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PSX-P in licensing trouble?

Posted Sep 25, 2006 at 9:05AM EST by QJ Staff

Listed in: Homebrew Emulators, News, Rumors, Emulators, Opinions & Analysis Tags: FreePlay, IRC, PS1, psp homebrew emulators, PSX-P, Yoshihiro

PSPSONE

The news just keep flowing in! First, we had the teasers about the newest PS1 emulator on the block, PSX-P by Yoshihiro. Then there was the release which was welcomed with open arms by the whole community. After all, a homebrew PS1 emulator is not something people can code in a day!

But then, as much as things change, some things stay the same... It seems that the PSX-P is nothing but code ripped off from PacManFan's PSPSONE emulator which made its rounds on the net a few months ago. And it seems that people have a lot of evidence to suggest the same. FreePlay showed off some of the evidence while we were talking on IRC a few hours ago. Here's some of the text:

"String dump of the PSX-P:
Greets to: Duddie, Tratax, Kazzuya, JNS, Bobbi, Psychojak, Shunt,
Keith, DarkWatcher, Xeven, Liquid, Dixon, Prafull
Special thanks to:
Twin (we Love you twin0r), Roor (love for you too),
calb (Thanks for help :) ), now3d (for great help to my psxdev stuff :) )
PCSX a psx emulator
written by:
main coder: linuzappz
co-coders: shadow
co-coders: PacManFan for the PSP port
ex-coders: Nocomp, Pete Bernett, nik3d
Webmaster: AkumaX"

A string dump is basically a collection of all the strings (human-readable words) in any program. They're generally messages which are shown during the execution of the program. So, for example, in any hello world program, you can find that string when you do a string dump of that application.

That's not all. Here's what PacManFan had to say about these turn of events:

"I did pass the torch, However, Yoshi[hi]ro said he would at least mention me, and he didn't. I hate to be an a$$ about it, but Yoshi[hi]ro has been claiming that he coded this thing himself. The only change he's made so far has been to the game selection screen."

We here at QJ are totally neutral about this. While other sites have received emails from the original creators of PCSX (The guys who made this emulator for the PC), we haven't. So what we can do is wait and watch as these events unfold. Obviously, all Yoshihiro would have to do is release the source code of this emulator since the original code was under the GPL license, which states that no derivative works can be released without source code.

Personally, I hope that people can sort out this mess. The homebrew scene is on a roll lately and I don't want to see it being stopped by some petty code-theft. Let's just hope something good comes out of this.

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You have done great work and this emulator you've shown off has bumped PSP scene.

I mean in early 2006 the PSP homebrew scene was fading, until you and your SonyXteam, Dark_Alex, Fanjita, etc kicked it all the way back!

Just do what they say and release the source code. I mean sure you might prenounce as "bad" because of the fact that you might get duplicates, but remember that very few games can run on this and making of something the same that was already copied off is not good and totally ripped off.

Just keep going Yoshi, cuz what I can tell you is that this is the ONLY working PSX emulator for PSP, in my opinions.

Français :

Vous avez effectué le grand travail et cet émulateur que vous avez montré au loin a frappé la scène de PSP.

Je veux dire dans 2006 tôt que la scène de homebrew de PSP se fanait, jusqu'à ce que toi et votre SonyXteam, Dark_Alex, Fanjita, etc. l'aient donnée un coup de pied toute manière en arrière !

Faire juste ce qu'ils disent et libèrent le code source. Je veux dire que sûr vous pourriez prenounce en tant que « mauvais » en raison du fait que vous pourriez obtenir à des reproductions, mais vous rappelez que très peu de jeux peuvent fonctionner sur le ce et faisant de quelque chose les mêmes qui ont été déjà copiés au loin ne sont pas bons et totalement déchirés au loin.

Subsistance juste Yoshi allant, cuz ce que je peux te dire qu'est que c'est le SEUL émulateur fonctionnant de PSX pour PSP, à mes avis.

# woooo high5!!! — Guest 2006-09-25 10:25

so yoshi ""stole"" "open source" software?

oh wait, it's "theft" because the source code is not released? maybe it will come around BETA stage instead of the ALPHA-SHUT-UP-WHINING-KIDS-HERES-YOUR-PROOF-PREVIEW

# STFU — Guest 2006-09-25 10:26

I can do all I want... because i am a n00b lamer azz! 1337 h4x0r, yeah! thats what I am...

# good grief — Guest 2006-09-25 10:27

This must be what it's like for big-wigs at Sony and Nintendo looking at this and all other hacking sites...lol. Of course, that wasn't meant as a slam to this or any other hacking sites with good original homebrew that credits it's authors

# Guest 2006-09-25 10:33

Care to also mention the flashing effects?

Seriously, screw Yoshi.

# #14 — Guest 2006-09-25 10:36

Uh, #14, you do realise that because it's under the GPL license, and he didn't release source, he in fact DID steal it?

# Guest 2006-09-25 10:36

Why only yoshi have to release source? Pacmanfan have to release sourcecode of his emulator (PSPSone) too, because it's based on pcsx....

# you r dumb qj! — Guest 2006-09-25 10:39

all he had to do is to give us a readme and release the source code

because of you i may stop coding the psx-p emulator thx!

