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mathieulh: That exploit wasn't yours to release, Freeplay! |
Listed in: Homebrew Development, News Tags: Exploit, Fanjita, FreePlay, Mathieulh, psp homebrews
Looks like not all is well in the kingdom of PSP homebrew. And it involves no less than two of the loudest voices currently in the scene: mathieulh and Freeplay.Over at our forums, mathieulh calls out Freeplay for supposedly leaking the Mercury exploit, when the code of said exploit wasn't his to begin with. According to mathieulh, Freeplay has been warned not to release it, but that he went on head and did just that anyway. In doing so, he has therefore abused Fanjita's given trust, who originally gave Freeplay the access to his svn server.
The leaked exploit being referred to here would be the Mercury exploit released by FreePlay just yesterday. Oh how fast sweet things go sour.
Here, let me quote mathieulh on the matter:
Freeplay has been warned not to leak the Mercury exploit because the code simply isn't his, he abused fanjita's trust when fanjita gave freeplay an access to his svn server and freeplay tried every possible url variations until he found something. That something was the prometheus svn which had various exploits including the mercury one, all coded and ready for use. Basically Freeplay stole the exploit...
As a proof that I am not lying to you, or making this up, I will be now providing along this post the original mercury exploit and sources as they were in the original svn (after removing .svn folders for obvious reasons). Trust me, it saddens me to have to resort in doing so, unfortunately I do have no choice considering Freeplay leaked the game exploit to begin with...
And provide them, he did. There's been quite an exchange that's followed as the day unfolded, so why don't you head to the Forums to check out this particular thread. It's linked below.
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i really didn't care about freeplay he just showboated a exploit that was a proof of concept but couldnt do anything else
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I'm not putting anyone down by that, I'm a techno nerd. This is just some funny drama.
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I really think the PSP DEVs need to grow up. If they don't want to make CFW that lets ISOs run then go find something else to do as thats what the people want.
If you have all these exploits and don't release them then why find them in the first place?
If you have all these extra stuff, homebrew, CFW, exploits, hacks, HENs, etc and it you don't intend on releasing it then STFU as we don't care what you have. Either release it or why even bothering making it in the first place?
A video of anything that will never be released is in the same class as a fake video. We don't care for it at all.
If Math wants to have a ***** about FP releasing the exploit that was patched then fine, its useless now anyway even without FP releasing it as they patched it in OFW620 anyway so Math is really having a ***** for no real reason.
So, FP released a exploit that doesn't work anymore... Boo friggin hoo...
Either release it or STFU.
I've said this many times and I will keep saying it. If you don't want to release it then why are you bothering wasting your time doing it in the first place?
For the people that have heard what I was doing here is an update. I quit. I have stopped doing what I was working on as I wasn't going to release it so why should I even bother continue with it? I live up to what I say. I wont release it so I wont bother working in it anymore.
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Either rlease it or STFU?
They were going to release sooner or later. We don't give a crap what you do matter of fact I never even heard of you.
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... to have it blocked from your home
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Firmware 6.20 came first before the actual release. It already patched the exploit. For PSPGo users (all OFW, natch), updating Firmware is mandatory if they wish to actually get games, unlike the case with older PSPs. So there would really be no way for other PSPGo users to get the game anyways, but those who already had the game (and had 6.10 or lower) could still use the exploit (which never led anywhere anyways).
The issue here is not so much that Sony reacts to Freeplay's leak by patching stuff, but that Freeplay apparently betrayed the trust of Fanjita by ever releasing it after he said he wouldn't.
So can it.
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He clearly says in video "This is not something I've discovered myself"
lmao @ mathieulh twitter:
Freeplay is leaker and a stealer.
1) He didn't leak any *****ing thing, he showed just working exploit, nothing more or less.
2) He didn't steal anything
[drama]"it's like he came around and took my exploit so I don't have it anymore b/c he stole it"[/drama] zomfg ...
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also the exploit couldnt do anything besides hello world so whats the big fuss about?
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Everything is breaking apart....
I think the best thing we can do at the moment is a COMPLETE restart...
You know back to the roots. I remember the times when PSp hackig was a fun thing to do. Where everybody helped each other, but now it's just a scene of a**holes, whiners, attention Wh*rs and kids who think they're cool.
Dark_AleX is also gone, for which I not even mad, he has a private life, and the scene has become ungrateful anyway.
I'm somehow glad that't I'm no active member anymore. My PSP-1000 broke 4 months ago, And I'm not planning a get a new one. No good games coming, PSP scene is screwed, why buy a PSP at the moment?
