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Poll: Is Devhook a Devil Device, or Divine Intervention? |
Listed in: Firmware, Hacks & Exploits, Site News, Opinions & Analysis Tags: DevHook, Location Free, psp firmware, PSP Web Browser
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As I'm sure the majority of our frequent readers know, yesterday saw the release of the groundbreaking application Devhook v0.40/v0.41 by Booster. The good part? It allows 1.50 users to fully emulate 2.50 Firmware, not only granting them access to features such as improved audio codecs, the PSP Web Browser, and Location Free functionality but more importantly making it possible to play UMD's that require 2.0-2.50 Firmware on a 1.50 PSP. Sounds great... at first.
The downside to this, as many of you have discovered, is that it also holds the potential to run illegally obtained backups in the form of ISO's. Those of you who have been with PSPUpdates for a long while know that we do not support or encourage UMD piracy, so our posting of this news may come as a bit of a surprise to some. However, this decision was not made lightly and it was determined by our staff that the "good" of this program outweighed the negative impact.
Some people insist that by posting this news, we are harming the PSP Homebrew Community which we have the utmost respect for. I can't say I agree. With Sony's current approach, supporting homebrew does just as much damage as piracy does - both keep people from buying new UMD games because we can't play them on 1.5/2.0 PSPs. That's why Devhook is a "breakthrough" and some of the biggest legitimate PSP news in a long while.
A very slippery slope, and not an easy decision - but I can honestly say that this new version of Devhook does more good for the legitimate PSP scene than harm. Now we can play great homebrew games like Callisto, and buy the latest UMD games as well. Its win-win for the PSP. Those who would use it for piracy do so on their own behalf, and would do so with or without this program.
So what do you think? Is Devhook inherently evil, brought forth on this Day of the Devil, because it can run UMD backups? Or is it a true victory for not only homebrew and hacking, but for the PSP in general? Make sure to take part in the poll which can be found in the sidebar on the far right, halfway down the page. If you are a homebrew developer, please let us know your take on it as well in the comments, since you are the heart and soul of the PSP community!
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sry but poll is not working.
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"Those who would use it for piracy do so on their own behalf, and would do so with or without this program."
Devhook has been used for piracy since it first came out. If anything, the emulated firmware was a bonus. I really find it annoying when people start to whine about piracy. Those who pirate games won't change their ways because some righteous joe-schmo points out that "stealing is stealing" and how piracy hurts everyone. Guess what? Pirates don't care either way. Piracy didn't kill off the XBox, PS2, Gamecube, and the GBA. The PSP is no different.
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might kill umd sales
but i guess devhook can only get better!!!!
yeh poll doesnt work
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Remember folks...ignorance kills!
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I'm glad it can run ISO's. I've been able to rip my original BOF III and put it on my MS. Now not only i'm able to enjoy this great game on my 1.5 without having to up/downgrade all the time, but with super fast loading times too ! Which makes the game much more enjoyable (Believe me, the long loadings on the UMD are horrible)
Thank you so much Booster !
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who cares about isos and anyone who does probably has the umd and uses them for the lack of load times.
get a brain sony. thanks for a great platform but no thanks for trying to make it as useless as possible. you are just abusing and ostracizing your core demographic, what a stupid business model.
no one cares about emulating your current-gen games and its not even possible to emulate the last gen on a psp. this never was going to be ps1 piracy all over again, this is just nostalgia and this is what everyone wants, an end to the big brother policery of technology and data.
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And: "Those who would use it for piracy do so on their own behalf, and would do so with or without this program."
Errr...I disagree...this tool IS giving people more of an oppurtunity to pirate games...
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and honestly, do you think someone would feel GUILTY?
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I'd also like to point out that warez kiddies will always be warez kiddies and that this application has far more legit uses than most ISO loaders.
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So indeed. it's for the best of us ^^
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The loading times is also a valid argument. Some games are just dreadful in that department... I mean... 20 seconds wait for a level to load, on a handheld!? Seriously. I always dump my slower loading UMDs on memory stick before playing... at least if I plan on playing for a while.
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You sad, sad little piece of crap.
Also, as for your post:
"They aren't upset because it gives THEM the oppurtunity to play ISOs"
That has NOTHING to do with what I said. So your intelligence is a little on the low side as well. If you can't understand what is being said then don't bother to comment on it.
