Team M33 teaser: PSP Slim CFW 3.60 coming soon

Posted Sep 9, 2007 at 1:46PM by QJ Staff Listed in: Firmware, Hacks & Exploits, Homebrew Development, News Tags: Custom Firmware, Team M33
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Team M33 teaser: PSP Slim CFW 3.60 coming soon! - Image 1The last official release we heard from Team M33 was when they rolled out the fourth update of their custom firmware for PSP FW 3.52. Well, here's one of the biggest teasers in the history of homebrew: "3.60 M33 for PSP Slim Coming Soon!"

That's what they currently have flagged (literally) in the middle of their website right now. How soon is soon? We have no clue. But in the homebrew scene, "soon" could be taken to mean within a day or two from now. Or just a matter of hours!

Meanwhile, the team hasn't dropped any "teaser" changelogs either, so all we can do is wait. For those who remember, that's what happened prior to the release of CFW 3.52 Update #3.

For what it's worth, this bit of news could finally dispel all your doubts (if there were any, to begin with) about getting a PSP Slim. Knowing that a CFW for 3.60 is bound to surface "soon," then you better start saving up for a Slim!

Keep your eyes peeled, folks! You can bet we'll be on top of things once 3.60 M33 CFW finally hits the scene!

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Comments [refresh]

by Justin Mitaritonna - 2007-09-09 08:28
» First

First

by Vool - 2007-09-09 08:30
» yay

first

by malnourish - 2007-09-09 08:30
» Nice. Good work M33.

Can't wait to see this. This will definitely vindicate a purchase of a PSPSlim come October(Star Wars Pack! FTW!). Keep up the good, work! Already prepping a donation for when this comes out.

by Oh god..!! - 2007-09-09 08:31
» wow

How Quick..! :)



Great News..

by lilskaterpunk - 2007-09-09 08:31
» Sweet

Sweet

by mr. psp ps3 - 2007-09-09 08:31
» wow

i cant believe this doesnt have like 100 post already. but yeah huge news. im definitely buying a slim psp now. hurray. the psp is not dead yet

by COLINx86 - 2007-09-09 08:32
» WOW!

WOW! i'm gettin a slim now.

by lilskaterpunk - 2007-09-09 08:36
» lol

Sweet

by deadman85555 - 2007-09-09 08:37
» how?

someone please explain this. in order to have a custom firmware made you need the update file. but a 3.60 eboot isnt out inless there is one floating around

by Kim - 2007-09-09 08:37
» yeah

As soon as i get to know how it will work, i'll consider getting a slim.

by teh man - 2007-09-09 08:38
» asdasd

epic *****ing win

by skate4life - 2007-09-09 08:40
» Wow

althouhg i want a psp slim its more of a want then need



i still think the originall psp is better :)

by Jesus Man - 2007-09-09 08:41
» SWP!

Yeah, alread made my reservation for the Star Wars Pack.

Can't wait.

by verbatim - 2007-09-09 08:45
» I want a slim

I really want a slim, but I can't really afford it, I don't have to save for PS3 anymore since my brother will get it soon, but then I really could have better use of a 360 or new PC or something liek that. But, I would love to play for example Portable OPS on the big screen!

by jon - 2007-09-09 08:50
» need, not want

i need a new psp, not want one. my screen is all screwed up from one of the music visualizations, the pixels are all shaky while the screen is on, not as vibrant as it should be, and when the screen automatic goes off from sitting too long, the screen gets all whacked out with wierd colors including black, so i can't see much of anything. so then i have to take out the battery to get it back to normal. i hope this works so i can trade up to a slim for free in december with my extended warrenty at the store i bought it at. i only want to do it if hb is on the slim, but i might do it regardless and just wait 'cause i'm sure it will happen.

by Nine Masquerade - 2007-09-09 08:50
» Very Exciting

Well, This is some great news. I just hope they don't release this too early so Sony won't patch any PSP Slims. But then again, we don't even know the method that the team is taking to do this...



P.S. Is buying the StarWars PSP Slim Pack the only way you can obtain a US ceramic white PSP Slim?

by Matt S. - 2007-09-09 08:51
» uhhh....?

