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Metal Gear Solid 4 - in Real-Time!

Posted Dec 15, 2005 at 7:44AM EST by QJ Staff

Listed in: Titles, Featured Articles, Previews, News Tags: ps3 news, ps3 updates
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I could be incredibly mistaken, and if I am you fine folks will surely let me know, but I believe that we've come across some new unseen footage (by most of you anyways) of MGS4 from this year's Tokyo Game Show. This 4 minute video shows real-time footage from this upcoming game being run from a devkit, and on top of that the folks at Language Espionage Team have translated the presentation into English. So if it's not news to you it's news to me, and I have to say I'm blown away. Not to aggravate you X360 fans, but I found this footage incredible - I didn't think this level of real-time graphics would be possible for several years to come and it is definitely something for Microsoft to worry about, regardless of the PS3's eventual price tag.


So take a look and tell us what you think, the video is in WMV format. If I'm just out of the loop and this is old news (I couldn't find it on this site, anyways) than I apologize for wasting your time. ;)


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# Guest -1-11-29 20:00

I have seen this before but it was in an Episode of Retro Core.

Im not sure if it had subs but it was very nice. I love the detail on the LCD screen that is just amazing.



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# Guest -1-11-29 20:00

You'll never escape me Jake!



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# Guest -1-11-29 20:00

I just might, there's some posts of mine on an "Updates" site that you haven't commented on yet... you probably don't even know that particular news page exists. :)



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# Guest -1-11-29 20:00

That footage was totally mindblowing. I thought Unreal Engine 3 was great, and this one goes beyond that. I definately haven't seen anything as detailed as this game on 360. But now the fanboys will come and say that it isn't that great, that their console can do 10 times better or even that it is CG, lol.

I can smell the jealousy...



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# Guest -1-11-29 20:00

I absolutely agree anonymous.
now, with this as the proof, I shall eagerly awain Motorstorm AND Killzone 2 with pride and joy XDXD



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# Guest -1-11-29 20:00

this does look great just dont be getting your heads inflated by it. the creator did say this is possible on the 360, but damn this looks sweet. if the gameplay is as good as athe graphics i will buy it. didnt much care for the 3rd one. one thing i hope they improve is the inviorments, although the characters look amazing the inviorments look bland. maybe thts how they made up for the difference in power in the dev kits.



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# Guest -1-11-29 20:00

Hideo never said something like that. In video review on 1up.com, reviewer only manchioned that Hideo told that. Do any of you sow that interview? No. And in one of his last interviews he said that somethin similar to that. But it was just that if he would do MGS4 for X360 he should do it from scraches.



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# Guest -1-11-29 20:00

This is just mindblowing, i was "aww" struck. They stoped it in real time, showed you everything, so theres no doupt thats CG, And i have yet seen anything on the 360, that looks as good as that. Im not saying it cant be done... Im saying there isnt on the 360 that can compare to this game that is in development at the moment.



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# Guest -1-11-29 20:00

well i have to change my pants now after watching that... im not a fanboy or anything, but i really havent seen the 360 come to the table with graphics like that, i mean the detail is just amazing. I guess i made a smart choice of not buying the 360, ill just save up some more for the PS3



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# Guest -1-11-29 20:00

Why do you guys missinform people *sigh*

Hideo Kojima (the creator) says Metal Gear Solid 4 demo could run on Xbox 360

one of many sources is http://www.games-digest.com/2005/11/kojima_says_met.html

Schooled again by DiemetriX



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# Guest -1-11-29 20:00

But then, it won't be run on an Xbox 360, will it!

Not any time soon anyway.

Anyway, the proof of the pudding is in the eating.
A game needs substance to subsist. If all want is eyecandy, i go to an Imax Theatre.



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# Guest -1-11-29 20:00

One thing is that MGS4 could be run on 360. A very different thing is that MGS4 could be run with the same performance as in PS3. That's the question.

Also, Kojima said that he would have to change some things, he never said that they could port it as it is.

Anyway, you will never see MGS4 on 360, so who cares!!!



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# Guest -1-11-29 20:00

Kojima says there's no hardware difference between PS3, PC and Xbox 360. And God knows that today's PCs run Quake 4 much, much better than Xbox 360 does. Kojima is just being polite, so I'm afraid I can't take him too seriously.

Don't worry though, X360 fans. The chances you'll ever see or be able to appreciate something as great as MGS4 on your not-really-next-gen console are extremely close to zero.



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# Guest -1-11-29 20:00

the 360 is better then a gaming rig. Find me a rig that has 3 proccers that are all hyper threading



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# Guest -1-11-29 20:00

^^^
How about PS3 with 9?



