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PSP Summer Homebrew Competition: The way things were... |
Listed in: Homebrew Development, Site News Tags: homebrew competition, psp homebrews
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Wow... apparently our attempt to make everyone happy has failed miserably. Maybe we were out of our minds, maybe we were completely wrong, maybe the whole thought of adjusting the rules to compensate for some confusing wording was based in insanity. But that aside, realize that we DO listen to our users, and the majority of you seem to think we've gone complete farbot.
So, in what is surely an even more confusing move, everyone should disregard the earlier message about the coding competition. We do have some very nice entries from developers who DID follow the rules - and rules are rules. We apologize to those who may have been confused by the rules as stated and released their programs elsewhere, but unfortunately those programs will need to be disqualified.
So - game on! Everyone who sent in a qualifying entry by last Sunday will be judged (if there are more than 10 entries that qualify) and the public polls will open on August 27th! Our thanks to EVERYONE who submitted, whether you qualified or not. It is all of you who keep the PSP Homebrew scene alive and well. Congrats!
However, the one guideline we will cheat on is that all entrants will be given Developer status on our forums which means Premium Membership... surely no one has a problem with that little smudge of the rules. ;)
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Now you'll most likely get all the games from the NeoFlash competition with some slight changes just so that they can enter here too. I thought you wanted original games.
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And to #7, the Splash screen was part of the rules from the very beginning.
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Sounds rather clear to me.
I'm just a bit disappointed as I wanted to show my game and see what everyone thought. But I guess I can improve it a bit more before the deadline.
Can whoever that recieves the submission emails please start answering them just so you know that they got there? I got really confused when I sent my submission and got nothing back. Just a small confirmation would be nice.
And by the way, is it ok to release screenshots of the game before the competition ends?
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2. Will Accept Versions: We will accept updated versions of existing programs, unlike the original contest rules which stated it must be a brand new program. Developers who have already sent in their submissions may send in updated versions as well.
4. Unreleased: The program must be unreleased to the public at the time of judging! It's no fun announcing a winner that is already "old news" because people have been playing it already!
These two rules clearly contradict each other...
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WHy did you decide its OK to have new versions of unreleased programs! UGH
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Oh, and #10, here's your answer: Already released programs cannot enter, but new versions of a released program can enter. Rule #4 is saying that that version won't be allowed into the contest. Okay, I hope that cleared things up for ya.
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^Doody.
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1st: psp w/ modchip installed + 4gig card
2nd: psp w/ 2gig card
3rd: psp acessory pack ( everything from face plates to 2gig card)
then your see people throwing things ur way... as of know i think ur prizes are a joke to people that spend alot of their time to code something nice for your site to get traffic.... my opinion of course:)
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I worked long and late hours to have the game ready on time and now after the closing date QJ move the goal posts.
I really thought this competition had the edge because it encouraged people to code original games instead of updating old versions. That, to my mind, is better for the homebrew scene because it means New Release not just more updates.
"2 Will Accept Versions: We will accept updated versions of existing programs, unlike the original contest rules which stated it must be a brand new program. Developers who have already sent in their submissions may send in updated versions as well."
This changes the entire nature of the competition, AFTER THE CLOSING DATE. It's a complete farce. Poor form QJ. Basically you have dis-advantaged the people who followed your original rules.
So now we are looking at a two comps where 75% of the entires are going to be almost identical. What's the point........
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http://www.dcemu.co.uk/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=33162
i 100% agree w\^
visitor's respect for qj is diminishing faster and faster...
pretty sad there are more comments on the topic elsewhere than on qj's own front page..
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And whatever mistakes you made this time, take them as a lession learned.........
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Our sole and only concern in this matter was to make it as fair as possible for ALL the devs - those who understood and followed the rules, and those who misunderstood and didn\'t.
After all the complaining from people who have NO BUSINESS complaining (read: non-devs) the only thing we\'ve learned is to not be so compassionate and stop trying to make everyone happy.
This decision was not made on a whim, and well recognized developers such as Fanjita and PSMonkey were asked for their advice on the matter, and they approved of this solution as being the fairest alternative.