# Guest 2006-09-25 10:42

Kindergarten - and the emulator sucks anyway.

# Guest 2006-09-25 10:44

Ahah, wow he didn't code this ? Really ?

He's known as a professional stealer but you fu|

# Guest 2006-09-25 10:44

YOSHIHIRO IS ABSOLUTELY INCAPABLE OF PRODUCING SOMETHING FROM SCRATCH.

He lied and got many peeps to brick their PSPs and EVERY time he "releases" something, it turns out to be stolen.

He's a *****ing retard in my book

# lol — Guest 2006-09-25 10:44

i knew it was 2 good 2 b true. c'mon, it's "yoshihiro"...he's not even japanese! LOL. if his name was muhammed, it woulda made more sense...and he'd start off on the "legit" leg, but wutever.

he can't be banished from the homebrew scene because he has every right to be there, legit or not. so he's not coding from the ground up...has any of you coded anything for the scene? in that very sense, if he should be banished for contributing maybe just 1% into his "work", so should the rest of us since all of us just ***** and whine about stuff that we didn't code.

lastly, if the cat did use the code w/o giving props, wow...he must be real 1337. all he had 2 do was say "yeah, nagger, you got jacked, PacManFan."

# Guest 2006-09-25 10:48

I knew this would happen people have been saying this when the emu was released

# Yesterdays news — Guest 2006-09-25 10:48

Someone posted a link to this in a comment yesterday.

The site in the link had actually yanked the download off of their site, saying they won't put it back up until he complies with the GPL.

# Guest 2006-09-25 10:48

Too bad he had no time to ask for money this time :'( poor yoshi

# well yoshiro deserves most of the credit — Guest 2006-09-25 10:51

When pacmanfan was working on his emulator it couldn't run any normal ps1 rom , just a proof of concept , now yoshiro made a playable ps1 emulator usingless than 2% of pacmanfan's work , I don't really think pacmanfan deserve any credit at all. Pacmanfan's just probably jealous of what Yoshiro has done. This is like if a guy gives you 1 page of a books his writing and you add it 49 pages , I don't think the one who wrote the first page deserves any credit at all.

# To 19: BUZZZ — Guest 2006-09-25 10:53

Why only yoshi have to release source? Pacmanfan have to release sourcecode of his emulator (PSPSone) too, because it's based on pcsx....

Wrong, PMF DID release the source code... any more dumb statements, or will u quit while ur only a little behind

# @#19 — FreePlay 2006-09-25 10:54

Simple. PacManFan released the source code for all the versions of PSPSone that he RELEASED. For the unreleased versions, he doesn't have to release his code. Duh.

# How surprising — Guest 2006-09-25 10:55

Gee, nobody saw that coming.

# Sh***t — Guest 2006-09-25 11:02

anyway...this emulator is a crap ! Like Daedalus ! This guys just want a spotlight !

# Dude, who gives a ***** — Guest 2006-09-25 11:04

As long as the psp scene has a ps one emulator, no one should care about "is it legal" yosihiro if you can actually code but cant release it to the public, release it on some illeagal site or in a torrent.

# Look GPSP — Guest 2006-09-25 11:05

A simple guy.... Hi´s made a fullspeed emulator and don´t tell !!! "EVERYONE ! LOOK HOW I M SO COOL !!!!" Just made it......

# Guest 2006-09-25 11:05

#32- Do you even KNOW HOW HARD IT IS TOO CODE? HUH!!!

I agree that it is bogus that this guy stole but dont go making fun of the daedalus emulator, its doing fine. You try. They are trying to give you free stuff and your complaining. Shuddup.

# Guest 2006-09-25 11:09

Stealing is wrong.

# Guest 2006-09-25 11:18

this again? -__- he'll never learn. give credits where it's due, release the source and everything will be fine (except your credibility...)

# lol — Guest 2006-09-25 11:27

its funny to see you people who download and play emu or iso whining and crying at other people that steals roflmao

# #32 stfu — Guest 2006-09-25 11:28

daedalus is the best n64 emulator on the psp so just quit being a *****ing *****got, i dont see you making any emulators you *****faced *****sucker. And everyone else shouldnt say ***** either, though this code is stolen, it's the only psx emulator on the psp, so shut the ***** up and just appreciate it *****.

# wow — Guest 2006-09-25 11:28

wow thast messed up

# wtf — Guest 2006-09-25 11:35

ok the guys complainung that yoshi didnt give him credit, yet in the string it fully has PacMan listed.

# First Post — Guest 2006-09-25 11:39

OMG I GOT THE FIRST POST!!!1111oneoneone

AND ***** YOSHI. NEVER TRUSTED HIM AFTER THE WAB INCIDENT.

# Guest 2006-09-25 11:40

heh i feel like im watching wrestling again. so much suspense!

# . — FLai 2006-09-25 11:41

I am loving this new vengeful QJ thing. It freaking rocks! Keep up the opinionated articles. Loving this QJ! Things are really starting to change around here :)

# Keep up the work on Psx-p(pspone) Yoshihiro — Guest 2006-09-25 11:42

i hate people who whine about the little things the last pspone emu didnt run any Commical games only demo that go really really slow. now your make a big deal some one made better psx emu with Pacman Codes. show wat if you dont want your source code to be use DONT PUT it ON DAM WEB PAGE for people to change the code i bet you all steal a code to make your program run better plus. it not legal to use Nintendo sprite and run Roms on Emu the psp but we all do it. i hope Yoshihiro still make the Psx-p(pspone) emu run better on the psp. you all have to learn all Emu are not legal programs you still can get alot trouble for use them.

