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Daedalus Shifty Beta 1

Posted Dec 1, 2006 at 6:12AM EST by QJ Staff

Listed in: Homebrew Emulators, Emulators Tags: Daedalus, N64, psp homebrew emulators, StrmnNrmn

Yeah, we hear everyone clamoring for N64 emulator for PSP">Daedalus' R9 release from StrmnNrmn and Wally's recent Spiff Up seemed to fill the unsettling N64 void. Operative word, of course, is "seemed". Because, face it, despite how we all love Wally's "spiffy," one can't help but wonder about Daedalus itself. Is Daedalus daed dead?

Here's to hoping that it isn't. funk_man was able to obtain Daedalus Shifty homebrew developer">Shifty Beta 1 from his friend in school: homebrew programmer Shifty. funk_man attests that the games he's played on it have definitely sped up. It's still not full speed, but he comments that it's faster than StrmnNrmn's Daedalus R8.

Here are some notes from Shifty:

only roms in .z64 format will run at high speed
all other rom files have some what slower speeds, but load textures better
some .z64 files have textures that don't load, like the water in Mario 64

As for Daedalus, StrmnNrmn better make an appearance soon before more and more people get restless. This Shifty Beta 1 release is to hoping that all that restlessness would subside (at least for now). Besides, it's got a speed-up. And we know how much all of you've commented that that's one of the most important things you're looking for.

Cheers to Shifty and shout outs to StrmnNrmn! Keep this emu alive!

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well i'd like to say...

I downloaded it yes.

Speed... about the same...

missing textures, missing objects....

what a great release.... *cough* crap *cough*

hey pspupdates.com... you should update the the news with

"Less than what it had before, same speed DOWNLOAD IMMIDIATELY"

i don't know i could really care less if this homebrew makes it to full speed.

BUT A QUALITY RELEASE WOULD ATLEAST BE NEWS WORTHY...

send all flames to:

forizzle.jizzle@gmail.com

ps:

no offence to pspupdates whatsoever, they are very well respected here.

# sort of — Guest 2006-12-01 10:01

I've tried THPS 2 and super mario 64 which both ran faster, the textures seemed unchanged except for super mario 64 where that camera-guy's eyes were gone (I'm not sure if they were there in R9 though)

# err — Threatened 2006-12-01 10:14

does ssb work?

# good but — Guest 2006-12-01 10:48

nice work but

Talk is Cheap

Show us the Code !

# this is awesome — Guest 2006-12-01 10:54

earthworm jim 3D runs at 95% speed. its incredible. now i want conker!

# we want... — Guest 2006-12-01 10:58

PSPMONKEY...and the Monkey64.....bring it back on...see what happens when you flame the wrong guy? You get f@cked in the ass....if PsPmonkey did not get flame in the first place, we already have a close to full emu.....now...that is being said..STOP COMPLAINING GEEZE...it's freeware..You guys can't do any better..so let the developers do..flaming like bunch of crybabies demanding for cookies..get a life..and before you flame me..:

F

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...S U C K E R Sssssssssssssss ssss

# yay — Guest 2006-12-01 11:04

i completely agree

# I AGREE WITH THE FIRST REPLY — Guest 2006-12-01 11:09

I agree wit the first reply. I mean it's the friggin school year he must have alot ta do. I was workin on a game until school started now i barley get to work on it. Most of his updates also came out during the summer.

# . — Guest 2006-12-01 12:23

lol just a bunch of DS fangirls or kiddies with an upgraded psp who CANNOT be apart of this wonderfull community in full.

Little releases like this make it here so that you, the player, gets FREE emulation on your tiny wittle psp. be it a perfect emulator, or a WAY early beta, doesnt matter. how many "betas" do we play, and still enjoy? as SOME games run decent enough to have fun.

Trust me, you CAN run full windows 95 on your psp...the N64 emulator WILL be complete one day. untill then, keep my ass up to date and entertained by a tweaked emu.

The rest of you who disagree.....shut your dam/n mouth and go play your DS. (which btw, CANNOT emulate the N64 like the PSP can! lol hahahahah hardy har har har hack! cough! her!)

onehitgamer.com *****ez.