Creating a CW for 3.60 seems doable, but how are you going to allow the "slim" to be downgraded in the first place? Last I heard, the pandora battery trick didn't work.

by The Night Watchman - 2007-09-09 08:52
» exploit?

how are we going to use this i thought Pandora didn't work on the slim. Did they tweak Pandora to get it to work?

by mohaas05 - 2007-09-09 08:55
» ...

someone dumped the firmware from the PSP slim (idk how) and so M33 has access to them.

by fearevil19 - 2007-09-09 09:01
» me2

@jon mya, me2

do u think that if i brick on purpose with a official firmware they will trade for a slim?

by woooooooooooooooooooooooo fuok you sony - 2007-09-09 09:02
» Yes you're and I'm so happy about this news

I won't call you gay or stupid. Time to buy a pspslim!!!!!!111

by fearevil19 - 2007-09-09 09:03
» idiot

you're eyes are bigger then you're brain

by psp slim for me - 2007-09-09 09:11
» Probably

the person who discovered the exploit with dark alex said it wasn't hard either

by dax - 2007-09-09 09:14
» gg

pandora 1.50

pandora 3.60

by The Guy - 2007-09-09 09:16
» I agree...

What's the implementation here? Unless Team M33 is going to unleash some awesome homebrew enabler for 3.60 in the next couple of days, I've heard nothing on the homebrew implementation side of things. Just creating the CFW won't do anyone any good if no one's going to be able to install it.

by Sam Fisher - 2007-09-09 09:19
» ...

Pandora Tomorrow.

by unregistered - 2007-09-09 09:20
» re: Nine Masquerade

Yes, that's the only way to get an American White PSP.

by SparkyPSP - 2007-09-09 09:20
» LOL:p

Great News!!

I hope this is no scam;)

But if this firmware comes out, I'll run directly to the first store and buy a PSP Slim & Lite:p

by fearevil19 - 2007-09-09 09:22
» wait

lets just wait to see the results

by Crazy - 2007-09-09 09:28
» ...

Really?

by no .... - 2007-09-09 09:36
» no

This is fake. How did they get Homebrew on a PSP Slime? Not possible, you think sony would let a bunch of noobz hack their new PSP's firmware?



(well they arent noobz but you get the point)



Seriously? what exploit do they have to make the M33updatemaker eboot run?



3.52 can't downgrade so how would 3.60 be downgradable?

by M33 Supporter Go Team! - 2007-09-09 09:39
» Perfect

Awesome, already have mine, just need CFW. Well done pay pal for the Russians

by ICE - 2007-09-09 09:40
» WoW but hOw

how are they going to DG the slims on running the CFW but i thought the slim was made so it coundent be flashed? hmm weird i cant wait if this is true i will deff buy one

by freeplay - 2007-09-09 09:45
» Thanks

yeah I came out the closest, I'am gay!

by ahnp - 2007-09-09 09:55
» mmmmm

sounds fantastic for the 14th but is this using the pandoras battery

by lavino - 2007-09-09 09:58
» just for this I will buy a PSlime

Sony should f*cking thank me for giving them money first time after the PSphat was released

by Bored - 2007-09-09 09:58
» Unsigned code on the PSP Slim

Two words: Pandora's Battery



;)

by uhh - 2007-09-09 10:02
» wait....

Do you think this will also be relesed for the "Phat" psp??????????????????????????????

by bob - 2007-09-09 10:02
» ????

the only way i can think this will work is by running it of the mem stick. scince u cant downgrade slims yet wats the point. even running off the mem syick mprobly wont work scince it uses pandoras battery. i dont get it? Its possibly for them to make it cause of the dumped firmeware, but how can they run it on an actual slim and wat about us 1100 users weres our cfw.(or offical 3.60 at that)

by Jonttu - 2007-09-09 10:03
» Looking at a lot of posts...

I've been reading the posts and I have to ask is CFW really hurting Sony? So many people said that they will get a slim just the CFW is coming out. or maybe the interest in the machine would die out they allowed homebrew. Thats why they keep beefing up on security just make the hackers work. That's the only logical explanation. Who is really exploiting who in this situation, Sony or the hackers?

by SBU2 - 2007-09-09 10:08
» HMm

Im not sure...but i have heard that 1.5 FW cant run on a slim...so the CFW would have to run on the 3.60 Kernel...Pandora Battery runs on 1.5 Kernel so yah...Pandora Battery will have to be modded

by Nikolaos - 2007-09-09 10:12
» For you idiots

Only a few people know how to run unsigned code for the PSP slim. If this was to be public sony would patch it in their next firmware which will be released late september.