# Ahhhh, the retarded n00b — Guest 2006-09-25 11:46

# Oh No, Not A Halt On This!? — CHUCKINGROCKSATSPACESHIPS 2006-09-25 11:49

I want there to be future releases from somebody anybody. Please don't let this get in the way of bringing a PS1 emulator to the PSP. I don't care who gives us one as long as people can get along and do a great job. I don't check the news on all homebrew sites so as far as this progress goes, I am sorry that I don't know the facts to make a character judgement of anyone involved so I really can't commit on that but a PS1 emulator must live!!! PLEASE!!!

# Guest 2006-09-25 11:50

lmao does this guy just want attention or what?

maybe we should just ignore all work of his....like we'd miss anything:S

I had my suspicions about this when I saw the emulator the other day, brought back memories of his so called downgrader.....ANYONE remember that?

what a crock of *****e

# Well didn't he say it was a port? — Shamoo 2006-09-25 11:51

I mean in the other article on PSPU he said it was a port. So it's not like he claimed it. That's how I see it. But If he never mentioned it being a port that's pretty low. And reconigition is the only thing free coders can get from developing something and taking that away is like drop kicking uteruses that have babies =/

# Guest 2006-09-25 11:58

hah, that pacmanfan quote is from from dcemu, give credit to where the quote was from

# Remember.. — Bad Intentions 2006-09-25 11:59

Yoshi's 2.0 downgrader? Figures. And I thought he changed too.

# Yoshihiro you prick — Jordan Black 2006-09-25 12:01

You steal everything#

# dont call me retard if you all are bullheaded about change Source code — Guest 2006-09-25 12:08

FINE WHINE THE DAM CODE IS STOLE I JUST WANT RUNNING PSX EMU I DONT CARE WHO MADE IT I JUST WANT RuNNING PSX.you all should be happy you got someone to work on this psx-p now you all yell at him tell people he did nothing to it he did he change PSPONE CODE TO RUN FASTER, and run more Psx games. now your going make him quick because about the dam GPU watever *****

# lol — Guest 2006-09-25 12:25

yoshi planned the whole thing guys... god it was a freaking joke. QJ you need to take things more lightly.

# i called it — Guest 2006-09-25 12:26

weeks ago when we first heard 'rumors' about this yoshihiro psx emulator, i knew it was stolen code. if you've done any research on yoshihiro you would know he's notorious for stealing code back in the og xbox days. this is nothing new and obviously nothing has changed.

he lied about a downgrader and asked for donations then after the downgrader was released by a real coder, he asked the real coder to slap his name on it too so he could get some recognition and not look like the liar that he is.

he needs to leave this scene once and for all. get it through your head...we don't trust you...we don't like you...you don't do anything good for this scene or any other you are part of. you steal code. you lie. you're not a 1337 h4x0r. you're not a coder. you're a nobody. accept it.

pacmanfan i'm sorry it came to this bro. from the looks of the emulator you did an excellent job and you deserve the recognition for it. keep on working on your excellent emulator and release updates with no props to these theives. way to go bro. i knew someone with some actual coding talent had to be behind this...not some liar who can't even code a hello world lua demo.

u suck yoshihiro.

# Here we go again... — Guest 2006-09-25 12:28

Everytime I see "Yoshihiro" anywhere on the scene, and I am talking about him and his little gang of buttkissers, I know there is something fishy behind this. I mean, most of you don't even seem to remember the scam Yoshihiro did in the past...

Nothing he does is from scratch, he steals code, ideas, and gets his little peeps to help him doing the dirty job and then, he don't even mention the real coders behind this. I always said it, Yoshihiro is a scammer and he will continue to scam people who do believe him, and well, I don't.

All those downgraders, utilities and stuff... They are probably stolen as well, he probably didn't even figure it out himself, he just code it in.

Whenever you guys will open your eyes, you will see too. You forgive and forget too easily. In the meanwhile, allow me to say that Yoshihiro didn't bring the scene up, but he will certainly bring it down.

# Yoshi didn't steal any code, he just broke international.... — Guest 2006-09-25 12:31

Yoshi didn't steal the code, he just broke international copyright law.

The GPL must be upheld, whether he wants to or not. He must release the source code, or the people at PCSX can actually sue him and get the entire project shut down.

It has happened in the past. Plus, if he does release the source, the emulator can progress signifcantly faster. The same thing happened to links2 for the PSP also.

-liquidtenmillio n

# ***** bra — Guest 2006-09-25 12:35

yoshiro is now considered the gaiest guy on earth and pacmanfan is now god.

# are we living in iraq? — Guest 2006-09-25 12:37

who cares!!!

# You are all just jealous — Guest 2006-09-25 12:40

Just because you can't edit other people's source as good as Yoshi can you just get all jealous and flame him.

