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PayPal Severs Support for ScummVM

Posted Sep 4, 2006 at 4:29PM EST by QJ Staff

Listed in: Homebrew Emulators, News, Emulators Tags: LucasArts, PayPal, psp homebrew emulators, ScummVM DS
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Sam and Max: Hit the Road


We all love our emulators, now don't we? So what would happen if, say, PayPal forced ScummVM to stop asking for donations and to take them (PayPal) out of ScummVM's sight site. Yes. It's sad news in the emulating world, folks. For those of you who don't know, ScummVM is a multiplatform emulator (even available in DS and PSP) that allows you to play certain LucasArts adventure games (like the above Sam and Max).

So now, how could we support emulator developers if we can't even forward donations? It happened a few days ago, actually. PayPal is severing ties with ScummVM with a response that states:

You have developed a game modulator that allows games produced and developed by multiple companies to be played on their non-designated hardware platforms. This act in itself violates the PayPal [Acceptable Use Policy] and we request that you remove PayPal from [your website].


There are many arguments surrounding this issue, including the fact that ScummVM is actually supported and sometimes even actively assisted by original game developers and studios.

Well, we're sure both side have their own reactions to this matter. And surely PayPal has a good reason for not supporting ScummVM anymore. Besides, don't worry. It's not the end of the world. ScummVM is currently looking for other alternatives to seek donation, and we're sure to hear word from them again. So, drop a line, and tell us what you think!



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# bummerGuest 2006-09-04 17:33
nocomment

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# stupid paypalGuest 2006-09-04 17:54
its the work of sony i say! jk i dont know sh1t

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# thats insaneGuest 2006-09-04 17:54
i cant understand this crap.... why would they give a flock.. unless a biig company liek $ony had something to say about this

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# Exophase 2006-09-04 17:58
This is really absurd. Some of us use PayPal for a lot more than just accepting donations and can't afford to have this nonsense threaten to shut down our accounts. I guess if they're just asking him to remove the donation link from his site that's one thing, but that's still really lame.... :|

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# ScummVM is not an emulator.Guest 2006-09-04 18:24
Get it right, editors.

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# aaronyu2 2006-09-04 18:33
we all know that paypal sucks

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# My godTooplex 2006-09-04 18:45
A:This news is 3 weeks old



#5 dont be an idiot it is an emulator how the hell do you think it plays certain Pc games on your psp,ps2,ds,poke t computer etc.... it emulators it you stupid idiot!

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# Guest 2006-09-04 19:27
Its amazing how any of this is paypals buisness. You would think they would just take their cut.

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# so. why not..Guest 2006-09-04 19:41
Just use Googles new paypal alternative..

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# Lots of alternativesGuest 2006-09-04 20:05
There are plenty of alternatives to Paypal, that are comparable in fees.



Paypal is horrible. They facilitate online fraud by consumers, and screw over the vendors.

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# Guest 2006-09-04 20:09
Paypal prostrates himself before the sony mafia.



Sony with its rootkits and lots of pursuits against the Internet users, is the worse than an industry parasite.



Boycott them

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# doubt!Guest 2006-09-04 20:44
I dont beleive sony is the one behind this. Paypal is its own organisation and makes their own rules. Its big enough to have its own agenda and "use policy". Besides sony would rather target the piracy of their own software rather then that of others...



Oh well of to play more GBA games on the PSP again...:)

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# Many reasons for thisGuest 2006-09-04 21:15
Everyone remembers that another company is coming out with a new Sam and Max game right?

They've obviously obtained the rights to Sam and Max as well so they're just rubbing out any perceived 'competition'.

Either that or some knee-jerk lawyers at paypal have been forced to actually DO SOME WORK and ScummVM was tossed into the pile of 'emulators we don't agree with'.

Or perhaps since Capcom, Midway, Activision, Nintendo, Square-Enix, AND Sony are now porting their older SNES/Mega Drive/Genesis/PSOne releases to both the PSP and Nintendo they want to rub out the emulator as we currently know it and this is the first salvo in the new economic war against emulation.

Because who the ***** in their right mind would buy a UMD filled with generic ports of SNES games when they can already play the original SNES games on the PSP as they were originally intended by the publishers?

Exactly. No one is going to buy that.

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# 123Guest 2006-09-04 22:35
another case of big business trying to rub out the little guy

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# NochexGuest 2006-09-04 23:42
Try NOCHEX guys. Same deal as Paypal, slightly more userfriendly

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# paypal is a jokeGuest 2006-09-05 00:17
I have been using paypal since its inception. what used to be innovative has now become a key channel for fraud. always use your credit card to fund paypal payments. I have had to get my citicard involved in more than just a few paypal transactions where paypal themselves say....oh you got screwed...well we cant help you...but then whenever I sell an 10$ item they are more than happy to take there $3 cut. its insane. There are other alternatives...paypal is not longer providing a service. you cand function on ebay without it...however for accepting dontations there are many other options as mentioned above. Go scummvm!

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# BullCacaGuest 2006-09-05 00:35
this is a complete load. ScummVM is one of those programs that occasionally brings a tear to the eye. playing through some of these old titles again is something i was convinced would never happen. the work they've done goes beyond the call of duty as far as gaming goes. with the stagnant and often sorry nature of current Adventure games, this program is the only hope for those wanting to re-experience those days of yesteryear.



i would assume at first that this was done as a result of LucasArts' back catalogue sales, but check their site...these titles are sold out. maybe Paypal screwin them isn't a big deal as other similar services exist, but I'm sure this will put a blot on their record and perhaps frighten other such services away from doing business with them.



a lousy way to start the day. maybe we wouldn't be so compelled to power up scummVM again and again if somebody, anybody would release an adventure title with the standards of the many emulated using this software. for now, the devoted fans will find ways to support the work being done to bring us back to those times when original stories sold units rather than half-assed attempts to translate originally well written japanese stories with god-awful american voice actors. (not saying this is always the case, but it often is)

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# BuyGuest 2006-09-05 00:53
That's soo bad. I mean, it's true that too many people are not paying for their games. I pay for my games and ScummVM was for me a way to play my favorite games on different hardware (like the PSP!), and they deserve credit (or else they may stop working on it :|). I wonder if making ScummVM is really illegal, I thought it was not :|. I say, stop being stupid and childish by pirating games, and things like that won't happen in the future.