As for M33 on PSP slim, yes it is possible, the only reason you had to downgrade for PSP phat was so you can run homebrew, they have obviously found out a way to run homebrew on the 3.60 firmware. You would not need to downgrade, in fact you can't! PSP slim's first firmware is 3.60. Dark_Alex and Math discovered how to run unsigned code onto the slim not too long ago.



The PSP slim will boost in sales because of this.

by nrg - 2007-09-09 10:13
» energy

could this just be a hybrid version of 3.60 for 'psphat'? - tho i don't think there were many worthwhile features.



Either way M33 aren't stupid - if they have got an idea on how to get CFW on the slim, no one is gonna complain.

by whoelse - 2007-09-09 10:20
» hang on

You cant downgrade 3.60 yet so how can you install 3.60 CFW if your psp is a slim? Someone please explain

by D@rk_Zer0 - 2007-09-09 10:31
» Re: mohaas05

It's fact that you can take out the flash chips and insert them into a Nano-Chip reader; install the chips to a OE psp and you can dump the firmware. so that's how MathieulH dumped it. the only thing i don't get is how in the WORLD you can run CFW on a psp slim; they barely came out! man M33 is fast!

by CHRIS - 2007-09-09 10:37
» I think that...

They might use Pandora's battery for this to run

but how are we sure this will work? I heard that Sony has changed the IPL

by D@rk_Zer0 - 2007-09-09 10:41
» Re: Nikolaos

ahhhh..... i think i smell something fishy going on here... so if all the cfw dev's were visiting sony, and DA came back, all of a sudden knowing how to hack the slim, and some peeps say he's with M33, maybe they made this to boost PSP sales for sony; since they were visiting them for odd reasons. so maybe all the cfw devs and Sony are in this together to keep the psp alive... that's the only thing i can think of...

by akuma2099 - 2007-09-09 11:07
» My guess

I'm guessing that they found a way to run the Pandora battery by changing the ipl on it. Also the M33 team's CFW created an eboot when it's done so it is possible that you could create it on a regular PSP and then use the resulting eboot in place of the 1.50 one when using the Pandora battery. Therefore you don't have to downgrade the Slim just flash it with the 3.60 CFW eboot. This is just my guess and I am probably wrong in every way.

by kefka12 - 2007-09-09 11:15
» HEN

it probably uses a HEN (hello world) like how some firmwares you could keep them homebrew enabled or downgrade. maybe they found a way to take out the part of the firmware that requires code to be signed.

by agada - 2007-09-09 11:40
» agada

PSP Slime FTW

by Cheater912 - 2007-09-09 11:47
» fw

I'm not completely sure of this, but is 3.60 for the slim the same as 1.50 for the fat?

by GravyBoy - 2007-09-09 11:47
» Heres PopLoader Link

Heres a Link to the latest PopLoader. Containes all Pops Verisons. it also been tested and working.



http://www.megaupload.com/?d+AYT9G88W



have fun with your PSX Games



GravyBoy +-)

by karivika - 2007-09-09 11:47
» why slim??

Why don't just port 3.60 to the original PSP??

I'm a college student and I have don't have money for a new PSP. PSP slim is just for sony to make money. It's a little thinner, I don't care. The LCD screen is a little brighter, I don't care cuz mine is bright enough, I get blinded. It has USB charging, thats the easiest thing a hardware modder could've done by himself. And it has more ram = faster loading times. I don't see how this is an advantage cuz mine loads fast enough, atleast from the memory stick.

So I guess my PSP will slightly die...

by ... - 2007-09-09 11:54
» ...

ey ya.. i was just wondering, will you be intrested in a ligit way of making money online??

your not going to buy anything!



listen i don't want to waste your time writing up a essay..

but if you are heres a link to site which will show you to one of my favourite programs... with proof of payment ofcourse..



i jus thought ill share this with everyone here..