# once again STFU — Guest 2006-12-01 12:30

To all you *****s who don't think this emulator is good shut the ***** up. Don't start dissing something when you don't know how it works why don't you design you're emulator. Oh and just so you know YOU'RE EMULATING A *****ING N64 ON A HANDHELD DEVICE this is not an easy feat.

keep up the great work everyone working on this emu

# your — Guest 2006-12-01 12:58

your lucky its free ;)

# Wow! — Guest 2006-12-01 13:08

Paper Mario runs full speed!

# . — Guest 2006-12-01 13:27

The ROM select menu runs FULL SPEED!!!

# About OoT... — Guest 2006-12-01 13:33

Hey, does anybody know if OoT runs faster using Daedelus Shifty Beta 1?

# GPL IT ! — Guest 2006-12-01 13:40

i was not flamming

But if source would be released more and more dev could help to develop it.

So this is no complaint about "freeware", but i want it to come free as a free beer AND free as a free speech

So please GPL the code and let other hacker help with this yet awesome homebrew piece of work.

Comme join us and share the software

You'll be free hacker , be freeeeeeeeee

When we will be enough free hacker

you will through away those dirty license for ever ....

# yea it does a little... — Guest 2006-12-01 13:41

actually it does run a little faster! i was so excited!! but i want conker!

# omg — Guest 2006-12-01 15:09

I din't find increase in the roms speed but guess what! The rom selection emu runs full speed! I knew this day will come! LOL! anyways it's still nice playing mario 64 in slow motion, pure matrix style, 15 more seconds to go before I grap that bombcoin in front of me!

This pure craptastic emulator runs slower than STRMN NRMN's grandma! This is so "Your base are belong to us"! Flame me *****es, cause I know that if this coders really worked hard they would have done this already like PSDONKEY! Did you all know I know psmonkey in real life? He studies at MIT and he has full scholarship till his master degree! He left because he said he hated the homebrew scene since many din't know ***** about homebrew and entered and that he hated coding noobs that din't compare to him! And even though his emulator took him a few months (around 6) he has it working at around 95-98% full speed with sound *****es!

# Uhh... — Guest 2006-12-01 15:35

"As for Daedalus, StrmnNrmn better make an appearance soon before more and more people get restless. "

Uh, no QJ. You`re wrong. StrmnNrmn doesn`t have to do *****. What he codes on his spare time and releases to us is up to him, we just wait for it. Don`t be ungrateful!

# my take — PSmonkey 2006-12-01 16:52

I am unsure of this build. I am seeing reports that it really does not boost anything. It's posible the author did have good intensions to fix flaws but it's posibly he did not realise his changes make little to no impact. Yet still it's nice to see continued suport for strmnnrmn's work.

Also, Hi tenshu.

to FLAME_ME_*****! ,

You confused the names there. You listed me as going to MIT (guess you ment Donkey). I never went to MIT or university (i'm a self taught coder).

I made amens with Donkey but I still have yet to see anything creditable regarding his emu. I do hope that he will in the future maybe release the source or a simple beta (even locked to a hb game) to show off his work. If not its a total waste.

# Umm.... — Guest 2006-12-01 16:57

*sigh* Just curious, guys... If you're flaming each and every release of Dae that has come out... would you rather not have a release, and just have to wait a year or two for a single, full release? I mean, if all that was posted on this site was "N64 Emulator in the works," what would your reactions be? Hurry up and release it? Or, "Nono, PLEASE wait before you release it to us. Instead, we would much rather see blurry, ten second video clips to whet our appetite. I don't want it now."

You know... Just saying... =X

((Oh, and I won't be popping back in here, so flaming is useless... Sorry.))

Anyways, here's to hoping that Jet Force Gemini works! ^^

And Strmn, thanks for all of your hard work!!

... *I* appreciate it... >.

# K HOLD ON — Guest 2006-12-01 17:27

WAIT JUST A MINUTE!!!

I have worked basically every minute I got in order to think of an idea, that half of u ppl wouldn't understant

d. It is in the middle fo the school year, I am still in high school, and don't have access to a computer everywhere i go, especially one where it can be compiled for testing

Now, a little info, for all of you ppl who think that all I did was rip Wally and StrmnNrmn.