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# Guest -1-11-29 20:00

Still waiting for actual gameplay footage.



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# Guest -1-11-29 20:00

where's vecha's posts?

Nope, not here....



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# Guest -1-11-29 20:00

Lmao, wow. The 360 DOES NOT have three processors. It has one TRIPLE-CORE processor. Amazing footage, on par with Unreal Engine 3. I'm not so much impressed with the Snake model as Otacon. Otacon looks incredible.



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# Guest -1-11-29 20:00

This IS WHAT WE CALL NEXT GEN and QUITE possible a NEXT GEN ABOVE A NEXT GEN !!!!!!!! Save your 400.00 from some NOOB SYSTEM get yourself a system youve always wanted to play from DAY one!!!!! THis is the future, Sony is our future.



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# Guest -1-11-29 20:00

Badonkadonk, you are a true ignorant (what I'd exactly expect from a Xbox fanboy). Games that are currently available on both X360 and PC perform better on any high-end PC. Quake 4 or Need For Speed Most Wanted are clear examples of this.

"Hyperthreading" is an exclusive feature of Intel processors. You should have said "multithreading" instead, but once again, you don't know a thing about computers. Like the guy above me said, X360 has only 1 processor with three cores, so please stop the nonsense.



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# Guest -1-11-29 20:00

yup 360= garbage
sory fanboyz but you can all eat our ps3 loving ****



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# Guest -1-11-29 20:00

i think the art style in gears of war is better and the character models are too. this demo is impressive to the eye but it fools you by bringing your atention away from the ****ty inviornments. xbox360=ps3



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# Guest -1-11-29 20:00

by the time ps3 comes out pc's will be better



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# Guest -1-11-29 20:00

Quote: "i think the art style in gears of war is better and the character models are too. this demo is impressive to the eye but it fools you by bringing your atention away from the ****ty inviornments. xbox360=ps3"

You're crazy, the environments AND characters look amazing. These are the most amazing graphics I've ever seen. I already thought 360 graphics were nothing special, but this just puts the Xbox 360 to shame. It's ok Xbox fanboys, its understandable you would cry after realizing how much money you wasted on that piece of **** Xbox 360.



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# Guest -1-11-29 20:00

Dear anonymous 3:32 AM and 1:09 pm,

It is spelled environment. NOT "inviorment". Please learn how to spell before I put a bullet in my head. Thanks.



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# Guest -1-11-29 20:00

have you seen the newer videos of gears of war? the invironments blow this game away. in fact gears of war looks better than even the fake videos like killzone. graw looks better than this too. snake looks absolutely amazing but the rest looks meh. i am actualy a sony fanboy i just dont lie to myself like you guys do. the best looking game they have showed for the ps3 wich does blow 360 away is MotorStorm



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# Guest -1-11-29 20:00

Seen all the gears of war crap it’s just using a pc engine and read what the creator of doa4 said it no use having good graphics if they are too dark. the gears of war is just hiding half of what u can see on the screen that’s why the graphics look ok as it using half the power to crate a image. Man I can guarantee u that there will be no daylight in gears of war as the xbox 360 is not powerful enough create that good graphics with all the details intact. Plus this video dose not do mgs4 justice as its not direct feed or HD so if u think this looks good than think how good its gonna look when it’s in direct feed and in HD.



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# Guest -1-11-29 20:00

there is no such thing as a "pc engine" it is using the unreal 3 engine wich is the same as ut 2007 for ps3. its not hiding anything its dark because its a survival horror shooter. have you seen the videos where they bosted the lighting so you could see all the detail? it looks awesome. even if ps3 is way more powerful than 360 wich it isnt this demo is on a dev kit that is far weaker than the 360 so the 360 could easily do this demo in full detail.



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# Guest -1-11-29 20:00

u got the **** dev kit in ur house stupid **** head.



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# Guest -1-11-29 20:00

I don't care about Gears Of War environments at 10fps when I'll play MGS4 at 60fps.



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# Guest -1-11-29 20:00

gears of war isnt 10fps. it was playable at 3 different shows and looked better than this crap running on dev kits. besides your just mad cause i am 100% right.



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# Guest -1-11-29 20:00

"gears of war isnt 10fps. it was playable at 3 different shows and looked better than this crap running on dev kits. besides your just mad cause i am 100% right."




yeh man u must have got a dev kit in ur house aswell. stupid dumb xbox fanboy.



