months.



I will definately be buying atleast ONE copy of the good games coming out this year, keeping a digital copy for play amongst the other PSP's in the house for multiplayer.

by Serosis - 2009-04-22 05:59
» I know

Of a way to stop piracy, here we go...



Stop selling the PSP and just drop support for it all together.



There, problem solved.

by emcp - 2009-04-22 06:03
» mmmm

ILL TELL YOU WHATS DISGUSTING



sony's ps3 plan



lose money on each ps3

release fw update to break out of warranty ps3s

claim $150 back for repair

keep community waiting for press release

release a scheme called continuous play, but exclude OS failure

by _YOUR_MOM_ - 2009-04-22 06:21
» PIRACY IS AWESOME

IF I COULD DOWNLOAD BEER AND CARS I'D DOWNLOAD IT!



Licenses is the aids thats killing the psp,

A game (monster hunter 2g) is already released in japan over 9000 years and why isn't there a official english release yet?



Recently I bought a copy of the FFAC on the umd and compared to the japanese version its missing

The soundtrack in the music section (about 10 tracks)

and it has copyrights 'nd ***** intro's about 2 minutes.

The umd itself is bombarded with shiet liekz esbr 12+ parental advisory....

by eddib - 2009-04-22 07:15
» Hmm... nah!

Great way to generalize. I have a PSP, I use it for music and video and the occasional ISO/CSO. I don't really WANT the free PSP games, but they're there so about twice a month (maybe) I race a couple laps F1. The only game I ever finished and played longer than a couple hours, is Loco Roco. And f*ck you, I bought that one!

Couple of friends use the PSP in exactly the same way as I do, so you should realize not everybody is an avid gamer. I just bought the thing cause it has cheap hardware.

by eddib - 2009-04-22 07:22
» so?

i have all the games I need, couldn't be happier

by Chronos15 - 2009-04-22 07:26
» .

Obvious /b/tard is obvious. anyway, some people don't buy games because they DONT have the money to buy 5 games lol. Simply because they don't want to get a job and the parents won't pay (My situation). So yeah, even if I didn't download the games, I'd never actually buy them anyway. I only have 1 game and that is Socom FTB2 because of the headset ;). Now playing resistance online WITHOUT hacks, like a normal player. Even though I do have an edge above other gamers since my psp reads the game quicker and my processor is overclocked to 333mhz. On default speed you'll notice why some people easily kill you.

by Sloma - 2009-04-22 09:48
» I agree with eddib below...

Well, I bought only 2 games for this system. Why? I don't know but I only use it for listening mp3, watching videos, and Homebrew apps and latter is my number one reason to have this system, not because of SONY but because of all talented people who create much better things than SONY like PSP Radio, IMHO.

by flammingcowz - 2009-04-22 09:56
» Your logic is flawed yet again, Alister.

You can't call me wrong without reading a whole statement, just like you can't convict someone of murder without all the evidence.

by Popson - 2009-04-22 10:38
» @demologik

And paint me bright colorful rainbows and let it rain skittles.



From the words of StepBrothers, Are You *****ing High?



An open source firmware? So the piracy community can make an app to disable your so-called "security checks"? Enough said.



"that is why I download my games. Convenience"

No, don't kid yourself. You download them because it will save you 30-50 bucks you could be spending on anything else. It's just as easy to rip a purchased UMD to a memory stick, then you get your speed and devs get what they deserve.

"Just open your doors to us so we can shape the future of the PSP together."

If you haven't already noticed, the doors have been blown wide open without the help of Sony.





What Sony needs to do is come out with the psp2. With any luck they will have security architecture similar to the ps3, so tools can't ruin it for the rest of us. If we're lucky it will even come with an option to install an alternate OS (similar to that of the ps3).

by *****bandit - 2009-04-22 10:46
» Why should they..

lol @ the folks saying Sony needs to work with you and Homebrew. I know I'm gonna get bashed, rated down and whatever but I don't really care.Homebrew is a bunch of useless crap for PSP in my opinion. Besides emulators, all the other stuff has virtually no use on a portable GAMING system. Wow PSP radio... -_- Ever hear of satellite radio? And what use is there for a JPEG viewer and crap like that? PSP can already do MOST of the stuff homebrew does minus the sloppiness. I'm sorry you guys can't find a better use for all that C++ junk you learned and what not. Homebrew just opens the door for piracy, and that's all it's done. Again, rate me down, call me ignorant or whatever. But convince me of a worthwhile PSP homebrew that ISN'T an emulator and I swear I'll take what I said back.

by Master Chef - 2009-04-22 11:54
» Actually xyal

The PC is having huge problems with piracy, more than any other system. Check out data on stolen copies of COD4 and Unreal 3. It's tens of millions of dollars worth of copies



Halo 3 and Gears 2 as well as some other games I can't recall atm are not being released on PC, ever, because of piracy.

by demologik - 2009-04-22 11:56
» Here you go.