# to 62. — Guest 2006-09-25 12:49

well we can all just turn on the news and watch, if you want to ***** about iraq then go somewhere else. this isnt "Warupdates.qj.net"

# I'm sorry but...@1, @2, @3..... — KuffoMan_11 2006-09-25 12:52

as long theres a psone emulator if it's stolen or not I don't care. Face it every idea in the world is a stolen idea what makes it different is the expansion on that idea, Sony with there controller completely ripped off Nintendo on there Wii for motion sensing, does anyone really care? No. Nintendo knows Sony won't touch the sensor capabilities of the Wii, and they should be the most concerned. I don't think Yoshiro is a rat, I just think he plays his business dirty, like any other business out there: Coke then Pepsi, WTF! GameBoy then GameGear!? It's all business you see. Source codes were leaked maybe, Yoshi just one word stay true, don't cripple yourself unless you'll never make it anywhere.

-"Be open-minded, before you judge one thing, you must judge all." by Jesse Kuffo "Kuffoman_11"

# Peace..... — KuffoMan_11 2006-09-25 12:55

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# Glory Hog — Guest 2006-09-25 13:07

Yoshi is a glory hog. Sure he does alot of good but he does alot of bad too. Either way it doesnt matter as long as good results come out of bad things.

# ha — Guest 2006-09-25 13:08

who cares who made it first we all wanted one it was released it works slow yeh but if we ban it all us 1.5fw will have to upgrade to play ps1 i for one dont want to do that so everybody quit *****ing let him do what ever give the code to dark alex let him work on it i for one dont care who gets credit for it i just want to play ps1 games on my psp with out upgradeing. (also talking about illigal did any budy get nintindos pramission to make those super tux games or metroid or jazz jackrabit and the list goes on so what im saying WHO REALY CARES just make it faster and more compatiblety )know spellings bad not entering spelling bee

# #65 — FreePlay 2006-09-25 13:08

The difference here is that the program's original creator gave Yoshihiro the source with the ONE STIPULATION that he mention whose work it was based on. Yoshihiro didn't.

# There is such a simple solution to this... — nEcRo64x 2006-09-25 13:16

All he has to do is release the source code! Obviously the original version would not have been created without people following the GPL and sharing source code with others. I mean come on... its not that hard.

This just goes to support my opinion that Yoshi is a lamer who just wants attention and credit in the PSP. He also does not want to share that credit. It is such a *****ing shame too because you know what, everytime he releases something stuff like this happens. It has to turn into this huge thing that if he just wasn't a jerk off and followed the rules it could all be avoided.

Give credit where credit is due. Release the source code if the emulator is under GPL.

# i agree with 68 — Guest 2006-09-25 13:21

because what the point fighting over who owns the code do you all guys want a Psx emu run on 1.50 or Psx emu run on 3.00 and up with no homebrews and u have to pay for the game all over

# yoshi needs codes — Guest 2006-09-25 13:27

if this keep on happening, do u think other coder will release there code. in dat case, yoshi wont hav ne new codes to put together

# hmm — Guest 2006-09-25 13:29

didnt he make us donate money to him for a downgrader but then never gave it to us ?

# Guest 2006-09-25 13:39

Funny how you all moan about this being stolen,

even though half you lot complaining, probably downloaded your *****ing ps1 ISO's to play on the damn thing "FOR TESTING" LOL,

shut the F up, and get a grip

From my understanding, the original one didn't run retail PS1 games, an now this one can, YET the person who released it, Apparently has to prove that he coded it by releasing source code?

LOL

How about the people who say he stole it from them, release there emulator (the one it was stolen from) and see how the two compare

and let us chose what one we like best

also, who the ***** cares who made it, i don't even read the damn readme's of half the stuff i download OR buy for that matter

Names are for the nerds who like to keep track

# PCSX — Guest 2006-09-25 13:43

"How about the people who say he stole it from them, release there emulator (the one it was stolen from) and see how the two compare"

Yes, please let me know how PCSX runs, cuz from what I heard, its near full emulation... Plz don't talk out of your ass.... U make urself sound like one

# Guest 2006-09-25 13:56

@76

lol, you noob,

I'm on about the two PSP PS1 emulators, not comparing the PC PS1 emulator to the PSP PS1 emulator

There is already a ps1 emulator for the PC that runs games FULL SPEED, its called EPSXE

Show me the other PSP PS1 emulator that this one was STOLEN from, so we can compare them, then ill make my choice

# Guest 2006-09-25 14:11

one word

owned!

# U noob — Guest 2006-09-25 14:14

'@76

lol, you noob,

I'm on about the two PSP PS1 emulators, not comparing the PC PS1 emulator to the PSP PS1 emulator

There is already a ps1 emulator for the PC that runs games FULL SPEED, its called EPSXE

Show me the other PSP PS1 emulator that this one was STOLEN from, so we can compare them, then ill make my choice"

Well in over a year, I'd hope to god there would be a speed boost... in this case attributed to PCSX...

# Great! — branin 2006-09-25 14:23

Well, this is one way to encourage people to add on to the emulator.. I agree, if he did copy any part of it he should have have gave credit where it was due.. but isnt this taking it to far? posting on the front page about how he copied someone.. hmm, i cant wait till the next version is NOT released.

# #77 — FreePlay 2006-09-25 14:44

PacManFan himself said that this is just his own program with little modification.

Dont' believe me? How about the fact that by searching the file in the Config folder, you'll find three references to PSPSone?