1) It has not been completed enough to actually be judged. This was just a quick build, to test whether or not it could actually be used with one of my new ideas.

2)My new idea was to not play around with the framerate of the actual emulator, but only with the actual roms.

3)My intended way of doing so, was to create a nice small, compact function, that would be called to load the entire rom into memory, dynamically edit the rom upon loading to basically say, 'go faster', run this through the entire rom, unload the rom, except for the part that was changed, then resume with the actual emulation. This function is only to be called once, after you choose which rom to load. In the end, this would not save and modifications made to the actual rom upon loading.

4) I am sorry that I had failed to explain this to funkman.

5) Now just to let you know, I have changed a rom(SuperMario6 4) in a rom modifier, and booted it up on good ol' Daedalus Wally to test it. It worked, it had a smoother, faster moving feel to the game, running at what looks to be "almost full speed", ALTHOUGH THE ACTUAL FRAMERATE MY NOT CHANGE

Now you may be thinking that this is similar to frameskip, but in fact it isn't. It is somewhat hard to understand the logic of how the human eye may see somthing one way, then they see it another way.

6)All I have done with the unoffical release that was given to funkman, was insert a function in the file 'daedalus\Source \Interface\RomD B

that is called upon loading a rom

7)Once again, I am sorry. This was just a one day thing so far, so when I get my dynamic rom speed modifier working for daedalus, you can probably expect to see what funkman had originally said, that I will get it to run at full speed.

If I have time I might work on some sort of interface so ppl can play around with a few of the settings.

Currently i am working on the rom modifyer, so expect some major speed increase within the next month or so. Until then

EMAIL ME, don't include hate mail, i alread read enough of that here.

steven_polley@h otmail.com

shifty_

PS the name 'shifty' was already taken...Bastard

# look above to see this — Guest 2006-12-01 18:17

it should be daedalus/source/interface/romDB.cpp

# gpl it — Guest 2006-12-02 00:27

thanks for your work

Really apreciate it

But Talke is cheap release the code

# Great — Guest 2006-12-02 02:13

Awesome, I'm really looking forward to it

# ok — Guest 2006-12-02 03:55

when do you think you will have mario 64 at almost full speed and rlease? it will be awesome

# K HOLD ON mother *****ers — Guest 2006-12-02 04:46

I just got alot of mail from people that don't understand the homebrew comunity and start to blame me for no soeed increas I just want them to know that i dont even masturbate because of the work that i'm puting on this.

SO ***** OFF M O T HE R F U KE R

# Awesome — Guest 2006-12-02 04:56

This is the best release so far.paper mario works almost full speed!!

# game — Guest 2006-12-02 06:24

does resident evil one or 2 work in this release?

# paper mario — Guest 2006-12-02 07:00

doesnt get past creating a game.

how does it work?!?

# hahaha i took ur name — Guest 2006-12-02 07:32

im the bloody bastard that took the name u wanted haahahahahahaha h

# im lovin paper mario — Guest 2006-12-02 09:41

PAPER MARIO IS FULL SPEED

and only a few missing textures!

# ya but — Guest 2006-12-02 10:20

ya but u cant get past creating a game

# take it easy guys — Guest 2006-12-02 11:32

sending hatemail to Shifty_? you should be happy he even decided to release a beta instead of making you wait for another month! c'mon, i bet only 1 in 50 of you even know how to code, so f*** off! I don't code, but I do realize the amount of work Shifty_ has put into this! If you think you can do better, then by all means, go ahead and make your own emulator

I apologize to Shifty_ for giving out false information. And I would like to thank all of you who tried different games and actually used different file extensions to see which games you could get to run faster.

Shifty_, i bet most of us are looking forward to your next release

# no need to waste your time — PSmonkey 2006-12-02 14:59

http://exophase.devzero.co.uk/shifty.log

read the log, no need to waste your time here folks.

# questions — Guest 2006-12-02 17:33

to help ease the weight on Shifty_'s inbox, I am now taking questions as well.

my email is funkman_666@hot mail.com

# THIS ISN'T ME — shifty__ 2006-12-02 17:50

Just so everyone knows, this is not actually me, above there, it is someone who had the same name as me, before i registered here, sorry for any vulgar, or inappropriate topics, that may be listed on this thread, with my name on it

# log — Guest 2006-12-02 18:30

the log is fake. exophase just wants to destroy this emulator for some reason

# the log — PSmonkey 2006-12-03 05:46

exophase is a known and trusted developer. Much as I am (I did Monkey64). Shifty has beyond showed a lack of technical understanding in what he is doing. I have no reason to dout exophase over the log.

