Daedalus R12 Update: Dynarec problem in Super Smash Bros identified

Posted Jun 10, 2007 at 10:33AM by Karl B. Listed in: Homebrew Development, Homebrew Emulators, Emulators Tags: Daedalus, N64, Smash Bros., StrmnNrmn
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Daedalus R12 - Image 1


Daedalus, an N64 emulator.">StrmnNrmn has posted a short Daedalus update on his blog today. While there's no new release just yet, this is still important as it addresses the dynarec issue found in Super Smash Bros.

According to StrmnNrmn, the source of the dynarec problem has finally been identified. It had taken longer than expected, but it's been isolated and after a little experimentation StrmnNrmn has come up with a temporary workaround. Here's a snip of StrmnNrmn's post:

With the fix in place SSB is running at around 30-40fps in game on the PSP, which is very exciting.

Now that I've identified the problem my next job is to come up with a permanent, robust solution to help fix similar problems in other roms. I also want to add some improved checks in the debug build to help spot other situations where this problem arises.


It seems Daedalus will be getting even better when R12 comes out. Be sure to keep checking back here on QJ.NET for the latest updates.

Thanks to 420tongboker420 and dylstermanster for the tip!


 
 
 

Comments [refresh]

by fasfa - 2007-06-10 05:42
» asfasf

first

by Captain Planet Summoner - 2007-06-10 05:44
» Let's Summon Captain Planet!

EARTH!

by timmy0to0l - 2007-06-10 05:49
» NICE

30-40 fps?! if its actually true, thats incredible news.

by Reever - 2007-06-10 05:49
» WOW!

30-40 FPS on a PSP n64 emulator? OMG!!!!

by timmy0to0l - 2007-06-10 05:49
» ...

WIND!!!

by timmy0to0l - 2007-06-10 05:52
» FIRST

30-40 fps?! if its actually true, thats incredible news.

by milo22 - 2007-06-10 06:26
» GO Planet!

FIRE!

by IDEA - 2007-06-10 06:31
» gotta an idea here

I really cannot wait for this to be released. But, i also have other requests. How about making a "ad-hoc" mode for people to play w/ each other. This would make it so much more fun rather than playing SSB against the computer. This is BY FAR my favorite homebrew app. and i think that this little feature would make it even more enjoyable. Also, when StrmnNrmn gets goldeneye running faster, that would be really fun with friends and/or relatives. But before he gets multiplayer, i would rather see an increase in compatibility and speed. Then add those little extras.

by neo peo - 2007-06-10 06:34
» holy *****

i,m so freaken happy, this means it could be playabel. !!!!!! :)

by ZIGGIN - 2007-06-10 06:53
» AHH

WATER!

by nightshade15 - 2007-06-10 06:56
» GO Planet!

WIND!

by Dude - 2007-06-10 07:01
» ...

WIND!

by moviefan - 2007-06-10 07:05
» Comment on something people want a lot.

Ok not just to take a shot at Idea above me but people, some games are just now reaching a playable level with few or minor visual glitches. An you want Adhoc or infustructure play. Let him get most games, if not all of them running at lets say a steady 40 frames before he even considers putting online play in. That would just take up more proccesing power and ram. Slowing the games down unless he finds a way around this. So drop the subject for now, he has probably seen this idea a hundred times. But he has been making a lot of progress i could see the posibility of limited netwprking capabilities for some games, by November or december at the rate he has been going. At the latest the first 4 months of next year sometime. Or he may never put it into the emu because he doesnt know how (chances are he does). If this happens someone will mod it an post it on the net with his capabilitie.

by kefka12 - 2007-06-10 07:06
» thats crazy

30-40fps?! nice! Qj i really hope this isnt a typo on your part!

by Cpt Planet - 2007-06-10 07:08
» StrmnNrmn

StrmnNrmn.. hes a hero... gonna bring pollution DOWN TO ZERO!

by assman - 2007-06-10 07:09
» Ahh

FART!

by WATER - 2007-06-10 07:40
» HEART!