# read the GPL before you spout bull***** about it — Guest 2006-09-25 14:46

has anyone asked yoshihiro for the source?

read the f'in' GPL.. you don't have to release source with every release...you don't even have to release it ONLINE...you just have to make it available on request.

he's not failing to comply unless he's refusing source when asked for it.

# FreePlay: Attorny at Law (lol) — Guest 2006-09-25 14:55

Yeah, good job on this FreePlay. I support PacManFan. :)

# Ahem... — Guest 2006-09-25 15:33

Ummm, it would be kind for him to give out a method of contacting him... And I haven't seen any source files floating around, so im doubting that...

And I believe he must PUBLICALLY release it with the binaries (correct me if im wrong, I'm not 100% sure of this one)

# .... — Guest 2006-09-25 15:59

ah watever... its still a working psp emu.. just start pumping that stuff out..

# asfasd — Guest 2006-09-25 16:08

yoshihero is a scammer dont listen to this *****er. fist he said downgrader and failed, now he scams ppl by saying he build the emulator without cheating off/porting other people work.

# Think about it — Guest 2006-09-25 16:35

If he coughs up the code, more coders = faster progress.

# BALLS — soopergooman 2006-09-25 17:33

Someone should be able to kick the other in the balls. 'Nuff Said!

# Guest 2006-09-25 17:37

if you retards are on this website its because you want to be able to use ur psp for as much as possible and for free so stop ur b**chin and just hope that this will be full speed someday soon dont take away from others having fun because technically hes stealing code which is in reality worth

nothing just stop whining and enjoy cuz were all stealing from sonys profits if u wanna be technical since were looking to get what others pay for for free its no diff den d/l movies or music .

# Guest 2006-09-25 18:42

"...which is in reality worth

nothing..." So you think if somebody invests hours of his freetime to get homebrew out to the community it isn't worth anything ?! It's nice to know that some of you "care" "so much". Concerning the controller example of Nintendo and Sony. I don't believe that it's a valid example, at no point did Sony use Nintendo parts and called it their own. We are not talking about stealing ideas. Somebody who never coded in his life probably can't understand why it's so important to credit code, even if it's just snippets. In my eyes Yoshi[hi]ro is an attention whore, it's pittyful if you can't give credit where it's due. So you have changed 10-20 lines of probably + 1000 lines of source code, WOW you are THE MAN ! You can fool people but you can't fool yourself. Why not code something yourself for a change, like a "Hello World" that's maybe 2-3 lines of code. I bet you are capable of doing that, if not you can always rip that code off of some C++ beginners forum and tell yourself you coded it on your own.

# Doesn't surprise me one bit — Guest 2006-09-25 18:52

Yoshi was always ripping off code from the get go. Mph's downgrader came and low and behold Yoshi came out with an "advanced Loader" or some crap like that.

Then came "Yoshi's Game Gear Emu", once again, ripped off and passed on as his work. And now this...seriously, if the subject reads "Yoshi's (insert app here)" and believe it, kick yourself in the arse.

Those who have been in the scene from the get go know the drama and bs that went on. I'm still waiting on his ISO loader :P. Please someone do a DDOS attack on Sonyxteam as I hate them and what they do.

# yo — anonymous stranger 2006-09-25 18:55

atleast yoshi gave us SOMETHING, you dumbasses go do something before cussing at someone.. yoshi isn't right for not including PacManFan in credit... but atleast we have a psx emulator in our hands right? I bet half of you people who cussed out yoshi are still using the emu after today..

# Surprise! — KirbySS 2006-09-25 19:02

nocomment

# Guest 2006-09-25 19:28

"atleast yoshi gave us SOMETHING" "but atleast we have a psx emulator in our hands right?"

Oh yeah, that of course makes everything he did right. Well, why be angry at him because he ripped the code and called it his own. AS LONG AS WE HAVE THE PSX EMULATOR ! THAT"S ALL THAT'S IMPORTANT, yeah TO YOU ! Some of you have an understanding of right and wrong of a 12 year old kid. Why should we be thankful for anything if he even create. Do you think he can even continue or optimize the emulator if he didnt code it ? It's just going to seize to exist like all his other projects. He had his 5 mins of fame until truth had been revealed,and some of you are kissing his feet for the crap he does.

# @82 — zx-81 2006-09-25 20:10

@82: I think you missed something, i suggest you to read the GNU license one more time, and carefully ;) (http://www.gnu.org/copyleft/gpl.html)

Zx

# i worryed about this — lansingone 2006-09-25 20:47

that he had made it up that he made it all, this meens he will not make it run any faster, cuase he has no clue about making an emu. and we all know pacmanfan gave up on this a long time ago (i wish he didin't) cuase thares going to be a sony made one, but the problem is that the sony emu will need you to buy all the games and some may not be supported cuase thare not verry well known. so in the as i see it thare will "not" be a hombrew psone emu made now or ever, since are last hope was a fake

# #96 — Guest 2006-09-25 20:56

You are one of the few who seem to grasp the worst part of this.

Let's be honest. Most people really don't give a crap who made it, who finished it, who jerked off on your mom during a sleep over, as long as they have a PS1 emu, and if the code is stolen, and the thief isn't talented enough to add on to it any more than the tidbit he's already done, then this is pretty much the final release, and that makes it useless.