IRshell, PSPTUBE, Geometry wars clone (the good one), powder (fun times), Browser speed hack, NES emulator, Genesis Emu, and the countless other emulators that run well on the psp, N64 emulator (once its running at full speed..) These are just a few things that make the PSP stand out from the other handheld systems..

by demologik - 2009-04-22 12:01
» wow.

hey *****, care to f*off?



Seriously, why you reply in such a harsh tone? I am only suggesting what WOULD work. And i have 16 PSP games on UMD that are also - GASP! - ISO's on my memory stick any game not worth buying is deleted. I buy only what is worth buying, if i don't like the game enough to play it any more than a few times after initial download, it gets tossed.. I have 14 PS3 games, and 18 Xbox 360 games. so don't tell me im not supporting the effing gaming industry. Take your flaming elsewhere.

by *****bandit - 2009-04-22 12:06
» ummm okay

IRshell is useless, I had it and didn't understand the use of it. PSPtube, that's something that would get added via official FW update though. Geomotry wars? Some kind of boring homebrew game? Powder sounds like another boring homebrew game, sorry. Browser hack? What you need that for? And again, that's something that could be added via official FW update. I also asked not to name an emulator lol.

by TLC_Nyk - 2009-04-22 13:36
» Supporting the industry

Not sure what region you are in but I would guess that there are well over 400 PSP titles available so that 16 amounts to being there. Having all titles would really be supporting the industry ok ok how about half.

by djman855555 - 2009-04-22 17:41
» yea

i won't lie i pirated maybe 10 games. but even before pirating went through the roof we only had a few decent games and even those only lasted a few hours. i will buy rock band and lbp once i get my umd drive fixed soon

by TranceKuja - 2009-04-22 17:59
» Well...

Of course piracy isn't a good thing, but it's just as easy to pirate games on the DS. Why are there no complaints about that?

by djman855555 - 2009-04-22 18:54
» uh

nintendo sued the developers of the R4 chip

by Moonie_14 - 2009-04-23 03:01
» PSX....

Id like to point out that i am one of the supposed rare people that hasnt had there psx chipped. I still have it in my cupboard and it hasnt been modified in any way. I then use all my original game to make a psp EBOOT for all my favourite games on the go!

by *****bandit - 2009-04-23 03:27
» Make that 2

Yeah I owned one of those "rare" (lol) unchipped PSX systems too. The internet wasn't even as common to have as it is now. Not to mention a decent PC lol. If the earlier comment was true then average games like Battle Arena Toshinden would have never made the Greatest Hits. -_-

by downloader1122 - 2009-04-23 05:10
» Dille: 50 million potentially compromised units

Check computerandvide ogames.com (article 208211), it says at PSP passed 50 million sales in February 2009 (not shipped, actually sold). Wikipedia also cites this article.



Then check Gamasutra.com (story 23301), Dille also says "there are 50 million potentially compromised units out there". Surely this is obvious, 50mil sold, 50mil can compromised. But news outlets like gamesindustry.biz spin it to "at least" 50 mil.



I find spin sickening.

by downloader1122 - 2009-04-23 05:15
» Because...

You're looking at the PSP section of QJ. I'm sure somewhere on the internet you can find a news site that moans about DS.

by Shatterdome - 2009-04-23 09:25
» ...

You cannot look at hardware sales of the PSP and say that "The system sells well so why are they *****ing?".



Anyone knows that a company makes more money of the software than the hardware. Luckily Sony probably makes SOME money off the PSP now, but that does not help developers at all. Sony also loses royalties if no games are being sold.



If the PSP had never been cracked and everyone had to buy their games, PSP's would probably be at least $50 cheaper by now. Who knows since PSP is a part of the same division as PS3 as a whole, we might have even seen PS3 price drops....since they could recover the losses with PSP game sales...

by xyal_zx - 2009-04-23 22:11
» buy your games

look buy the games you want, pirate the ones you dont. its not going to effect the companies.



if you would never have paid for a game in the first place, pirating it wont make a damn difference. nothing will ever change that.



if opinions were quarters id be a millionaire.



all those figures just tell me that ppl dont want to pay for some ***** game but are willing to try it. Dille says those figures are from the first day?