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www.xrl.us/ccrate



want proof of payment?? ofcourse you do..

http://img362.imageshack.us/my.php?image+check6xl2.jpg



I hope you enjoy it as much as i did... xD



[NO AGE REQUIREMENT, NO CREDIT CARD, NO DETAILED INFORMATION, AND YOU DONT HAVE TO GIVE A SINGLE PENNY!]

by GravyBoy - 2007-09-09 11:55
» sorry bad link

sorry bad link above replace + in link with equals +



http://www.megaupload.com/?d+AYT9G88W

by FreePlay - 2007-09-09 11:56
» It's simple.

The installation will require a Pandora battery (which DOES work on the slim) and will use new software that overcomes the security checks Sony added on the service mode.

by FreePlay - 2007-09-09 11:57
» LOL

Bisexual actually, but thanks

by metalspector - 2007-09-09 11:59
» leaked news!

I got leaked news that they were working on this since over 2 weeks with a PSP Slim they got their hands on (from someone not specified) and basically it will instal by accesing the flash0 files, enable the installer to run, and modify the flash0 so that it runs a copy of 3.60 firmware with a kernel similar to 1.5, run plugins and homebrew, run isos and csos (not dax, just like in the previous M33 CFW) and most (not all) of the options available from CWF 3.52-4. Evreyone keep spreading the news. 2 of the several members of M33 have leaked us this small tidbit of information. Release date for CFW 3.60 M33: Sept/10/2007

by FreePlay - 2007-09-09 11:59
» Simple

Porting an operating system to a system with a smaller resource pool is f*cking ridiculously hard to do.

by dgf - 2007-09-09 12:21
» dg

WOW,WTF,LOLZ!

THIS IS HUUUUUUUUUUUUUU UUGEEE NEWS

;-O

Cant wait for release!

by buckIslam - 2007-09-09 12:38
» uweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeel

liki the tourretts guy wud say HOOOOOOOOOOOLY SHIIIIIIIIIIIII IIIII* !!!!!!!!!!!! GREAT

by you fail now die - 2007-09-09 12:38
» you fail now die

you fail now die

by gf - 2007-09-09 12:47
» fg

YARLY :)

by yo - 2007-09-09 13:15
» i agree but...

if sony was more open and allowed CFW, hackers could also find security patches to allow games to be pirated, i don't think sony wants to stop homebrew, they just want to stop piracy

by Zomg Marc - 2007-09-09 13:38
» lolz

lol if this works when it comes out then sony just got face raped

by ich bin Rusky - 2007-09-09 13:53
» K%u0430%u043C%u0430%u044F%u0430d%u0435s!!!

Hi,





In Russia CFW fuqing powns $ony's psp SLIM!!!



ROFLCOP!!!



can't waaaaaaaaaaaaai iittt!!!!



YYEEAAARRRRRGGG GGGGHHH!!

by bubba - 2007-09-09 13:57
» ...

hmm damn! i wud like one if it does work but im fricking broke!

by jon - 2007-09-09 14:05
» brick exchange

do you purchase an extended warrenty at a store that covers pretty much anything with free replacement? i did this last year too. on my first psp, the analog stick broke, so i just waited a few months until the sony warrenty expired, then took it to gamecrazy and got a new one. not sure how they are with bricks, or messed up screens for that matter. i might just end up breaking my analog stick again. and hopefully since the slim's will replace the regular psps, i'll get one of those instead. woo hooo if this cfw turns out to be true.

by YESAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAaaaaaa - 2007-09-09 14:30
» THANK YOU M33

I LOVE YOU



NONONON





WEEE LOVE YOU





ALL YOUR WORK IS INCREDIBLEEE







HACKING SOMETHING BEFORE ITS EVEN OUTT????





UNHEARD OF!!!



TANKS SO MUCH AND U GUYS ARE THE BEST!!

by m33fan - 2007-09-09 14:52
» wow

woa man no need to do all caps.















WAIT- THERE IS A NEED!!!



M33 HACKED THE PSP SLIM ALREADY???





PERFECT! AMAZING! ALL BEFORE ITS EVEN OUT!!



THIS WILL BOOST SLIM SALES BY A LOT!!







THIS GUYS RIGHT, U GUYS HACKED SMETHING B4 IT CAME OUT!! THE DEFINITION OF DEDICATED HAKCERSS!!!