# BUt it is the first emulator that works! — Guest 2006-09-25 21:00

IF it is stolen(!) why is it the first emulator that actually WORKS? Why are the other emulators doesnt work?

# Short description: — Guest 2006-09-25 23:42

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# Short description: — Guest 2006-09-25 23:46

I have no problem if people make small revisions (like to the menu). Just for fun, I modified the port of FileAssistant for 2.80, but all I did was add sound, so the splash screen has My e-mail address and website URL, but also clearly states "Ported by FreePlay, Sound by BreakDecks."

If you are going to do a half-ass job, whether it's for attention, or you are just playing around with some code, don't hesitate to do it, but don't be an ***** about it.

# he should have released the source code — Guest 2006-09-26 00:09

Part of the license states:

''For example, if you distribute copies of such a program, whether gratis or for a fee, you must give the recipients all the rights that you have. You must make sure that they, too, receive or can get the source code. And you must show them these terms so they know their rights.''

therfore he has broken the terms of the license - simple.

# yoshiro, ypshiro? — Vato 2006-09-26 00:11

isnt that the same fella that put out that bogus downgrader about a year ago

# Guest 2006-09-26 00:18

@ 98, if he can steal people's work and make an NON working emu except for demos to work on PSP, I am sure he is able to steal codes to improve his emulator. I don't know much about his past. Releasing an EMU that work is always a good thing, and no one can take away from him for that. People alleged that he stole some codes. Its alpha guys, its not even a real release. Which alpha from emulators to actual world of warcraft games do you see every *****en person's credit and thank you notes on the program?

I personally think PACMAN is a *****en loser, why make this sound such a *****en big deal? YOSHI JUST RELEASED THE ALPHA. If he did steal your code, why not email him about adding you on the credit. NOW if he refused to release the source or give you credit, you have every right to start a news thread or a bash post or a law suit or whatever you want. But you don't NEED TO BE A RETARD and make it out in public for releasing an alpha. Such a small matter now being discussed and looked bad.

# Guest 2006-09-26 00:29

Again QJ.net, GIVE ME A break. You wrote "We here at QJ are totally neutral about this."

Can you be anymore oblivious? You just stated proof of Yoshi stealing codes without credit quoted from the original guy. You posted strings of credit and you say your neutral?

Neutral is when you have opinions from both sides, I only see one side in your news update sir.

" It seems that the PSX-P is nothing but code ripped off from PacManFan's PSPSONE emulator"

Does this line sound like reporting a news or actually STATING WHAT YOU THINK? STILL NEUTRAL?

Excuse my poor grammar and spelling =\

# change the title — Guest 2006-09-26 00:47

its misleading i read it because i thought sony had gotten mad and halted it, but i get this? ok u cant have liscencing issues A- the psx is compyrighted by sony, and they arent involved. unless pacman set up a copyright for his psx emulator wich he didnt then thers no liscence issue, and besides yea yoshi has stolen code before, but if he took it didnt credit it but still made it actually work more then why complain?

# Yoshihiro... — Guest 2006-09-26 00:51

...is a goddamn retard and anything from him should be ignored by all PSP news websites. Since this is the case as well, don't go expecting any better performance from this unless someone other than Yoshihiro makes the changes!

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# Guest 2006-09-26 01:09

#103 It's funny that people just don't get it.

Let's come back to your WOW example. Assume WOW would have been discontinued by Blizzard, Anet took the code changed the background color of the menu and releases the code as Guild Wars by Anet without any credit to Blizzard. He didn't steal code to improve his emulator, he stole the WHOLE EMULATOR. So you call Pacman a loser, well if it wasn't for him the emulator wouldn't even exist. I would do some research before you decide who the real loser is. Try checking on his downgrader and the donations he asked for. Afterwards he just stopped the project. Yoshi is just a *****ing lame scammer, and it's sad that he has supporters like you in the community.

# .. — Guest 2006-09-26 01:12

erm..this was obvious the second it was released????

# Flamefest... — Guest 2006-09-26 01:18

Just love it!!! Keep it coming!!!

# ;8 — Guest 2006-09-26 01:52

well this sucks ;(

# oh man — Guest 2006-09-26 02:18

... it kinda sucks finding stuff like this out... usually means hey community we found out he's a fake... time to wait all over again until it actually gets finished

# To Clear things Up. — Guest 2006-09-26 02:35

Hey everyone,

PacManFan here,

To set the record straight,

yes, I GAVE the source code to Yoshiro, although when I was conversing with him over IM, he never identified himself as Yoshiro, I found that out much later. He only identified himself as a "talented french coder". I don't recall what his IM name was, but it wasn't Yoshiro

The source code I gave him was fully capable or playing commercial roms, It has been capable of this almost from the start. I had commericial rom support disabled during my last alpha release because I just wanted to show off a few demos roms before I got the speed up to an acceptable range.

Yoshiro agreed that he would keep the PSPSOne project name, and obey by the terms of the GPL when he released.

Yoshiro need to make things right by releasing the source code to obey with the terms of the GPL.

-PMF

# Told you *****ing so! — Guest 2006-09-26 03:07

I *****ing posted this yesterday or the day before that i'm not sure, on the post about the tekken 3 video:

"19. » Yoshihiro...