The truth of the matter is that no matter what decision we make people are going to be pissed. If we go ahead as planned, the dozen developers who submitted to us AND released their programs elsewhere (be it on NeoFlash, our forums, another forums, etc) will be pissed. If we don\'t disqualify them, the people who DID follow the rules will be pissed.
There is no way to make everyone happy - so in our minds the best alternative was to provide an ACTUAL competition, not a contest between 3-5 programs which were all the qualified after it is said and done. There\'s no competition in that, nor any fun.
All I can say is that any \"versions\" that are submitted will be judged on the progress made since their last version, and extra points will be awarded to completely new programs who submitted their properly. After that, it will be narrowed down to the judge\'s top 10 and then it\'s in YOUR hands.
So really, all this griping is moot. YOU are doing to decide who wins anyways. If you don\'t think a program should win or even in the compo at all, don\'t vote for it - it\'s as simple as that.
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I think this is being naive, the rules were plenty clear and I'd say most people who didn't follow them where chancing their arm. It was easy enough to enter both comps. because all you risked was being disqualified from this one. You have done nothing for those who followed the rules.
"The truth of the matter is that no matter what decision we make people are going to be pissed. If we go ahead as planned, the dozen+ developers who submitted to us AND released their programs elsewhere (be it on NeoFlash, our forums, another forums, etc) will be pissed. If we don't disqualify them, the people who DID follow the rules will be pissed."
So instead of disqualifying those who chanced their arm and didn't follow the rules, you have decided to piss of the people who did follow the rules. You should judge this comp as advertised and next time think more about whether the closing date clashes and what criteria you judge on.
"After that, it will be narrowed down to the judge's top 10 and then it's in YOUR hands"
This is a coup out. You are supposed to set the tone of the comp. And it started out looking like a really good vehicle for some original homebrew. Now because you did not get the response you wanted you change the rules. Moving the deadline is bad enough, but changing the entire nature of the comp. is terrible. It is easy for you to throw you hands up in the air and say look guys this is for your benefit, but how is running another comp. that will have all the same entries as the NEO comp. going to benefit anybody ?
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... and it\'s \"cop out\"... sorry, that was driving me nuts! LOL!
We concede, all is as it was. Hopefully the second change of our minds doesn\'t cause even more discontent.
All I can say is that we were wrong, but it was for all the right reasons.
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If it hadnt have been changed I would have possibly withdraw my entry
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I think this is probably the most fair decision.
Good luck to all the entrants! I look forward to future contests :)
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There's no reason for you to be such a douche and critisize him for trying to make this competition more successful and exciting. If you made something, then you're probably one of the ones who followed the rules judging by the fanatical tone you have of "If you didn't follow the rules than too bad". This new update obviously shows that they're actually agreeing with you and aren't going to accept anything that would be disqualified as the original rules stood, so you having this attitude is both pointless and retarded.
Congrats to all the participants that weren't disqualified.
Except for Coup out. No vote for you.
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Are you that desperate for hits that you feel screwing devs of quality apps is a good idea?
You must have had harsh childhoods or somthing. Rules exist to maintain reason, reasons dont exist to prop up useless rules.
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by Sepheroth
If you'd been following the thread closely you'd have known that my post was made BEFORE they went back to the original rules.
I assume that forums are here so people can express opinions and that's what I did. I realised that Jake most likely changed the rules with the best intentions, but that doesn't mean I had to agree with him.
From what I can see a lot of people thought, like me, that he shouldn't have changed the rules. And as far as Jake is concerned he gets my thumbs up, he read what people wrote and changed things to suit what seems to be the majority opinion.
Don't know how that makes me a 'douche' or 'retard'?
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You saying that that you completely disagree and then go on to say that the rules should be upheld strictly as they were from the start, after he had said that he would do exactly that (Which is to disqualify everyone who didn't fulfill the original rules) is what prompted me to calll you retarded.
But aside from that, I have nothing to say about your new post because I agree with you.
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If you read #35 you will see that my original post was made BEFORE HE CHANGED THE RULES BACK. This thread started out with Jake saying he'd changed things, people posted, me included, saying we didn't agree and after that he changed the page to say that he'd changed things back,and left all the posts as they were. So let me say this one more time so you understand I made post 21 BEFORE HE CHANGED THE RULES BACK. Got it ?
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