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if i knew how to code for the PSP i would love to help but unfortunately i only know how to code in java :/
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Developers vs Sony
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Then
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Dark_AleX vs GENyUS
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Now
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Mathieulh vs Freeplay
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Future
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Developers vs PSP Owners
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if you read the forums there is proof that freeplay really is a lier... the exploit may have been patched but the exploit and the work that went into it was not done by freeplay... Really this makes him no differnt to team MAC
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later.
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You said: "Either release it or why even bothering making it in the first place?"
But look at your comment on MaxConsole: "If you want a video I can do that but remember I will NEVER release anything now. It'll be all internal releases from now on." - Source: http://www.maxconsole.net/forums/showthread.php?p+1189395#post1189395
Ring any bells? that's not the first time you've stated that "you're working on something, but you won't release it" - So far you've contributed nothing, your opinion of developers within this scene is hypocritical and skewed in weird directions.
I can't believe i keep encountering your drivel all over the interwebs!
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Humans vs Robots
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If 1% of the people who said "I'd love to help" actually acted instead of talking, the PSP Go would have been hacked 10 times already.
But like many others, you believe that "other" people will do it for you and you just have to wait. Well guess what? There's currently in the world less than a dozen people with the skills to hack a PSP. Is that because they are gods? No, it's because one day, they decided to stop waiting for "someone else" to do it, and started digging.
Anybody could do it with a PSP and the internet, it's mostly a matter of motivation and free time.
I'm fed up with people who say "I don't have the knowledge", when these days google provides basically all the knowledge you could wish for.
I'm not saying it's easy. Just that "I dont know how to do it" is the excuse of lazy people. Nothing personal haxor.
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I'm all for and like it when people release stuff, regardless of what use it might have to me or others, but abusing the trust of others is a low thing to do.
Especially since that's about all that holds something like homebrew together, along with having fun, unlike official stuff where you get paid/monetary gain.
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I haven't seen anything from fanjita himself so I'm only gonna assume mathieulh is just a piss ant bastard who likes to start *****.
Even if he said he wouldn't release, there is no copyright on homebrew except in special cases like No Gravity.
If fanjita really didn't want it released then he shouldn't have made it available, simple as that.
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I don't think anyone "snitched". Sony must've accessed the PSN logs with the MAC address from the video and get a list of everything downloaded to that PSP Go. Then it was easy to scan the (very few I'm guessing) downloaded games and determine which one was explotable.
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E is for ENeMa
V is for VaPiD
E is for ExCrEtIoN
L is for LaMeNtAbLe
O is for OrIfIcE
P is for PlOnKeR
E is for ExPiReD
R is for ReTaRdEd
It Sucks Being Your Trash
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See FreePlay for the Details
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These guys who are helping you to hack your PSP don't have to release exploits to help you do anything with your psp, they do it because they want to. And some of you are acting like ungrateful pricks. EVERYBODY FAUKS UP IN LIFE, GROW THE FAUK UP PPL.
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1. There is, in fact, copyright on homebrew. Whoever wrote it, owns it, no arguments. The average homebrew author can't afford to sue over it, but were you ever to, say, release a mod of an GPL'd PSP homebrew app w/o providing the source and the author took it upon himself to sue you, he'd win. Just because you don't have signed code doesn't mean you don't have copyright to something you wrote. That's kind of how copyright law WORKS.
2. You have a *****ing funny idea as to what constitutes "Making Available". If someone invites you to their home, you don't have the legal right to their *****ing silverware because they "made it available" by letting you in.
I don't really care to read into this story, but someone was given a smidgen of trust and they apparently abused the living ***** out of it.
End of discussion.
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In the end the person that found this exploit did so a LONG while back and never did crap with it its his fault. If you don't want it put to the public don't upload it. I swear script kiddys are getting stupider by the year.
Uplink out~
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Thats kinda the main reason why Sony is trying to stop our advances on the CFW side dumbass. Letting people ISO load without trying to slow them down kinda hurts their game developer pitches.
"If you have all these exploits and don't release them then why find them in the first place?"
Its called hope for the goddamn troops. If you heard of the WWII the British soldiers were told they would own Germany and be back by tea and this help a crapload.
"If you have all these extra stuff, homebrew, CFW, exploits, hacks, HENs, etc and it you don't intend on releasing it then STFU as we don't care what you have. Either release it or why even bothering making it in the first place?"
Well some of us care who want to know that something is being done for us to be able to play homebrew on secure PSP's.
"A video of anything that will never be released is in the same class as a fake video. We don't care for it at all."