This has nothing to do with daedalus and purely doing with someone making wild claims to take credit from strmnnrmn who has done a huge amount of work on this emu.

# Shifty is a LIAR and a FAKE. — Exophase 2006-12-03 13:30

Undeniable proof that "Daedalus Shifty" is ONE HUNDRED PERCENT to Daedalus Wally 1.0. If you don't believe me go download them for yourself. Shify has done NOTHING, and after talking to him for two nights where he has done nothing but spout gibberish and try to insult me I'm just tired of it all. He probably doesn't even know how to compile Daedalus, much less improve it.

PSPU staff, if you're reading this, I really hope you take down this imposter's download.

Exophase@CATACL YST ~

$ md5sum /c/daedalus_wally/EBOOT.PBP

bea0d0d774a4742 e906b57110e557b07 */c/daedalus_wally/EBOOT.PBP

Exophase@CATACL YST ~

$ md5sum /c/daedalus_shifty /EBOOT.PBP

bea0d0d774a4742 e906b57110e557b07 */c/daedalus_shifty /EBOOT.PBP

# well thankx but needs some work — Guest 2006-12-03 18:29

i got v 13 er sumthin i found a link a while ago. this aint quite up to it its just a spiff up of a spiff up lol well work on sound and save games on auto save menu load games. speed aint my issue. but regardless im just glad somneones workin on it. by the way deadalus isnt right but thats an easy fix

# I agree with Reply — shifty__ 2006-12-04 13:51

I agree with the second reply from GuitarGod1134, he probably is just on FW 3.xx I guess you will be waiting awhile for Fanjita to release an Eloader that can do FW3.xx, ur loss, cause he prolly never will!!

# You may have to wait awhile — shifty__ 2006-12-04 14:03

You may have to wait for Wally's next release for this one, because, I would rather try to get speed going, before I start working on bugs that may occur during emulation. I have tried Paper Mario, and the same thing has happened. maybe, you should ask xD how he got it working.

# Work together! — Guest 2006-12-04 21:22

Thank You for finally releasing another update..I think i speak for everyone when i say id love to see this emu run at full speed.I know that may be a long ways away..but if all the developers were to work together and share their opinions with one another..full speed wouldnt be such a longshot.I love the work you guys are doing..i couldnt be any more grateful..thank you

# haha — Guest 2006-12-06 12:08

I can suck Shifty's ***** everyday! 1st post *****!

# NOT PSMONKEY — shifty__ 2006-12-06 14:44

The above comment was not made be the homebrew coder, 'PSmonkey' as you can see, the above a few messages is a comment left by 'PSmonkey' who is a registered user. However the above comment is made by some anonomous person who says that they are 'psmonkey' (unregistered), so just to straighten things out, PSmonkey would never say anything that vulgar, or disrespectful...

# help — Guest 2006-12-07 05:46

how do u install on fw 1.50 wo % folder

# z64 — Guest 2006-12-10 06:24

does somebody know the difference between v64 and z64 ??????

# Formats — Guest 2006-12-12 04:39

They are just two different types of formats for N64 ROMs.

# How u tell if this is fake or not! — Guest 2006-12-15 12:57

Try playing games like Dark Rift, or Chamelon twist 2. or any other games that didn't work that well if anything in them has changed then i guess it means this is not a fake.

# question — Guest 2006-12-16 05:34

how do i save game in this build?

# R9! — Guest 2006-12-16 09:25

PLEASE STRMNRMN RELEASE A GOOD N64 EMU IVE BEEN WAITING!!!!!!!! !!!!

# adaodaokd — Guest 2006-12-16 20:13

PLEASE anybody can tell me how do i save game in this build?

# how gay — Guest 2006-12-20 17:30

ive tried all these stupid n64 emulators and they all blow

i wish they would at least just make one game, one solid game work

instead of having a bunch of *****ed up games

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