SodR: "I got ripped off" regarding ThemePSP v2 |
Somebody edited a respected developer's application and released it as his own without permission or credit. Here's what happened:
- A few days ago we saw ThemePSP v2 in the QJ forums. We thought "cool, ThemePSP has been updated" and one of us decided to write about it. It was supposed to be a straightforward update: "version X has been updated into version Y," and many of you made happy comments and tried the new version out.
- ThemePSP v2 was released by "M_Roc" - but the ThemePSP project is a project by SodR (the latest official release was v1.2, pictured above). When the article came out, some people wondered if the project been passed on to somebody else or if SodR change nickname or if SodR had brought somebody else on board for the project (Urza the Tyrant over at the QJ forums said something similar in SodR's thread).
- Kristine's article was linked to an article about SodR's ThemePSP article (which had "SodR" on it) and included the ThemePSP tag (which has "SodR" written all over that); M_Roc released the homebrew with a changelog that closely resembled that of SodR's ThemePSP v1.2 ("New nicer GUI!"). From the look of things, I don't think anybody suspected theft.
Regarding "ThemePSP v2" (I got ripped off)
A while ago I released an app called ThemePSP which made you able to flash your own "Themes" to the PSP (font, gameboot, background etc.) and the last version was 1.2. The program got actually got quite popular and there was a theme creating thread here runned by Urza The Tyrant (props to you!). Since I thought noone should rip my program I didn't implent the pictures into the eboot so anyone could change them and the font without no programming skills at all.
Everything was fine until I checked pspu today. Someone called "M_Roc" had just changed the pictures, edited the readme file (He keept the same file, just edited my name away) and released it under the name ThemePSP v2. There is something I just want to set clear at this point:
* I did not aprove anyone to use the name ThemePSP, nither the code it's based on or edit the pictures or the readme.
* I did not aprove M_Roc (or any other person for that matter) to use my program.
Yepp, it looks like I got ripped of. He didn't even mind to change the name of the app, he just released it as v2.
Another word to the blogger here on qj, Kristine C , who I'll quote
Originally Posted by Kristine C
M_Roc has just released an update to his app in the form of ThemePSP v2, so those of you who have been wanting to give your PSP a facelift might want to give this little 'brew a try. According to the maker of this app, here are the following changes in this version:
Time to check up your sources...
I was never one of the really great devs on the PSP scene so I never really thought someone would rip me off, but obviously there are such persons here, and that is why I have decided to not release anything more (I acctually got a working Hexic clone on my harddrive which I'll never finsh...). So thanks for all the good times I have had with my PSP and all the great persons that do exist. (And fcuk you M_roc who destroyed my day).
Regards, SodR
btw. I might check in a last time on the pspu forum to release the sources to my apps, there might be other persons who what to rip me off.
SodR, please don't let your disappointment over this remove you from the homebrew community. Your application has gotten quite popular, and there are many of us who want to see a new (official) version.
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Comments
first post!!!
I am selling a PSP with a broken LCD...
i knew there was something like this happening cuz m_roc sounded as if didn't know much about the psp on the comments on psp-hacks.com
Don't get me wrong, I don't like seeing devs leave the homebrew scene. Nor do I have anything but respect for those who release their programs - after all, all you can ask for is for someone to program things he finds useful, and share his work, if he's feeling generous. It's entirely someones choice if they don't want to release their works. But.. Come on! Look at how many devs are leaving the scene for silly reasons. Some guy impersonates you and tries to steal your work.. Okay, so report him, have a QJ post telling him off, then go on. It's the same with a few other devs that quit because a couple people insulted their programs. It's almost like they're just looking for a public reason to announce quitting, so as to make a big stir and feel important, because occasional thanks from the few people that actually like their programs aren't cutting it for their ego anymore. Again, don't confuse this with various other devs like Dark_AleX, etc who have real reasons for even considering leaving the scene. Nor should anyone take this the wrong way - they do have a right to quit. But they really don't need to make such a big deal of it. People are leaving over silly reasons that could be addressed in a different way, such as exposing code theft, or not giving out their email, etc. Shame about not releasing the Hexic clone though - that'd be suh-weet.
you act like you actually make a difference and that it's a big deal that your pissant program was released without your name on it do you get mad that the burgers you flip don't go out with your name on them too? stop trying to make your e-***** bigger and relax
You have no clue what you're talking about.