Clearly most people that are on pspupdates here are new to the scene.

I will never, ever, trust yoshihiro again. And wouldn't want to give him ANY credit, whatsoever.

One day or another it'll come out he stole the code or something, just like EVERY project he has worked on.

He can't code, I'm not saying I can. But damn it he thinks he can, and gets all the *****ing credit.

He should be *****ing hanged.

As for the emulator, it'll never come farther than this, and yoshihiro will get some more paypal donations for the emulator, and then silently fade from the public sight.

Damn you, yoshihiro!"

damn bastard.

# Yoshihiro... — Guest 2006-09-26 03:14

http://www.wab.com/wab-psp/images/yoshihiro.jpg

BAN THE MOTHER*****ER

# Guest 2006-09-26 03:31

*****in *****

# Guest 2006-09-26 03:38

Man, as long as the thing works is all that matters. All these isiots who give a shyte who wrote it is insane. Lets not even talk about the fact that when they do get props its a self given screen name /rollseyes

in the words of Artie Lange: WaaAAaaaaA

# aaah... — Guest 2006-09-26 03:52

Classic PSP scene flaming : D havent seen that for a while. I can still remember the days there was still a Wab team Xp

# er.... — Guest 2006-09-26 03:57

why doesnt pacmanfan try to come to some agreement

(e.g:pacmanfan lets him use his source code if he is put in the credits or sumat)

However@ #1,#2,#3,#4 i dont think we should just jump to conclusions about yoshi copyin source code,if he releases the source code perhaps we may have to even apolligize to yoshi....

because as far as i can remember pspsone could only run a demo which moved too dam slow :S

# yoshiro, f*ck off — joshrulez2 2006-09-26 04:26

F*uck off Yoshiro stop runing the homebrew scene, first you make fake 1.52 downgrader videos, then you help to make this 2.0 'patcher' that was coded to brick, you copied mph's work on 2.0 downgrader and his method to load 2.0+ games on a 1.5, now you steal somebody's psx emulator and do absolute f*ck all to it, just leave the scene before you ruin it anymore.

# eh!! — Guest 2006-09-26 04:47

wtf is a playstation?

# Mathieulh 2006-09-26 05:39

"Hey everyone,

PacManFan here,

To set the record straight,

yes, I GAVE the source code to Yoshiro, although when I was conversing with him over IM"

Sure ! xD Yoshihiro doesn't use IM, he only uses msn and pacmanfan is NOT in his contact list. Now stop the crap, what to know what happened ? Fine:

Yoshi told me to contact pacmanfan through mail which I did in order to get his pspsx sources:

Here is the mail:

http://home.comcast.net/~shernandez1337/PSPSOne.zip

Good luck, I'll keep the file posted for the next 12 hours.

-PacManFan

It's no leak and he got approvals to use it. I gave him the sources, he looks at it and tried to use it, but it seems nothing could be used from those.

Everything from core to plugins wasn't usable.

Thus he had to recode everything from start using his own core (ported from pcsx) and plugins.

No original code from pspsx was used.

No yoshi doesn't have to release his sources for now and he wont because he doesn't want someone else to takeover the project while he is working on it.

If you think I am a liar I don't give a damn.

If you want to know if I am the real Mathieulh, just PM for confirmation.

I am fed up of people who think that *****ing yoshihiro is some kind of sports.

If you can't appreciate good developers, then screw you and don't use their releases.

End of story.

# erratum — Mathieulh 2006-09-26 05:46

my bad I meant pspsone, not pspsx

# yoshihiro — Guest 2006-09-26 05:49

awesome job !

what's your bank account ? I want to donate !

# Guest 2006-09-26 05:53

haha, kicking off about licensing for a a piece of software that in most cases will lead to piracy, move on get over it

# what's the point — pollux 2006-09-26 05:55

Coding a PSX emulator for PSP is *****en dumb because Sony will release an official one that works 100% perfect.

You guys should concentrate on improving the SNES, GBA, Amiga, ... emulators instead.

# Mathieulh: — FreePlay 2006-09-26 07:30

What the hell? He made a derivative of a GPL-licensed program. Yes, he DOES have to release the source, or the PCSX team can sue him.

# Also — FreePlay 2006-09-26 07:41

Straight from the "What to do if you see a possible violation" page:

If there seems to be a real violation, the next thing you need to do is record the details carefully:

* the precise name of the product

* the name of the person or organization distributing it

* email addresses, postal addresses and phone numbers for how to contact the distributor(s)

* the exact name of the package whose license is violated

* how the license was violated:

o Is the copyright notice of the copyright holder included?

o Is the source code completely missing?

o Does the written offer for source, if given, only give a website and/or FTP site where to download the source?

o Is there a copy of the license included in the distribution?

o Is some of the source available, but not all? If so, what parts are missing?

So, let's examine this, one at a time.

* Is the copyright notice of the copyright holder included?

No. It's not. There's no readme, no copyright notice - nothing.

* Is the source code completely missing?

Yes.

* Does the written offer for source, if given, only give a website and/or FTP site where to download the source?

There is no written offer for source. This is a violation in itself.

* Is there a copy of the license included in the distribution?

There sure isn't.