GOOOOOOOOOO PLANET

by WOW - 2007-06-10 07:49
» .................

this seems very exciting, i agree that if he can implement multiplayer of some sort, this could turn to be the best, if not already the best homebrew app in psp history. Oh man, just thinkin about online goldeneye or perfect dark , or even mario kart is makin me shake. LMAO we'll b playin online mario kart just like the DS people!! hahahahah great work!

by dave - 2007-06-10 08:07
» good

yeah thats cool but we -20fps away.

by asdasdasd - 2007-06-10 08:13
» Rofl

thats funny but u idiots forgot water.

by HEART! - 2007-06-10 08:14
» HEART!

HEART!

by nunya_business - 2007-06-10 08:26
» very good news to hear

SSB is one of my favorite games ever. If I can play it on a handheld at full speed, I will be one happy gamer. Thank you StrmnNrmn!

by Strangler - 2007-06-10 08:29
» re

30-40 fps? I really doubt that. Mario 64 only runs at 18 in many parts of the game.

by uff - 2007-06-10 08:30
» Dust?

You'll find that most games only require 30FPS.

(which is brilliant enough).



Try converting a movie/game video to

25FPS and you'll see that there isn't much difference

between 25FPS and 60FPS..



If the game did run at full speed though [60FPS],

then it should cut down on loading times or lag.

by Captain Planet - 2007-06-10 08:51
» thanks

Thank you guys for summoning me for this important news report. Unfortunately that's 5$'s each for all the air you just wasted.

by Ify - 2007-06-10 09:10
» Nope

No, the N64 is 50 FPS max but most games even on the N64 ran between 30-40 fps. As long as the game is over 24 fps which is a motion picture it will be playable +) Hopefully it will be about 24 fps with sound

by Madblaster6 - 2007-06-10 09:14
» Let's try again don't mess up now children

Earth.......

Fire.......

Wind....

Water..

Heart.

Gooooooooo Planet



By your powers combined i am captin PLANET.



Captin Planet he's our hero. Going to take polution down to zero................................................................................................................................

by LOZ - 2007-06-10 09:18
» What about Zelda?

How is that game looking for the new release?

by neo peo - 2007-06-10 09:38
» spiff?

ok u know a coupel releases back u released the spiff update, well when r12 comes out will the spiff make r12 work even better? or could i just put r12 and with or with out the spiff update will it work the same????

by - - 2007-06-10 09:58
» --

nice keep up the good work :)

by fuzzy - 2007-06-10 10:02
» Status now?

What's the status on Daedalus now? I haven't kept up with it. Are there any games that are playable right now? I consider playable to be 25 FPS without sound, unless it's a game that requires sound for you to know what to do.

by G.C - 2007-06-10 10:04
» .......

Just Give Us The Fuukin Release FFS!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!

by Gino D. - 2007-06-10 10:09
» 30-40fps

yep. that is not a typo. direct quote, actually. exciting huh?! wooohoooo!

by nunya_business - 2007-06-10 10:30
» @Strangler

Mario 64 is more graphically intensive than Smash. For example, look closely at SSB's characters; they have very simple geometry compared to the N64 titles they come from. I doubt that their levels have nearly as many polygons as Mario's levels either. Additionally, you'll notice that SSB uses many two-dimensional sprites. All of this amounts to far less strain on the RAM and processing power.



Besides, I doubt StrmnNrmn, the emulator's sole programmer, would lie!

by hehr - 2007-06-10 10:33
» FIRE

POOP

by daedalus, where are you? - 2007-06-10 10:55
» R12 ftw!!!

QJ is teh suxxors when it comes to delivering NEWS.

...

Nobody gives a damn about dynarecs or strnmnmnmn, just tell us when the emulator will be released! geez... OMG Dark_AleX farted! Front page on QJ!!! 5000 jumps! come on, get real.

by NdR23 - 2007-06-10 11:03
» StrmnNrmn

THX ALOT Bro for putting in the time!Keep it up!

by ........ - 2007-06-10 11:10
» retard

it water then wind dum@$$$$$

by sigh - 2007-06-10 12:07
» sigh

lfy is correct. plus with the motion blur on the psp screen 30 frames would be more then needed.

by ... - 2007-06-10 12:35
» ...