AGAIN- WE ALL THAKN YO!

by cmon - 2007-09-09 14:53
» i hope

i really hope...













that the whole m33 team goes to heaven after they die peacefully!!



you guys all deserve it!!









i hope you all read the comments here!!



thanks a lot for all of your work!

by AuDioFreaK39 - 2007-09-09 15:24
» no psp slim for me

why would I want a PSP Slim? That would mean no more IR Shell. So screw that idea.

by tom - 2007-09-09 15:38
» aight chall

my boys m33 back with anotha hit



keep doin ya thang we all greatful



noe ov us can figga out how the hell yall doin it lol



-peace-

by POOPERSCOOPER - 2007-09-09 15:59
» YES

YESYESYESYESYES YES THIS IS THE BEST NEWZ EVER!!!! THIS MADE MY DAYY!!! IM GONNA EXPLODEE!!

by jh - 2007-09-09 16:03
» wow

will u relax? who knows if this is real?

by jh - 2007-09-09 16:05
» jh

will u relax? who knows if this is real?

by justin - 2007-09-09 16:28
» lol

Ā» no



This is fake. How did they get Homebrew on a PSP Slime? Not possible, you think sony would let a bunch of noobz hack their new PSP's firmware?



(well they arent noobz but you get the point)



Seriously? what exploit do they have to make the M33updatemaker eboot run?



3.52 can't downgrade so how would 3.60 be downgradable?





YOU CANT DOWNGRADE 2.81 YOU HAVE 2UPGRADE TO DOWNGRADE same thing as this.....

by tom - 2007-09-09 16:43
» no, its not.

no play asia has the ceramic white + other colors available for pre-sale and will be released in the us on sep. 20th

by Eli - 2007-09-09 17:14
» We will see...

I think that M33 shouldn't release it too soon, or Sony will make fw 3.61 very very fast.



And for those who say that they hacked it before it came out - M33 is from Europe, and here in Europe PSP Slim was released on September 5th.=P

I'm soooo glad that I'm from Europe...:-D

by tobyo1 - 2007-09-09 17:53
» what about us?

Will it work on a regular PSP?

by Sugoi - 2007-09-09 17:58
» M33 sooo rules ^^

Thanks guys, would be so nice to enjoy my slim the proper way ;)

by Bozo - 2007-09-09 18:52
» a possiblity

guys, have u's tried using the 3.52 M33 eboot instead of the 1.5 eboot for the magic memstick??? so instead of downgrading to 1.5 using da battery nad memstick, u go directly to 3.52!

If this by any chance is possible, you can replace the 1.5 eboot to the 3.60M33 for psp slim! remember, the 1.5 kernel is also embedded into 3.52M33, so its all cool, i'll give it ago tonight!

by FreePlay - 2007-09-09 19:25
» metalspector

is full of sh*t. You can't change the files on flash0; they're encrypted and sigchecked. You can only do this with a custom IPL.

by YAMI ANUBIS X - 2007-09-09 19:48
» You guys really don't know much about hacking.

You guys didnt even read all of Mats posts on Maxconsole, he said that he and Dax have already dumped the PSP SLIM and then he said that the other CFW groups will be announcing PSP SLim 3.60 CFW later on this week.



You really didnt read that part of his post. He already said that the security updates arent really that great and Sony didnt put much effort into the security and for your information, they don't really need 1.50 to run HB and all of that stuff as in you don't really need 1.50 to upgrade to 3.60 CFW.



You just need to tweak the programs to work on a PSP SLIM. Anythings hackable, also Mat said it was really easy to hack the PSP SLIM.



Also you do not really know Sony very well, is that they ditched PSP owners for the PS3 and thus they try there best to make the PS3 non hackable, while they put little effort into upgrading the security on a PSP, same thing will happen to all of there handhelds, they care more about the console wars rather than handhelds.



Have you even seen there crappy accessories for the PSP, they didnt put much effort into them and the accessories suck badly and the PS3, they put more effort into the accessories for the PS3 than PSP.



I mean Sony making accessories for the systems, NOT 3RD PARTIES! 3rd parties actually put alot of effort into accessories for the PSP.

by analog breaker - 2007-09-09 20:12
» How to...