* Is some of the source available, but not all? If so, what parts are missing?

Everything.

# a — Guest 2006-09-26 08:04

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# PMF who cares?? — Guest 2006-09-26 08:07

Who cares ??? if it wasnt for yoshi this emulator would have been never released anyway so shut up!

# YOU ABSOLUTELY MUST OBEY THE GPL!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!! — Guest 2006-09-26 08:12

He ported code specifically from PCSX.

His emulator MUST, MUST, MUST, MUST, MUST, MUST, MUST, MUST, MUST, MUST, MUST, MUST, MUST, MUST, MUST, MUST, MUST, MUST, MUST, MUST, MUST, MUST, MUST, MUST, MUST, MUST, MUST, MUST, MUST, MUST, MUST also use the GPL. It has to.

Now that means he MUST release a copy of the GPL with EVERY SINGLE release even remotely using that code. Including any alpha or beta software. There is no copy of the GPL, and the source is not available. He is breaking international copyright law. Simple as that.

If he were sued today, he would lose and the source would be available. Simple as that. The law is the law, period. A license is a license and must be obeyed, period, and the GPL is the GPL, no matter who the person is, or what system it is for, be it a videogame or a window manager, it still must obey the GPL.

This does n ot, this is illegal, by definition.

-liquidtenmillio n

# mathieulh — Guest 2006-09-26 08:24

mathieulh...u are no better than the scum u support (i.e. yoshihiro). go back to the gamecube scene and stay there.

# Mathieulh 2006-09-26 09:16

Dude... Or shall I say ps2nfo scammer, your post doesn't even deserve an answer.

About the GPL licence, I have the sources myself, and I checked them a little, it seems the sources are divided in two parts, PCSX code untouched, mostly used for stuffs such as memory card support, and yoshi addons that is the only code based on the psp.

Both code are serparate and only a few changes have to be done to run psx-p from the PC side.

Thus the GPL licence only applies to the PCSX part which is allready available since the code in the sources is untouched.

Yoshi isn't breaking any copyright laws by not releasing these addon sources as far as I am aware of.

# Guest 2006-09-26 09:41

Huh? You can slap the source from PCSX, compile it then throw it into the PSP and have it automatically work?

Wow that's so awesome that no porting is required, lol!

# pacmanfan said..... — Guest 2006-09-26 09:48

pacmanfan said that all Yoshi changed was the menus in this ps1 emu....

lol, nice work Yoshi! you ass.

For all the idiots that support Yoshi, go find his sms emu he created. It was a friggin' disaster.. lmfao

# @Mathieulh — Guest 2006-09-26 10:04

>I am fed up of people who think that *****ing yoshihiro is some kind

>of sports.

Bwahahaha, that's the funniest sentence I have read in ages! I'm laughing at you and not with you though.

Btw, GPL holds up in court. You'll get your day :)

# yhosihisior si afc ukcining toooolol — Guest 2006-09-26 10:12

taht dritty yohsiro has disobeyyed tehla w!! THE ITNERANTIONAL CYPORIHGT LWA!! teh UNTIED NATIOSN shouldse nd an inertansional caolition to his huoase adn KCIK HIM NI TEHBA LLS!!1

that drirtyy THEIF has sullied teh naem fo the NITERNAITONAL COED of LAW!! he hsa psisesed no teh COSNITUTION, adn trod no myci vil lbririties! he wlil payfo rhis IMPROPRIETY!

# ha! — Guest 2006-09-26 10:21

im just going to say I TOLD YOU SO!!!

# yoshiro — Guest 2006-09-26 10:22

post your e-mail , I wanna send you many programs you can post as yours because I don't dare to get in trouble , even got the ps1 emulator from psp generations which runs at around 50% normal speed ( note: if you just put psp generation ps1 emulator on search programs of limewire it won't appear , after some investigation I found out what was it's file name , which seems like a code name , verry strange name. I can give you the file through e-mail or tell you whats the search name by promising you won't tell anyone , just don't mention m e-mail when ypu post it on a site ). Also I know many more homebrew in progressI have gotten through limewire but some I don't want anyone to have , ust can give you a few to create more debates and discussions on sites like these. Also if you get in trouble you cannot blame me , your responsability. Post your e-mail Yoshiro.

# @Mathieulh — Guest 2006-09-26 11:38

>If you can't appreciate good developers, then screw you and don't >use their releases.

be 110% assured, i'll never use anything released by yoshihiro

# bouffons! — Guest 2006-09-27 00:12

on voit tout de suite la bande de bouffons que vous etes mr Mathieulh et l'autre blaireau que j'ai meme pas envie de mentionner. vous faites vraiment pitié barrez vous de la scene psp franchement on le demande tous haut et fort

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# i coulda told u that when it came out — Guest 2006-10-07 08:21

lol thaaaats what ive been hearing so much about i havent got to use the product but i have checked the program its self i heard it was stoled i heard notification wasnt given to the respective parties and i heard it wasnt real it was just an iso detector i have had both products from pacman and yoshiro and could tell the very obious similarities well if pacman passed the torch so 2 speek then its not as bad but some notification of this should have been said in the initial release hope this doesnt stunt future developement.............bad thing about this is i know itll make h-b very contirversal and eventually make some future developements unaccesable by the public .......sad news

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