Dude...chillax...this guy has every right to be pissed. He kind of DID make a difference. People used his program. People liked it. Someone flat out stole it. He got rightfully angry. Now please, go take some anti-depressants, and don't post abusive comments.
What is it with all you *****s out there(e.g.darkcyde)? It is truly pathetic what you do. If someone stole something that you had worked on hard and then changed the name on it so it looked like yours would or would you not be PO'ed? Granted, leaving because of it is a bit "drama queen" though...
Wow, I know exactly who M_Roc is. He is a douche-***** spammer who will rip other people's work and spam your forums. Watch out for this kid, he was a REALLY bad spammer on CheatSync who cost ADePSP TONS of money. He is also know as MZ_8691, and trust me, all he is is TROUBLE. If he tries to join the forum ban him right away, he's bad news...
This guy has no right to be pissed like pirates theyre everywhere what can you do jsut shut up abut it and QJ is jsut FVCKED they can't think of more useful things to post onto the news than something as worthless as this these should be left and ranted in forums to anyone that disagrees with me FVCK YOU too other than that i agree with haha by darkcyde (Unregistered) - 4 hours ago just leave these kind of posts in a place they should be rather than official front page news and keep releasing programs and codes of what ever nature it doesnt matter who ripps or who writes them as long as its something useful and worth installing onto the psp thats what we all worry about. about leaving the scene as a theme of focus he can leave if he wants i dont see $ony giving whilst we have all these h4x0r$ out there so i dont have any need to believe coders should leave over such a small issue. the end SYNCMANAGER~
WOAH! I saw this thread and can't believe what I read!! the world famous SodR is leaving the scene :( after all he has done for it! and to go out like this while on top of the PSP world and with such a firm grasp of the english language! all sarcasm aside dont you think you're being a bit overdramatic? like we're all supposed to cry for you and beg you to stay on the scene?? it's not like a firmware downgrader you made was ripped off, it was a simple little app that did some minor cosmetic changes that x-flash does just as well or better. i completely agree that it sucks you were ripped off and i sympathize, i'm a musician that has had my stuff hijacked too, but you talk like you're giving up on making all our psps warp through time and space when all that happened was some a$shat put his name on your dinky little app.
I wasnt aware that he had released the source for Theme PSP. So technically M_Roc did rip him off. because there was no source released for him to work off.
i like poop sandwiches
I can't believe the lack of support you have given SodR about this... Maybe us developers should decide to stop giving you free stuff and charge for it in future as you clearly don't deserve it...
I mean, I can tyhink of a few people who'd buy LDK
If your willing to let mz help you with a project whether it be on a PSP or PC, hes going to screw you over in the end. He did it with me and http://www.pspcube.com. He did it to fido and gamefan forums (now known as) http://www.gta-addic.com/forums, and hes done it to cheatsync forums http://www.cheatsync.net/forum. I have his "real" contact info if anyone wants to enquire about any of this. e-mail: m1.4@hotmail.com MSN Messenger: m1.4@hotmail.com
Second post!!!
if you charged for an app like themepsp you'd see the scene die faster than an SNL castmember... i mean really, who would honestly pay more than a dime for a program like that?? I could see myself paying for a downgrader or devhook but wouldn't that be completely opposite of what the scene is supposedly about? and how would that make you better than $ony? all it would do is cause even more piracy and fraud as people interested in an app find new ways of getting it, causing devs to come up with new security measures creating the vicious cycle that already goes on between homebrew devs and $ony/M$/Preteendo. there's nothing you can do to stop app hijacking, and what happened is exactly what should; the dumba$s is exposed for what he is. Besides we all know who the real pros on the scene are anyway.
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