DAX FARTED!?!?!? OMG!!! I WILL INHALE DEEPLY UNTIL I SMELL IT!!!

by pokemon lover - 2007-06-10 14:10
» pokemon snap !!!!

does this mean i can play Pokemon SNAP!!! o SNAP!!!!



sit still damit i wanna take a picture of u.....



oh *****!!!



wat the ***** was that!!!!



-it appears a pikachu just got shot....



POACHERS!!!



ahhhhhh weree gonna die....



i lived a good life



-dont kill urself.... for the love of god...



hey, is that captain planet?



-reagan smash!!!!



-reagan sleepy.....



-zzZZZzzzZZZ



my adventure of pokemon SNAP!

============

the end...







nah im kidding but then again lots of pple loved and still love the pokemon games..... pokemon stadium might be fun again if u could take all ur pokemon from the saves on the gameboy and use them.... and the minigames were kinda fun....



good times, good times..... too bad im too old to be playin that ***** during class.....



whats even sadder is pple in my senior class r playin the new *****ing pokemon on their DS , havin a mini LAN party seriously WTF???

by ..........`. - 2007-06-10 14:44
» ..............

for water dum*****s

by .. - 2007-06-10 14:48
» ..

ur the actual dumbass considering that wind is actually before water..........sad tho i know that i know that

by hakit - 2007-06-10 15:49
» .

yaaaaaaay!! dax farts!!!!!!



damn you people are immature.



and if you dont like what the story is about then dont *****ing read it!

by hakit - 2007-06-10 15:51
» .

^

what that guy said

by neo peo - 2007-06-10 16:13
» i loled

when i read the comment above me i loled

by ........... - 2007-06-10 16:15
» i messed up

sorry Madblaster6 and (..) you were right my mistake http://youtube.com/watch?v+UH2WzvIS28Q+mode+related+search+

by ... - 2007-06-10 16:46
» ..

try posting this in strmnnrmn's blog, mabye he'll actually read it

by ... - 2007-06-10 16:50
» ...

i beleve you mean http://youtube.com/watch?v+OHj7VDd8lw0

by PaNNaP - 2007-06-10 17:37
» Agreed

I would love to play pokemon snap on the go, perfect, jump in snap some shots of meowth banging jessie behind the snorlax, memories indeed. great fun. id also like to play conkers bad fur day, and pilot wings, and blast corps, and stadium would be like the new pokemon games from ds, but with *****en 3D models...etc etc etc, shutting up.



StrmnNrmn fantastic work guy!

by kjz[ - 2007-06-10 18:53
» uni

I WANNA PLAY SUPERMAN 64 its pwns n00bs

by a guy - 2007-06-10 19:37
» ah yea

your teh noob for playing superman 11!!111721!

by Too old - 2007-06-10 20:39
» I can't stand people like you...

If you're too old for video games then go outside and get to work, and get off the internet forever, because you're certainly too old for that too.

by Moo - 2007-06-10 20:48
» lawl

WATER!



When your powers combine.. I AM CAPTAINNNN PLANET!!!! *80s green hairstyle*

by Maart - 2007-06-10 22:38
» Paper mario

i'm hoping a fix for paper mario will be next on the list.



I realy would like to play this on the go

by Psilocybeing - 2007-06-10 22:57
» Woop

Nice job, as always StrmnNrmn. Thanks! :)

by jchaike - 2007-06-10 23:21
» idk...

about you guys...but i dont mid getting news like this. its something to look foward too. if qj doesnt release these articles, there will be people *****ing "WHERES THE DAMN EMULATOR. GAWDDD." but this is great news hopefully R12 will be out soon =D

by bc - 2007-06-11 00:31
» i don't think so

mario64 plays fairly well with sound on r11 and frameskips. It may means 30 FPS WITH SOUND! He should hurry and release it soon.

by Jin - 2007-06-11 00:33
» ...