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# Guest -1-11-29 20:00

to many not registered fanboys here im leavin



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# Guest -1-11-29 20:00

Gears Of War framerate is embarrasing, even when there is no action it drops below 20fps, and when there's some shooting it drops below 15fps or even 10fps. Check gameplay videos at IGN and you'll see I'm right. I don't want to play games that look like a ****ing slideshow. Sorry fanboys, this is the truth. I know you feel screwed and disappointed, but PS3 is not guilty for being the most powerful console and the real next generation HD system. You will cry like babies when you'll see PS3 games in the next few weeks.



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# Guest -1-11-29 20:00

well gear of war can be played on ps3, with smoother faster game play, no slow motions and lagy



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# Guest -1-11-29 20:00

anon 7:20 you have just pwnt this discussion!!!!!


Congratulations you sir win 5 internets!



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# Guest -1-11-29 20:00

bottom line is ps3=xbox360, its a fact



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# Guest -1-11-29 20:00

Sure, sure.

PS3 beta hardware running Unreal Tournament 2007 (UE 3.0) - 49fps

Xbox 360 final hardware running Gears Of War (UE 3.0) - ~15fps

So PS3 will most likely perform 3 times better than 360 on Unreal Engine 3.0, therefore PS3=X360. D'OH!!!!!!!!!!!!!



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# Guest -1-11-29 20:00

Every Effect shown there i already have seen on my Radeon 9700!
Shame on them LOL.
FEAR looks better than that.
WOOOOW NEW FEATURE! Called "Depht of field" - btw: it really is a new feature for all the PS2 owners ;)
My Gamecube and my Xbox are useing this effect since years :P
And look at this fantastic self shadowing! WOOOOOW - did those guys ever have seen doom3? It is a standard feature in PC games since doom3 came out!
EVERYTHING in this video is able to be shown on a normal midrange-computer in realtime!
But hey: it really is a nice progress for all the PS2 owners out there.



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# Guest -1-11-29 20:00

"In an interview with 1up and Hideo Kojima (creator of the Metal Gear series), Kojima notes that there are are no differences among the PS3, Xbox 360 and PC, but the Revolution is totally different"

This comes from Hideo Kojima himself: who has actually had experienced with both systems. So stop the stupid posts about which system is more powerful because that does not matter.



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# Guest -1-11-29 20:00

Suuuuuure, your Radeon 9700 can run 60.000 vertex primitives with applied physics for the hair of every single character as well as performing at 60fps in 720p with 128bit HDR lighting and every other effect on. I'm also suuuure that Doom 3 has character animations, physics, poly count, detail and granularity 1000 times superior to those seen in MGS4...

All that with your beloved Radeon 9700 which still uses Shader Model 2.0, suuure, suuuuuuuuuure... not even in your best dreams, n00b! Poor fanboys, any excuse is good for them to bash the best system, but some fanboys really need to stop taking drugs too.

P.S. Kojima hasn't had a 360 development kit in his hands, he was just being polite by saying all systems are powerful, which is not very "accurate".



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# Guest -1-11-29 20:00

"P.S. Kojima hasn't had a 360 development kit in his hands, he was just being polite by saying all systems are powerful, which is not very "accurate".

That would actually make sense if you were the man himself. Could you stop being blinded by brand loyalty and calling people fanboys because you just sound like one yourself.



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# Guest -1-11-29 20:00

is this actually footage of someone playing tha game? or is it just the extended trailer where he falls to tha ground and smashes that thing into his neck?



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# Guest -1-11-29 20:00

^^

no it is true, Kojima hasn't touched an XBOX 360 Dev kit yet

And you can tell there was a little lost with the english "translation" because there are different codes of ethics and whatnot in Japan, It is not polite to attack someone or something directly.



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# Guest -1-11-29 20:00

Isn't Sony a Japanese company? dont they attack their competitors?



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# Guest -1-11-29 20:00

Quote:

Suuuuuure, your Radeon 9700 can run 60.000 vertex primitives with applied physics for the hair of every single character as well as performing at 60fps in 720p with 128bit HDR lighting and every other effect on. I'm also suuuure that Doom 3 has character animations, physics, poly count, detail and granularity 1000 times superior to those seen in MGS4...

All that with your beloved Radeon 9700 which still uses Shader Model 2.0, suuure, suuuuuuuuuure... not even in your best dreams, n00b! Poor fanboys, any excuse is good for them to bash the best system, but some fanboys really need to stop taking drugs too.

P.S. Kojima hasn't had a 360 development kit in his hands, he was just being polite by saying all systems are powerful, which is not very "accurate".