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I DONT THINK SO.
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"Those who would use it for piracy do so on their own behalf, and would do so with or without this program."
I agree with this. Don't get me wrong this is a cool app, but it has only allowed like 8 games which weren't playable before to be played. The list of compatible games has alot which worked on existing loaders!
Oh and to the guy above... shut up! Where ever there is homebrew there is piracy. This will never change! And no one is 'suffering' as it is, coz Sony are crap at producing effective security updates lol!
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all thoise that say this is bad, should rethink. so you can play up to 2.5, all newer games are going to require 2.6++ so the piracy thing ain't really an issue.
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I be a pirate. What be so wrong with playing with my bounty? Yar.
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i also think that if you really want to download an iso off some site or w/e, then its your choice. no use telling other people how to live their lives; go live your own.
besides, if one person bought a psp, it is THEIR psp to do what they want with it. am i not correct? the people who make games get rich off all of it already.
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upgrade and downgrading all the time.
For example now i can watch my iron maiden umd without upgrading.
This is a really good development.
I love it !!!
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so, if you have a problem with teh "evil, demonic piracy" in this, be happy. theres plenty more to go around :)
p.s. sorry for double posting
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People can not call the program "evil" for the fact that it plays ISOs. A gun is not inherently bad, but the person who uses that gun against society is bad.
If it can push for more sales of 2.5 umds, then it is good.
Don't get your panties in a bundle for the fact that it "can" do something bad.
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i tried running the program again but it just says corrupted...
anyone have a clue?
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PRODUCT OF THE DEVIL!!
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WOW!
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Though it looks like they're getting a few more good titles out there.
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Thank You.
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The PSP is different from movies, music, and many game consoles. There aren't that many PSPs. Therefore every single sale of a PSP game affects its "sales performance" significantly, and often determines if a development team keeps their jobs and if the company producing the game will continue producing for PSP. If "PSP games don't sell well" then we'll be stuck with only the games from large companies who can afford to stick with what they see as a loss, and so we'll end up with 2403284 rehashed crappy EA games.
I believe that if you like something, you should buy it. It only helps the developers and the PSP itself.
On the other hand, Devhook is fine. The ability to load 2.5 and to develop for it and play 2.5 UMDs outweighs the ISO load feature, and the ISO loading feature can be (and often is) used legally to play legal games off of memory stick, because UMDs are slow, bulky, easily lost and broken, and eat batteries.
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Now I finally can.
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I really really really want to know!!!
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Let's flip the script. How many of you would actually complain if by some miracle, you were ABLE to do all the stuff you could on a 1.5 (that you actually wanted to do ((i.e. better SNES TYL))? Would you have a big "fit" about it? Probably not?
If someone "pirates" then let them pirate. I do not support piracy but i do agree with some people that posted on here. If games actually had more thought into it and the fun factor was there ALL the time, i dont really think we would have to deal with piracy. People don't just dl .isos just to have millions of games. They're like music. You have all these songs on your comp but how many do you ACTUALLY listen to on a regular basis.
Support what you want to support. Don't B@#$H about it.
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IS ALCOHOL GOOD FOR YOUR HEALTH, OR BAD?
IS COFFEE GOOD FOR YOUR HEALTH, OR BAD?
Quite frankly, I don't really care... so long as I can ENJOY my vodka, coffee, and the stash of 2.5 UMD's without the expense of losing my homebrews because of its requirement(s).
Kudos to PSPUpdates and BOOSTER!
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Sony can never fall becuase of what we choose to do on our psps
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divine is teh word lol, ill be going now
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I demand pirate tolerance!
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is Jake D. amish?
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This is what has kept me from buying new games. They won't run on my PSP, because I have chosen to keep a more open firmware revision. This gives me the freedom to actually PURCHASE games that I've had my eye on, and I can now look at upcoming games knowing that I will most likely be able to play them. ISO loading can be a gray area, but I do know that it helps save on battery and load times, which are a wonderful improvement, if you've bought the game. It's a senseless argument though, which will never cease.
I, for one, support this wonder piece of work, bringing the functionality of later firmware to us, and opening the door to playing UMD games that were closed to us 1.5 users.
I salute you!
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I always hesitate to buy PSP games everytime I`m in the store, since most of the games that I like requires 2.0+ fw.
But yeah, overall I believe this development is good, allowing me at last to enjoy GTA and SOCOM.