If those users couldnt get access to the game the day it came out perhaps they were just eager to play before they had a chance to buy it.



this is a very easily justifyable reason to pirate. i own it already or i will own it soon enough.



i buy the games i actually play, and my psp library is the largest next to my ps1 list.



i have to pirate to play 90% of the ps1 titles i would like on the psp. if sony wants to punish me for it, ill use a laptop with microsoft windows.



it wont effect anyone, not sony and not microsoft. nintendo sure doesnt seem to be overly concerned. they have to show some effort for the dev teams but we all know they have the lamest anti piracy approach. also they dont want to criminalize their customers.



and master cheif, microsoft waited until halo 3 to release gears of war and halo 2 on pc. maybe in a year or so we will have h3 and gow2 by then.

but ya your dumb if you think 360 is going to multi-console their 2 best console selling titles.



make up whatever reasons you want but saying "actually" in order to enforce the solidity of your opinions just makes you sound nerdy chief.



sony and microsoft will do just fine without their videogame console sales. believe it.

by *****bandit - 2009-04-24 03:41
» ACTUALLY.

"look buy the games you want, pirate the ones you dont. its not going to effect the companies."



Really? That's got to be as ignorant as someone believing their 1 vote doesn't make a difference. Seriously tell that to all the CFW PSP users and they will say "Yeah, I'm just going to download Resistance because I might not have bought it anyway". Spin it however you want dude, that's the general mindset in piracy. And no chances are you won't get a majority of them to "support" the devs by buying a game they likely finished.



"tif opinions were quarters id be a millionaire."



Yeah, tell me about it, hah!



"tIf those users couldnt get access to the game the day it came out perhaps they were just eager to play before they had a chance to buy it."



I don't see how, unless you're telling me that major retailers like GameStop are going bankrupt left and right now. Chances are, if you can afford a monthly service fee for broadband internet (I know you aren't fixing to tell me people will download 1 gig on a 56k modem), then you can afford to drop 30-40 bones on a new game.



"this is a very easily justifyable reason to pirate. i own it already or i will own it soon enough."



But this isn't the case, and we're talking about thousands of potentially sold games. I'd be lying if I told you I pirated FF: Crisis Core because I knew I might support the devs and buy the game eventually. Honestly, I can say it's hard to want to do that considering my financial situation. Add that to the fact I already finished the game. If the option wasn't there I'd have bought Crisis Core instead of blowin my money on whatever.



"I buy the games i actually play, and my psp library is the largest next to my ps1 list."



Good for you, but your integrity is not the issue here. And hey, if you're buying games anyway, what's your beef here exactly?



"I have to pirate to play 90% of the ps1 titles i would like on the psp. if sony wants to punish me for it, ill use a laptop with microsoft windows."



lol I seriously don't believe they're going to start sending out FBI agents to our houses checking our PSPs for illegal copies of games. This just means they'll probably pursue torrent sites that distribute the content. I'm sure you realise though, that those PS1 titles we've all enjoyed on our PSPs, are copyrights of those companies. Consider that the PSN store may not have as much PS1 content as it should. Why should Capcom, or SE release a good PS1 game on the PSN when they know most of us can rip our original/backup and do it ourselves for free?

by ElfyEikkal - 2009-04-26 23:51
» so for short.

there are many consequences when people pirate their games. i shudder to think what would happen to the PS3 if its cracked. that will probably topple the Sony Gaming division. since the PS3 lack sales. XBOX is also suffering from Piracy. at least the RROD helps to curb down piracy.

by blackthorn - 2009-04-29 09:29
» ***** it

I couldn't care less about $ony QQing about Piracy to be honest. Over 90% of all commercial PSP games are utter ***** and you have no money back policy when you take home the piece of crap in UMD goodness, so I don't blame anyone for not even bothering to play by Sony's rules - they can go ***** themselves quite frankly.

by blade2577 - 2009-05-03 12:03
» Agreed.

Actually I agree with xyal_zx's last message.



And you know *****bandit you just looked like an idiot right there. I don't strongly mean to offend but I have downloaded games that I just wouldn't buy.