When programmers are lousy they have to use the easyer SM3.0
When the Programmers are good, they can use every effect aswell on SM2.0 3D cards.
Have you ever seen FEAR running on a radeon9700?
I have every effect ingame just like on a 7800gtx
ok, i have only 20fps, but i have every effect!
even softshadows and other "SM3.0-stuff"!
I can Play HL2 in "High Dynamic Range Rendering" too!

I only wanted you to know that this demo could be realized on ANY midrange Computer with at least a Radeon X800.

btw: have you noticed that this Demo is only runnign at 30fps? (look at the Framecounter!)
Physics?
I dont have seen any physics!
When this demo has a Framecounter, it is FULLMOTION REALTIME VIDEO WITHOUT PHYSICS CALCULATION! EVERY MOTION (!) IS DONE PRERENDERED(pol ygons are real, but the motions are prerecorded!) to prove other i wanna see a hit in the face to see his hair shaking around!

BTW: I am in no way a so called "fanboy" i have an xbox and a Gamecube because they have both a better technology then the PS2. I dont buy a Xbox360! and i will not buy a PS3! this is nonsense!

poor "fanboy"... defending $ony to death because he knows nothing about 3d rendering.



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# Guest -1-11-29 20:00

Holy f**kin' S**t. That is the shiz. Take that Microsoft. Whatcha gonna do? Whatcha gonna do when Sony comes for you!



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# Guest -1-11-29 20:00

What the hell are you talking about anon?

The MGS4 graphics?...i hope you have seen some of the 360 games that are set to come out right when ps3 is rumored to come out?

you haven't?

is Kenny's ass too dark to see from the outside?



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# Guest -1-11-29 20:00

Seriously This Thread is all full of Jackasses if anyone has read Anything about the 360 all launch Games are Single Threaded meaning there are still 2 threads unused...full potential has not been used on the 360 and second PS2 has Software support thats why it has held the market for so long above microsoft.why does Sony need support for 7 controllers on one system? who the hell is gonna plit a tv 7 ways I wont f that! play with them online have the screen to yourself. Dont get me wrong having 7 cores is great but the Cell Architecture is far more complicated to code on then the 360 3 core Intel dont believe me? search google its out there... I hate the way you all call people fanboys its so stupid and childish makes me think people dont know how to grow up and face the facts you like sony good go pay for sony branded items dont like microsoft thats your choice dont buy their ****, if you dont own an xbox dont **** on it if you havent played a launch game. I wont **** on PS3 just yet till I can see an actual In Game Demo not a prerendered video till I can see the true potential of the ps3 then everyone can make there own choice on which one is better we are all entitled to our opinions but its just that its your own not everyone elses dont go ****ing everyone one because your systems pre-rendered video looks 'SO' much better....quit that fanboyisms already its stupid



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# Guest -1-11-29 20:00

ps3 and xbox360 are both very similar in power. They have the same generation graphics card, the same amount of memory and roughly the same processing power (ps3 has more theoretical, but its much harder to use).

Ps3 has bluray (25+GB capacity) but only 512 memory so whats the point? It takes 2-3 years to make a game that uses 8GB, will it take 6-9 for a game that uses 25GB? They'll probably use it for prerendered cutscenes/features or something. Xbox360 will also come out with a HD-DVD periphal if you want HD movies.

Don't be a fanboy and don't troll. You'll look immature and stupid. Read reviews, try out games and buy the system with the games that you like. Simple. Xbox360 has good games PGR3, PDZ and to come Halo3. I'll get the system when Halo3 comes out. PS3 has MGS4 and possibly GranTurismo. Revolution has its controller.

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This is just mindblowing, i was "aww" struck. They stoped it in real time, showed you everything, so theres no doupt thats CG

By RitterRav, at 5:24 AM

I thought this was prerendered as well, I'd like to see this "stopped in realtime". Please post a link thx.



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# about 360 being able to run thisGuest 2006-02-22 12:02
Are you kidding about Kojima being polite to Microsoft? Did you completely miss the end of the TGS trailer where he Otacon described the Cell processor and said it was the key to winning the console war?

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# fpsGuest 2006-05-07 23:13
hmmmmm i research a lot and found that

1.killzone was rendered on ps3 beta kit and will be found ingame it was running at 15 fps.it was actually speed up to hide the lag .i am a hardcore ps3 fan and can die it for it but i have to say that .don,t believe go search out video search on google "ps3".also download google video player and in the movie just click on "next frame" until you get the next second you will find it runs at only 11-15 fps





2.motorstorm was all perfect perfect fps ,perfect graphics

and only hope that it is ingame



3.mgs4 was amazing it was at 30 and was from ps3 devkit from the realtime chinese trailer with eng subs .they showed from various angles.

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