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Loading Times Suck on the PSP. By running the game from
the memory stick the game is 10x faster.I really don't care if it hurts sony sales. If They were smart they would of never put a memory card slot on the psp.I bet the guy that said "lets put a memory card slot " was fired a long time ago.
Thank you Devhook, and hope you guys stay forever!
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I loved the way qj made it look like it was just a full 2.5 emulator giving all the 2.5 features on a 1.5, but on the other sites they were advertising it as a new 2.5 game loader
It was good booster made it not just a 2.5 firmware emulator.
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i want to play my katamari game i bought a while back
Devhook cant play it yet. (black screen/game requires 2.6)
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just look at the name PIRAcy remarkebly like PIRAtes hmmmm
coincendence?
i think not
piracy isnt new... its old skool
i hate people whining about it
it wont destroy the psp as it didnt destroy the ps2 or the ps1 or every other console before it.
dont even get me started on the hypocrites out there
I doubt there is many of you who dont have an illegal image (porn for example), mp3, video, rom, iso, game on there computer
piracy = bad... stop beleiving the corprate propaganda
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"whats the point of living if you follow all the rules" - Me, 2006/06/07
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People have the right to choose to go illegal or not, if they do its their problem and if they get caught its their problem too.
But devhook has nothing to do with this choice and moreover I think that when you buy a 250$ console you have the right to exploit it as you like (in term of running software).
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and emulating ISO's and playing illegal games WILL destroy a console. as you can see due to the introduction applications like Pspvideo9 and other video converting programs, the UMD Movie Format is almost being pulled off the shelves completely.
If people are playing ISO's and games illegally, developers will be less inclined to make games for that console, therefore, less PSP games and more DS games and so on.
In my opinion.. you seriously have no idea what your talking about JustD, the reason you probably "hate people talking about it" is because your the type of person who doesn't buy games or other software, nor are you willing to do so, therefore you have a narrow view on all of the news.
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Pure genious in a download
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k bye
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do you ever compared loading times and battery life when playing umds and isos?
although i am against piracy, i bought a 2nd psp with 1.50 just to be able to play my games with the much shorter loading times when playing isos from ms (and of course so i can play homebrew)
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also, maybe one or two umds were worth buying since most that came out were bad and overpriced crap no one saw at the box office anyway.
Fact is, that not even pirates would pirate those movies. If devs make good games, they'll surely sell well to the gazillions out there who wouldn't bother to learn how to do a dance and google a hundred sites to learn how to play an iso...
the factors involved are so wildly different than umd situation, there's hardly anything worth comparing. Sony's to blame for the poor performance of umds imo.
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ISO's are not bad, you're blind.
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I want to make my own choice in dl-ing iso's or not. Currently I have none illegal "back-ups" and I've bought 5 games and can't play 2 of them on my 1.5 without some stupid trick. If there's a new trick wich makes it easier for 1.5 users to play their 2.x games, hell, by all means, post it on this website, but plz don't start babbling on about iso's this, iso's that. I really don't think that this site should educate its users on how unethical iso's are. It's just not your place. People should make up their own minds.
And btw, nobody on the internet should talk about how unethical downloading is, if that person (which I give about a 99,9% chance) downloads music, films or whatever themselves.
If this continues on this site, I will predict alot of people (including me) moving over to other sites that just don't ***** that much.
For the people that are going to say: "Then go morron" or something like that..shush...just shush...
(Forgive me for my "english", but I'm dutch ^^)
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Maybe, it could even increase umd sales...
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Piracy has NEVER killed off anything. Look at the world around you,there is no ceiling on Sony's profits while you are stuck in a rut paying them for there feeble and sub-standard offerings. the corporate animal wants as much profit out of you as possible and it'll always find the feeble minded to prey on. My point is... they earn enough profits without giving BACK enough... so stealing from them is completely moral... if not legal.
i read some idiot talking about pspvideo9 killing off UMD. You moron, have you ever thought how dumb the UMD movie concept was?? How EXPENSIVE and DUMB it was?
I rest my case. You all should buy 1.50 psps ;)
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I have played at least 30 ISO's on my PSP (most I have played maximum of 20 minutes and then discarded for ever).
The only game I liked was Burnout Legends which I went out and bought the UMD. The other was GTA. All the other games are worthless which I wouldnt buy anyway though I tried them out.