Hey jon to break ur analog stick, u might already kno this, just spin it around and it will ***** up the insides so it always goes in some direction. You can also try one of the 3rd party nubs and play any game since ull prob do it by accident with one of those dam things

by pedram - 2007-09-09 20:27
» Persian language for psp

Dear sir/madam

Kindly pls advise me if you have any language system for Persian language

Also pls advise me any website to find the Persian language for PSP .

Thanks for your kind attn

Best regards

Pedram khezer

pedram_k2008@ya hoo.com

by pedram - 2007-09-09 20:29
» Persian language for psp

Dear sir/madam

Kindly pls advise me if you have any language system for Persian language

Also pls advise me any website to find the Persian language for PSP .

Thanks for your kind attn

Best regards

Pedram khezer

by bla - 2007-09-09 22:25
» ...

If this is true, its would be very funny,

cuz the PSP would be hacked bevor it come out in most parts of the World (USA, EU...)

by m33 owner - 2007-09-09 23:57
» fat psp

will this cfw 3.60 work on the fat psp

by jon2452 - 2007-09-10 00:16
» how do i brick my psp

How do i brick my psp, I brought the extended warrenty, and i want to house this b*tch.



i want the slim too.

by Snake - 2007-09-10 00:39
» Hacked already?

PSP Slim is Hacked already?

by timmar - 2007-09-10 01:37
» yay

completely able to do this,

how can any of use doubt this,

what M33 says, M33 does,

no benefit from lying

obviously they found a way, and now we wait for it

by -- - 2007-09-10 02:19
» psp lite

The psp lite is already available in some countries.

by professional - 2007-09-10 02:53
» psp slim

are you guys noob? it doesnt need a downgrader. 3.60 of psp slim is just like 1.50 of psp fat... don't compare firmware of psp slim with that of psp fat.



NOOBS

by WACOMalt - 2007-09-10 04:16
» kick ass

This is freaking awesome, but I still don't want a psp slim. I may have to get one though as my regular psp's memory stick slot no longer locks the stick in place, so it just pops out all the time. So I guess whn this comes out I'll bet a slim and donate to M33

by makro - 2007-09-10 05:35
» aight

got one since last saturday

by m - 2007-09-10 05:57
» 3.60 cfw

do u think that there will b a custom firmware for the normal psp u reckin they still guna continue??



a psp 3.60 cfw

by Gvaz - 2007-09-10 06:19
» all of you are stupid

M33 wouldnt boast about having the PSP slim's hardware hacked if they didnt already have it hacked.



the funniest thing is how sony boasted about "not being able to crack this firmware" when its only been out a few days and the group already has a custom firmware to be released in a few days.



sony is friggen retarded.

by ... - 2007-09-10 06:49
» wouldnt buy psp slim

wat if this turn out wrong somehow and some retards already bought a psp slim. i would suggest you wait till they actually realese it which wont be done until sept. 14. i know because if they released it earlier sony might take all their stocks back and change it. but im not all sure.

by Nicko01 - 2007-09-10 07:23
» hah

gangster....

by ZZZ - 2007-09-10 07:31
» WTF

What the **** is PSlime???

by DarkGhost - 2007-09-10 08:27
» Out now

M33 3-60 is released!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!

by tvirus - 2007-09-10 08:44
» iĀ“ts already out !!!!!!

that“s all .. it out!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!

it“s OUTTTTTTTTTTT



mierda esta afuera ya .. revisen en su pagina !!!!

by ... - 2007-09-10 08:48
» ..

M33 CFW ON SLIM IS OUT!!!!!



http://pspx.ru/forum/showthread.php?p+513245#post513245

by Manhunt0r - 2007-09-10 09:03
» its there

http://pspx.ru/forum/showthread.php?p=513245#post513245

by Yep its out:D - 2007-09-10 09:14
» Yep its out:D

Yep its out:D

by Sugoi! - 2007-09-10 09:19
» OUT!

Hell yeah baby it's out!!

by Chw42 - 2007-09-10 13:09
» pwned

" This is fake. How did they get Homebrew on a PSP Slime? Not possible, you think sony would let a bunch of noobz hack their new PSP's firmware?



(well they arent noobz but you get the point)



Seriously? what exploit do they have to make the M33updatemaker eboot run?



3.52 can't downgrade so how would 3.60 be downgradable?"



Way to be an idiot...

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