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Why Microsoft won't give XBox360 power numbers

Posted Nov 23, 2005 at 8:08AM EST by QJ Staff

Listed in: Rumors, News Tags: playstation rumors, ps3 news, ps3 updates
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Xbox360_logo1111111When IBM gave out the info on the Xbox 360 CPU, there are two things it would not reveal, its name and the power consumption.

Well, the name part is pretty well known, it is either Xenos or Waternoose, but you can understand why in this litigation crazy day and age they wouldn't want that out. The power use is a little stranger, but like the three cores, has a reasonable explanation.

The reason is console pricing, about the last thing you would ever think of when quoting CPU power consumption. The console business is a harsh one full of backstabbing, loss leaders and competitive pricing. Long before a console is built, the first few shrinks, component costs and price drops are already planned out. The same is true for the competition. If Microsoft is going to cut the price by , you can bet Sony will match it, and you can also bet if it is able to dig a heel into Sony with said cut, it will time it to do so. If Sony sees a gap, it will likewise go for the throat.

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# Guest -1-11-29 20:00

Inquirer LOL



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# Guest -1-11-29 20:00

Xbox360 sucks

.Period.



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# Guest -1-11-29 20:00

What does this have to do with the Sony PlayStation 3? That is what PS3 Updates is about, is it not?



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# Guest -1-11-29 20:00

Numbers are great and all, but is does not good if people can't buy the damn thing.

http://iwantanxbox360.blogspot.com/



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# Guest -1-11-29 20:00

At least the Xbox360 is out :P



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# Guest -1-11-29 20:00

Though doesn't that seem strange to you, The Xbox shows up late, Loses in sales to the PS2, Scraps it Early and releases the XBOX 360 (Specifically to beat PS3 to the market, theres no doubt about that)

But sacrifices its earlier advantage, Hardware. (And a big sacrifice too)

Now the one advantage the 360 Will have over the PS3 is Xbox Live. But with its microtransactio ns, and per month charge, who knows..

I'm a big fan of free, Hidden costs bug me. Prob the only reason I don't play MMORPG's...



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# Guest -1-11-29 20:00

they didnt sacrafice hardware, the machine is a beast and if you knew anything about this kind of hardware you would know that the 360 is very close to the ps3 in real world perfomance. i have a 360 and it is truly great, i have already pre ordered my ps3 and hope that it is great too but just because your a sony fanboy or just hate microsoft is no reason to say a system sucks. it may have not had the best 3rd party support but the original xbox was a good system also. ps2 had zero games out in japan on its release dat, just fantavision but people bought it anywase. the 360 has 18 games on day one and most of them are good. if you dont like the games that are out for it that doesnt mean it sucks, ps2 was good even though it had zero games. if you think the xbox and the 360 suck your just ignorant. if you dont like it because you dont like the games or the controller then dont buy it. something doesnt suck because you dont like it, something sucks because it isnt good.



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# Guest -1-11-29 20:00

RIGHT ON!!!!!!!



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# Guest -1-11-29 20:00

Being that the XBOX is out, and the PS3 isn't
I don't see how you could back up your claims.

The truth is, When they run the performance Tests the PS3 gets almost twice the Terraflops of the 360

A much bigger gap than the PS2 to Xbox

So how is it "very close"?



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# Guest -1-11-29 20:00

notice i said "real world performance", it is very true that ps3 can do twice the teraflops that the 360 can do but you have to understand that those numbers are just that, numbers. they mean very little when it comes to games. in fact 360 is more efficiant for gaming in the cpu area. the type of math used in video games is best done by general perpose cores, wich is what 360's are. six out of the seven cores in the ps3 are spu's wich are very inaficiant for gaming and the seventh is a general perpose core. also there are other factors like the gpu, the memory bandwidth, and the way these different things work together. in fact there have been claims that the 360 is actualy more capable than the ps3. you people that no nothing about hardware see 1 teraflop for the 360 and 2 for the ps3 and run around saying ps3 has twice the power of the 360 wich is exactly what sony wants. that is why they only release the numbers that favor them. the truth is they are so close that you wont realy see a difference in quality untill 2-3 years into the systems lifecycle, and with the 360 having a year on the ps3 in america 360 games will be coming closer to their potential and make the difference in quality even less.



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# Guest -1-11-29 20:00

You sir, are a retard.

"numbers are just that, numbers. they mean very little when it comes to games"

Yeah, ok. Numbers are everything you tard. They determine how powerful the system is, what it can do, the size of the console, the gaming worlds... Etc... Yeah. It's everything. So, go screw a donkey.

Also.

"six out of the seven cores in the ps3 are spu's wich are very inaficiant for gaming and the seventh is a general perpose core"

How in the hell could you figure? The console comes out next fall, about a year from now.(At least in America)

"there have been claims that the 360 is actualy more capable than the ps3"



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# Guest -1-11-29 20:00

continued...