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# pateheticGuest 2006-09-05 01:27
this is how pathetic the world has been getting lately instead of cracking down on something genuine and great close down torrent sites accepting donations through paypal that share illegal files or something ok i may have used them but still they know what there getting into this is an emulator for christ sake..

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# That's a shame...Guest 2006-09-05 02:40
I've used PayPal a lot. And it's not like they openly offer the original software without the consent of the designer for games like "Beneath a Steal Sky" or "Amazon Queen". I guess the only thing that I can think of is an image interest. Maybe they don't want to someday to be looked at as supporting emulators. And that , in itself, is just paranoia :P . It's getting to the point anymore that the manufacturer is getting the consumer rights while the actual consumer is taking whatever's leftover.....restrictions. I think they fail to see that if they didn't have anybody to give restrictions to, they'd all be penny-less and broke as we are.

This is one of the best things about this country, with one move ( whether it be boycotting a certain item nationwide like gas or food) we can make a difference, a change. People sometimes don't realize this, but think about it. If the whole US of good ole A one day decided " Hey, I don't think I like all these little petty restrictions you put on us, so we're just as one nation going to stop buying your stuff for a whole week" . Can you IMAGINE what would happen then? But, then again that's just hypothetical thinking.

For those who haven't watched it, I suggest watching V for Vendetta. That movie has one powerful message that I think everybody should take to heart.



But anyway, sad that these people won't be getting donations by pretty much everybody who has a savings account number:P, but hopefully they CAN receive some help, because they're making it possible to revive a classice genre of gaming that pretty much laid some foundation to gaming as we know it today. Good like to the ScummVM guys, keep up the good work :D

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# Paypal sucksDrachenflieger 2006-09-05 02:49
Paypal's service really isn't very good... as longs as it comes to just a simple transaction, sure, they do their job... But I've heard tons of horror stories from people on eBay about how they handle accounts and how they treat people's money... they freeze accounts without appearant reason and doesn't even wait for evidence or trials if they suspect some kind of foul play. There are better alternatives out there, believe me. Why not set up an account for donations directly through VISAs or Mastercards services for instance?

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# May be a trick would work?Guest 2006-09-05 03:33
How about a way to overcome that legal particularity, like, removing the link from the actual scummvm site and putting a link that redirects you to a new web site which's purpose is to ask for donations from anybody that wants to give some money away for nothing, for example.

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# mmm...Guest 2006-09-05 06:35
Hey, I got it !!



Paypal IS Scum



They are just pissed off because the name relate to the service they provide.



OK, I'm not serious but one thing is...



SCUMBAG !!!



Great work and lots of credit goes to ScummVM, thanks.



(***** you I won't do what you tell me)--Rage against the machine.

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# WTF!?!?!?!?!Guest 2006-09-05 07:21
Anyone that has a problem with this can go SUCK AN EGG!!!!!



Paypal provides a service and they have the RIGHT to refuse service to ANYONE!!!!



Do you own Paypal? No, so SHUT UP!



I hear a bunch of Boo Hoo about this and it sickens me. These are typical American responses and when it comes down to it they are all actually ANTI American!!!! NO ONE in this country has the RIGHT to demand service from anyone. If you don't like it then start YOUR OWN PAYPAL SERVICE!



So all you little tiny babies can go suck on some more eggs as there is NOTHING you can do about Paypal's decision.



To actually answer your main question:



"This is Bullshxx how can they do this?!?!?!?"

Because it's there RIGHT you morons!!!!!

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# yeah...Guest 2006-09-05 08:53
their right, yep, and is our right to be angry at them, is not like we set their company on fire or someting so YOU stfu, hey great work scummVM team, use another service.

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# WTF!?!?!?!?!Guest 2006-09-05 09:02
I never said anyone couldn't be upset with the rules. You can be upset all you want. But the facts ARE those ARE the rules.



I'm talking about those people above that are saying Paypal has no right to do this because they are 100% WRONG. Paypal has every right to refuse service.

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# LOLGuest 2006-09-05 10:49
Its not an emulator... jeezzzz.....

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# Guest 2006-09-05 17:29
ScummVM rocks. Paypal are mofos. nuff said.

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# Escape from...Guest 2006-09-06 09:11
if they get Escape from Monkey Island to work I will gladly give them some dosh for there work...

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# Guest 2006-09-07 05:32
Uh... This is against the law...

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode15/usc_sec_15_00000013----000-.html



Basicaly, you can not discriminate in providing your services based upon protecting from competition.

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# PayPal not supporting emulators???Guest 2006-09-09 04:46
PayPal IS actually supporting emulators, actually... i've seen their icon on LOADS of WoW pirated servers... they probably just got a complaint or something like that and they just sent an automated message.

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# You got it, PayPal facilitates consumer fraudGuest 2006-09-29 04:51
I've exactly this kind of experience, a client committed fraud and PayPal sided with him. That's why I from now on always add to my client contracts a clause about involving PayPal's claims department voids the contract and I get to keep all they paid me and I owe them nada.



PayPal sucks, but you have to use them, there's nothing else at the moment and I've looked at all the alternatives.

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