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Team M33 officially says 'Bye Bye!' to 1.50 kernel |
Listed in: Homebrew Development Tags: Dark AleX, psp homebrews
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Over on Dark AleX's website, it seems we're about to give a fond farewell to the kernel that's been a part of the homebrew scene for the longest time: the 1.50 kernel. Alek, one of the admins of dark-alex.org, posted a recent entry detailing the means by which one could adapt what they know into the 3.xx kernel era. In his entry, he writes,
Due to the almost sure probability to abandon 1.50 kernel on future releases 'cause of better compatibility and security on 3.xx/4.xx, some new devs were asking me how to port their knowledges to 3.xx kernel, and of course also their own apps.
He advises them to visit this particular ps2dev entry by CpuWhiz (external link) in the hopes of porting what they've already done to 3.xx functionality. Furthermore, he explains,
But anyway, does this change to superior kernels is necessary? Indeed it is. It allows a greater range of thinks (sic) that can be done, plus solving tons of problems on 1.5 kernels. Therefore, having the oportunity (sic) to use this ones with the actual cfws, why not to do so? Open to debate.
It's an exciting time for the homebrew scene, seeing as there's new technology coming out and people are learning to adapt to the new ways of doing things. While most people will certainly miss what can be called "the good old days," we can certainly look forward to what homebrewers have in store for us using the newer kernels.
Thanks to Gilberto Jimenez for the tip!
Via Alek's Blog @ dark-alex.org
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great though, no reason to have a phat anymore besides the ir port
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yeah da is telling everyone to dump their phat and buy a slim
theyre saying goodbye to the kernal not the phat
also i do believe that the slim still has trouble with some HB, were as the phat deosnt have as many problems on the exact same kernal
anyway they say goodbye to 1.5
and i say goodbye to DA CFW
seriously unless all devs release all previous apps for the new kernal, or we wont have much of a scene
either that or release the source
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that can't be true
what about psp fats?
they are still supporting the old kernel!
wanna have the kernel and not miss old homebrew eg to access flash
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I might just go slim but my hands just too freaking big :|
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This will help make it easy for everybody.
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The slim can only run 1.5 kernel homebrew using time machine and even then, there is a chance for incompatability
The phat can run both 1.5 and 3.x/4.x homebrew with no issues whatsoever.
So dropping the 1.5 benefits the Slims by forcing future homebrew to be 100% Slim-compatible, and has no effect on the phat, that can run 3.x homebrew anyways.
The only effect this has is making (Very) old 1.5 homebrew incompatible with newer CFW. And most older homebrew has already been ported to 3.x, especially the popular programs. The only effect is if you're running some obscure little known legacy homebrew that hasn't been ported to 3.x. In which case, you can probably find another (more recent) 3.x homebrew that does the exact same thing.
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Of course, the ELoader does need further development in order to boost its compatibility, so perhaps those who are still fond of the 1.50 kernal can collaborate and tinker with it a bit in order to iron out the kinks and defects. That will lessen the pain of losing the 1.50 kernal and keep people from complaining about it.
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people have already mentioned alternative ways to getting those apps to work.
and it DOES HURT THEM... because you can't support something by just dumping it in... you have to program for it and bug test it. it's a lot of time and effort.
i can understand that some apps are popular, but if you're updating those apps and/or creating new ones, why force people to use 1.50 compatibility, when as a dev, you can allow higher firmware compatibility? which allows for more possibilities, since there will be features you no longer have to mimic, and the new firmwares give you access to newer things that 1.50 doesn't.
in my opinion, i think people that lock into older "versions" are poor programmers, period. no one takes that crap on windows/linux/mac based apps... why take it here?
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you must hate using diagonal directions while playing games. my ears arent on my lap either. (always wondered why they pointed away from my face.
dont forget if your emulator doesnt run its the authors fault not the psp slim's...
thanks m33!
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Hope 1.5 will be coded into future firmwares without need for a kernel.
As far as I know pspVlc player is the only app for live tv streaming from your tv card.
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1.5 is useless.
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And at last some clarity for the developers, they'll have to make one version only.
Besides all that I really don't see why so many people are clinging to the 1.50 kernel or even 1.50 FW. Move on people. Its just useless old nostalgia, get over it!
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Smells like ownage. (and better CFWs)
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i agree that we can run most emulator homebrews on 3.xx kernel but i must say that remaining 1.5 kernel devs should also update to the newer better kernel to reach a wider audience.
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Want to move diagonally? The game probably supports the analog stick for that. I'll admit that I mostly just use my PSP to play emulators of games from my youth, but diagonal movement has yet to be an issue for me in any game.
Ears not on your lap? They're not on your stomach either. My PSP is loud as is - I wish there was an extra volume level between off and the lowest (especially when running SNES emus) - I'm kind of glad the speakers are where they are. But, if I wanted it to sound better or louder, I'd just plug in the headphones.
Skype? I've got a cell phone with better features, and my company foots the bill.
TV output? I have a PS3, Wii, 360, and HTPC attached to my 55" TV, why in the world would I want to look at the PSP on it?
Infrared support? Why would I wan... oh wait, I love that feature, and it's only on the phat.
So, the way many people use their PSP, the slim's still a downgrade at this point. Now, if they ever come out with a model with a HD in the place of the UMD and enough memory to run a real Linux distro, we'll talk upgrade.
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Most of the 1.5's have issues with the soft power-off anyway, so it's more convenient to run the 3.x version.
-J
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We still have time machine for the slims of course, but remember that the slims were engineered and designed to run with a firmware no lower than 2.8 or so.. better check it, perhaps it's already owned by sony right out of the box...
Lets hope we're not going to end up looking back on this time and say "well we thought we could do it, but then we lost it all and had to do something else, if only we had kept it, we had all moved on to our new systems, but now its ruined.."
sony wants to fight piracy, they've been doing their research on cfw and it's users, and they're selling a lot of slims.
imagine if they are harnessing the hacking scene to sell units, and send a massive attack via a firmware/wi-fi future event they had planned, that captures the majority of it's users and then charges a fee? or else just fry your system. you get the point
you DID recall the black sunday kill, didn't you?
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