ISO's weed out the crap games from the good so you only buy the games you will play.
DevHook is God's gift to PSPites !!
Hurray!
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Ha ha ha ha
You sad F*cks!!!!
I am completely speachless. ..
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and that the psp did not support the full resolution for self encoded videos bothers me even more!
sony is a bunch of greedy m*****f*****s! so they want you to buy umd movies to have high quality video on your psp!!!
back to pspvideo9 vs. umd video
pspvideo9 is just a very good replacement for coversion software sony is offering themselves for free anyway... THINK ABOUT IT!!
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"Oh noes, if people can pirate the games, convert DVD movies onto the memory stick, less people will buy the UMDs of games and movies thus less developers will want to create games for the console."
Geesh....... why not just say its wrong for people to not even buy games at all for their psp since its causing Sony to loose profit. Yes lets make a law saying every psp owner must buy at least 6 UMD titles to make up for the loss sony makes in selling the console for less than it costs to build so that they don't loose profit. Because yes, technically by purchasing a PSP unit and less than about 6 UMD titles we are causing sony to loose money which is no different than i pirate downloading a few ISOs instead of purchasing the actual UMDs.
Either way, if people choose not to buy games at all for the PSP it hurts Sony, whether its because of they can obtain it pirated or just don't like any of the titles and just want to play music and downloaded videos.
Actualy this is pro-business neo-republican logic. The true 1 + 1 = 2 logic is that we can't hurt sony by not buying their games, whether we pirated it or choose so. Its like saying your hurting McDonalds by choosing not to eat there thus that will make McDonald make crappier food because less people want to eat it......
Oh and for the record. IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO LABEL DOWNLOADING A PIRATED A GAME AS STEALING BECUASE YOU DIDN'T TAKE AWAY ANYTHING FROM SONY, YOU CAN'T PROVE SONY LOST ANYTHING. Its only an OPINION to think that just becuase someone downloaded a pirated game, it would prevent them from going and buying that game, they still are fully able to go out a purchase the game or not reguardless of the pirated version and thats the FACT. You can't argue an unprovable opinion against a logical fact unless your one of those Christian conservatives argueing against the existance of dinosaurs becuase they think humans were created first.
My conclusion? STOP WORRYING ABOUT SONY's PROFITS AND HOW MANY DEVELOPERS CHOOSE TO SUPPORT THEIR CONSOLES. IF THEY CHOOSE NOT TO AND SONY FAILS, ITS THEIR FAULT AND ONLY THEIR FAULT FOR WHAT EVER REASONS. All you little big business and corperation fanboys stop trying to be wannabe CEO's for sony, mind your own business, and purchase 100s of UMDs, make corperate donations and stock investments if you really beleave in supporting how much profit they are making instead of whining and b!tching about people not buying their crap.
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As far as the piracy goes, who hasnt got a;
*Few songs they havent paid for on there PSP or PC
*Few ROMs of games they never owned
*Copied DVD or Video (copied them selves or brought from someone)
*Borrowed a software CD
*ect
Just because you are not surposed to do something doesnt mean that you cant. Like many things in life YOU are the only person who can make YOU do anything and if YOU choose to watch, play or listen to something copied its YOUR choice to do it.
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We don't need anyone to give us lessons, that usually get the contrary effect.
Are all USA people as puritanist like the mods of PSPU? I hope no, for your mental health.
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You just can't save yet. =/
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Piracy in whatever form boils down to the responsibility of the individual....Do not buy or download it & they have no market....
The homebrew scene on the PSP is fantastic & the constant updates by Sony only serves to stifle that and not encourage it..Sony want to make a profit & that is fine too I happily buy the games & videos.
This homebrew development is excellent as it keeps the updates from Sony available & allows people to ENJOY (yes I did say enjoy) the homebrew scene & the sense of community it engenders.
Well done to the Devhook team & to Pspupdates for a courageous, if controversial decision.....
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However for me this is a great thing… I have a V1.5 PSP with a 2GB Memory stick… when I bought my psp I got 2 psp games… GTA: LCS and Ridge Racer.
Being on firmware V1.5 is something I don’t really want to give up, it’s the most compatible and fastest firmware for homebrew... And I certainly cannot see myself ever upgrading beyond V2.0 firmware.