Once again Strangler got pwned. Lmao. Always.

by Templar - 2007-06-11 00:51
» sfd

Jeeeez guys! Get a life, this is interesting news, if you're so interested in using the product, then take the time to read fix releases, or any other notes written by the developer about the product. Stop being selfish and grow up, Strmn Nrmn has obviously been working hard to find the bug and fix it for all of you ungrateful little people, the least you could do is be thankful, or atleast curtious.

by Andy - Norway - 2007-06-11 00:58
» Great!

Keep up the great work!!!



Greetings from Norway

by not a pokemon lover - 2007-06-11 02:31
» wow harsh?

dude i was jokin and dude... when ur a senior u still have to time to play games.... and i dont play consoles just my psp and pc/laptop... i dont play pokemon much anymore even tho a lot of pple in my senior class like to... i dont... just cant get into it again



i just play mario just like old times.... btw every1 uses internet.... i DO work.... when ur a senior u cant get a full time job so stfu!!!





btw i said im too old to be playin pokemon i mean its been over 10 yrs and no one in senior class should be playing it except for humor.... if i were to play it again its to reminisce (sp?) or to laugh at it



no matter wat age i am , i think im old enough to play video games.... but pokemon.... its pretty elementary and well... cant see myself playin it....



hint: dont take every1 serious.....

by god0fgod - 2007-06-11 03:49
» WOOO HOO

Can't wait for this.

by wappa - 2007-06-11 04:24
» yoshi

GIVE US YOSHI STORY!!!!!!!

by dorkdork777 - 2007-06-11 05:44
» ...

Yeah! That's what we were all waiting for from the release of Monkey64! SSB is one of my all-time faves as well - so this will be awesome!

by dorkdork777 - 2007-06-11 05:46
» ...

That would be awesome, but as the guy two above you said, he'll need to get those games running at a steady 30-40 fps before he gets any sort of wireless in.

by Bizzy - 2007-06-11 05:59
» LOL

"Nobody gives a damn about dynarecs or strnmnmnmn, just tell us when the emulator will be released! geez... OMG Dark_AleX farted! Front page on QJ!!! 5000 jumps! come on, get real."



speak for yourself, i find these updates very intresting. espically the technical updates. Some people have an understanding of what the man is saying, not everyone is as dumb as you :)

by IDEA - 2007-06-11 07:32
» got* an idea here

its me again....and if i had a blogspot name or gmail adress or w/e u need i would post on his blog...if anyone wants to post this idea that would be awesome...btw keep replying... i rele want to see what others think of this idea; i dont want to beg if im the only one who rele wants this...post ur opinion here!!

by cody - 2007-06-11 08:16
» great news

good news



now all we need is a ds emulator so i could play pokemon diamond lol

by z_tahir1 - 2007-06-11 10:02
» you guys are douche bags

I'd rather get atleast this much of an update to keep my spirits up regarding the release, rather then wait FOREVER wtihout any indication that its still being worked on, and eventually forget interest on it...



Way to go Strmn, i can guarentee like 99% of these n00bs don't know what the hell your even talking about..they are just talking out of their asses, like they even contribute...



*****s.

by jimbo - 2007-06-11 11:51
» good

good news keep up the good work my nukkas

by deeznuts - 2007-06-11 12:30
» nah

***** pokemon. we need real games.

Not these pieces of ***** that you call games.

by wappa - 2007-06-11 12:44
» YOSHI

GIVE US YOSHI'S STORY!!!!!!!!!

by wtf.... - 2007-06-11 12:49
» N64

Why can't StrmnNrmn just use a bios form a n64 version this would be a whole lot easier just like the GBA version for psp it would run smooth but i guess he has his reasons for not trying?

by John - 2007-06-11 15:25
» When!!

when can we get this update?

by osbal42 - 2007-06-14 02:37
» s

nice trmnNrmn!! ;)

by mrkay - 2007-06-26 15:23
» how do I run it?

I copied the Daedalus and Daedalus% folders into game and click on it but it doesn't run I need help please

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