From who? The ps3 is very well known to be very more capable than the 360 in various ways. So buddy, before you say all that ****, get your **** straight.

And also. Learn some more english.

Good bye.



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# Guest -1-11-29 20:00

i did not say numbers in general. i said those numbers(teraflo ps) are just numbers. and they realy dont mean squat by themselves. i did not just start insulting everyone who disagrees with me, you did. and in my opinion that makes you "the retard". also noone has proven ps3 more capable than the 360 and i did not claim that the 36o is more capable, i said that it has been claimed. i.e. by other people. ps3 will be more powerful and in floating point performance it will be twice as powerful. there are many things that it will do better but when it comes to gaming there will not be a huge differance. i just tell it like it is nad you "sir" are a fanboy.



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# Guest -1-11-29 20:00

Holy Crap its an anonymous war!

And "Fanboy" doesn't necessarily mean wrong, Just biased.

And of course the "numbers" don't mean anything, But do we have PS3 games to compare side by side with XBOX 360 ones? Of course not
So they help give an idea of how powerfull the consoles are, By giving us a performance number to be a baseline.

So untill whenever PS3 comes out, we can only go by what facts are released, and if you want by the gameplay videos.

Though for pure rendering power, you do have to admit the PS3 wins there, Killzone, MGS4, Armored Core all look fantastic. (And I think you can even compare the Armored Core videos, since its on both systems)



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# Guest -1-11-29 20:00

112FPS!! PS3 ROOLZ!



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# Guest -1-11-29 20:00

The PS3 can handle twice the floating point opperations as 360, but what that will mean in real world situations is unkown. The PS3 will almost certainly be superior to the X360 in every way (refering to technical capabilities, not software and infrastructure, such as XBox Live, as thats a whole nother issue) however, the systems have completely different designs, so direct comparisons arnt that useful, until we see some actual gameplay footage (yeahy for CES!)



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# Guest -1-11-29 20:00

kilzone demo was fake, maybe possible on ps3 but still fake. also you said yourself ps3 isnt out yet so a few good looking "videos" do not prove anything. 360 only has 18 games so far and they were already being developed befor final specs so they are not the best examples of what the 360 is capable of. one other thing, gears of war and project gotham racing 3 both l;ook better than any sony demo so far, so does project offset and ghost recon 3. so if you want to base it on videos, 360 wins so far.



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# Guest -1-11-29 20:00

In my opinion, the 360 isn't too great. Bill Gates has put too much excitement into his console saying it is the greatest thing that has hit the planet. Well, it isn't that great afterall. Have you seen the reviews for most of the launch games on the 360? Most are about mediocre or say 5-6/10. That is because the 360 stayed with the DVD, and the developers are looking into enhanching the graphics and design, no care to the gameplay because there is no space to put it. Stupid Microsoft. Go PS3. You have the technological advantage, and the Blu-ray for game space, developers up the ass, so in the end, rather from the start, or even from before, people have seen the PS3 a big sucess, 360 being a huge dissapointment. As for the Revolution, it will make a huge role in gameplay, neverminding the graphical part of videogames,and is a whole different topic. The revolution isn't trying to compete in next-gen console wars graphically, resulting in lower price, and more sales. But, by the end of 2007, it is said that the PS3 will lead the market, as usual.



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# Guest -1-11-29 20:00

oh yeah games suck because not enough space on dvd. now i have heard it all. are you retarded? alot of the best pc games only take up one dvd 9 disk and they have textures that an hdtv can not even display. i will say this about sony though, they have done an excelent job of brainwashing you and selling crap products at high prices to the public. also 5 of the launch titles for the 360 are AAA titles, 9 or above out of 10. 5 out of 18 titles is better than any lauch so far.



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# Guest -1-11-29 20:00

How in the hell can you even begin to claim that the 360 even MIGHT bet the PS3 in terms or gaming performance? Have you been smoking crack? The PS3 will be launched almost a full year after the 360 and be (arguably) MUCH more expensive. This all equates to hugely more powerful system and better games. Also with the HD-DVD storage Vs that of Blu-ray the share volume of data outnumbers the 360 2:1. And before you start talking about which CPUs and GPUs will be much more efficient take in to consideration that both Microsoft and Sony are huge companies who invest billions into their gaming consoles. What does this mean? It means they know what will be more efficient, they know how to get the maximum output for hardware and most important, they know a hell of a lot more about it than you do.



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# Guest -1-11-29 20:00

I hate these nerd wars
Specs means ****,unless your a nerd.ITs all about the games.And sony makes like all ****y games that cann't hold my attention for more then 20 mins.HAs the worst 1st party games i ever seen sense...hmmm ps2 and ps1.IF sony didnt have a strong ass 3rd party support,they wouldnt be where they are today.Oh and iam not going to pay ****ing 600 dollors for a new console so i can MGS4.Its gonnna have to wait.



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