I love homebrew and I love my psp… this application gives a little more freedom in what I can run. I bought GTA:LCS that has been sitting in a draw for the better part of a year. I use my memory stick for music and videos and don’t want to give up half of it to play GTA nor do I want to upgrade to V2.0 firmware.
This application gives me more confidence in buying games for my PSP…. Especially when those cheaper platinum titles go on sale
Although I’m sure there will always be somebody to exploit something like this to play games illegally, I’m sure there will be many more people that will do the right thing…
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So thanks god for this application.!!!!
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All I can say is take a look at the firmware update that blocked the Eloader of which the authers were vocally anti-piracy.
I think this new Devhook loader is great, I have approximately 15 UMD's of which many will not run without either 2.5 or 2.6 firmware updates. For this reason I had stopped purchasing anymore after a while.
Although Isos can save on battery and loading times, I prefer to use my actual UMD's because I am not wasting memory stick space or messing around with settings. I just set Devhook to autorun whatever UMD is in the drive and that's it.
One can never have good without evil, there will always be opposing sides, with homebrew comes exploits, with firmware emulation comes the possibility of running higher firmware UMD's on lower firmware and with this comes the possibility of running ISO's of those UMD's.
Even if Devhook couldn't run ISO's we all know someone would have modified it or found some kind of workaround.
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Hackers are smart. They will figure out how to pirate one way or another so in this instance we must take the bad with the good. But for those of us who have stuck with 1.5 firmware for homebrew reasons this will allow us to buy a few more UMDs we can run.
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As you know, in 2.x it is impossible to fool the firmware into loading a user .prx in kernel mode. I think that devhook makes possible experimenting with changes in 2.x modules to bypass this protection. MPH FL was not really mimicking the OS as closely as DH does. With DH, people can fiddle with the firmware itself and stand good chances of coming up with a 2.x firmware mod that will allow kernel-mode homebrew in 2.x (previously unthinkable of). What about that? Well, it could be paired to the UP chip and make possible an off-the-chip version of 2.x which would allow custom (homebrew) kernel-mode. Who wouldn't want this?
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I get a blueScreen with some non english charecters.
If i keep the UMD and then turn it on.. then it works fine.. Does anybody have this issue.
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This realease also means that I can play Gottlieb Pinball and Pursuit Force which I bought when my PSP was firmware 2.00, which don't run now.
I still have isos but usually play the UMD's that I own as also I have found that some images crash at random intervals, (annoying), I fully support this release and thank the developers for their time and knowledge in producing and releasing this package. Importantly I find that testing a game this way enforces the acceptance of supporting and buying good software.
I understand the implications of the arguement that this release could potentially enforce mass piracy but as adults we have a choice, use the app and support the industry by buying good software OR use the app and kill the PSP scene by our lack of support......
The choice is ours.
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Come on lets hear it, for once i would love to get a polite reply, something simple like sorry that wouldnt work because, No of course not i have to get another one of you angry posters, so my guess is you're not "getting any" and probably never have! SNAP!
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people who are saying this ruins it for them. ruins what? Sony supporting homebrew? haven´t seen that happen, isos or not. Kills a console? haven´t you been paying attention to the DS? kills the gaming industry? well guess you haven´t heard that the gaming industry has passed the movie industry. Piracy killing a console. I say
WAKE UP!!!!
Get off your high horse, stop *****ing and go buy a psp game(or games)that you have wanted to play, load it up with this wonderful loader and have fun.
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WTF?
WHO TEH FCK RITES OR EVEN TALKS LIEK THAT???
ur just a loner with no life or gf.
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P.S @ Nigel: the update has been disabled by coding b/c not all things may be redirected correctly (kind of risky to test something like that right now ;)
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-2.50 umds
-2.50 web browser
-2.50 media player
-2.50 photo viewer
-...and everything else 2.50 on 1.50...
...then how long is is until it supports 2.60/2.70> ?
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Can't really understand the difference..
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this is what i hate. when people make money off of stuff like this. i mean i could be doing this too if i wanted to. just read it and you can see that he is talking about DevHook
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But still how stupid do u get:
By bidding and purchasing this product you are agreeing that you already personally own all of the games and videos listed
(WINK,WINK:). Who would own 163 psp games? I know what he means but its still a dumb comment to make espcially in the legal info. And the ***** is selling homebrew (snes etc).
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