Why? Because I buy the games I like. As for the PSN store sorry but youve made enough money back in PS1 sales I will not kneel myself again to giving you money.



Back to the PSP games, I download games that I wont EVER buy. Some games I just want to try out, some games I just want to waste my time on it. For instance, I don't EVER but EVER buy fighting games. Why? Just not going to waste my money on games with bad replay value. But I've downloaded Bleach Heat The Soul 1-4 or 5 idk anymore, Mai Hime games and many more fighting games that I just wouldnt waste my money on.



What games have I played and not bought umm lets see... LOTS AND LOTS of japanese games because I cant go to a store and buy them and I really dont think its fair to pay lots of money for shipping and handling from a foreign country which means more money wasted. Since I cant go to Japan and before I couldnt even order online that means most basically %75 of all my PSP ISOs I wouldnt have bought anyways.



But seriously "one vote doesnt make a difference" ? Had to quote that saying, its not even including this case. Because as he said before 'some games you just wont buy, keep pirating, and just buy the games you want to buy. Chances are you wont buy them anyways.'

*paraphrased*



Is true but the problem with that not everyone thinks like you and there are people that just download the games instead of buying them, even if they love them. If everyone thought like that, then Sony would stop complaining.



Regardless *****bandit , some people do think like that, just not all, so stop the bashing.

by *****bandit - 2009-05-05 14:27
» My issue here is

Well said, thanks for not directly flaming me. But look, I'm not trying to move mountains and change everyone's opinion on piracy. No, just pointing out that it's our complacency with the issue and ignorance that is in fact hurting the PSP on the software side. I won't deny that it may have helped them move units, but it IS a problem. Look at underperformers on the DS, GTA Chinatown Wars moved about 300k units(estimate here) and word is it saw about a mil of downloads. Tell me that isn't hurting the DS right there. Let's say you're in that group with this righteous mind-set of purchasing games you would buy anyway. I'd put you in that 300k side, while the other 1mil of downloads is happily playing that game for free. I'm not denying some of those downloaders went and bought the game. To be fair let's say all 300k were people who downloaded first, you'd still have 700k worth of unsold units right there.



"Why? Because I buy the games I like. As for the PSN store sorry but youve made enough money back in PS1 sales I will not kneel myself again to giving you money."



Got that 'customer is always right' mentality? Don't be so arrogant, you have to remember those games are still copyrighted by those publishers. My point is sir, that the more complacent we get with piracy the more it affects the amount of software we see. I personally have zero problem spending my money on a 1st generation PS game to play on my PS3. It's like gamers get in this "OMG THEY JUST WANT MY MONEY" mode and start trying to create some useless movement against the gaming industry. It's rather arrogant, and it's sounding very redundant the more I hear it. Good god just look at the post above "$ony blah blah eff you". Yet no one is talking about Nintendo's price fixing (Zelda still 50 bucks at most retailers)?



Oh and if you're downloading Naruto for a fighting game I almost lose all respect for you. lulz

by PT-X - 2009-05-10 18:11
» OK DUDES!!

Lets all do all my way!!

U download the game, Ok?

See if ya like it? If not just dont buy it!

U buy it u can download the same game!



Lets say how would u feel if ur pretty aawesome, cool games got pirate! Exactly!!! *****!!!....



I own alot of PSP game, PS3 games...eum lets see about 20 PS3 games right now. All top titel and ALot of PC games ( I dont download PC games cuz I wanna go online and compete in the tournament stuff...)



All agreed with me? Folks!!??

So im pretty legal lol ...... Go sony!! hold on tight mate XD..



AND 1 More THING!!! SONY give the goddamn PSN card!!!

We European wanna Buy content to U knw Geez..!!!

IF read this PLS!!!!! Im dying for it...well not that but close XD ahahha....PLSSSS!!!

by Echo12 - 2009-05-10 21:40
» Morons..

It is also sickening to see a lot of people trying to defend piracy. They just can't admit that they pirate because they are cheapskates and want all things to be free. Yeah I know some violent reactions may arise from this comment but the hell I care. Also Piracy isn't just rampant on the PSP; it is also on the DS, PS3, PS1, PS2, PC nearly every platform you can think of.



I just hate it when somebody blames piracy on a developer or the company who made the platform because of not making "Good Games" or "Not fulfilling their wish list for the platform". That is not enough reason to pirate but it is enough to call you fickle minded.



Do a little research on the game before you buy it to know if it is good or not. If it is not good enough for you don't buy or even pirate it.

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