"If Math wants to have a ***** about FP releasing the exploit that was patched then fine, its useless now anyway even without FP releasing it as they patched it in OFW620 anyway so Math is really having a ***** for no real reason."
"So, FP released a exploit that doesn't work anymore... Boo friggin hoo..."
LOL! The only reason it got patched was that a group of Japanese fellows at Sony sat behind a computer and analyzed the vid FreePlay released and discovered that a game called Mercury has a similar menu or they just check FP's PSN account and checked what he bought recently. Not very hard if your running the company that people are trying to undermine using your own stuff. Just follow the paper trail.
"Either release it or STFU.
I've said this many times and I will keep saying it. If you don't want to release it then why are you bothering wasting your time doing it in the first place?"
To give hope to retards like you who doesn't respect a scene. Dude if you don't like it, move to another homebrew enabled console. e.g NDS
"For the people that have heard what I was doing here is an update. I quit. I have stopped doing what I was working on as I wasn't going to release it so why should I even bother continue with it? I live up to what I say. I wont release it so I wont bother working in it anymore."
Finally, WHO THE *BEEP* CARES!
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even i you win, you're still retarded.
just relax and get yourself a beer
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now its just math and freeplays thing to settle, all opinions have been said.
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why the ***** do people have arguments here??? this isnt teh *****ing Forum!!..
if you want to B^tch, go to the forum and have a classic Flame WAR!!! '
***** ***** UFCK ***** UFCK!!!
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Also, funny enough, when you're talking about things that are illegal to begin with (Exploits to circumvent actual legal firmware protections) you have even less room to talk.
Your facts arent straight, not in the least. DMCA and other such US laws dont legally recognize GPL/GNU as an enforceable piece of binding legislation. Implied agreement is not, in the least, legally binding.
tl;dr el oh el you're retarded.
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ummm GPL has stood up in a court of Law, and has stood well a simple Wiki would tell you that. Do you really think companies like Novell and RHEL would use it if it wasn't? . So maybe some facts would be nice to post. I really don't care one way or the other who's exploit it is to be honest, I just want to make sure that people know their facts before they say stuff. And stealing is wrong.
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And suck me 20 like your mum did
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1: whenever you asked basically a question to him, he would respond back and call you a stupid *****.
2: He always wanted to be right
3: Basically, he just ruined a good exploit.
So he deserved what he got, and decided to delete all his friends/subscribers/videos. And take his face off his channel, but you can't blame him, being humiliated and all...
But anyways, kind of seems legit, but can easily be faked " new to be released six point zero zero (6.00) cfw tomorrow" goto this youtube video for more info, BTW unsure if it will work on the psp go. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v+7ZmgezEYiTI
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I've decided to be an adult and move on with my life, rather than arguing with children.
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Its giving me a bad vibe.
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I don't see this ending very well for the community, at all.
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Teenage girl invites friend to house.
Friend reads the girls diary.
Then tells everyone about 1 thing in it she was keeping from everyone.
B***H fight ensues.
Yes it might have been the wrong thing to do BUT
1)it has already happened now any there is nothing stupid name calling or fighting will do to make that better.
2)why are random non involved people fighting over this more than the actual people involved.
Standard QJ 2 group flame wars c**p buy the same old users, using the same floored logic.
some people need to grow up, shut up and move on.
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... men ;P
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Well you can't expect me to hold the internet with the same respect as someone else's house.
And I'm pretty sure you don't otherwise you wouldn't be here talking smack, unless you believe it is okay to talk crap as a guest to QJ's house.
Get a better metaphor.
@Teivin / ironicmind13
I don't think a GPL would hold up in court with this program in question.
Which by the way the original sources didn't say anything about any GPL, nor any protection for that matter.
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hahahahahahahah aha
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On the other hand. The PSP scene will actually advance now. For that I am happy. Sure it will be a VERY drama filled progression, but at least people can have something to build on now.
Hate to say it but it serves him right for bragging his ass off. It's called karma folks.
Yes he had the right to not release it (and it being leaked is *****ty) but the moment he started showing off and saying nya nya nya look what I have that you don't have, we could have all seen this coming.
Rule of thumb: if you're gonna be a d1ck, cover your @ss. Or someone may be giving you THEIR d1ck right up YOUR @ss. Now next time either don't be a ***** and instead just say NOTHING when you have something that could help others that you want for yourself, or just f*cking release it.
That's all I got. Hope the drama subsides and we can use this exploit the way it should have been used when he first created it. Which is for the better of the WHOLE scene.
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